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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Manu_R32 on 14 February 2008, 20:21
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Not sure how many people have seen this but it seems quite interesting....
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=17606
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ED30 rules :laugh: :tongue:
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Not commenting till i get my R....
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He'll choose the ED30 with his own money or the R32 if it is a company car :wink:
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Prolly go for R32, as he waxed about it much more than about E30.
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ed30 all day long, i think somebody needs to tell him that vw book stats are not quite acurate and infact ed30 can come with 240bhp and as hurdys car did 0-60 in less than 6 secs standard, then i believe he would change his mind :tongue:
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Hmm I think if he got the R32 then took it for a swift visit to APs :evil: :evil:
or.........
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/374110.htm
Think that says it all really :cool:
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Jesus!! i want want want, what a machine. Awesome spec, NOT SURE ABOUT THE REAR BADGES THOUGH but i,m sure that could be sorted!!!
Seems to be a lot of people who always slag off the 32 and say they would always pick the gti over the 32.Why is that??
Till you try one in the real world (and i,ve had a MKV GTI and TWO MKV R32S) dont knock them,
Give me a 32 anyday,
THE NOISE
THE STYLE
THE EXCLUSIVITY
THE TRACTION
Fair enough it mat not be as nimble as a GTI but its just as easy to use day to day.
JEALOUSY PERHAPS GTI DRIVERS!!!! LOL :grin:
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£37,000! wtf?!
Not being funny, but why would anyone spend nearly £40k on a golf?
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£37,000! wtf?!
Not being funny, but why would anyone spend nearly £40k on a golf?
Because it will pi$$ on anything worth twice as much! :grin:
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But it's still a golf....
Sorry...
You could spend £10k on a scooby/evo and still be as quick..
I think for £40k, they'd be other things on my list.
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fq400 would eat that for dinner and you could get one for 24k so 40k for a golf :lipsrsealed:
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But it's still a golf....
Sorry...
You could spend £10k on a scooby/evo and still be as quick..
I think for £40k, they'd be other things on my list.
Well its down to opinion I guess. But i can see the appeal with having the fastest golf in the Uk. Its only £40k because it appears someone is trying to make some money from it. You could get the same thing done yourself for about 15k!
You may call it "just a golf" for 40k but if you look at a BMW 3 series.. a basic edition can be bought for just over 25k where as the M3 is 55k... but its still an 3 series???
As for Scooby or Evo.... wouldnt be seen dead in one (thats just my opinion ofcourse)
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fq400 would eat that for dinner and you could get one for 24k so 40k for a golf :lipsrsealed:
thats like saying you could get a mk4 R32 supercharged with 450bhp for 20k and that would pi$$ all over the Evo :lipsrsealed:
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Who on earth would want a evo,scobby whatever they are anyway.Alright they may be quick but look sh!t! Come on guys stay loyal to the brand!
JAP RICER equals CHAV,CHAV CHEAP PLASTIC TACKY INTERIORS STUPID BODYKITS and DRIVEN BY BLOKES IN REPLICA RALLY JACKETS!!
EURO GOLF equals QUALITY, STYLE, EXCELLENT RESIDUALS, so easy to live with day to day allround.
Fair enough the jap ricers are quick but not my cup of tea,i,l keep it europeon any day.The jap machines just dont have the quality and image i want to portray.
But each to their own.
Chrissy.
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Oh don't get me wrong chrissy...
I'm not saying the R32 is a bad car, but I'd only have a standard one... if I had 37k in my pocket, I wouldn't think (or want) to spend it on a R32.. 400bhp or not!.
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Mind you if you look on the AUDI website 06 plate RS4,S are approaching 40k. Suppose i,d be tempted by that mind! rather than a 40 k golf. :smiley:
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To be fair that golf is overpriced.. but may just tempt someone who is not quite in the know. Like i said you could pick up an used r32 for 20k add a bi-turbo for 10k and you have got a 550bhp supercar slayer for 30k approx... which would make a RS6 look like a pram. All hypothetically speaking ofcourse...
I wouldnt do it.. but i guess the temptation is there to have a car that would make others look a little stupid when they have paid much more for their cars.
The difference between the Scooby/Evos is that you just wouldnt expect it from a golf.... where as a Scooby or Evo would probably be plastered with stickers and go faster stripes etc. The Golf still has the respect value in my opinion.. where as the others dont, and are just exactly what they are.. a fast car. :nerd:
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WELL SAID THAT MAN :wink:
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That R32 Turbo is Virtuoso's on www.r32oc.com
http://www.r32oc.com/showthread.php?t=2700
There is a vid on that link....imo its a nice R32...colour, rims...and the badges can be sorted :smiley:
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£37,000! wtf?!
Not being funny, but why would anyone spend nearly £40k on a golf?
HGP R32 Golf:
V6, Garrett turbine. DSG.
450hp, 580Nm, 3.7kg/hp
0-100: 3.97s
0-200: 13.3s (Gallardo: 13.6; 575M Maranello: 13.7)
60-100: 2s
80-120:2.3s
Max: 285 (310)
Breaks: 390mm front, 300mm back (from SL65 AMG)
Price, car: 40340 Euro
Engine and transmission (DSG): 17600
Exhaust: 2500
Suspension: 1200
19" with tires: 2200
Breaks: 6800
Total: 70640 Euro
On the track faster than 911 Turbo by 40 seks and faster than M3 CSL by almost 1 minute.
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To be fair that golf is overpriced.. but may just tempt someone who is not quite in the know. Like i said you could pick up an used r32 for 20k add a bi-turbo for 10k and you have got a 550bhp supercar slayer for 30k approx... which would make a RS6 look like a pram. All hypothetically speaking ofcourse...
I wouldnt do it.. but i guess the temptation is there to have a car that would make others look a little stupid when they have paid much more for their cars.
The difference between the Scooby/Evos is that you just wouldnt expect it from a golf.... where as a Scooby or Evo would probably be plastered with stickers and go faster stripes etc. The Golf still has the respect value in my opinion.. where as the others dont, and are just exactly what they are.. a fast car. :nerd:
please, 10k for biturbo, aha... :rolleyes:
What about transmission? Don't tell me it does not need work with 550 eager horsies ripping it apart.
And if you got DSG you have to make some work on it, as it has 400Nm limit.
Then you have cooling issues as well.
Then you definitely need breaks.
Then you need an exhaust because you do not want you turbos to melt (On HGP Golf there is a valve that opens up at higher revs and releases some of the exhaust gases directly into atmosphere just to get the pressure down).
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Fair play to the guy for having this done, I would love have a go in it :evil: I bet its just as fun if not more than 100k supercars.
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defo fair play to him for doing this and i would rather have that than some jap crap just to shock the fook out of them :evil:.
its just its alot of cash on an r32.
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I'm surprised the DSG gearbox can take all that power and torque :huh: :undecided:
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I'm surprised the DSG gearbox can take all that power and torque :huh: :undecided:
The DSG gearbox is programmable, a bit like the ECU of the engine. You can alter the clamping strength of the clutch packs by electronically altering the clamping pressure. It works, but it will reduce the lifespan of the clutch packs and only a few companies in Germany are competent enough to offer it. :nerd:
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Cheers Hurdy ... do you know what the recommended max torque is for a standard DSG box ?
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He'll choose the ED30 with his own money or the R32 if it is a company car :wink:
And if he picks all six numbers on Satuday he would more than likley go for both! :smiley:
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Cheers Hurdy ... do you know what the recommended max torque is for a standard DSG box ?
400Nm
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Cheers Hurdy ... do you know what the recommended max torque is for a standard DSG box ?
Official VW rating is 350nm, but it will take up to 400nm without any problems. Over 400nm you will get some slippage in the clutch when it changes gears.
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A guy from Kazakhstan, who has Mk5 R32 HGP as well as Mitsu EvoVIII MR and Subaru Impreza STi PPP said the following:
R32 - 440ps, 585Nm, DSG.
0-62mph: 4.5 sek (lower than promised, probably due to lower quality petrol used), max achieved - 300kmh.
For the quartermile the car is not so good, because of the DSG. Evo with its carbon clutch takes the lead of approx 30 meters, Golf catches up in second gear, passes, and comes first to the finish line.
The car is quite ok in turns.
It starts to get unsettled after 260kmh because of the aerodynamics. After 1.5 years of active (sometimes brutal) driving nothing broke down. The only problem is that cooling system is insufficient in hot weather. On the other hand, he had to constantly change clutch and gearbox on Mitsu and Subaru, and on Subaru he had to change the engine as well.
Petrol consumption: 11 - 18 litres in city, 9-16 litres on highway.
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Kazakhstan?? Borat?? :grin: just jokes....imo i wouldnt buy the golf already done...i would prefare to have been given the money and have it done myself so i know whats going on etc...and yeah i would prefare the Golf over evo's, impreza's, and any other car around the £40k mark just to see the look on their face when you fly past them :evil: It would be fun but ofcourse you would need another car to use....
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To be fair that golf is overpriced.. but may just tempt someone who is not quite in the know. Like i said you could pick up an used r32 for 20k add a bi-turbo for 10k and you have got a 550bhp supercar slayer for 30k approx... which would make a RS6 look like a pram. All hypothetically speaking ofcourse...
I wouldnt do it.. but i guess the temptation is there to have a car that would make others look a little stupid when they have paid much more for their cars.
The difference between the Scooby/Evos is that you just wouldnt expect it from a golf.... where as a Scooby or Evo would probably be plastered with stickers and go faster stripes etc. The Golf still has the respect value in my opinion.. where as the others dont, and are just exactly what they are.. a fast car. :nerd:
please, 10k for biturbo, aha... :rolleyes:
What about transmission? Don't tell me it does not need work with 550 eager horsies ripping it apart.
And if you got DSG you have to make some work on it, as it has 400Nm limit.
Then you have cooling issues as well.
Then you definitely need breaks.
Then you need an exhaust because you do not want you turbos to melt (On HGP Golf there is a valve that opens up at higher revs and releases some of the exhaust gases directly into atmosphere just to get the pressure down).
Manual my child.... the way its meant to be :cool:
ok so add another 5k if we are being specific... the point is, its still cheaper than buying a Porsche turboo as you compared it to.
But lets not kidd anyone.. We would all like one, but would we pay 40k for it, probably not. Like Manu said it would be much more appreciated if you did it yourself step by step.
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Has to be the R32 for me. It just feels far more special than an ed30 in my opinion.
WIth respect to the modded R32...I don't think many Evo enthusiasts would be trembling in their shoes to be honest. I agree the jap cars look rubbish but the Evo VIII MR and IX only have to be tickled to produce completely reliable 400-450 bhp/ >400 lb ft cars for around 3-4k with simply bolt-on parts. If one spent 10-15k on an Evo, the kind of figures you're looking at are 650-750 bhp from blown forged/stroked lumps. These are also really solidly reliable as the 4G63 is just a bullet proof engine.
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Has to be the R32 for me. It just feels far more special than an ed30 in my opinion.
WIth respect to the modded R32...I don't think many Evo enthusiasts would be trembling in their shoes to be honest. I agree the jap cars look rubbish but the Evo VIII MR and IX only have to be tickled to produce completely reliable 400-450 bhp/ >400 lb ft cars for around 3-4k with simply bolt-on parts. If one spent 10-15k on an Evo, the kind of figures you're looking at are 650-750 bhp from blown forged/stroked lumps. These are also really solidly reliable as the 4G63 is just a bullet proof engine.
I would imagine the Evo to be pretty tough to use as an everyday car... where as I would hope the golf would be a little better... :nerd:
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Has to be the R32 for me. It just feels far more special than an ed30 in my opinion.
WIth respect to the modded R32...I don't think many Evo enthusiasts would be trembling in their shoes to be honest. I agree the jap cars look rubbish but the Evo VIII MR and IX only have to be tickled to produce completely reliable 400-450 bhp/ >400 lb ft cars for around 3-4k with simply bolt-on parts. If one spent 10-15k on an Evo, the kind of figures you're looking at are 650-750 bhp from blown forged/stroked lumps. These are also really solidly reliable as the 4G63 is just a bullet proof engine.
I would imagine the Evo to be pretty tough to use as an everyday car... where as I would hope the golf would be a little better... :nerd:
Better in what way? If you mean the Evo is not subtle enough/too loud to be used every day, I agree in terms of the very highly modded 600+ bhp cars which can also suffer from significant turbo lag. The less extensively modded Evos (such as the one I had with 405bhp/380 lb ft) are pretty similar to stock in terms of ease of use. I found it fine to drive daily.
The main reasons not to have an Evo are the looks and the absolutely attrocious interior quality in my opinion. Other than that they are phenomenally good cars and just as driveable every day as anything else.
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Has to be the R32 for me. It just feels far more special than an ed30 in my opinion.
WIth respect to the modded R32...I don't think many Evo enthusiasts would be trembling in their shoes to be honest. I agree the jap cars look rubbish but the Evo VIII MR and IX only have to be tickled to produce completely reliable 400-450 bhp/ >400 lb ft cars for around 3-4k with simply bolt-on parts. If one spent 10-15k on an Evo, the kind of figures you're looking at are 650-750 bhp from blown forged/stroked lumps. These are also really solidly reliable as the 4G63 is just a bullet proof engine.
I would imagine the Evo to be pretty tough to use as an everyday car... where as I would hope the golf would be a little better... :nerd:
Better in what way? If you mean the Evo is not subtle enough/too loud to be used every day, I agree in terms of the very highly modded 600+ bhp cars which can also suffer from significant turbo lag. The less extensively modded Evos (such as the one I had with 405bhp/380 lb ft) are pretty similar to stock in terms of ease of use. I found it fine to drive daily.
The main reasons not to have an Evo are the looks and the absolutely attrocious interior quality in my opinion. Other than that they are phenomenally good cars and just as driveable every day as anything else.
Just exactly what you mentioned.. cabin quality, road noise, and simply levels of comfort for passengers I would imagine. I would love to have a EVo for a blast on a weekend, but come moday morning, I want my R32 back!! Cant imagine the Evo being much fun for long motorway journeys either. I wouldnt bother with the Scooby... although a great peice of kit for the track... I just couldnt stand the shame of driving one on the roads. Sorry.
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Kazakhstan?? Borat?? :grin: just jokes....imo i wouldnt buy the golf already done...i would prefare to have been given the money and have it done myself so i know whats going on etc...and yeah i would prefare the Golf over evo's, impreza's, and any other car around the £40k mark just to see the look on their face when you fly past them :evil: It would be fun but ofcourse you would need another car to use....
how do you mean? He bought a new golf and agreed directly with HGP to have the golf "fixed" right away.
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To be fair that golf is overpriced.. but may just tempt someone who is not quite in the know. Like i said you could pick up an used r32 for 20k add a bi-turbo for 10k and you have got a 550bhp supercar slayer for 30k approx... which would make a RS6 look like a pram. All hypothetically speaking ofcourse...
I wouldnt do it.. but i guess the temptation is there to have a car that would make others look a little stupid when they have paid much more for their cars.
The difference between the Scooby/Evos is that you just wouldnt expect it from a golf.... where as a Scooby or Evo would probably be plastered with stickers and go faster stripes etc. The Golf still has the respect value in my opinion.. where as the others dont, and are just exactly what they are.. a fast car. :nerd:
please, 10k for biturbo, aha... :rolleyes:
What about transmission? Don't tell me it does not need work with 550 eager horsies ripping it apart.
And if you got DSG you have to make some work on it, as it has 400Nm limit.
Then you have cooling issues as well.
Then you definitely need breaks.
Then you need an exhaust because you do not want you turbos to melt (On HGP Golf there is a valve that opens up at higher revs and releases some of the exhaust gases directly into atmosphere just to get the pressure down).
Manual my child.... the way its meant to be :cool:
ok so add another 5k if we are being specific... the point is, its still cheaper than buying a Porsche turboo as you compared it to.
But lets not kidd anyone.. We would all like one, but would we pay 40k for it, probably not. Like Manu said it would be much more appreciated if you did it yourself step by step.
for sure it would be cheaper
and also it is fun to surprise sportcar drivers with a sleeper Golf (there is that exhaust sound, but it is still a Golf)
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Im not a fan of the r32 mkv................the mkIV was truly stupenous like as if vw had given the engineers free regin.the v6 sound so memorable.
i drove the r32 mkv in listers vw much to the dread of the sales man! ha ha.
dont worry i still walked out with a golf gti mkv which put much more of a smile on my face, the way is boost is incredible.
i think i need a ed30!
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Kazakhstan?? Borat?? :grin: just jokes....imo i wouldnt buy the golf already done...i would prefare to have been given the money and have it done myself so i know whats going on etc...and yeah i would prefare the Golf over evo's, impreza's, and any other car around the £40k mark just to see the look on their face when you fly past them :evil: It would be fun but ofcourse you would need another car to use....
how do you mean? He bought a new golf and agreed directly with HGP to have the golf "fixed" right away.
I meant like i wouldnt buy a second hand car that already had the kit fitted...if you get me?
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Im not a fan of the r32 mkv................the mkIV was truly stupenous like as if vw had given the engineers free regin.the v6 sound so memorable.
i drove the r32 mkv in listers vw much to the dread of the sales man! ha ha.
dont worry i still walked out with a golf gti mkv which put much more of a smile on my face, the way is boost is incredible.
i think i need a ed30!
Each to their own... but the MKV sounds better than the MKIV!
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They chose the Ed30 :grin:
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They chose the Ed30 :grin:
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Link here :-
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=17649
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Folish boy :grin:
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Folish boy :grin:
Whats a Folish Boy? :laugh: Does the R32 make you loose the inability to spell :wink: