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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Crockers on 30 July 2018, 16:09
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Hi
Does anyone use the above tyres on their GTi?' If so how do you find them?
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I have them on my a6 quattro ( on winter Wheels) and wife's citigo all year round. If they did them in 20" I would running them all year on audi. They are very very good in everything apart from solid ice. I have only had gti for 6 weeks but when 18" tyres are finished I'll be putting them on for winter and getting some 19" bbs for Summers.
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I consider them to be a Jack of all trades. I'd prefer to stick with having specific summer and winter tyres. As I've often needed to argue, 2 sets of wheels and tyres don't cost any more than one set in the long run as you can only wear out one set at a time.
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I asked Honest John (D.Telegraph motoring writer) about fitting them to my Gti . He replied they work better with higher profile tyres not the 40 profile tyres fitted to the Golf. I have Conti winter tyres and they work really well. Use Falken Azensis FK510 summer tyres and they are really good too.
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Anyone seen the new Bridgestone A005??
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All the reviews I have read say that the Crossclimates have weak snow performance.
All the research I have done on the subject indicates that the safest option is still dedicated summer and dedicated winter tyres.
This year I will be buying winter tyres for my GTI. Though we do live in the northern half of the UK, so get a lot more snow and ice.
This is worth a watch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU4O3ulin80 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU4O3ulin80)
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Good comparison here (on smaller wheels)
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-AutoNavigator-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
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http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Is-there-a-true-all-season-tyre-We-find-out.htm (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Is-there-a-true-all-season-tyre-We-find-out.htm)
"Everyone has a different priority for their own safety, which is why we've provided all the data collected to help you decide which type of tyre works best for your own circumstances. Michelin haven't performed the impossible with the new CrossClimate, but they have moved the balance of compromise to a more comfortable point for what we see as the average year round motoring in the UK. For ultimate performance, or on larger, more powerful cars, a dedicated summer and winter tyre combination is still the most effective choice."
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I asked Honest John (D.Telegraph motoring writer) about fitting them to my Gti . He replied they work better with higher profile tyres not the 40 profile tyres fitted to the Golf. I have Conti winter tyres and they work really well. Use Falken Azensis FK510 summer tyres and they are really good too.
WinterContact TS850 P?
The TS860 P is out, but not in the size I need yet. Looks like they will be more focused on performance.
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Good comparison here (on smaller wheels)
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-AutoNavigator-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
"Auto Navigator have tested fourteen 205/55 R16 summer tyres, but also included an all season tyre (the Michelin CrossClimate), a full winter tyre, and most interestingly worn summer and winter tyres."
So the CrossClimate finished 9th and that was in the 16 inch touring tyres size.
I wonder how they would do against 17 or 18 inch performance tyres.
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How about this review - this is ADAC (Allgemeiner Deutscher Automobil-Club), the Germans of course knowing more about seasonal tyres than we do in the UK:
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-ADAC-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
Note:
Even the best all season tyres on test couldn't earn the ADAC "highly recommended" label, with the testers preferring the combination of a dedicated summer / winter tyre pairing. This was due to the all season tyres being weaker than a dedicated summer tyre in the dry, and not as good as the winter tyre in snow / ice - again this is more of a consideration for parts of Europe which have larger amounts of snowfall than the majority of the UK.
I think the problem though is as noted by previous posters - all season tyres are not about low profile high performance... and the winter aspect demands larger sidewalls.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I'm seriously thinking about buying the new Bridgestone A005 All Weather tyre to use instead of the Michelin PS4 summer. They have the snow symbol so are an official snow rated tyre and are also A rated for wet. I think these would be a better option than a full winter for the two days a year we might have a dusting of snow. Anyone used these?
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These look a decent option if you've a grand to spare
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-vw-golf-mk7-5-gti-alloy-wheels-perrili-p7-all-season-tyres-8-mil/283210131280?epid=11014679795&hash=item41f0a3a750:g:Hj4AAOSwu7xbwzz8:rk:199:pf:0
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Not keen on those rims really. Look a bit halfordsish. Would either go for a second set of original GTi wheels or a set of Cadiz.
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These look a decent option if you've a grand to spare
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-vw-golf-mk7-5-gti-alloy-wheels-perrili-p7-all-season-tyres-8-mil/283210131280?epid=11014679795&hash=item41f0a3a750:g:Hj4AAOSwu7xbwzz8:rk:199:pf:0
I think those wheels belong to forum member Mikeyd1. He’s also on golfmk7.com forum and has spoken of selling his grey powder coated Sevilles with red pin stripe.
Not keen on those rims really. Look a bit halfordsish. Would either go for a second set of original GTi wheels or a set of Cadiz.
I personally think that the powder coated / painted VW Seville wheels at the eBay link posted by kalimon would be much more durable for winter use than a set of diamond cut Austins or Cadiz. No risk of white worm either and the tyres on the Sevilles look almost new.
Just my opinion though.
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I’d be all over them if I had the spare funds and lived a lot closer.
I quite like that wheel design.
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I’d be all over them if I had the spare funds and lived a lot closer.
I quite like that wheel design.
Mikeyd1 only bought the wheels at the beginning of August, so like the tyres, they’re almost brand new.
I quite like them too. If they fitted my Polo GTI I’d be very interested, but the Golf and Polo have different bolt patterns (PCD for the Golf is 5x112 and the Polo is 5x100) so they wouldn’t fit my car. 18” on the (previous generation) Polo GTI might be a bit tight too.
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I'd have them without the red stripe on. The Cadiz I've seen are either powder coated or flat silver, so proper winters and no diamond cut.
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perrilli tyres?????
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These look a decent option if you've a grand to spare
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-vw-golf-mk7-5-gti-alloy-wheels-perrili-p7-all-season-tyres-8-mil/283210131280?epid=11014679795&hash=item41f0a3a750:g:Hj4AAOSwu7xbwzz8:rk:199:pf:0
Quite surprised they haven't gone already, seems a very keen price. Although the wheels aren't exactly my cuppa, as winters they would be ideal and very saleable later on. I might be convincing myself, I'm going to Yorkshire over Christmas and tyres were in the back of my mind although it was fine when I was there in December last year. There are a few logistical issues plus not sure how Direct Line will view changing the wheels, they can be a bit awkward at times.... :rolleyes:
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You shouldn't have any issues putting winter tyres on of they are the correct official VW size and spec. I'm sure someone posted a document with what insurance companies were ok with winter tyres.
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You shouldn't have any issues putting winter tyres on of they are the correct official VW size and spec. I'm sure someone posted a document with what insurance companies were ok with winter tyres.
Thanks, might have a look on their website too. Never had winters before so I've also yet to convince my pocket of the value. It just doesn't get that cold that often down here let alone snow.
Edit: just called DL and they would change the policy as it would be a modification but there would be no charge.
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It's the cold temperatures I'm more bothered about than the snow really.
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Doh! I thought these were winter tyres when they are actually all season so not what I was thinking of. The Pirelli website was pretty poor too, I hate BS and I can't think of a better descriptive for "designed for drivers living in urban areas searching for an innovative and alternative mobility solution". Tw@ts. They are tyres, not jet packs or similar :rolleyes:
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I ran CrossClimates in winter on my M135i for many years, they handle cold and wet infinitely better than summer tyres and will drag you out of snow, perhaps not as fast as proper winters, but they'll do it.
For the other 95% of the season where it's just plain old horrible and cold, they're far superior to their wobbly winter cousins.
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I’ve just changed onto crossclimates and 18inch wheels for the winter from 19 inch Santiagos and continental summer tyres as the contis struggled at times last winter, so far so good tho they definitely are not as good as the continentals in the dry when pushed hard thru the corners, but to be fair I wouldn’t expect them to match the continentals, I’m looking forward to see how they cope thru the winter, we don’t tend to get lots of snow locally so hopefully they will manage well enough
However the car is so much more comfortable and quieter on the 18 inch wheels I might not put the 19s back on.
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Also consider the Bridgestone Weather Control A005
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
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I mentioned those earlier in the thread and nobody replied :grin: :grin:
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Bridgestone have been making all-season tyres for years - Potenzas are sh!te in all weathers and temperatures! :whistle:
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This is a new all season tyre Matt and by all accounts it's very very good.
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Weirdly, my Bridgestone Turanzas on the Polo GTI seem to handle moderately low temps (3-8C) better than Summer temps (15C+) in terms of grip and traction. They're still incredibly noisy though. I thought VW had perhaps scrimped on the soundproofing until I got a go in the reef blue GTI at Lookers Scotswood Road on standard 17" wheels (Michelin Primacy tyres).
I'd always look to Michelin for aftermarket tyres - they not only start well, but they perform all the way down to 2mm. Some "great" tyres fade right off when they're half done.
I'd always take professional reviews with a pinch of salt, especially on a new tyre with no user reviews.
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This test makes an interesting read: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92873/all-season-tyre-test-20182019-results-by-category
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Bridgestone A005 wasn't tested though. :whistle:
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This test makes an interesting read: https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92873/all-season-tyre-test-20182019-results-by-category
Continental all season contact did well.
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I put continental contact all season on 3 weeks ago so far so good , quieter than the Bridgestone
Fuel economy seems slightly better
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I put continental contact all season on 3 weeks ago so far so good , quieter than the Bridgestone
Fuel economy seems slightly better
Quieter than what? Bridgestone S001s or A005s?