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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: spocktra50 on 12 March 2003, 00:07
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Im thinking of changing my car.At the moment i drive a 205 gti [which is fantastic] but want something a little more comfortable.Is the golf gti more civilised to drive than the 205 ? Im asking because as you may or may not know the little peugeots are practically undriveable at low speeds due to the delicate throttle set up.Brilliant for back road blasts but rubbish around town. Any comments would be appreciated.
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Im thinking of changing my car.At the moment i drive a 205 gti [which is fantastic] but want something a little more comfortable.Is the golf gti more civilised to drive than the 205 ? Im asking because as you may or may not know ?the little peugeots are practically undriveable at low speeds due to the delicate throttle set up.Brilliant for back road blasts but rubbish around town. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Any comments would be appreciated. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
How shall I put it. All Golfs are more civilised than a 205 GTI ;-)
I'm afraid a 205GTi is nothing more than a motorised rollerskate.
With a Golf, you will notice that you are driving a heavier a car, and at lower speeds you could consider it more civilised. GTIs don't perform until they are angry, and until that point, they remain a p'sey cat.
Regards,
Justin
BTW. "psey" had to be abbrieviated. Unfortunately a "male pussy cat" is not a valid statement :-)
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the only answer you will get from everyone on this site is that golfs ARE the best. If you dont believe us then take one for a test drive and you will not look back
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The 205 is a better drivers car, and in the right hands can out handle any standard Golf, ( I'm waiting for the death threats, but its true!). But of course in the wrong hands the 205 lets you know your a crap driver by throwing you backwards through the nearest hedge. The Golf is far better made and is much more civilised, Its a proper car that is just as happy to arse around town stuck in traffic jams, just as much as pushing the bounderys of throttle induced understeer and lift off oversteer on the open road.
Don't get a Mk3 unless its a VR6, but even then don't expect mental performance, its more like a GT than a proper GTI, ( its too damn heavy.) oh, and don't get a white one. (It looks like a portacabin).
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Talking from experience here mk3s are better. I have owned both and my MK3 GTI 8V has out run MK2 GTI 8V so I am not to sure that MK2's are that much quicker. Possibly just a little bit
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Of course you should, i have driven aircooled vdubs all my life and have only recently got a mk2 gti (in white Mo3000 and no it does not look like a portacabin more like a fuel injected bidet actually ;) I think its pretty good, heavy seems to be a good description but waaayyyy more fun than the 205gti i borrowed off a friend last week. I would recommend a mk1 tho i think they look the coolest of all the golfs but expensive for wot you get.
c ya
66split
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Thanks for the comments chaps,going to look at a 8v 1989 92,000 miles he wants a grand but im hoping to pay 850.00 ish.
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Talking from experience here mk3s are better. ?I have owned both and my MK3 GTI 8V has out run MK2 GTI 8V so I am not to sure that MK2's are that much quicker. ?Possibly just a little bit
;) Do what?!?
The Mk3 is a tank. Drives like tank, looks like a tank, goes like a tank. The Mk3 GTI was nothing more than a rebadged GL. The Mk3GTI 16v was a disgrace.
I have one thing to say about Mk3s - girls car :-)
Regards,
Justin
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try me some time boy
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Of course you should, i have driven aircooled vdubs all my life and have only recently got a mk2 gti (in white Mo3000 and no it does not look like a portacabin more like a fuel injected bidet actually ;) I think its pretty good, heavy seems to be a good description but waaayyyy more fun than the 205gti i ?borrowed off a friend last week. ?I would recommend a mk1 tho i think they look the coolest of all the golfs but expensive for wot you get.
c ya
66split
I was on about the Mk3 looking like a portacabin, but Bidet is a much better description....... What about one of those pink elephants that you put 10p in for a quick ride? It probably out handles a Mk3......
I might as well add here, My wife has a Mk3 GTI, I have A Mk1 Campaign ( Restoring), And Mk2 GTI 16V as me daily runabout. The Mk2 is by far a better drive than the Heavy weight Mk3. It actually corners, and doesnt get pissed on by lesser machines. I am quite impressed that Stoat's Mk3 can outrun A Mk2 8V. Considering it has the same brake horse, but wieghs 18% more......... Either the Mk2 wasn't trying/Knackered, or Stoat has his own Therory on Physics. You decide.
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I was not trying to say that mk3's are quicker. If you read the email properly you would see that I did say mk2's should be quicker, but everyone keeps on that mk2 are sooo much better but still it has yet to be proven that they are sooo much better ;)
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Mk3's will have to rust better than a Mk2 if they stand any chance of being quicker. lose that weight fat boy!
We need more of this in fighting between the various Golf breeds....... Hell lets start a war, everyone else is doing it! We could probably even get UN backing for this one. ;D
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try me some time boy
Why?
You'd lose :-)
Regards,
Justin
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I am quite willing to abuse other cars. After all we have the right to we have VWs and golfs even better. Not saying that my car is slow but, any ideas on how to make it quicker for cheap.
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Trade it in for a nice Mk2. :D
Seriously, Cam it, port it, tune it, floor it.
If you want to go the corperate whore way, chip it.
Just a simple question. Are you the type of owner who has a DTM backbox and Splitfire plugs? ;)
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I have a remus twin square full system and I dont have a clue what you mean by splitfire plugs I presume you mean the spark plugs. Why do you ask?? Ive already had the nice mk2 but it was to slow so I got myself a mk3. It was a 1.3l :P
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You seem to have gone off on one here chaps i only asked for a bit of advice and its turned into a bit of a mines better than yours thing.Anyway definitely going to sell the pug and go for a mk 2 8v completely original if i can find one.
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I have a remus twin square full system and I dont have a clue what you mean by splitfire plugs I presume you mean the spark plugs. ?Why do you ask?? ?Ive already had the nice mk2 but it was to slow so I got myself a mk3. ?It was a 1.3l :P
I rest my case.
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You seem to have gone off on one here chaps i only asked for a bit of advice and its turned into a bit of a mines better than yours thing.Anyway definitely going to sell the pug and go for a mk 2 8v completely original if i can find one.
Good call. You should get a good one for around a grand to 1500. But can pay stupid money for a really tidy one. Good luck.
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What do you mean by that Mr Mo3000 I dont think there is anything wrong with my set up at them moment
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vw is definatly the way to go they ve got so much class especially the mk2 . there so solid beter all round than that french poo vw is german quality at its finest.
Harr1s.....
;) ;)
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I gotta drop a comment here bcoz my bro has a 205 gti, I own a mk2 driver and I want a mk3 vr6 Highline.
Right, well my bros 205 started off as a 1.6 gti and I totally agree about the jumpyness at low speeds, but once up to speed it was fine. He has since replaced the 1.6 lump with a Mi16 (1.9 16v lump) this has revolutionised the car, its not jumpy at low speeds anymore and the performance is amazing, hes pissed over quite a few cars that should not have even broken sweat (and also recorded a 14.9 sec quarter at Santa Pod 16-3-03) the car is an animal, its still pulling at 133mph hitting the limiter in 5th (the 1.6 gearbox and running gear is still installed) so basically im saying that the 205 should be given some respect as a out and out performance classic car (note hes spent less than ?2000 to achieve this performance :o)
However, as im a golf owner (and not a GTI owner admittedly, although im friends with those who are) i have to say that i find the golf less hard work to drive, its not got the temperement of the pug which just wants 2 go faster and faster, the golf is such a solid and smooth car, the build quality in my opinion is infinitely better, no rattling panels or loose parts when the tunes are up. Also I feel theres a better sense of ownership with a golf people always flash at u (esp if u have a phat mk2 like me :D) and theres always help available...
But I dont know, although I agree the mk3 has put on weight, u cant argue that a tuned vr6 with full leather and highline spec sitting low on chrome bbs's isnt a tempting idea ;D, then again so is a 20v turbo mk2...
Sigh, such is life :P
Cheers ive prob not helped
Ows
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But there is also a mk3 going round with two VR6 turbo lumps in it, so it just goes to show if you are willing to put in the cash you can get what you like
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Too right! and then i woke up...
two audi RS6 engines or porsche turbo lumps always seem an interesting daydream
Cheers
Ows
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You cant go wrong with a mk2 Golf, if it's looked after it will run forever. The Polo G40 is about the same size as the 205 only it's better made, a very underrated car in my opinion, but the G Lader supercharger needs regular servicing which can be expensive Jabbasport are specialists at G Lader rebuilds.
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On the subject of the G40, I read a report once that also said it was under-rated.
Their conclusion was that because of the gearing, its 0-60 was not very good, and it would be had by a 16v Clio. However, its 0-100 was meant to be superb.
Regards,
Justin