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Title: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 06 March 2011, 14:47
Well on the 24th November 2010 I picked up a car that i'd loved since ive loved cars.. My mk2 GTI.. My budget was very strict and i didn't want a minter i paid £900 of the gueens notes with a full tank of petrol which i thought was a steal for a car like this..

The car is a 3dr Royal metallic blue GTI 8v just tipped over 150k which is low mileage.. Also its on a J reg so an AUG 91' car.. I viewed and purchased the car in the dark so the next day after getting it home i didn't know what to expect.. The car surprised me it seems to be a very straight car very few visible rust spots but time will tell once i take trim panels off etc.. The paint work has also suffered really bad from lacquer peel around most windows and the drivers door which makes me think this has had a spray job before and not a good one..

The interior well the seats seem to be in mint condition.. Everything else inside the car seems to have took a battering during its life and multiple pieces of interior trim are broken or missing..

To this day i know absolutely nothing about mk2's so this is a project for the car and for my own learning.. the car pulls very well and no signs of smoke or losing of oil/coolant etc which is a good thing and i was told the engine only good for 150k but it seems to be great at the moment..

This will be an ongoing project lasting at least a year as i will doing all the work (well as much as possible) myself including a respray at some point next year.. So dont expect updates every day or so as progress will be slow.. If you have any questions about what im doing or parts you may have feel free to pm me..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 06 March 2011, 14:47
Well some good news.. the mk2 has moved into its new home next to my garage and its fenced in so its secure   there was more room than expected and i can get in and out of the car....

Finally have the MK3 here im taking the engine out over the weekend so will have loads of pics for you guys to look at..  once this is done 'operation restoration' can begin 

Drove it for 5 mins last week and realised i miss this already 

Update soooooooooonnnnn........
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 06 March 2011, 14:49
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Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 06 March 2011, 14:49
Well 'Operation Restoration' has begun.. ive booked the next 2 days off work to do some more.. ive stripped the front end off.. removed some wiring from engine and of course the lights.. rust doesnt seem to bad from what i can see at the mo just a lot of bits need refurbing as i will in due course..

The project is hopefully going to start going at a better pace as i need this finished as im gona get rid of the leon and use this as my daily driver..

Once the loom is removed it will be sent off with the mk3 ABF loom to RubJonny to work his magic and splice them together for easier installation plus i dont have the time..

The ABF needs to be lifting onto my engine stand and is going to be given..

New cambelt, waterpump and tesnioner
New auxiliary belt
new rocker cover gasket
remove sump clean and clean pick up
New oil pump
And going to generally check over the engine to see if anything because of wear and tear needs replacing..

updates to follow soon.. and pics hopefully
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 06 March 2011, 14:50
Right a little update from todays efforts..

Read up a little on removing the dash and i thought i might as well so i can get to the wiring much easier and why its out i could change to a mk3 golf heater matrix so i dont set on fire while driving along one day 

Heres pics of how she stands today.. im hoping to find a welders who will sort out all my rust problems.. and then in a couple of months should be going body shop for a full respray.. door shuts.. windows removed the whole thing.. I also removed a very bad immobilier/alarm today was fitted very cowboy so will be tidying up the wiring that it left over the coming weeks.. and a thatcham cat 1 fitted once the car is finished..

Going to remove the carpet soon and look for rust as i dont wana drive the car and spend loads of money on it to then in a years time find loads of rust..

anyways heres the pics..

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Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Wayne on 06 March 2011, 16:54
Good luck with the project :afro:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 06 March 2011, 19:05
Cheers Wayne.. I only started a dub rides thread as well as a project thread is that im gona need help at various stages throughout this build so as you cant post in project threads thought i may as well ask my questions in this thread  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 07 March 2011, 20:44
il be watching this one.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 07 March 2011, 21:21
Right i have just received a cordless impact wrench to see if that will free my seized 30mm hub nut...

I need to remove the drive shafts ive read odds and sods but what do you guys recon is the easiest way ?? I bought a 12 point spline m8 bit as advised from threads...  any other tools needed ??

Ive bought a 11mm brake spanner because i want to remove and refurb my brake servo to make removing the wiring much easier.. any advice on removing this ?? and do they really wear out and worth replacing as its quite rusty but seen replacements for like £130 so quite steep...

Cheers

Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 March 2011, 13:54
Sand the servo off and paint it.

A breaker bar and some scaf-pole is more likely to resolve your seized nut issues than some impact gun.  Admit it to yourself, you've bought a toy, not a tool.

You'll need the 12-spline bit to do the driveshaft bolts.  Get everything cracked off before you start doing anything like releasing brake lines etc - it'll make your life a lot easier if things are slackened off before it's all apart and non-functioning.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 08 March 2011, 13:58
Sand the servo off and paint it.

A breaker bar and some scaf-pole is more likely to resolve your seized nut issues than some impact gun.  Admit it to yourself, you've bought a toy, not a tool.

You'll need the 12-spline bit to do the driveshaft bolts.  Get everything cracked off before you start doing anything like releasing brake lines etc - it'll make your life a lot easier if things are slackened off before it's all apart and non-functioning.

Listen to this man, if it's not an insult you know it's usually very good advice! :afro:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 08 March 2011, 14:24
Yer thanks guys will get some scaf pole to go on my breaker bar.. I thought the impact gun would be of good use obviously I was wrong  :grin: my only problem is the socket keeps slipping and is startin to round off I can still get purchase just don't wana round it..

Yer thanks for info on servo.. Will just repaint it..

Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Mr Blue on 08 March 2011, 18:46
I returned my impact gun. Wouldnt shift anything on the mk2 :laugh:

Looking good. Keep them pics coming :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 08 March 2011, 19:46
Cheers blue I'm usin your mk2 as inspiration as this is going to be my daily.. How much was your spray job if you don't mind me asking ??

Dan
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 March 2011, 21:50
my only problem is the socket keeps slipping and is startin to round off I can still get purchase just don't wana round it..

Do you have a 12-sided socket or 6-sided?  If you're mucking about with a 12-sider go buy a 6-sider - much more likely to allow you to crack the nut off.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 08 March 2011, 23:16
I forgot I had a metre long snap-on ratchet bar  :laugh:  have a 1/2 to 3/4 adaptor on way will try with that when it arrives.. My brake spanner come today aswell so will remove servo the weekend.. Happy days  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 09 March 2011, 22:17
DH i have a 12 sided socket will look for a 30mm 6 sided one didnt think of that  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 09 March 2011, 22:40
Now have a 6 sided Socket on order will see if that budges it the weekend..

Also anyone got any info on removing servo... ive read use a syringe to drain filler and then remove.. crack off the brake pipes and remove them.. and the remove slave cylinder.. and then theres 4x 13mm bolts holding the servo on accesible via the inside of the bulk head are these relatively easy to get to with the dash out ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 March 2011, 23:13
Yeah - they're just on the bulkhead, around the pedal box.

Getting the servo away from the corner is a PITA and I seem to recall getting it back isn't much fun.  If you can, you want to do it with the engine and gearbox out.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 09 March 2011, 23:14
oh ok will do mate cheers.. i didnt think it was going to be easy lol... just really needs sprucing up as looks like its took some battering over the years..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 12 March 2011, 14:48
Right well its been a good day so far.. my new socket and adaptor turned up this morning.. and as i thought my longer breaker bar freed the nut up no problem.. so really happy i didnt have to split the nut or such..  :smiley:

Then i went about taking the driveshafts out which was actually easier than i thought... I just undone all the spline bolts and undone the ball joint from the wishbone and move the strut out the way and slid the shafts out they will be cleaned up painted and new gaitors fitted... Only problem is the last 3 MOT's its had its had new gaitors fitted so they seem to be wearing out fast would this be due to it being lowered on bilstein shocks and springs ?? if so can i raist the engine up a tad or will the inlet foul the bonnet ??

i then lowered the subframe and removed the engine which was a real pain in the arse as i couldnt get enough room really to undo exhaust manifold bolts but it was much easier once subframe lowered.. i just moved the engine forward and that gave me enough room to undo the bolts...

Next up i need to try and remove the servo and once thats removed i can remove all my wiring loom ready to send off to RubJonny for splicing..


So to sum today up im really happy so far and will upload some pics later on today hopefully  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Bellend on 12 March 2011, 15:14
Good work.  :smiley:

I found out yesterday that VW hub nuts are rediculously tight. The best way is at a solid 90 degree angle, have a massive bar that is 45 degrees and it wants to round, 90 degree adapter and a bar, job done. :afro:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 12 March 2011, 15:27
So was i mate the threads and that werent even rusty or corroded just bloody tight lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Bellend on 12 March 2011, 15:31
I know, I lifted the car off the very pooly placed jack.  :grin:

It's a scraper tho, so no that bothered.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 12 March 2011, 18:17
Well made even more progress from earlier  :smiley: :smiley: I managed to remove the fiddly brake servo so that will be painted in the coming weeks.. also removed all the loom from the engine bay just got to wort the interior bit and that can be sent off to RubJonny..

Well anyway here are some pics for anyone if they interested..

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The fiddly clip holding brake pedal to servo for other peoples referance

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The space it left behind

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My collection of breaker bars inc the daddy snap-on ratchet bar that shifted the hub nut !!

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All the loom from the bay !

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Always been told to organise all nuts and bolts for future referance so i did  :smiley:

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How it looked at end of the day

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(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0395.jpg)

Thanks for looking more updates to come sooon
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 21:52
Right ive decided im gona strip the underside and engine bay back to bare metal and go from there...

With the engine bay i have a colour in mind that should turn some heads  :smiley: But what primers going to be best for me to paint the engine bay for longevity i need brush on preferably as im going to do underside and cans would be useless ??

Ive head people talk about red oxide primer ?? also some companies like plastikote and hammerite sell stuff but its not cheap thats for sure  :grin: :grin:

Ive also bought a wire brush for my drill and a flap wheel for my grinder get all rid of this surface rust finally  :smiley: :smiley:

Any advice would be great !!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 22:49
Am thinking a 5lt tin of this stuff

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Red-Oxide-Primer-Paint-Metal-5-Litres-/180570264581?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&hash=item2a0ad39405#ht_532wt_698


Will it need thinning to be applied by brush ??

Also im thinking of these to be used in the engine bay ??

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-X-500-ML-SIMONIZ-RED-OXIDE-PRIMER-SPRAY-PAINT-/310172997026?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item4837c055a2#ht_2230wt_754
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 13 March 2011, 23:03
Good work mate, will defo be keeping an eye on this as it progresses. Will be doing mine in the next few weeks.

Maybe of interest as you get whole chassis packs and they use that stuff to protect oil rigs out in the North Sea. You can paint it on or spray it.
http://www.rust.co.uk/epoxy-mastic.cfm

Where did you get your spline tool from and breaker bar?



Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 23:08
I bought the spline tool off ebay it was a longer reach one and cost me all of £4 something  :smiley: the breaker bars i inherited from my dad luckily as they pretty expensive  :smiley:

Thanks for the link will have a looky as i dont wana find rust in 2 years time !!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 13 March 2011, 23:25
Yeah, if it's a keeper then it worth doing once and doing right :cool:

I just wondered if you'd found some way of getting cheap Snap on tools :grin:

Learned the hard way with multi hex sockets, not even worth buying imo.
Got to get me a bigger breaker bar though. I also highly recommend GT85 penetrating fluid, and it smells nice too...

Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 13 March 2011, 23:28
I already have some  :smiley:

I have step down 3/4 to 1/2inch for the big breaker bar and i cant see anything it wouldnt undo  :smiley:

Gonna order me primer and some other paint hopefully end of the week.. Also need to find a welder  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Diamond Hell on 14 March 2011, 13:32
I also highly recommend GT85 penetrating fluid, and it smells nice too...

Pish and tish - GT85 is shyte.  PlusGas all the way, or any genuine penetrating fluid over 'maintenance' sprays.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 14 March 2011, 16:43
what penetrating fluid do you rate then DH ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Bellend on 14 March 2011, 18:00
I also highly recommend GT85 penetrating fluid, and it smells nice too...

Pish and tish - GT85 is shyte.  PlusGas all the way, or any genuine penetrating fluid over 'maintenance' sprays.

 :huh:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Andy P on 15 March 2011, 18:17
You've gone balls deep with this, fair play mate  :cool:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 15 March 2011, 18:23
Yer i bloody have lol thing is as its my second car i find it much easier to work on as i dont have to rush anything and so far the shell has proved to be pretty solid and should only need a little welding in the end..  should have bay done in a couple of weeks need money for paint though  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Andy P on 15 March 2011, 18:54
My Mk2 is a weekend car too, its far easier when its that way. Ive waited YEARS to be in this situation  :laugh:

Are you buying a complete ABF Mk3 to swap it all over?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 15 March 2011, 19:00
I already have my mk3 ABF sitting here just want to change all the belts and waterpump etc before i fit it.. I have both looms out and waiting for money to send them off to be spliced..

whats happening with yours ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Andy P on 15 March 2011, 19:14
Cool, so all the big money spending is done. Id like to drive a ABF'd Mk2. Nice spread of power  :smiley:

Mine? Not much mate. Just had the bumpers retextured, ive got a linkage bush kit to replace, i need to fit membrane on the doors and replace with window rubbers all round. Thats on my to-do list at the minute  :grin:

Im picking up my RM lips from the polishers this weekend then ill book the centres in for powdercoating.

Hopefully it should all come together at once :cool:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 15 March 2011, 20:28
Sounds really nice mate... one of my bumper brackets are broken and im not sure whether it will be just as strong if its plastic welded or should i get another ?? how did you find your bumpers looked after texturing any pics ??

The big spending on my car is going to be the paint.. it needs a full respray including shuts and i wana remove windows.. my cars suffered from really bad lacquer peel..

Where you get your rubbers from ?? i need two doors rubbers and new window rubbers all round for after the respray  :smiley:

I cant wait for it to start taking shape and stop looking so sorry for itself lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Andy P on 15 March 2011, 21:06
No updated pics mate. The bumpers came up well. Only problem is that they are vulnerable to stone chips I suppose. I've bought the rubbers 2nd hand. But BBT do new ones but they are £50 each I think. So I'll see how it goes....

One of my brackets are held together with screws  :embarassed: but If I were going for a restoration I'd get new IMO. I think plastic weld would be ok though.

When you swapping it over?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 15 March 2011, 21:12
yer think i might just get one from BBT as they're stuff seems really good..

Ermm when i get paid end of this month should be able to buy the belts and waterpump etc.. and as soon as the engine bay is done it will be fitted..

Im not in no rush to be honest just wana get it in and running then everything else can be done in due time.. will be pics as and when i complete stuff
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 16 March 2011, 12:49
I also highly recommend GT85 penetrating fluid, and it smells nice too...

Pish and tish - GT85 is shyte.  PlusGas all the way, or any genuine penetrating fluid over 'maintenance' sprays.

Ok, my uncle was talking about this previously but I was unable to source it hence ending up with GT85, which is not too bad imo. found plusgas online but they want 12.00 for 400ml, any suggestions where to get some from? Tried all my local motofactors but nothing so far.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 16 March 2011, 14:35
why is plusgas so highly rated ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 16 March 2011, 16:04
Because it's a dedicated dismantling fluid rather than an all round moisture remover and lubricant.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 16 March 2011, 17:36
Well i havent needed it yet so the stuff i have will have to do for now  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 17 March 2011, 17:23
Well i havent needed it yet so the stuff i have will have to do for now  :smiley:

Fingers crossed it stays that way :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 17 March 2011, 22:26
yer knowing my luck will find every bolt from now on will be seized lol..

Havent done nothing for a few days as girlfriends grandad on his last legs so dont wana take the piss... but it isnt forgotten  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 19 March 2011, 11:22
Well this morning I bought a halfords 3 layer breathable car cover.. Fitted and it's really good can't fault the fitting..

Also how found a place to do the underseal and full waxoyl of the car.. Been quoted £480 Inc vat.. With a 5 year warranty  :cool: this will all be done once the car all welded and up and running.

www.rustmaster.co.uk  check it out their work looks amazing..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 19 March 2011, 12:03
Sending my wiring loom off soon to rubjonny.. but im only query is do i need to get the immob deleted from the mk3 ecu ?? if so where can i get that done ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Diamond Hell on 19 March 2011, 19:25
Keep it, with the chip in the key and the ring around the ignition barrel.

That way no one can drive it off when you're there and you can tell your insurer that you have an OEM immobiliser.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 19 March 2011, 19:50
I dont have the key or ring no more mate as didnt have time to remove the ring befopre getting the mk3 scrapped..  is there anywhere that does immob delete that you know mate ??

Or would it be easier to just buy ECU.. keys and ring off someone breaking a 16v ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 20 March 2011, 19:46
Anyone advice on immobiliser ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Diamond Hell on 20 March 2011, 20:06
These guys have just done one for a project down here:

http://ecudecode.go-ecommerce.com/shopping/mall/ecudecode/Homepage/
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 20 March 2011, 20:30
Thanks mate will give them a call tomo.. doesnt seem to expensive either..

Once the car is finished it will have a cat1 alarm fitted..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 21 March 2011, 21:49
Well a good friend of mine who is also a dub fanatic and a mechanic has just rebuilt a ABF for his mk2... then bought a mk2 with a 4.2 v8 RWD.. So he now has his ABF up for sale for a cheap price.. Going to have a look at it tomorrow to check it over and see what kind of price he after.. If it a good price will buy it and just sell my other ABF as this one is ready to rock and roll just need my wiring looms done..

its had this done so far jsut need building up..

Skimmed and pressure tested head
New oil stem seals
recut valve heads
new timing chain and timing adjuster
Crank been recut and polished
new main bearings
conrod bearings
new piston rings
new bottom feed oil jackets

Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Diamond Hell on 22 March 2011, 07:44
You already have a motor that you know runs and is comfortably bedded down.

I wouldn't muck about buying a box of bits, if I were you.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 24 March 2011, 22:05
Right well this is still moving on... slowly lol..

Sent the wiring looms all off today to get spliced so should have them back in 2-3 weeks...

Still havent decided whether to buy the engine off my mechanic or do mine not sure if i have the time..

Engine bay is half stripped of paint and such will probably spend some time on it over the weekend
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 26 March 2011, 12:38
Right well my wallet is much much lighter after today.. I've bought a fully rebuilt abf at a price I couldnt say no to.. I also now have a abf box with a longer 4th and 5th the box has been fully rebuilt with all new seals etc.. Is still going to run cable clutch.. Going to get help fitting mk3 shifter linkages etc.. The engine has new oil and waterpump as well.. Also it has a transporter power steering pump which should be better and more reliable.. Also loads of other bits and bobs my mate has lying around like new clutch cable.. Bigger brake adaptors..

All I need to get is mk3 linkage stuff it has turret fitted to box..

I am a very happy boy  :smiley: pick the engine up end of next week  :evil:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 27 March 2011, 23:28
Right well my wallet is much much lighter after today.. I've bought a fully rebuilt abf at a price I couldnt say no to.. I also now have a abf box with a longer 4th and 5th the box has been fully rebuilt with all new seals etc.. Is still going to run cable clutch.. Going to get help fitting mk3 shifter linkages etc.. The engine has new oil and waterpump as well.. Also it has a transporter power steering pump which should be better and more reliable.. Also loads of other bits and bobs my mate has lying around like new clutch cable.. Bigger brake adaptors..

All I need to get is mk3 linkage stuff it has turret fitted to box..

I am a very happy boy  :smiley: pick the engine up end of next week  :evil:

Nice wee haul there by the sounds of things.  :cool:
I'll watch with interest how you get on with the g/box side of things. I'm running mine on rod change for time being. I fitted 280mm brakes, aside from getting the old ones off and snapping a bleed nipple it was doddle :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 28 March 2011, 00:01
Cheers mate im going to run cable clutch still as well is that what you still running ??

Whats the smallest wheels 280's sit behind ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 28 March 2011, 15:18
You can squeeze 15s on 280s with a few mm spare but this depends on the wheel and it's offset.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Wayne on 28 March 2011, 16:08

Whats the smallest wheels 280's sit behind ??

15"s GTI / VR mk3 had 280 or 288mm with 15" wheels all ok.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 28 March 2011, 21:36
will 15" bbs rm fit ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 29 March 2011, 21:10
pick my new engine and gearbox up saturday  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Rhyso on 29 March 2011, 21:14
pick my new engine and gearbox up saturday  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Sweet!  :smiley:

You bringing this to Volksfest?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 29 March 2011, 21:19
Well i sat in bed last night and thought.. If i can get the engine in and running well and i can get my rust welded and protected then it has MOT till September so theres no reason why i cant just change insurance over for a month and take this to Volksfest and my Rtech RR day it wont be the prettiest but then i can get a chavvy sticker saying 'Ongoing Project'  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 29 March 2011, 23:40
Well i sat in bed last night and thought.. If i can get the engine in and running well and i can get my rust welded and protected then it has MOT till September so theres no reason why i cant just change insurance over for a month and take this to Volksfest and my Rtech RR day it wont be the prettiest but then i can get a chavvy sticker saying 'Ongoing Project'  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Go on my son, get it did  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Wayne on 29 March 2011, 23:48
will 15" bbs rm fit ??

Should do yes. :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 01 April 2011, 01:57
picked my freshly built gearbox up this evening  :smiley: all i need is a clutch release fork and clutch release bearing as i got given a vr6 brand new clutch and pressure plate for free  :smiley:

The engine has been fully built up now.. heads on with new cambelt and tensioner.. All i need to do is bolt my accesories on with a new waterpump etc and its good to go  :smiley: also does anyone have part numbers for brand new gearbox bolts as dont wana use old ones ??

Finally settled on engine bay colour so going to order that next week and will get cracking on that..

A friend has kindly said i can use his garage in about a month FOC.. he is going to do my welding for me  :smiley: going to fabricate up new brake lines  :smiley: will get bigger brakes on the front G60 280's probably.. will change all the bushes and all that why its there as well as i have all the tools and someone to help lol

pics below of whats in his garage at the mo.. his 'little' project  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 01 April 2011, 02:04
this is a mk2 golf Van with a 4.2 litre turbocharged V8 from a RS4.. rear wheel drive.. running on standard clocks etc and cable throttle with a VR6 throttle body.. TD07 turbocharger which will make anyone that likes cars goo 'ohhh i like that'... Oh and the engine is in the back  :grin: :grin:

pics are sh!t sorry but took quickly on my phone..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0415.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0413.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0414.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0411.jpg)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 01 April 2011, 02:11
Also received a set of VDO gauges courtesy of a friend FOC im having fun  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 01 April 2011, 12:43
Boo, can't see photo's at work....

Sounds a bit fruity though.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 03 April 2011, 21:14
Well the engine is at mine now i painted the block up today and started moving all the ancillaries over.. i cleaned up the waterpump from old engine it seems in good nick..

Does anyone have the part numbers for the 2 O-Rings that are on the waterpump ??

Going well though should be pretty built up tomorrow as im off work..

Will upload some pics when there is decent visual progress lol  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 05 April 2011, 22:15
Just ordered all my paint for the engine bay.. Kawasaki lime green here i come..

Also need to get to the dealers this week to order some new o-rings for the water pump and vacum assy thing on the engine..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 April 2011, 22:26
Just ordered all my paint for the engine bay.. Kawasaki lime green here i come..

Also need to get to the dealers this week to order some new o-rings for the water pump and vacum assy thing on the engine..
:grin:  :cool:

I painted my first ever mk1 in that on the outside!  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 05 April 2011, 22:31
Just the bay for me lol.. who knows may paint it something lary in the future or just wrap it...

have been thinking about the colour for a while but when i think the engine is in etc you wont get to really see much of the paint as the ABF covers a lot of engine bay.. hey ho nevermind lol

Cant wait to get cracking on the car.. when weather permits lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 April 2011, 22:57
Ah excuses, I was doing mine right through Christmas!  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 06 April 2011, 13:26
Kawasaki lime green, sorry dude but imo  :sick:

Looks good on kawasaki's, but that's about it. :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 10 April 2011, 20:35
We shall see if i think its crap will just respray it..

Havent done much the past week except order bits at VW for engine like o-rings etc.. Engine should be all back together in a few weeks..

Need to get this bloody bay done..

Need some seam sealant.. read very highly about Sikaflex but not sure which one anyone got any ideas ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 10 April 2011, 23:11

Need some seam sealant.. read very highly about Sikaflex but not sure which one anyone got any ideas ??

Tigerseal is exactly the same stuff, literally, but half the price. It's the stuff they use in commercial body shops and Sikaflex is what they sell out of Halfords style places. I buy out of a place called Brown Bros. HTH's.

You going for a smoothed bay? I fancy having a pop at one but think I'd not go fully smoothed, just "cleaned". :smiley:

Doesn't make it go any faster but is so much nicer and easier to work on.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 April 2011, 08:13
Cheers for that.. Can tigerseal be sanded and painted ??

Yer fancy just cleaning it up a smoothed bay is a lot of work and I don't have welding stuff to hand at the moment but might have in the future who knows..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Wayne on 11 April 2011, 09:25

Yer fancy just cleaning it up a smoothed bay is a lot of work and I don't have welding stuff to hand at the moment but might have in the future who knows..

Something like this would be better: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1KG-Grey-Brushable-Seam-Sealer-Waterproof-Paintable-/330430563020?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item4cef3242cc
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 April 2011, 10:35
Yer have that in my watch list already but wasn't sure if it was sandable as it doesn't say on the ad..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Wayne on 11 April 2011, 10:36
Yer have that in my watch list already but wasn't sure if it was sandable as it doesn't say on the ad..

It should be, most seam sealers are.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 11 April 2011, 11:36
I'll be honest I've never tried to rub tigerseal down. Reason being is that I use it where the OEM sealer went, smooth it down whilst it's still wet, let it dry and then paint over it.

Other stuff looks good, depends what you need it for.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 April 2011, 16:26
Well on my engine bay they have pretty much just smothered it everywhere.. i would prefer just to place a bead in the seams so it makes the bay look smoother.. Am just gona get some tigerseal and see how it goes..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 11 April 2011, 17:43
I was looking into sealer and recommendations also came forward for Tiger seal. Wanted to seal the arches to stop water getting trapped behind the body kit but then I had second thoughts as I want to be able to get it off easily.

If you get some, let us know how you get on with it.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 April 2011, 18:13
Will do bud..  :cool:

Edit.. Now have 2 tubes on order and a tub of chemical metal here as i love the stuff..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 18 April 2011, 12:12
Well my tigerseal is here but ive decided that im gona go in a different direction with the bay and try and give it a little smooth and a tummy tuck.. Been looking at MIG welders recently and reading on mig welding forum and think im gona buy a Clarke mig welder which can do gas and gasless welding..

Watch this space it may fail miserably lol  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 18 April 2011, 12:25
Well my tigerseal is here but ive decided that im gona go in a different direction with the bay and try and give it a little smooth and a tummy tuck..

 :grin:

I knew that would happen. I highly recommend the one i've been using Clarke 150TE Turbo weld. More than capable of blowing holes in most metal :smiley:
I also highly recommend an auto darkening mask. Sif one I got is very comfy. Oh and gloves/ gauntlets. And decent set of clamps/ magnets are worth their weight in platinum.

Look forward to pic's. I'm doing the bay in mine in a few weeks(ish)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 18 April 2011, 14:08
Well we will just see how it goes I dont hold high hopes..  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 24 April 2011, 20:10
http://www.weldequip.com/clarke-130en.htm

Have this on order.. Need to get some gas wheres cheapest and whats best argon and c02 mix ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 24 April 2011, 20:37
http://www.weldequip.com/clarke-130en.htm

Have this on order.. Need to get some gas wheres cheapest and whats best argon and c02 mix ??

Cleaner welds with C02 argon mix. Danny p was suggesting somewhere you can get mail order bottles but the name of the place escapes me at the mo. Or you can hire them.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 24 April 2011, 20:38
how much you think for a deposit and full bottle ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 24 April 2011, 20:39
how much you think for a deposit and full bottle ??

Not a scooby. You'd need to phone about mate.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 24 April 2011, 20:42
Alright mate cheers.. My mrs dad welds for a living so i will ask him where to get a bottle and fill it up  :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 24 April 2011, 20:43
Alright mate cheers.. My mrs dad welds for a living so i will ask him where to get a bottle and fill it up  :wink:

Sounds like an excellent plan :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 24 April 2011, 20:47
What width steel do you recommend 1mm.. 1.5mm ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 24 April 2011, 23:25
What width steel do you recommend 1mm.. 1.5mm ??

1.5mm would be slightly less likely to blow holes in. You'll get a feel for it, just tack, move to opposite side tack. Keep the amp's high enough to get decent penetration and wire feed reasonably high (5-6) on my welder for tacking. As I say you get it as you experiment.

Top tip, wear gloves, boiler suit/decent boots (not trainers like I did). Weld splatter is hot.

Thus avoiding the sweet smell of cooking your own flesh. :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 25 April 2011, 01:39
Cheers for the advice mate gona wait for the bank to cool down before i buy more stuff.. wana get the cambelt and service done on the leon first that like £400 lol...
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 28 April 2011, 20:22
Well received my welder today thought i would have a dabble.. bloody hell its addictive.. im sh!t at the mo but gona go fabricators and get some off cuts to practice on.. and then the bay gets attacked  :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 28 April 2011, 22:21
It's even better if you have some AC/DC blasting in the background too :smiley:

I got a quite a good welding video. Worth watching for the dudes 'tash and denim shirt alone but he does seem to know what he is doing. Good stuff if you've never done it before and get more from your practice. Can PM you the link if you want?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 29 April 2011, 09:34
The one with 'miss Karen' lol seen it  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 16:31
Well not posted for a while as been collecting bits and bobs so i can move on without sending the car to a garage..

Mig welder - Check
Gauntlets - Check
Auto darkening welding mask - Check
2.5m by 1.3m sheet of 1mm thick steel - check
set of welding clamps - Check

That should be all i need to get the bay welded up and any other parts of the car that should need attention.. I also bought a set of 3 VDO gauges as they came up at a good price compared to ebay prices..

So not really much of an update.. but hopefully some pics in the next few weeks as the welding starts and the bay begins to transform  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Toby on 16 May 2011, 16:44
lookin forward to sein your ' skillz'  :laugh: :evil:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 16 May 2011, 16:49
lookin forward to sein your ' skillz'  :laugh: :evil:

Same here, this should be interesting. Have you done any welding before?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 16 May 2011, 16:58
Nope but as said before the other halfs dad is a welder by profession and ive done some practice.. I will be spot welding it all in place first of all anyways and then running a seam after.. iff it goes wrong i will start again.. nice to see people have faith  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 05 June 2011, 21:41
Well been buying loads of bits and bobs recently.. finding it hard to put the hours in on it.. ive had to move away from smoothing the bay as i just dont get the time.. i have bought a battery tray repair panel from BBT.. going to weld that in.. finishing rubbing down the bay and re-doing all the sealant stuff.. maybe after the car is roadworthy i will think about getting the bay smoothed and such..

Also ordered what i thought was a really good buy.. a full bolt kit for the car.. not genuine but some stainless parts etc will see when it arrives but this is what was included for about £60..

Wing and front slam panel bolts
front shock bolts
polished door and boot latch bolts
polished steering wheel bolts
polished bonnet latch bolts
bonnet hinge bolts
door hinge bolts
polished petrol flap screws
polished door handle screw
battery clamp bolt
gearbox and engine mount bolts
inlet manifold bolts
throttle body or carburettor bolts
rear plinth screw
door to chassis bolts
rocker cover bolts
front and rear bumper mounting bolts
wiper motor bolts
door card and dash screws
bolts for other brackets and mounts
brake caliper bolts
brake dust cover bolts
petrol tank strap bolts
petrol pump bolts
couple of bigger bolts for the rear beam

also comes with
2 pairs of latex gloves
Rivet set for all the arches
1 roll of flame retardent tape for any looms you may wish to tidy up

Also have on order from BBT a pair of bonnet lifters as i hate the standard pole type thing lol..

And last but not least i have some stainless steel lower bonnet catch bolts.. going to buy a new lower catch aswell  :smiley:

So progress is still happening just slower than i thought  :grin: :grin:

Oh yer my loom is in the post to me  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 05 June 2011, 22:12
Just ordered a New Sachs VR6 clutch kit from vwspares should be here in a few days.. then engine and gearbox can be bolted together..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 06 June 2011, 17:47
Just ordered a New Sachs VR6 clutch kit from vwspares

I've heard this being done before but what exactly does it achieve? Is it a higher clamp force because the VR is a higher OEM output?

Good progress, I've got buy a heap of bolts and stuff for mine too.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 06 June 2011, 22:14
Im not 100% sure mate but i know they can take well over 200bhp as they used as upgrade for the 1.8T... I could have got an OEM replacement for about £80 but this only cost like £115 from VWSpares and it means if i decide to upgrade the engine at a later date i know the clutch will be fine if that makes sense.. Apparently it affects the clutch pedal and makes it better but i dont really know..

might be better if i was running hydro clutch aswell but for the moment im going to run cable on the o2a (?) box as its just easier for me till i get the car all up and running and can just tinker with things like the hydro clutch..

well i still waiting for the bolt set to arrive when it arrives i will post a couple of pics to show people what they like..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 07 June 2011, 10:50
My car had all the lines and such for the abf box, I just needed the box but am going to wait aswell til I want a slightly longer ratio box. Good work so far btw
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 07 June 2011, 11:27
Thanks, I need to buy the shifter and cables but going to wait at the moment till I'm closer to that stage.. How hard was it to fit the abf shifter to the mk2 ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 07 June 2011, 11:30
You need to weld some extra tabs on the abf shifter and drill the holes so it fits into the mk2. Abart from that I think it goes straight in. All my pedal box, selectors and stuff is just sat in the garage til I find a box. You've also gotta make the holes in your builkhead for the clutch servo thing. (Its early so please exuse my poor descriptions)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 07 June 2011, 11:35
Well I'm gona run cable clutch for a while as have brand new cable here.. will convert over time it will be fine for me just not the neatest.. Does it matter 8v or 16v shifter ?? Will grab one from scrappy or eBay..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 07 June 2011, 11:43
Mines 16v didn't think they did an 8v with that setup
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 07 June 2011, 12:26
G/ box that comes with ABF is usually coded CDA (longer ratio cable change)
G/ box that comes with KR is usually coded 2Y (short ratio rod change)

I'm in process of sourcing bits for my hydro setup. I'm expecting it to be a pain in the tits but will be a better setup all together. Have been told that mk4 cable change setups fit better than the mk3 setups(?) will need to investigate this though.

Pretty sure the VR' clutch has a thicker spring/ better clamping force. Stops slippage improves the drive as nothing kills performance like a slippy clutch.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 07 June 2011, 15:35
I will get some pictures of part numbers so people can tell me 100% what box i have then.. I know its a mk3 box with a longer 4th and 5th for cruising but not 100% sure..

Clutch arrived today.. will try and fit the weekend  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 07 June 2011, 15:40
Just ordered a brand new twin light grill with red pin stripe Genuine.. off ebay £62  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 07 June 2011, 21:08
http://boneybradley.webs.com/thegearboxes.htm

 :wink:

Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 07 June 2011, 21:20
Cheers mate..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 09 June 2011, 12:02
Right just a quick query about exhaust.. what should i use ?? stainless steel jobby ?? standard manifold ?? Can i use standard downpipe from the mk3 or will i need the mk2 one ?? will whatever mk2/3 downpipe bolt straight to my mk2 stainless exhaust ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 09 June 2011, 15:18
What diametre is ur exhaust?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 09 June 2011, 17:29
Good point I think it's standard mid section and stainless back section but would have to check
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 09 June 2011, 17:39
2inch 16 is 2 1/4. My mate used mk2 mani  on his abf
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 10 June 2011, 00:22
i think i will try and go stainless manifold and downpipe and run a custom 2.5" exhaust after that maybe free up some ponies lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 10 June 2011, 11:13
Ahhh, av got 2 1/4 all the way through mine, but it was made to keep back pressure the same, and av got a 4-1 mani
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 10 June 2011, 11:34
Where you get 4-1 mani from mate ??

What you recon then 2 1/4 or 2 1/2 ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 10 June 2011, 12:07
Cam with my doner but it is a magnatec mani and exhaust, get them from ebay though. Well my mates abf'd mk2 had 2 1/2 and my kr has 2 1/4 and my kr was better than his abf, were running about the same bhp but I just seemed to have a little more poke
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 10 June 2011, 12:16
I think i will stick with you on a 2 1/4 system then.. cheers for the help..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 10 June 2011, 16:54
Tis alright mate. I look forward to completion
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 10 June 2011, 20:04
So do i mate im just trying to sort so much stuff out for it at the moment.. a friend of mine is a sprayer so hopefully i am going to speak to him the weekend to see when and how much to finish off the engine bay and paint it all up.. then after the engine bay done i can start buying more stuff.. after the engine bay done i might just tart it up and put it through its MOT then atleast i know i can drive it should i need to..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 10 June 2011, 22:27
It should be a little peach mate
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 June 2011, 00:47
It should be a little peach mate

Well spoke to my mate tonight and he has quoted me £200 for welding in battery repair panel and spraying the bay depending on how much prep is needed.. which i think is a very good price  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 11 June 2011, 02:21
Not too bad. Ad do it my self just cos I always have spare time. U off mk3 brakes or keepin mk2?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 June 2011, 11:45
Not too bad. Ad do it my self just cos I always have spare time. U off mk3 brakes or keepin mk2?

Well theres another problem lol.. i wana keep 4 stud but with 5 stud i can have bigger brakes.. the G60 is 4 stuf though isnt it ?? but then i need g60 hubs.. carriers and callipers no ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 11 June 2011, 11:50
Am not too sure, am on 288 5stud but I feel upgrading to 312 tt brakes will happen soon just cos there overly big on a mk2. I think you would need full g60 huib assembally, but that would be easier from a carrado. Ask mr monday as he had em on the wagon.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 June 2011, 11:51
what wheels you running to accept 312mm brakes ??

I know mr monday offered them to me at a good price i was just skint  :sad:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 11 June 2011, 11:54
I'll be getting some 16's just gotta grind the caliper down so they fit. One of my mates got them on his anni.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 June 2011, 12:20
I know is not the norm but do you tihnk brembo callipers would be good ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 11 June 2011, 13:42
I like the thinking. Brembos are good. I want some 4pot callipers eventually
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 June 2011, 14:18
Well i was just reading on clubgti and a thread from last year on here.. I just think they look good compared to the 1pot calipers.. They should in theory have better braking.. better choice of pads.. could run a 305mm disc like the ibiza cupra.. Just think it may be a viable option as buying all the G60 hubs and discs pads etc is going to set me back atleast £200
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 11 June 2011, 17:27
Well that would be a better optin, if its cheaper to get and a better option, start buying the parts
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 11 June 2011, 19:07
You could buy a brand new set of 280mm calipers and carriers etc for £200.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 11 June 2011, 22:51
You could buy a brand new set of 280mm calipers and carriers etc for £200.  :lipsrsealed:

Where from mate I'm not sure what I need ?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:58
ill have my 280 set up for sale some time soon....
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 12 June 2011, 10:26
ill have my 280 set up for sale some time soon....

Can I have first dibs kells if the price is right ?? Pm me a rough price
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 13 June 2011, 12:20
Right well been having a think and come across a bit thats going to niggle me.. do i have to fun the factory breeather system as i think it looks messy and i dont have any of the hoses for it ?? cant i just run a catch can or blank it off ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: F17BAD on 13 June 2011, 12:32
ill have my 280 set up for sale some time soon....

Can I have first dibs kells if the price is right ?? Pm me a rough price

yes mate sure, not sure on prices but i wont want much, discs are quite new, they are mintex discs.. ill let you know mate anyhow
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Wayne on 13 June 2011, 13:57
Right well been having a think and come across a bit thats going to niggle me.. do i have to fun the factory breeather system as i think it looks messy and i dont have any of the hoses for it ?? cant i just run a catch can or blank it off ??

Yep just vent it to a catch can.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 13 June 2011, 15:37
Cheers mate  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 27 June 2011, 21:45
Right just a little update and progress..

Had some time on my hands today so got some more of the bay done..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0487.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0485.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0486.jpg)

All fitted just needs final fettling and then spot welding in place and painting   :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 27 June 2011, 21:47
Here are a few bits ive bought over the past month much to my other halfs annoyance 

I bought this off a seller on ebay.. 100% genuine.. 100% brand new and mint.. not sure theres many about any more..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0488.jpg)

Next i bought these little beauties.. i got them at a very good price compared to ebay prices.. they all minty mint from an audi 80 i believe.. all i need is a new frame to mount them in..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0490.jpg)

As per one of my earlier posts i wanted a VR6 clutch so as if i go bit power in the future i dont need to change the clutch.. so i went online and bought a new sachs 3in1 kit.. just need new flywheel bolts and clutch bolts..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0491.jpg)

and last but not least im fed up with having to open my bonnet and use a stand to keep it up.. so when i ordered my battery tray repair panel from VWH20 i bought a 'hood lift' kit.. made by FK seem good quality.. they going to be matt or gloss black before fitting..


(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0492.jpg)
(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0493.jpg)

 Stay tuned more to come over the coming weeks !!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 27 June 2011, 22:17
Goof selection of parts there mate.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 27 June 2011, 22:38
Goof selection of parts there mate.

cheers mate im definitely running out of space.. going to order my engine mounts this week hopefully.. what mounts you running and where from ??

Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 28 June 2011, 07:55
Am running mk3 rear mount and a modified mk2 front mount that's now solid. Pm me and I will explain how the front mounts done
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 09:18
Great project mate  :cool:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 10:28
Great project mate  :cool:

Cheers mate hopefully it will be finished and look like yours one day  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 12:44
Great project mate  :cool:

Cheers mate hopefully it will be finished and look like yours one day  :smiley:

keep up the good work  :wink:

bought my GTI in not such a great shape for 700 quid nearly 5 years ago - its now been valued at 7.5k by the insurance and iv done all the work myself.. so it can be done  :cool:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 29 June 2011, 23:19
Fantastic. Battery tray looks neat :cool:

Goodies goodies goodies. Liking the dials too, always fancied a set in the place of where the radio goes. Need to get myself down the scrappies to rob an Audi. Hope you got the loom and senders too.

Be interested to see how you tackle the hydro conversion. I blow hot and cold on the idea but I'm on a major budget just now so thinking I'll stash my CDA 'box away for a bit.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 29 June 2011, 23:31
im still going to run a cable clutch  :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 30 June 2011, 12:38
im still going to run a cable clutch  :wink:

And use the SEAT adaptor doda? I've heard mixed reviews about them and how difficult they are to source, but that may well just be general nay saying as per usual. So I'll be even more interested to see how you tackle this problem :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 30 June 2011, 12:46
yer apparantly i need to go to SEAT get the cable guide? and i need another part then the gear box is finished as i have a new clutch cable..

At the end of the day if it works it will be cheaper than the mk3 setup and easier to replace parts  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: spacerat on 01 July 2011, 15:36
dude, just felt like checking up on my old car, couldnt be arsed to look through all 17 pages of this thread just yet, but what your doing looks good.when u come to sell it at some point in your life, please find me and give me first dibs. your doing the work to the car that planned to do from day one but with a lot more motivation. i hope to catch u at a show with this car in the near future
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 15:38
Do you still need 280 break set up mate?

if so make me a offer i might have mine for sale

Discs are recent Mintex and so are the pads (done last year about 6k miles)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 01 July 2011, 16:33
dude, just felt like checking up on my old car, couldnt be arsed to look through all 17 pages of this thread just yet, but what your doing looks good.when u come to sell it at some point in your life, please find me and give me first dibs. your doing the work to the car that planned to do from day one but with a lot more motivation. i hope to catch u at a show with this car in the near future

Cheers mate good to see your still keeping updated with it !
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 01 July 2011, 16:33
Do you still need 280 break set up mate?

if so make me a offer i might have mine for sale

Discs are recent Mintex and so are the pads (done last year about 6k miles)

Pm me a roughy price mate as I don't want to offend with a crap offer.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 14 July 2011, 17:43
spent a few hours on the car today.. managed to tiger seal the bay where i wanted to.. going to let that cure tonight and give the bay hopefully a coat of primer tomo.. then i can finally say im moving in the right direction  :laugh:

p.s. tiger seal is great stuff but sh!t to get off your hands after !
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 15 July 2011, 00:16
spent a few hours on the car today.. managed to tiger seal the bay where i wanted to.. going to let that cure tonight and give the bay hopefully a coat of primer tomo.. then i can finally say im moving in the right direction  :laugh:

p.s. tiger seal is great stuff but sh!t to get off your hands after !

Key is not to get it there in the first place :grin: Nitrile gloves or failing that, thinners will get the worst of it off.

Good work so far, I have part numbers if you want for the SEAT clutch actuator etc?


Needs some update pic's dude.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 15 July 2011, 06:41
Yer would love them please mate..

Will post pics soon mate
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 17 July 2011, 13:33
engine bay has a coat of primer.. subframe has been wire brushed and has first coat of hammerite.. then was rained off  :angry: hopefully do some more tomorrow if weather holds up  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 17 July 2011, 23:31
Yer would love them please mate..

Will post pics soon mate

PM'd you bud :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 July 2011, 09:50
engine bay has a coat of primer.. subframe has been wire brushed and has first coat of hammerite.. then was rained off  :angry: hopefully do some more tomorrow if weather holds up  :smiley:

 :cool:  I expect to see pictures soon...

The weather put me in a mood yesterday!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 18 July 2011, 10:18
engine bay has a coat of primer.. subframe has been wire brushed and has first coat of hammerite.. then was rained off  :angry: hopefully do some more tomorrow if weather holds up  :smiley:

 :cool:  I expect to see pictures soon...

The weather put me in a mood yesterday!

Pics today hopefully if weather holds off.. I had enough of this rain already  :angry:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 July 2011, 10:20
engine bay has a coat of primer.. subframe has been wire brushed and has first coat of hammerite.. then was rained off  :angry: hopefully do some more tomorrow if weather holds up  :smiley:

 :cool:  I expect to see pictures soon...

The weather put me in a mood yesterday!

Yeah it really needs to fook off as I need to pic up my pace again!

Pics today hopefully if weather holds off.. I had enough of this rain already  :angry:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 18 July 2011, 10:41
Your doing well with the bonnets mate  :smiley: your better at uploading pics than me lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 July 2011, 11:22
Your doing well with the bonnets mate  :smiley: your better at uploading pics than me lol

I often do bits and bobs to the car when I can but don't often post until I have some proof as I get b*tched at.  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 18 July 2011, 16:42
Right well progress is being made.. finally.. i have primed the bay and given it a couple of coats of VW diamond black.. the finish is shocking but this is only going to be a temporary measure till i can get it on the road save a bit of money and pay a bodyshop to do it all properly.. I need to get some more black so that i get a good colour even if the finish is sh!t.. the only reason the finish is bad is i havent had time to prep the bay properly and im very impatient with rattle cans  :grin: :grin:

I have also given the subframe 2 coats of black hammerite it also looks bad but its only to serve a purpose as just dont have the time/money to spend getting it blasted and powdercoated for very little gain over than looks and OEM'ness..

Heres some pics its coming along nicely and im trying to find as much time as possible between work and such..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0515.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0514.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0513.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0511.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0510.jpg)(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0509.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0508.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0512.jpg)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 18 July 2011, 19:29
As some of you may know im going to be running a cable clutch as cant be arsed with all the hydraulic stuff.. Here is info from Neo Badness for cable clutch i need to buy all these parts..

- Quote Neo Badness -

SEAT (?) Part no 02B 141 708A bearing bracket £44.62,

Passat syncro part number is 02A 141 708B £33.47.

You will need the actuator (the rubber boot is separate mind) with both bolts,the cable holding bracket from the gearbox to the gearbox mount,then the cable (yes a toledo 16v cable is right)

It will cost "about" £145.00 all in.

The actuator is about £40.00
the bracket about £45.00
The cable about £43.00
plus the rubber boot and the bolts to fit it all

I got all this info from

http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107068

HTH's
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 18 July 2011, 20:34
Electric wing mirrors on way.. not sure whether electric included or not will see when arrive can just make up a loom if not..

Also a new mk3 16v ecu without immobiliser which has saved me £55 if it works  :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 18 July 2011, 21:16
Right just spent a half hour labelling up my loom from Rubjonny he sent me a good PM which should make it so much easier for other people like me who are not that great with electrics  :smiley:

This is on behalf of Rubjonny hope he doesnt mind -

small bit that goes on the engine:
2 & 3 pin plug furthest away from round plug - idle & tps plugs on the throttle body
3 pin plug near round plug - dizzy
2 pin white plug - white coolant sensor side of head
single spade connector - black coolant sensor side of head
ring terminal - bolt to rear of head
3 pin & 5 pin plug - isv and fuel rail
blue wire with single spade - large blue or brown sensor on filter housing (has black outer sheath, peel back the big rubber boot to check wire colour)
yellow wire with single spade - large white sensor on filter housing (has black outer sheath, peel back the big rubber boot to check wire colour)
green/black single spade - small white sensor on filter housing

fusebox:
4 main fb plugs will only fit the sockets they need to go in due to the layout, pin orientation and the locking peg on the back
single pin with large spade and red wire - Z/1
single pin grey/white wire - diagnostics
3 random single wires - mk3 dash so unused

engine bay:
7 pin plug near ecu connector - the old mk2 tci-h unit
2 pin and 4 pin plugs near fusebox plugs - inlet temp and lambda
2 pin plug on its own with red/white and brown/white - outside temp sensor in passenger side inner wing
brown ring terminal on its own - battery -ve
2 pin plug red/black and blue/black - reverse switch
single pin plug blue wire - alternator wire (the blue wire on mk2 lighting loom near battery +ve is now unused, or you can use this instead whichever is easier)
3x 3 pin plugs near big round plug - knock sensors and crank sensor. the 2 knock sensor plugs are the ones that are the same shape, and are colour coded to the knock sensor plugs
chunky red/black wire - starter motor

diagnostics and immob box:
black - ign live
brown - earth (i use the stud on the a pillar with 13mm nut)
red/white and brown - live and earth to ciggy lighter wires

HTH
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Len on 22 July 2011, 08:54
All hail rubjonny! :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 24 July 2011, 01:12
All hail rubjonny! :wink:

not seen him about much though.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 24 July 2011, 10:24
Did u get my pm mate?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 24 July 2011, 10:36
Yer sorry am at great Yarmouth at the mo what was it you were saying I didn't totally understand lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 24 July 2011, 11:37
Am off with a differant gear linkage setup. So my hydro set ups up for grabs. Was offerin u it first b4 I put it in classifieds
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 24 July 2011, 12:44
Am off with a differant gear linkage setup. So my hydro set ups up for grabs. Was offerin u it first b4 I put it in classifieds

Oh right I'm gona stay with cable clutch thanks mate pm me a price though if it's cheap enough I may have it lol  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Len on 25 July 2011, 08:46
All hail rubjonny! :wink:

not seen him about much though.


You wont either!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 25 July 2011, 09:22
All hail rubjonny! :wink:

not seen him about much though.


You wont either!

Whys that then?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 25 July 2011, 10:00
It's easy if you have his number lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Len on 28 July 2011, 08:44
Or on facebook! :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 28 July 2011, 09:15
Or on facebook! :wink:

You never answered my question?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Len on 28 July 2011, 10:17
Or on facebook! :wink:

You never answered my question?

Shaun, I dont reveal private conversations as he may not want me to make his views public.
He will respond to PM's
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 28 July 2011, 10:22
Or on facebook! :wink:

You never answered my question?

Shaun, I dont reveal private conversations as he may not want me to make his views public.
He will respond to PM's

Oh sorry, Views, private conversations.....................I didn't realise. 
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 28 July 2011, 10:23
He is still active just not as much as normal
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 02 August 2011, 19:50
just started re-assebling my subframe..  all looks good just need to bolt the steering rack back on with some new tie rods..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 21:56
just started re-assebling my subframe..  all looks good just need to bolt the steering rack back on with some new tie rods..

And I suppose pictures are to follow right?  :rolleyes:  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 02 August 2011, 22:31
Maybe tomo as i go holiday thursday so wana get a bit done before i go  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 22:35
Maybe tomo as i go holiday thursday so wana get a bit done before i go  :smiley:

Holiday!?.. You haven't got time for one of those!  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 02 August 2011, 22:37
Tell me about it im skint at the moment.. but looked at the bay today and its coming along just needs a lot more paint  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 22:45
Tell me about it im skint at the moment.. but looked at the bay today and its coming along just needs a lot more paint  :smiley:

Oh well, once the lady has had a holiday she might be proper chilled and let you get on with it without moaning about cash!  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 02 August 2011, 22:54
yer she goes away for a week in september should get loads done then  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 22:58
yer she goes away for a week in september should get loads done then  :evil: :evil:
I love it when that happens!...........  :grin: not enough though these days!  :angry:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 02 August 2011, 23:00
so so true.. i just wana get the engine in and see what im missing lol..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 23:00
so so true.. i just wana get the engine in and see what im missing lol..

well it won't be her! :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 22 August 2011, 15:24
engine bay has been finished and the result is shocking but it will go into a bodyshop sometime in the new year to have the whole bay done so im not that fussed..

rear subframe.. steering rack.. suspension have all been refitted so its now a rolling shell... been building up my ABF to see what parts i need looks like i need a loads of gaskets for bits and bobs and a few bolts/nuts..

have lost 2 bolts for the front subframe so couldnt test fit the engine today  :embarassed: :embarassed:

seems to be going at a good pace now... again..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Len on 23 August 2011, 12:56
About time!  :rolleyes:

 :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 23 August 2011, 12:57
pics
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 12:57
About time!  :rolleyes:

 :grin:

Tell me about it seems to take forever.. installed the loom loosely today but need to do loads more wiring.. need a few parts before i can test fit engine.. you got any mk3 bits lying about ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 12:57
pics


Will get some pics tomo as just put it all away as weather sh!te here  :sad:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Len on 23 August 2011, 13:00
About time!  :rolleyes:

 :grin:

Tell me about it seems to take forever.. installed the loom loosely today but need to do loads more wiring.. need a few parts before i can test fit engine.. you got any mk3 bits lying about ??

Loads of engine bits from both an ABF and TDi.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 13:01
i need the front and gearbox bit that goes from engine to the engine mount you got any  :kiss:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Len on 23 August 2011, 13:03
Dont think you left that on there.........
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 23 August 2011, 13:05
i will have a look when i get home later today mate, you on about the front engine mount bracet that the startmoter half bolts to?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 13:09
Dont think you left that on there.........

Na just curious on if you have spare ones or no anyone that might  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 13:10
i will have a look when i get home later today mate, you on about the front engine mount bracet that the startmoter half bolts to?

No idea probably  :grin: all i know is i have a front cross member with a engine mount on it and no way of attaching this to the engine as cant find the mount i removed ages ago.. Thanks for looking mate  :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 23 August 2011, 13:14
i may have one sat about from my old engine if not am sure my mate will have one
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 13:21
i may have one sat about from my old engine if not am sure my mate will have one

Thanks mate just let me know please  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: lemski on 23 August 2011, 13:23
will do, if i have one al send u it with the crossmember bbolts aswell. ne other things uve lost, pm me and ill see what av got
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 14:00
Thanks  :kiss:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 17:58
Need some loom tape i see the stuff i need is made by a company called Tesa.. They are £5 a roll delivered on the bay does anyone know anywhere cheaper ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 23 August 2011, 20:09
Need some loom tape i see the stuff i need is made by a company called Tesa.. They are £5 a roll delivered on the bay does anyone know anywhere cheaper ??

Just bought off the bay so should be able to tart the loom up come the end of the week happy to keep this moving  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 30 August 2011, 17:14
Loom all wrapped now which has tidied it up no end.. tried mounting the gearbox to engine but to no avail i think ive missed something so any help much appreciated its annoying me now.. but still progress  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 04 September 2011, 14:45
Fuse box all re-wired as i unplugged everything when removing the engine for ease.. loom wrapped all the interior loom so its much neater than stray wires.. top dash refitted so i can sort where everything goes.. Seems to be finally coming together.. just last bit of wiring needs tidying and find where a few loose wires go.. fit engine and off i go.. Hopefully  :grin:

On a side note the Halfords small car cover which when i bought it about 6-7 months ago was great is now shockingly bad.. its all cracked in the sun which its apparently not supposed to do and is now letting water into the car.. So ive had to revert back to using old fashioned tarpaulin  :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 September 2011, 21:16
Get back to Halfords and get a replacement, or refund.  :undecided:

That's not good enough.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 04 September 2011, 23:24
I was thinking that but I split it with the bonnet I'm just shocked as this was highly recommended  :angry:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Len on 05 September 2011, 20:00
A roll of DPM is just as good and will last as long.
Probably longer as you will get more than 1 piece large enough for less money!









DPM = damp proof membrane. In other words a roll of polythene
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 05 September 2011, 20:27
Is this same as tarpaulin lol ?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 September 2011, 22:12
Fuse box all re-wired as i unplugged everything when removing the engine for ease.. loom wrapped all the interior loom so its much neater than stray wires.. top dash refitted so i can sort where everything goes.. Seems to be finally coming together.. just last bit of wiring needs tidying and find where a few loose wires go.. fit engine and off i go.. Hopefully  :grin:

On a side note the Halfords small car cover which when i bought it about 6-7 months ago was great is now shockingly bad.. its all cracked in the sun which its apparently not supposed to do and is now letting water into the car.. So ive had to revert back to using old fashioned tarpaulin  :angry: :angry:

Noooooooooooo. dont use tarp or plastic covers... get a breathable!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 05 September 2011, 22:16
i fitted a bloody breathable and its gone crap and split so im put off.. the halfords one is still fitted but a tarp laid over the top
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 05 September 2011, 22:22
i fitted a bloody breathable and its gone crap and split so im put off.. the halfords one is still fitted but a tarp laid over the top

Hmmmm, is it the grey one?... I got one, it's been on my car for way longer and its fine... must have got a duffer.  As DH said, take it back and kick off!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 05 September 2011, 23:39
I cant be bothered my halfords are crap its not worth the hastle.. i am only worried as all the wiring is back in i dont want it getting all soggy lol especially as ive bent a fair bit on proper loom tape to wrap it all  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 September 2011, 00:02
I cant be bothered my halfords are crap its not worth the hastle.. i am only worried as all the wiring is back in i dont want it getting all soggy lol especially as ive bent a fair bit on proper loom tape to wrap it all  :grin:

Sounds like the exact same predicament I was in.  Did mine in winter pretty much!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 06 September 2011, 00:14
well it seems ive been too lazy and summer is now over so winter outside it is.. still searching for a decent garage though  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 September 2011, 00:29
well it seems ive been too lazy and summer is now over so winter outside it is.. still searching for a decent garage though  :smiley:

Find me one while you're at it.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 06 September 2011, 00:37
yer i wish they seem to all be further into east london than i like i missed out on one 2 mins from my house it was like inbetween single and double in size and only £55 a month
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: Neo Badness on 08 September 2011, 01:00
well it seems ive been too lazy and summer is now over so winter outside it is.. still searching for a decent garage though  :smiley:

= rockin horse poo with hens teeth in it. They either too small, too big or too expensive. I'm hunting for one too. There's a gap in the garages near me where one was demolished and I keep thinking that if I were to put up a garage in the night would anybody actually notice/ care? :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 14 September 2011, 19:33
well it seems ive been too lazy and summer is now over so winter outside it is.. still searching for a decent garage though  :smiley:

= rockin horse poo with hens teeth in it. They either too small, too big or too expensive. I'm hunting for one too. There's a gap in the garages near me where one was demolished and I keep thinking that if I were to put up a garage in the night would anybody actually notice/ care? :grin:

Yer your right there.. im such an idiot for letting one go my friend didnt want it was a large single garage enough room to squeeze down each side of a golf without electric £55 a month..

Progress has pretty much stopped as the weather has been bad i dont mind cold but rain is just annoying... Plus i need to buy parts and have no money to do so lol..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 16 September 2011, 13:52
Right well an update is here and some pics  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Have loads of wires im not sure where they plug into so ideas would be appreciated people  :smiley: They are mainly single plugs but a few that have more wires in.. also i cant seem to find any stereo related wiring  :huh: maybe the stereo stuff is in the photos below please help as wana get this thing started  :grin:

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0583.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0582.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0580.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0578.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0576.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0574.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0573.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0579.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0571.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0570.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0569.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0568.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0567.jpg)

Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project
Post by: tech1889 on 16 September 2011, 13:54
This is how she stands at the moment dash is fitted but not 100% so i can remove for access if need be..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0596.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0595.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0593.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0592.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0594.jpg)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 16 September 2011, 14:01
I know in one of the pictures there is a VDO sensor from the mk2 clocks does this get fitted if using mk3 clocks or ??
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: Diamond Hell on 16 September 2011, 14:11
I hope you've got things running prior to winding up that engine loom!!

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0580.jpg)

Earths - pretty much anything brown like that needs to go on the earths connector - a baskety thing up by the fuseboard.

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0578.jpg)

Main power feed - goes in the back of the fuseboard - find something that will take it.

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0569.jpg)

Stereo plug

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0568.jpg)

Stereo again - power not speakers.



Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 16 September 2011, 15:08
Thanks mate any ideas on the yellow 1 wire plug from the fusebox theres a couple of these i think not going into nothing ??

The power for the speaker is good atleast i know where that is now.. the speakers have been re-wired with proper speaker wire and not very well so will re-do this after ive got the engine in an running..

And na ive wrapped it before the engine is running lol.. i have faith though as RubJonny made the loom if worse comes to worse can unwrap and rewrap at later date  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 16 September 2011, 18:54
just tried to fit gearbox to block and again no luck its just wont fit  :undecided:

Also i cleaned up the injector rail as it was filthy.. good old autosmart G101  :cool: and i have various other bits and bobs a little clean
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: Diamond Hell on 17 September 2011, 00:29
Thanks mate any ideas on the yellow 1 wire plug from the fusebox theres a couple of these i think not going into nothing ??

They may never have been fitted in to anything.  Go find another Golf of similar vintage and compare is your best bet  :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 September 2011, 10:00
My 10 pence worth.  I think the yellow is the Dim Dip (headlights) control wire.  Had similar on mine and is not required.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 17 September 2011, 10:15
My 10 pence worth.  I think the yellow is the Dim Dip (headlights) control wire.  Had similar on mine and is not required.

So why is it there mate ?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 September 2011, 10:18
My 10 pence worth.  I think the yellow is the Dim Dip (headlights) control wire.  Had similar on mine and is not required.

So why is it there mate ?

When I rewired the MK1 I was lost with a yellow wire with no home and everything worked!... In some countries dim dip is required, the equivelant of DRLs but they use your headlights at 30% during the day until you actually turn your headlights on.  I could be wrong when it comes to your car but this is what I found with mine.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 17 September 2011, 10:30
Did you keep it ?

It does make sense and i suppose it's less hastle for VW to leave it there. I will see when I plug the battery in to whether stuff works lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 September 2011, 10:55
Did you keep it ?

It does make sense and i suppose it's less hastle for VW to leave it there. I will see when I plug the battery in to whether stuff works lol
  Mine was wrapped in as part of the engine loom I think so left it strapped up behind the fuse box.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 17 September 2011, 11:20
Right well if everything works then i will just remove or leave it as i want the fusebox to be tidied so its easier to work on as when i unplugged everything and removed the engine the fusebox and wiring was a right old mess..  :grin:

update on gearbox i have these part numbers

2 part numbers ive found,

o2A 945 413 B - on the shift tower - And google says this is the reverse light switch

o2A 301 107 C - on the inside of the housing - Quick google tells me its a 5speed trans housing

any ideas ?

Can get pics of gearbox if that helps people ?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 17 September 2011, 13:14
Turns out the box i have is for a bloody VR6  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 17 September 2011, 13:24
Now on the hunt for a ABF gearbox cheap.. wish i hadnt thrown my other one to the dump  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: Neo Badness on 17 September 2011, 20:34
Now on the hunt for a ABF gearbox cheap.. wish i hadnt thrown my other one to the dump  :cry: :cry:

Sure there will be someone out there in need of a vr6 g/box.

 I'm wishing I hadn't thrown out my old mk3 tank/pump/fuel lines :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 18 September 2011, 13:19
yer there should be its mint and got all new seals throughout so its cheap for what you get..

yer i just wish i had more space as i would have kept the mk3 subframe, steering rack and all that stuff and swapped it over for the mk2 stuff but as space was sought after i had to get rid  :angry:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 18 September 2011, 19:27
Am fed up with getting it running ABF atm so the rebuilt engine is now for sale... Just going to get the body and everything else solid and then fit an engine at the end..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: Neo Badness on 18 September 2011, 20:00
You're not putting the ABF in!? Bummer dude. Have you thought about it long and hard? Why not hold onto the engine until you're ready?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 18 September 2011, 20:04
Yer i dont want to fit it anymore.. If it doesnt sell and when im ready to fit it its still here then i will fit it but tbh ive lost heart with it.. especially after i found out i had the wrong box..

im still going ahead with the car but the engine will be decided further down the line its not a big deal at the moment  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: Len on 21 September 2011, 12:31
Strange! sorry i just dont know what else to say!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 18 November 2011, 09:57
Right slowly been getting parts and meeting some lovely dubbers along the way I'm trying so hard to not keep neglecting the car..

I have bought a new abf gearbox.. It's 50% cleaned up.. Finish cleaning it today and will paint it with smooth silver Hammerite just to make it look a bit neater.. I also got the shifter and cables included..

Bought a new green tint rear window for a good price as mine works but the elements have all gone dodgey so will change that today..

Bought new handbrake surrounds, gear stick surround, and headlight switch, radio surround non cracked for £10 which I thought was a good price..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: Neo Badness on 18 November 2011, 12:30
Devil is in the detail. Good to hear you've got some more bits collected.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 18 November 2011, 13:39
Devil is in the detail. Good to hear you've got some more bits collected.

cheers mate its not going to look great but better will do me  :smiley:

autosmart G101 in strong dilution and a wire brush gets gearboxes clean  :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 18 November 2011, 13:54
Where ive had the cover on for a year now i have even more lacquer peel great !!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: Len on 18 November 2011, 15:57
Good to hear you got that gearbox at last! :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 18 November 2011, 16:24
Good to hear you got that gearbox at last! :wink:

Cheers mate managed to get it at a good price as well.. Gearbox.. shifter and cables.. green tint rear window with spoiler.. a few interior bits.. for £90  :cool:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: Neo Badness on 19 November 2011, 00:23
That's my kinda deal :cool:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: travisreeve on 19 November 2011, 07:27
Loving this project tech  :grin:

keep up the good work  :cool:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 19 November 2011, 10:09
Cheers boys, just wish I didn't have to do shifts and had more money.. Nevermind I'm soldiering on with a little each month  :smiley:

Gearbox was half painted yesterday then had to go to work may go and finish it now..

Couldn't remove rear window yesterday as no room to push out will try again soon but at the moment the spare window is covering the sunroof hole as water was getting through 2 car covers and making interior mouldy which is not nice..

Onwards and upwards   :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 14 December 2011, 17:35
Right onwards and upwards for people that dont check the project pages

gearbox is still not fully painted but no rush  :wink:

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0700.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0701.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0702.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0703.jpg)

this is still how dirty the inside is.. i go impatient and only cleaned outside.. atleast this way i can just wipe off muck on outside  :wink:

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0704.jpg)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 14 December 2011, 17:38
also i received something i had been waiting to come up for sale for a long time and it finally did so snapped it up

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0775.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_0776.jpg)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ??? 'restoration' project *Update page 24*
Post by: tech1889 on 14 December 2011, 17:44
included in this bolt kit is -

wing and slam panel bolts
door latch and hinge bolts
boot latch / catch and hinge bolts
bonnet latch and hinge bolts
arch, sill and bonnet catch rivets
petrol flap bolts
dash and door card screws
door handle screws
door handle bolts
wiper motor bolts
gear selector bolts
brake servo, master cylinder and exhaust nuts and bolts
battery clamp nuts and bolts
rear beam bolts
subframe bolts
rocker cover nuts and bolts
front and rear bumper support bolts

engine bolts

inlet nuts and bolts
waterpump housing nuts and bolts
exhaust shield nuts and bolts
engine mount bolts
various brackets
TB bolts
sump bolts

Also extras i got thrown in for free are -

tank strap bolts
rear plinth bolts
hose clamp kit for radiator
and loads and loads of various nuts, bolts and washers..

I got all this for £65 so i am i very happy bunnys at the moment  :smiley:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 December 2011, 18:28
Nice bit of progress.  :cool:

Good find with the bolt kit, what are they made of? I've been doing some of mine as when something needs doing, for example all the wing bolts are now stainless, the originals were a bit hit and miss.   Also replace everything for the bodykit with similar. 

Sounds like you've got everything you'll ever need. I always loose the odd nut or bolt when it comes to removing and replacing stuff.
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Post by: Gti_Jamo on 14 December 2011, 18:42
Good finish on the gearbox. Is that just brushed on hammerite? Where abouts did you find the bolt kit? Could do with a kit like that for my Mk3 rebuild.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: tech1889 on 14 December 2011, 18:51
Cheers guys the bolt kit seems good quality it is apparently zinc coated but who knows..

It is just a random guy afaik because he only does kits every so often they normally around £80 and he only does mk2 golfs afaik don't quote me on this...

It should have most of what I need and all the spares will keep me going as it has loads of odds and sods like disc brake shield bolts etc which will come in handy
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: Gti_Jamo on 15 December 2011, 16:22
Cheers guys the bolt kit seems good quality it is apparently zinc coated but who knows..

It is just a random guy afaik because he only does kits every so often they normally around £80 and he only does mk2 golfs afaik don't quote me on this...

It should have most of what I need and all the spares will keep me going as it has loads of odds and sods like disc brake shield bolts etc which will come in handy

Aw thats a shame. I guess i'll have to just clean up my original nuts and bolts. Anyway keep up the good work, loving the effort your puting in. Going to be painting my engine and box shortly so if I can get it looking half as good as yours i'll be happy!!
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: tech1889 on 17 December 2011, 17:41
yer i was lucky as only seem them for sale once when i was skint lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: DanChave on 18 December 2011, 14:53
The gearbox is looking good man! Keep it up :)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: tech1889 on 18 December 2011, 19:09
The gearbox is looking good man! Keep it up :)

Have been drunk all weekend will get going again after this Friday as off for 10 days  :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: Len on 23 December 2011, 13:12
Gearbox looks great!

Have ya got that bracket yet?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: tech1889 on 23 December 2011, 14:23
Gearbox looks great!

Have ya got that bracket yet?

Cheers mate... Still waiting for a bloody bracket no one has one  :sad:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: leeroy20vt on 23 December 2011, 16:13
what bracket is it u need m8 might have
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: tech1889 on 23 December 2011, 19:25
what bracket is it u need m8 might have

need mk3 o2a gearbox bracket that goes from gearbox to engine mount
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: leeroy20vt on 23 December 2011, 20:20
what bracket is it u need m8 might have

need mk3 o2a gearbox bracket that goes from gearbox to engine mount

you got a pic of one m8 il have a look around  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: tech1889 on 23 December 2011, 22:32
Will try and get you one tomo.. I'm surprised I didn't get with gearbox lol
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF 'restoration' project *Update page 27* *14-12-11*
Post by: Adam on 23 December 2011, 23:01
Front one or rear one?
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Post by: tech1889 on 23 December 2011, 23:09
Front one or rear one?

Rear one that bolts to top of gearbox like an arm ?
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Post by: leeroy20vt on 25 December 2011, 07:12
Will try and get you one tomo.. I'm surprised I didn't get with gearbox lol

thats why im asking for the pic i think i know what u mean u want but when i know for sure il kick guy up the arse and find out were it went  :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Adam on 25 December 2011, 16:50
I bought one for my mk3 02a conversion. Was £27 something from TPS.

The rear shiny thing?

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e46/Adam135/a3b51988.jpg)
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Post by: tech1889 on 25 December 2011, 16:52
I bought one for my mk3 02a conversion. Was £27 something from TPS.

what for the whole rear arm type bracket ?? thats good would ya know where i could get PN ?
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Post by: Adam on 25 December 2011, 16:55
You just need the bracket and not the mount? If so yeah £27 ish. Was cheaper than buying one on eBay. I think I have the PN somewhere.
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Post by: Adam on 25 December 2011, 16:58
Part number: 357199353A
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Post by: tech1889 on 25 December 2011, 17:05
this the part mate

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkCxidVXyiFVZ9D6m5ufvbCvZITuHr-LtjQo0WVX1IQGV07LhgokYJB3LX)

2 bolts to gearbox and one to engine mount ?? what about a bracket the goes on two holes top of gearbox ?
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Post by: Adam on 25 December 2011, 17:33
That's the puppy. What two holes? For the cables? Use that pic of my box for ref.
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Post by: tech1889 on 25 December 2011, 17:38
If thats what i need great  :smiley: i thought i needed something else my bad.. is that all you used to fit yours ??
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Post by: tech1889 on 25 December 2011, 17:39
thought i needed this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-MK3-GOLF-5-SPEED-GEARBOX-MOUNTING-BRACKET-BOLTS-/320805760619?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ab1836e6b#ht_647wt_1037
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Post by: Adam on 25 December 2011, 18:55
Yep thats all thats fitted. I have seen a longtidunial bar fitted to a few motors but not like that. Where on the box does that go? Can't seem to find it on my gearbox?
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Post by: Adam on 25 December 2011, 19:05
Okay I know what that is. No idea why you would need it, never seen it on a car with my own eyes. Goes from the diff mount to the gearbox.
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Post by: tech1889 on 25 December 2011, 19:25
Thankyou very much I have been confused on this for a while will get one of these on pay day  :smiley:

How's your car ?
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Post by: Adam on 25 December 2011, 20:44
 What one? The golf is in the garage waiting for either an engine or to be prepared for sale. Audi is awesome as always :evil:

You still working on this mk2?! :grin:
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Post by: tech1889 on 25 December 2011, 20:54
The golf.. you seem as slow at fixing that as i am getting this engine fitted..

Yer course im working on it just slowly thats the bad thing about working shift work and having a mrs my 'own' time is next to nothing..
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Post by: Adam on 25 December 2011, 21:41
The Golf is fixed just deciding if I should put a 1.8t, 16v, or VR in it.

What's left to do to get it in?
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Post by: tech1889 on 25 December 2011, 21:44
off the top of my head..

clutch bolts
gearbox bracket
clutch cable and assembly
cv joints for shafts as ones fitted are dead
coolant pipes for engine as got none
oil cooler
oil cooler gasket
dizzy
leads
plugs
odds and sods lol

 and then try and fit it all back in the bay.. so still quite a bit

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Post by: tech1889 on 30 December 2011, 11:01
Right im going to the dealers to order some parts  :smiley:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 December 2011, 11:37
Right im going to the dealers to order some parts  :smiley:

All of the above so you can get the car done for the New Year?
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Post by: tech1889 on 30 December 2011, 12:00
Gearbox bracket, clutch bolts, oil cooler, oil cooler to block gasket..

Oil cooler from eBay as dealer wants £90 minus o-ring  :shocked:
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Post by: tech1889 on 30 December 2011, 12:11
What plugs shall i buy ??

I have a set of leads and dizzy in the garage will use them for mean time..

All i really need is some coolant hose shall i just buy some flexi SFS or SAMCO ??
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Post by: tech1889 on 30 December 2011, 15:10
Plugs have now been ordered.. Standard spec ngk..

Engine is nearly done  :smiley:
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Post by: tech1889 on 23 May 2012, 19:59
Bit of cheeky progress today..  :smiley:

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/golfoncrane.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/enginefitted.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/enginefittedawesome.jpg)

Also painted the front two cross members.. I only fitted this to check the routing of my wiring loom.. Tomo if i have the urge im going to try and run new brake lines..
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Post by: JC on 23 May 2012, 20:00
its like a 50/50 engine

half clean, half  :sick:
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Post by: tech1889 on 23 May 2012, 20:03
its like a 50/50 engine

half clean, half  :sick:

There are bits like inlet etc which are going to be polished eventually  :smiley: alternator is filthy tho lol
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Post by: tech1889 on 23 May 2012, 20:04
Test fit of my new pin stripe grille  :cool:

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/bonnetopen1.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/bonnetclosed.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/sideishview.jpg)
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Post by: lemski on 24 May 2012, 08:17
Lookin gd buddy. Likethe update
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Post by: tech1889 on 24 May 2012, 15:44
Lookin gd buddy. Likethe update

Only ended up doing something because i looked at when i painted the gearbox and it was december the 13th so thought maybe its time to get my finger out and start spending some money and get it road worthy
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Post by: tech1889 on 30 May 2012, 19:24
Just bought a full set of coolant hoses including metal pipe all less than 6months old and in mind condition for the pricely sum of £60 which is a lot cheaper than dealer prices !

Going to collect on Saturday.. mk3 golf subframe, power steering rack, wishbones, hubs, calipers, carriers which are 4x100 and 280mm brakes.. Will take them apart clean it up press new bearings in the hubs and paint it all up.. and then fit and connect up P/S lines..

Also going to order a new 8v rad in next few days only £30 delivered from GSF  :shocked:

Coming together now  :smiley:
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Post by: jmsheahan on 30 May 2012, 22:32
Bargain on the hoses, nice  :cool:

What make is the GSF rad? Picked up one recently from http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270931095426#ht_1525wt_1165 Genuine Hella and was top quality.
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Post by: Mr Blue on 31 May 2012, 00:49
hurry up  :tongue:
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 May 2012, 03:26
Not sure on the make and can't view your link as at work..

Blue I'm going as quick as funds allow I have a mechanic coming to help me next few days run my new kunifer brake lines :) then need to fit my new seat m/c and coolant hoses then I don't have much left to do before welding and mot hopefully :)
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Post by: Len on 31 May 2012, 12:51
Big improvement on when I last saw it! :grin:
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 May 2012, 15:51
Big improvement on when I last saw it! :grin:

Tell me about it mate.. Its been so neglected but not a lot i can do funds were really low last year and i was training for most of the year so not getting 10 mins to myself..
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 May 2012, 18:40
jmsheahan im gona go for the rad you got in that link ordering now  :smiley:

I have so overspent this month its a joke.. VW now taking front row for a bit lol
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 May 2012, 18:57
4 new CV's  :wink:

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_12931.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_12921.jpg)
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Post by: Len on 31 May 2012, 23:21
Big improvement on when I last saw it! :grin:

Tell me about it mate.. Its been so neglected but not a lot i can do funds were really low last year and i was training for most of the year so not getting 10 mins to myself..

Like I must get and finish my rear hatch! :grin:
I know what its like, currently working away and only get to see missus at weekends and seems unfair to spend it down in the garage!
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Post by: tech1889 on 01 June 2012, 18:53
Spent a few hours on it again today.. Not a lot to report as stuff just seemed to be a pain in the arse.. Removed both front wings as they need repairing or new ones as the bottoms are a bit rusty but not major so may just try and weld a piece on the bottom.. wire brushed the brake servo and just put a bit of hammerite on it to stop it rusting and will replace in the future but they like £100 new.. Also fitted my new SEAT master cylinder which is awesome as its stubby i have loads of clearance from head..

Can see me running into a few problems tho.. There seems to be clearance issues between chassis and where my power steering belt will be going theres just like no room will post a pic up tomorrow of the clearance..  :undecided: will post pics tomorrow.. Also with my power steering bottle in the original mk2 position its fouling on the top of the gearbox so think i may need to move this a bit  :undecided:

Im just pleased to be spending time on it  :smiley: Pics to follow
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Post by: tech1889 on 01 June 2012, 18:54
(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_1297.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_1294.jpg)

My BILSTEIN shocks and springs  :smiley:

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_1295.jpg)

Tucked up again for the night

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_1298.jpg)
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Post by: tech1889 on 01 June 2012, 18:56
Oh and i have new brakes here just need to undo the mk2 track rod end which is a right pita
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Post by: tshirt2k on 02 June 2012, 15:50
Some progress then  :cool:
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Post by: tech1889 on 02 June 2012, 16:46
Here you can see how tight the room is

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_12991.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_13001.jpg)

Also heres my stubby M/C this is 23.7mm i believe which should give a great pedal feel..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_13011.jpg)
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Post by: tshirt2k on 02 June 2012, 16:54
Thats nothing on that pulley.  :wink:
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Post by: tech1889 on 02 June 2012, 17:01
what you mean mate ??

Also cant get my head around how to fit the power steering pump  :undecided:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 02 June 2012, 18:51
You got a pic from underneath? was refering to the gap as mk1's are worse.
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Post by: tech1889 on 02 June 2012, 18:59
Can get one tomorrow mate but not got one to hand..

Just cant seem to remember how to fit the steering pump lol might be missing a bracket  :undecided:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 02 June 2012, 19:56
Could be your problem. Does look a bit out of line.
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Post by: tech1889 on 02 June 2012, 22:34
Everythings aligned might be photo making it look out of align mate..

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Post by: jmsheahan on 03 June 2012, 21:59
I'll snap a couple of pics of the P/S setup on mine tomorrow if it helps.
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Post by: tech1889 on 04 June 2012, 11:18
please mate :) what setup you using ?
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Post by: jmsheahan on 04 June 2012, 18:03
please mate :) what setup you using ?

Standard ABF setup mate, using Mk2 lines and P/S unions though. Here's a few snaps from the garage earlier, hope it helps. If you need anymore snaps give us a shout.

Top view of alternator setup - there's probably at least a fingers worth of gap between the engine and the chassis leg but the pic makes it look a bit closer. Looks about the same as yours:

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/jmsheahan_44/IMG_6048.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/jmsheahan_44/IMG_6049.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/jmsheahan_44/IMG_6031.jpg)

Underside of P/S assembly

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/jmsheahan_44/IMG_6027.jpg)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/jmsheahan_44/IMG_6026.jpg)
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Post by: tech1889 on 05 June 2012, 03:25
Cheers mate any chance you could post a pic of the front p/s assembly ? Thankyou
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Post by: jmsheahan on 06 June 2012, 13:08
Which bit do you mean specifically chap? The other side (reservoir etc)? Read about the issues with the bracket you were having - might not be able to help there as I'm using an 020 box rather than the 02a box. Think the G60 and corrado res is up by the washer bottle - might be worth trying to source that setup if you can't get it work.
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Post by: earlymk2 on 06 June 2012, 15:14
Hello mate nice project. What is the brake master cylinder from? Could do with one of those for my 20v T conversion.
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Post by: tech1889 on 06 June 2012, 23:54
Can you get a pic of the front of the power steering pump and bracket please ? I'm going to move the bracket for better access..

The m/c is off a SEAT cupra might be the turbo one not sure.. £30 on eBay with adaptor as you need adaptor to fit mk2/3 servo
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Post by: tech1889 on 07 June 2012, 01:14
SEAT ibiza cupra that m/c just checked  :wink:

Just got in from a late shift to a little goodie.. Brand new genuine HELLA rad for the pricely sum of £29 cant beat that !

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_13101.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/IMG_13111.jpg)
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Post by: earlymk2 on 07 June 2012, 08:46
Can you get a pic of the front of the power steering pump and bracket please ? I'm going to move the bracket for better access..

The m/c is off a SEAT cupra might be the turbo one not sure.. £30 on eBay with adaptor as you need adaptor to fit mk2/3 servo

Nice one thanks very much.
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Post by: jmsheahan on 12 June 2012, 01:24
Can you get a pic of the front of the power steering pump and bracket please ? I'm going to move the bracket for better access..


Sorry bud I completely forgot to do this, will try grab a pic up the garage tomorrow.
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Post by: tech1889 on 12 June 2012, 01:28
Cheers mate :)
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Post by: tech1889 on 21 June 2012, 22:14
256mm front brake setup fitted ready to go 280 when im ready.. got two new flexi lines delivered but think they the wrong ones  :sad: time to order up soon
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Post by: tshirt2k on 22 June 2012, 12:45
Pics?

Did they go on ok?
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Post by: tech1889 on 22 June 2012, 20:16
Yer went on a treat mate.. i soaked the mk2 track rods with plusgas and used stilsens and they came off a treat.. only problem is on the track roads my track rod ends are about 20mm further out each side and not held on with a lot.. does this mean i need a mk3 rack ?? also i need tdi shafts :(
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Post by: tshirt2k on 22 June 2012, 22:56
Did you use the mk3 track rod ends ? As long as there's a good few threads going into them they should be ok.

Yea I think you'll need shafts. Mine went with the engine and box.
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Post by: tech1889 on 24 June 2012, 01:11
yer they are on about 4 full turns it just worries me as the mk2 items went on another 20mm i dont want these coming loose.. im sure tdi shafts will be cheap as chips down a scrappy or ebay.. will get pics soon of the brakes.. still waiting on my friend to run my lines..


Corrado pedal box and master cylinder on route all i need is line from master to slave and master to reserviour..
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2012, 08:45
Just realised mate. You need to change steering arms too. Probably for that reason.

Look here (http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?220814-THE-(long-overdue!)-Definitive-Wide-Tracking-FAQ&highlight=Widetrack+steering+arms) it's in the table.
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Post by: lemski on 24 June 2012, 10:02
U need mk4 track rod ends. I got em on my 2 with widetrack
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Post by: tech1889 on 24 June 2012, 14:02
So are they longer then so held on with more thread ???
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Post by: tech1889 on 29 June 2012, 20:23
Tomorrow is seeing a day spent on the little golf.. Pedal box and m/c here so will attempt fitting of that tomorrow as well.. m/c looks nearly new and is genuine VW which im happy with..

Also its going to get new kunifer brake lines from flexi's to my new 23mm m/c  :wink:

Lets hope the weather holds up !
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Post by: Neo Badness on 30 June 2012, 00:13
Sounds like a plan.

Your 23mm M/c where is the dimension that is different from the 22mm? Iirc it's the plunger? I bought a 23mm aaaaaages ago and never fitted and have vernier gauges now so just wanted to see if I'd been sold a lemon or not.

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Post by: tech1889 on 30 June 2012, 22:13
It's 23mm piston it's from seat Ibiza cupra iirc

Managed to get 3 metal brake lines fitted and run out of kunifer :(

Also the m/c has small ports one side and big the other so need some more unions :(

Two new front flexis genuine vw fitted for sum of £10 delivered :)
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Post by: Neo Badness on 02 July 2012, 12:46
What I want to know is where is the 23mm vs 22mm?

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Post by: tech1889 on 07 July 2012, 15:32
I dont know to be totally honest mate just bought it... looks good and is stubby for if i ever go 1.8t..

More bits on their way..

Thermostat and o-ring... short flexi hose lines so i can finish the brakes off.... fuel filter.. and a few other little bits nothing exciting..
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Post by: tech1889 on 07 September 2012, 20:47
Spent afternoon on the old girl today..

Removed boot plinth checked for rust there was none so replaced screws with stainless items..

Ran some more brake lines now have all new fronts.. The two long ones to rear..

Need to remove rear rubber flexis which are a pain and replace with my new ones.. And run short hard lines at the rear..

Going to maybe remove engine tomorrow and fit pedal box and cable shifter
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Post by: tech1889 on 17 February 2013, 12:39
Pressure now on for the old girl.. Been off the road for just over 2 years.. Im going to Le Mans 24 in June this is my car registered to be taking..

The fight is on...
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Post by: tech1889 on 21 February 2013, 17:16
Just spent the first full day on the golf in as far back as i can remember..

I removed old pedal box which is a right pita... Fitted up the new hydro pedal box.. has anyone else done this as i was under impression it was straight fit which it is but not all the bolts line up the servo ones do and a couple of others but not all just wondered if this was normal..

Also i trimmed up my mk3 shifter box and fitted that so it can be bolted to gearbox..

Sorted out the front brake line clips so they all held in place correctly now which is much neater..

Removed engine again to assist with going hyrdo..

Went to fit new crank angle sensor and found euro car parts had sent me the wrong one  :cry: so on the hunt for another..

Attempted fitting power steering pump to engine and realised im missing a bracket which i may have snapped  :undecided:

Need to order a few parts but other than that progress is going well at the moment.. Need to flat back bulkhead tomorrow and drill the three holes to fit master cylinder then im pretty much 100% done on the hyrdo front just missing the hose from master to slave..

Might actually get this done for Le Mans the race is on  :evil:
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Post by: tech1889 on 22 February 2013, 19:28
Well today went good and bad.. I attempted to drill multiple holes for the master cylinder and it was a right ball ache so spent £15 on a step drill and it made the job a jot easier.. The bulk head is tough steel so got my friend to use a blow torch to heat it up and re-formed it with a hammer just needs a quick lick of paint now.. master cylinder fits great final bolting up tomorrow but very please so far..  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 24 February 2013, 21:00
How car was looking half way through day one and having removed engine

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/golfgtitt_zpse0638c46.jpg)

Day 3 saw us have a bit of fun.. Jacks can only go so high..

Removed the rear bumper to find the back panel straight and relatively rot free except minor under left chassis hole and corners which im happy about..

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/golfgtimk2_zps04be0dd5.jpg)

Jack the rear this high made my car go quite compressed at the front.. spring compressor anyone ??

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac237/tech1889/golfygti_zpsbe5ce634.jpg)
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 24 February 2013, 21:26
Just ordered a few parts to help me along..

- Metal p clips that are rubber lined for my brake lines..
- 8mm Fuel hose to replace the two engine bay ones as too short  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 16 March 2013, 22:08
Well spent another half a day on it a couple of days ago and was pleased with my work..

Managed to finish of the rear brake lines which was a big hill to get over as been doing them for a while but finally fitted all new flexi pipes and solid pipes so much fresher now.. All the brakes are now finally done.. All i need to do is get new discs and pads all round and paint the callipers which will be done when its closer to being finished..

Also i managed to sort my drivers door handle which was just being a pain and you had to wiggle the door to get it to work and was annoying me so removed exterior handle and gave it all a nice clean and regreased..

Also the car had become a shed and was used as storage so i cleaned up some of the inside of the garage and removed more of the inside of the golf and put it in the garage which means i can finish off the inside of the golf without having to navigate around a dash ive removed etc  :smiley:

The car is definitely on the way to being running soon... Hopefully  :smiley:



To Do List -

-Crank Angle Sensor - ECP Sent me the wrong part so need another
-Clutch hydro line
-Check over engine bolts
-Coolant top pipe rubber seal
-Immob delete
-Power steering belt
-Alternator belt
-Inlet Gasket
-Exhaust Gasket
-1.3 Throttle cable
-Front bumper
-Sort front wings
-Fit Exhaust
-Buy various expensive bolts from VW
-Discs and Pads
-Fit my Mk4 Track rod ends..
-Fit Driveshafts with new CV's i have
-New headlight loom as i lost mine  :whistle:


Thats roughly it it probably looks worse than it is but i dont think theres that much just waiting for some money to buy bits from various people  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 21 March 2013, 14:02
Just placed a nice little order in for hopefully the last bits needed for the engine just need to pop to VW for a couple of small bits..

On Route

Crank Angle Sensor
Inlet Gasket
PAS Belt
Alternator Belt
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: Metallix on 21 March 2013, 14:16
Just a note on the crank sensor:

ABF crank sensor from VW is expensive ~£100
& no guarantee that they will last any longer than other brands,
had one fail after 1.5 years service

The ~£30 ones from ECP seem to work just fine.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 21 March 2013, 19:15
Bought mine from vwsonline.com which is recommended by rubjonny and its only £40.. The belts were only like £3 and £6 each.. And gasket like a fiver..

Need to get an exhaust gasket any ideas ?

Atleast someone looks at the thread lol  :grin:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: Metallix on 22 March 2013, 09:07
Ahh  :grin:
I read your post as that you were en route to collect those bits from VW


Which gasket?:
- 4x gasket for manifold to head
- 1x gasket for manifold to downpipe
- 1x gasket for downpipe to decat (if using Mk3 downpipe)

Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 23 March 2013, 14:32
All of the above gaskets I have none
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: Metallix on 23 March 2013, 21:09
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VW-GOLF-MK2-MK3-16V-CORRADO-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD-TO-HEAD-GASKET-C802-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqZ,!lIE6GeLULN!BOluwNVW0!~~60_12.JPG)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK2-MK3-16V-CORRADO-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD-TO-HEAD-GASKET-C802-/190587900476?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c5fec923c


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VW-GOLF-MK2-MK3-8V-16V-CORRADO-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD-TO-DOWN-PIPE-GASKET-C801-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqMOKkUE6QjieT7(BOluwUGRhg~~60_58.JPG)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK2-MK3-8V-16V-CORRADO-EXHAUST-MANIFOLD-TO-DOWN-PIPE-GASKET-C801-/220873986452?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item336d1d9194


The catalyst seal depends on what type yours is.   Take a picture of the Catalyst inlet & post up.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 24 March 2013, 01:36
Yer i looked at them above exhaust gaskets before but ive fitted ones like that to friends cars and they like cardboard i prefer layered metal ones if i can find some.. im not fussed at the moment as its not even running..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tshirt2k on 24 March 2013, 16:50
Those are the standard exhaust gaskets. Run the same on mine.

An ABF downpipe to cat gasket is a large bore 3 bolt MLS gasket.
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 24 March 2013, 21:07
Cheers.. Not needed at the moment need somewhere to delete the immobiliser for me..
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: Len on 25 March 2013, 11:50
Good to see you making progress Dan! :wink:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 25 March 2013, 12:18
Cheers Len will have to pop and see you when it's done  :smiley: hope your well
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: Metallix on 26 March 2013, 09:53
The gaskets for the manifold are fine and very similar to the ones you get from VW.  Can be used again and again.
IMO the layered ones come apart if you have to uncouple the downpipe for any reason.

Immob?  You have immob ECU but no box/transponder/key/chip?
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 26 March 2013, 12:34
Yes I broke the mk3 and forgot to get them bits before scrapping it two years ago
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: Len on 27 March 2013, 12:52
Cheers Len will have to pop and see you when it's done  :smiley: hope your well

Yep very well thanks!
Next time you come down my way give me a bell.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dan's mk2 8v to ABF project **Build For Le Mans??**
Post by: tech1889 on 02 April 2013, 23:04
Will do then..

Spent a few hours on the beat today after i got home from Marrakech last night.. The parts i ordered from VWS arrive but the alternator belt and PAS belt were wrong sizes so need to call them up and get them replaced..

I fitted my new crank sensor.. Refitted the engine.. drive shafts fitted to make sure i had right ones these will be removed and my new CV joints fitted.. Fitted mk4 golf track rod ends as these are about 15mm or so longer so fit mk2 track rods with the mk3 hubs.. Fitted my new(used) metal coolant pipe.. Fitted the gear linkage to the box and all my gears engage fine..

Still need a clutch pipe  :angry: and a mk3 reservoir.. Once these come the brakes and clutch can be bled..


Tomorrow will see hopefully another day on the golf if the weather holds out.. I will try and sort some more engine bay stuff out and spend the day on wiring..