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Offline vwprime

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Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« on: 08 May 2010, 12:47 »
I have fitted one of these Race Diagnostic Liquid Golf gauges http://racediagnostics.com/cms/index.php?page=liquidgolf-options and have usually been quite accurate. Had it on the car when I only had a FMIC and it was getting to about 156 bhp. When I put K03s the max I got was 170, but usual driving was 165. I have know put on the de-cat and Miltek R32 exhaust and the other day I got a whopping 193 bhp from it  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :laugh: :grin: :cool:
So to recap:-
Standard car             150 bhp
+ a FMIC                 156 bhp
+ K03s                     170 bhp
+ de-cat & Exhaust  193 bhp

Now I Know there will be a little inconsistent with this but all the time I think the gauge has been not to fare away from the truth looking at a lot of other post from people.
The car has not been mapped in any way.

I do find it hard to believe that a standard 150 golf without a map can get to this figger without a map and if I was to read some else do this I'm not shore if I would believe them, but this it true.
I had to take a photo of it to make shore I sore it right.
I have done a few other runs as I thort it might be a once off but have had two more attempts where I have got it to 190 and 192.
 Here is a photo of the figger from my car I got the other day. This is in my car and no one eles.
« Last Edit: 08 May 2010, 12:51 by vwprime »
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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #1 on: 08 May 2010, 12:57 »
Ive had my liquid gauge in the rolling road mode while the car was on a rolling road it read 5bhp higher than the RR and 15ftlb torque lower than the RR so not that far out.
get your car on a RR and see what it puts out. also get it R-Tech'd and see 230bhp :evil:
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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #2 on: 08 May 2010, 17:54 »
Your doing boost runs on the K03s with a standard K03 map !?

It will underfuel after 2.5k RPM.

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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #3 on: 08 May 2010, 18:23 »
hi i have one of these mine reads 210 bhp when pushing hard
but mines had a remap (r-tech)
miltek catback 4 motion style
Evolution Induction Kit
Forge Tip
Forge DV
on the rolling road produced 214 bhp
mine has just come back from having the new software installed
so i would tend to belive the readings

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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #4 on: 08 May 2010, 18:59 »
Your doing boost runs on the K03s with a standard K03 map !?

It will underfuel after 2.5k RPM.

That right Jordy. Stock ECU from VW.

@Jake
That good to hear also mate. I need to get my ass down to R-tech and get my baby mapped. Should be intresting to see what she does then :)
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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #5 on: 08 May 2010, 21:21 »
Well you know you need to stop driving it through rev range mate otherwise youll end up with a hole in your piston crown.

I asked Nick when i did mine and he just said to stay out of boost until its mapped.


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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #6 on: 08 May 2010, 23:21 »
how accurate is it with AGU, only if it works???

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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #7 on: 08 May 2010, 23:26 »
with the latest software they work on AGU engines but the accuracy is roughly the same... they seem to be + - 15ish on both bhp and torque, which isn't bad i suppose. The 0-60 and 1/4 mile simulation testing with vagcom is a much more fun way of keeping an eye on the car's performance though :grin:

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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #8 on: 08 May 2010, 23:58 »
Well you know you need to stop driving it through rev range mate otherwise youll end up with a hole in your piston crown.

I asked Nick when i did mine and he just said to stay out of boost until its mapped.



I hear what you are saying mate and will do that :). The truble is its so much fun  :grin:
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Re: Massive suspicion on BHP. Can it be trusted?
« Reply #9 on: 09 May 2010, 10:09 »
Well you know you need to stop driving it through rev range mate otherwise youll end up with a hole in your piston crown.

I asked Nick when i did mine and he just said to stay out of boost until its mapped.



I hear what you are saying mate and will do that :). The truble is its so much fun  :grin:
Aye its fun but will be major expensive if you hole a piston crown  :sad: :tongue:
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