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Title: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 07 May 2010, 23:50
As per the title whilst sorting the sai pump tonight gave it a scan on vag-com and the good old 17705 codes appeared again  :sad: so had a look round while under the car and found that the pressure hose to the pancake pipe was covered in oil i cleaned this ages ago and it seems worse now  :sad: so i'm thinking this could be the cause also looks swollen at the bottom jubille clip area where it joins the pipe to the pancake hose had a look on etka and the pipes the best part of £70  :cry: at least so looks like it'll stay put for awhile yet has anybody changed that pipe/hose seems ok but not much room and as far as i can see the top part has like a clip/metal ring fixing and no jubille clip??
help and advise appreciated please
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: richw911 on 08 May 2010, 08:35
As per the title whilst sorting the sai pump tonight gave it a scan on vag-com and the good old 17705 codes appeared again  :sad: so had a look round while under the car and found that the pressure hose to the pancake pipe was covered in oil i cleaned this ages ago and it seems worse now  :sad: so i'm thinking this could be the cause also looks swollen at the bottom jubille clip area where it joins the pipe to the pancake hose had a look on etka and the pipes the best part of £70  :cry: at least so looks like it'll stay put for awhile yet has anybody changed that pipe/hose seems ok but not much room and as far as i can see the top part has like a clip/metal ring fixing and no jubille clip??
help and advise appreciated please

Dont you have silicone boost hoses? If not get them  :laugh:
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 08 May 2010, 11:02
As per the title whilst sorting the sai pump tonight gave it a scan on vag-com and the good old 17705 codes appeared again  :sad: so had a look round while under the car and found that the pressure hose to the pancake pipe was covered in oil i cleaned this ages ago and it seems worse now  :sad: so i'm thinking this could be the cause also looks swollen at the bottom jubille clip area where it joins the pipe to the pancake hose had a look on etka and the pipes the best part of £70  :cry: at least so looks like it'll stay put for awhile yet has anybody changed that pipe/hose seems ok but not much room and as far as i can see the top part has like a clip/metal ring fixing and no jubille clip??
help and advise appreciated please

Dont you have silicone boost hoses? If not get them  :laugh:
not on those hoses no  :laugh: i'll have a look at forge then  :wink:
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: richw911 on 08 May 2010, 11:04
As per the title whilst sorting the sai pump tonight gave it a scan on vag-com and the good old 17705 codes appeared again  :sad: so had a look round while under the car and found that the pressure hose to the pancake pipe was covered in oil i cleaned this ages ago and it seems worse now  :sad: so i'm thinking this could be the cause also looks swollen at the bottom jubille clip area where it joins the pipe to the pancake hose had a look on etka and the pipes the best part of £70  :cry: at least so looks like it'll stay put for awhile yet has anybody changed that pipe/hose seems ok but not much room and as far as i can see the top part has like a clip/metal ring fixing and no jubille clip??
help and advise appreciated please

Dont you have silicone boost hoses? If not get them  :laugh:
not on those hoses no  :laugh: i'll have a look at forge then  :wink:

Do you mean the main pipe the goes to the pancake from the TB?

Which hoses have you changed to silicone then bud?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: Rhyso on 08 May 2010, 11:08
I think Pat has replaced his with a part from the AGU - something about the fitting being more robust  :undecided:
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: Big Tone on 08 May 2010, 11:48
When you say pressure hose, do you mean the one from the stainless pipe to the pancake pipe? the one with the crap o-ring fitment?

If so, I sorted this leak out by removing material from the lugs on the stainless pipe, so that the o-ring sits further in and seals better, then with a bit of jiggerypojery with a small ball-pein bent the lower lugs to "clamp" the pipe tightly into position.
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 08 May 2010, 13:01
As per the title whilst sorting the sai pump tonight gave it a scan on vag-com and the good old 17705 codes appeared again  :sad: so had a look round while under the car and found that the pressure hose to the pancake pipe was covered in oil i cleaned this ages ago and it seems worse now  :sad: so i'm thinking this could be the cause also looks swollen at the bottom jubille clip area where it joins the pipe to the pancake hose had a look on etka and the pipes the best part of £70  :cry: at least so looks like it'll stay put for awhile yet has anybody changed that pipe/hose seems ok but not much room and as far as i can see the top part has like a clip/metal ring fixing and no jubille clip??
help and advise appreciated please

Dont you have silicone boost hoses? If not get them  :laugh:
not on those hoses no  :laugh: i'll have a look at forge then  :wink:

Do you mean the main pipe the goes to the pancake from the TB?

Which hoses have you changed to silicone then bud?  :smiley:
no its the one from the metal charge pipe to pancake pipe fitment
silicone ones on mine are the t.i.p and all hoses for vac when i deleted the N249
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 08 May 2010, 13:05
I think Pat has replaced his with a part from the AGU - something about the fitting being more robust  :undecided:
Your correct rhys  :wink: been reading the link you posted about the 17705 and the aum pipe is £65 just for that  :shocked: and he had to mod it to fit from what i understand the agu fitment deletes the 'c' clip fitting that the aum one has  :laugh: and uses jubilee/mikolor clamp fitments but is slightly longer and diff shape hence the modding
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 08 May 2010, 13:07
When you say pressure hose, do you mean the one from the stainless pipe to the pancake pipe? the one with the crap o-ring fitment?

If so, I sorted this leak out by removing material from the lugs on the stainless pipe, so that the o-ring sits further in and seals better, then with a bit of jiggerypojery with a small ball-pein bent the lower lugs to "clamp" the pipe tightly into position.
That's the very  one  :sad:
Agu's have a jubilee fitment on theirs while the Aums have as you say the crappy c-clip/o'ring fitment  :huh:
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 08 May 2010, 13:12
After looking into all of this i'm certain my boost leak is from the pipe/hose  :angry: so i have rang vw and ordered up a new pipe
(http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr22/mjwvag20vt/IMG_3931.jpg)
£27ish
andmines leaking from the 'c' clip/o'ring  :cry:
(http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr22/mjwvag20vt/IMG_2279.jpg)
not my pipe tho  :grin: mines a right state  :rolleyes:
so pipe should be collected along with all the clips etc next friday and i gather its a pita to get at so i'l remove the metal charge pipe and fit the new hose this way and fasten from under the car (hopefully) :afro: then see if this clears the 17705  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: Steve_PD on 08 May 2010, 13:32
sh!tty clip design :angry:
this was one of mine

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/golf/17042009239.jpg)

this is my pancake pipe now after it blew off going to santa pod

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/golf/12042010195.jpg)

be f**ked if that is coming off
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: Big Tone on 08 May 2010, 13:39
I ordered and fitted a new pipe, still leaked.. keep the o ring from the old and mod as i said, use the new pipe and old o-ring as the new pipe (REV C) has better lugs on it than the old one.

No problem man!
Title: Re: Whilst sorting the sai pump
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 09 May 2010, 09:55
sh!tty clip design :angry:
this was one of mine

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/golf/17042009239.jpg)

this is my pancake pipe now after it blew off going to santa pod

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/golf/12042010195.jpg)

be f**ked if that is coming off
:shocked: top pics bad don't think mines in a state like that
looking at your mod steve i don't think it will  :grin: when you put the screws in i take it you drilled through the rubber hose and into the pipe