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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #360 on: 09 April 2023, 13:31 »
I can't imagine the discs/calipers being smaller on the S3 than the Clubby or the R.

I have a pretty shocking memory. I can’t remember nine tenths of my family’s birthdays, I have no idea where I put the cheese grater last time I used it and generally I can never remember what I had for tea the day before never mind any other day in the week…

BUT I do randomly remember weird little details about cars. For instance I can remember just about every interior trim change in the MK2 Golf GTI’s lifetime (there were quite a few believe it or not) and other odds and sods like that.
This leads me to - I’m sure I saw that the current Audi S3 has smaller brakes than the Clubby and mk8R more akin to the previous generation S3 and 7R/7GTI PP.
I might be wrong but then again I might not be.


Oh and as for the service plans, the Audi techies use more expensive nitrile gloves, that’s where your money goes.
(Maybe Audi include more things as my £269 covered two oil changes and bugger all else. VW also dropped on me at the 2nd service that the aircon and brake fluid were also due to be changed and then a few weeks later told me the Haldex aldo needed doing at 2 years which may or may not account for the difference if Audi include stuff like that, and use a nicer air freshener when they Hoover and wash your car)

Not sure about the backs, but seemingly the 8R and 8Y S3 (probably the Clubby too, but couldn't confirm) have the same OEM 357mm x 34mm drilled and vented front discs.

If that's correct, those 14" discs need a caliper protrusion of probably no more than 35mm to fit that within the internal diameter of that 18" space saver. Seems an incredibly tight fit for the standard 18" rims of the R, Clubby or S3, but if 18" alloys should fit, an 18" spacesaver with the right offset should also fit.

As for the servicing costs, seems perhaps marginally cheaper than turn up on the day prices for the minor and major services,no big savings buying the pack, unlike the VW service pack offerings you'd be mad not to take up.

Scope of works seems the same - definitely excludes aircon (who needs a re-gas after 2 years anyway?), doesn't explicitly exclude brake fluid, doesn't mention to include it either, so probably doesn't include it. Would definitely avoid main dealer rates for stuff like haldex/DSG fluid changes unless they came in near VAG specialist rates.
« Last Edit: 09 April 2023, 14:34 by monkeyhanger »
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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #361 on: 09 April 2023, 21:08 »
Nope, I’m pretty sure the new S3 is still running 340mm fronts.

I decided I’d have a look to satisfy my curiosity and here’s a pic of an S3 front wheel and brake combo. On a mk8 Clubby you’d barely get a wheel weight between the rim and calliper when using 18” wheels.





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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #362 on: 10 April 2023, 08:47 »
I've been going off mainly brake upgrade websites that state 8R/8Y S3 OEM discs are the same, so that source is quite possibly wrong. Can't find any confirmation of disc size officially from Audi websites or an Audi forum, so just been looking to compare with similar pics you supplied for "Jarez" 18" R wheels:-




There's not a lot in it either way, seemingly from the pic above, but it does look like the disc and caliper framing are marginally bigger on the Golf, with no drilling on the S3's discs. Makes sense as the R is more "track focussed" with the drift mode etc that the S3 doesn't have. If they are 340s, same as previous gen, then the spare I've been looking at should fit, as I've been told it fits previous gen. I think I'd better hang on until I have the car to be sure.

Your 2 pics do clarify though that red calipers for £290 are a rip off, that they're no bigger than the black ones and the black ones look good enough, especially on a black car.
« Last Edit: 10 April 2023, 09:54 by monkeyhanger »
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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #363 on: 10 April 2023, 15:35 »
I reckon the spare should fit fine but as you say, best wait until the car is with you remove all doubt.

When I got my Clubsport home it came originally on 18’s and I remember thinking I’d need a seagull feather or something to clean between the wheel barrel and calliper it’s that tight!
Unless doing autobahn speeds the difference in braking between drilled 357’s and solid (vented) 340’s should be the sum total of hardly anything. The alu bells on the mk8 brakes are a pain to scrub too.

Oh, and the black callipers won’t show brake dust as badly as red too. The black callipers on my old R were much more forgiving on wash day than the red GTI brakes.
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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #364 on: 10 April 2023, 18:19 »
I miss the clubsport brakes after switching to my Formentor VZ2310. Definitely noticable

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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #365 on: 10 April 2023, 20:19 »
I reckon the spare should fit fine but as you say, best wait until the car is with you remove all doubt.

When I got my Clubsport home it came originally on 18’s and I remember thinking I’d need a seagull feather or something to clean between the wheel barrel and calliper it’s that tight!
Unless doing autobahn speeds the difference in braking between drilled 357’s and solid (vented) 340’s should be the sum total of hardly anything. The alu bells on the mk8 brakes are a pain to scrub too.

Oh, and the black callipers won’t show brake dust as badly as red too. The black callipers on my old R were much more forgiving on wash day than the red GTI brakes.

Mines coming on red calipers because its a stock car and the dealership ticked that box. Really not sure why though - £290 for a luck of red paint instead of black is pure robbery, it's half the cost of the metallic paint cost for the car! Lots of odd discrepancies in price between the VAG marques - A3 metallic paint price is less than that on the Golf. I think A1's metallic paint is significantly cheaper than the Polo's too, but tge previously mentioned service pack is twice the price. There's just no consistency or logic to it all.
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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #366 on: 10 April 2023, 22:01 »
And I bet you’d never get an explanation as to why they vary costs between their marques even if you got to ask someone further up the food chain.


I miss the clubsport brakes after switching to my Formentor VZ2310. Definitely noticable

Is the Formentor on 340’s?
Are they really that noticeably different or maybe just need bedding in?
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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #367 on: 11 April 2023, 09:14 »
And I bet you’d never get an explanation as to why they vary costs between their marques even if you got to ask someone further up the food chain.


I miss the clubsport brakes after switching to my Formentor VZ2310. Definitely noticable

Is the Formentor on 340’s?
Are they really that noticeably different or maybe just need bedding in?

Only done 600 miles, so may still need some bedding in, but they don’t seem as powerful

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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #368 on: 11 April 2023, 09:46 »
They look like the same sort of sized brakes as on the Clubsport so maybe it’s the low mileage and the extra weight they have to haul down?
In fact they could be even bigger and are Brembo badged



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Or are they these? Hard to tell what size these are but might be 340mm




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Re: What have you bought for your Mk8?
« Reply #369 on: 11 April 2023, 13:36 »
Those bottom ones look tiny, but it depends how big the wheels are. Unlucky on the Bridgestone tyres there, for whoever wheels those are.

In other news, my S3 is in the country, so waiting for it to get to the dealership (a mere 2 miles from Grimsby Docks).
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