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Title: Map Updates
Post by: Nuggsy71 on 28 June 2021, 15:43
New version of maps now available if anyone still bothers !
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Finglonga on 28 June 2021, 16:18
Still the old ones I already have on the VW site?
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 28 June 2021, 16:26
Looks like the update date was for the 21st (June) so that's newer than my version from several months ago.

I'll do the update to my SD card later once I'm home.

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: coolhandluke123 on 28 June 2021, 18:37
Looks like the update date was for the 21st (June) so that's newer than my version from several months ago.

I'll do the update to my SD card later once I'm home.

Is there much to doing the update?
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: rwleigh on 28 June 2021, 19:31
Downloading now, even though I mostly use Waze I like the car to be up to date...  :cool:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 28 June 2021, 19:45
Downloading now, even though I mostly use Waze I like the car to be up to date...  :cool:

Downloading too, as my Nav Pro is still running 2017 maps.

Taking ages though.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Miraclem on 28 June 2021, 19:54
no new maps for my discover media ...still 2020/11/23 release ... on pro have already  2021/06/21.. any idea, when they will launch new maps for discover care?
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 28 June 2021, 21:07
Looks like I'm on v13 and this new update goes to v14.7.

Yes it can be slow and make sure you have loads of free space on your HD to make backups while doing the copying.

Just seen Discover Care, isn't that just a way of automating the download if it detects and update?  You can still do the same thing manually.

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 28 June 2021, 21:56
OK there maybe a problem with upgrading to v14.7 from v13.

You need to check your SD card size, the new version is 16.34 GB and the standard VW card that came with my car is only 16GB, v13 just scraps in at 15.49GB.

As has been highlighted before unfortunately I could only get the upgrades to work using the VW card that came with my car rather than a third party card.

What do others think about asking dealers to see if they have any bigger cards that might give out FoC, effectively the maps are only going to get bigger so I really need a 32GB otherwise I'm going to be stuck on v13 unless I go to map option 2 which should be smaller as it has less countries listed.

Maybe they'll have a few spare now the MK8 has done away with the SD cards for satnav.

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: CS#303 on 29 June 2021, 09:45
Downloading now, even though I mostly use Waze I like the car to be up to date...  :cool:

Ditto!
 :wink:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Finglonga on 29 June 2021, 16:36
Just downloaded and it is the same one I have had since last year.

OK there maybe a problem with upgrading to v14.7 from v13.

Just delete a couple of countries you will not be visiting and it will fit. Had this issue before, I deleted Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine so that if it is stolen and exported they will not be able to find their way home. :laugh: :grin:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: willni on 29 June 2021, 16:40
Just delete a couple of countries you will not be visiting and it will fit. Had this issue before, I deleted Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine so that if it is stolen and exported they will not be able to find their way home. :laugh: :grin:

Really embracing the German origin of the car I see :whistle:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 29 June 2021, 18:04
Can you delete countries from the update folder which you don't want/need??

Thought the update failed if you did this??
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 29 June 2021, 21:21
No don't think so you just need to pick the closest bundle number so suit your needs, obviously number one is all Euro countries, I might now go for number six which has the major countries minus Spain, hopefully that will come in under the 16gb of my current VW card.

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: chas.s on 30 June 2021, 09:39
Just delete a couple of countries you will not be visiting and it will fit. Had this issue before, I deleted Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine so that if it is stolen and exported they will not be able to find their way home. :laugh: :grin:

Really embracing the German origin of the car I see :whistle:

This made me chuckle, thanks Finglonga. Many a true word..........
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 June 2021, 12:00
OK there maybe a problem with upgrading to v14.7 from v13.

You need to check your SD card size, the new version is 16.34 GB and the standard VW card that came with my car is only 16GB, v13 just scraps in at 15.49GB.

As has been highlighted before unfortunately I could only get the upgrades to work using the VW card that came with my car rather than a third party card.

What do others think about asking dealers to see if they have any bigger cards that might give out FoC, effectively the maps are only going to get bigger so I really need a 32GB otherwise I'm going to be stuck on v13 unless I go to map option 2 which should be smaller as it has less countries listed.

Maybe they'll have a few spare now the MK8 has done away with the SD cards for satnav.
Bundle 1 for Discover Nav is 14.7gb so will fit on the VW supplied card. If you download maps and they don't fit the card then you've downloaded the wrong ones. Only Nav Pro units can use normal non VW cards.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 30 June 2021, 13:43
When I unzipped the latest Bundle 1 (21/06/2021) the resulting maps folder was showing as 16.34gb, even my older v13 was only just under the 16gb card limit.

Which Bundle 1 should I download that will fit on my VW card?

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 June 2021, 15:51
When I unzipped the latest Bundle 1 (21/06/2021) the resulting maps folder was showing as 16.34gb, even my older v13 was only just under the 16gb card limit.

Which Bundle 1 should I download that will fit on my VW card?
I've just downloaded Bundle 1 and you are correct, it doesn't fit. I've always downloaded Bundle 1 without any issues so I'm trying a complete format of the card. The card capacity is 15.9gb but the useable space is only 14.9 approx. Will need to download a different bundle with less countries in which I've never had to do. Apologies for doubting you too 👍
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 30 June 2021, 16:22
No problem... always happy if there was trick way of sorting it out.

Shame coz I really don't need the Scandi counties or Iceland but they are all in bundle 1.

Out of interest I might ring my local parts dept to see what they are charging for a bigger card to take v14.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 June 2021, 20:00
They won't have bigger cards, discover Nav just uses a 16gb card. I think it's an error on the map download page, I've checked 12 and 13 and they both come in under the 14.8gb. You also cant delete enough countries to get under the limit either (I tried  :grin:). I've just downloaded Bundle 2 which is 6.4gb 👍
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 02 July 2021, 12:10
Just trying to update my daughters Polo BlueGT and if you pick Bundle 1, it fails as the file size is bigger than the supplied VW 16Gb card?? Seems a bit silly.

Think i'll just download Bundle 6.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 02 July 2021, 13:38
That's what I've ended up doing... shame they couldn't have omitted Iceland and then it might have just been under 16gb.

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: rwleigh on 02 July 2021, 13:59
Just trying to update my daughters Polo BlueGT and if you pick Bundle 1, it fails as the file size is bigger than the supplied VW 16Gb card?? Seems a bit silly.

Think i'll just download Bundle 6.

I'm on Bundle 6, working fine.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 02 July 2021, 14:52
That's what I've ended up doing... shame they couldn't have omitted Iceland and then it might have just been under 16gb.



I'm on Bundle 6, working fine.

Thats what I've done too. Cheers.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: TurboTrev on 02 July 2021, 17:01
I've got an Edition 40 Clubsport with the bog standard navigation package which I bought new in early 2017.  I've never updated the maps as it always seemed far too complicated as I'm useless with this sort of thing. 

Is there a really easy to follow dummies guide (or video) to doing this anywhere as I haven't got a clue where to start?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 02 July 2021, 17:19
First of all, I would back up the maps on the SD card first before doing anything else.

https://app-connect.volkswagen.com/mapupdates/car/

If you choose Golf GTI from 2015, then Discover Nav, then scroll down past all the map bundles there's a PDF guide which walks you through.

I didn't bother with the Discover Care whatever that is, just downloaded the map bundles itself.

Basically download the maps compressed zip file, extract the zip file using 7zip and then copy to SD card.

Don't download bundle 1 as it's too big to fit on the 16gb vw sd card.

Nothing too complicated really.

Have a look here- https://youtu.be/yy9QzVXSJXc

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: rwleigh on 02 July 2021, 18:44
I've got an Edition 40 Clubsport with the bog standard navigation package which I bought new in early 2017.  I've never updated the maps as it always seemed far too complicated as I'm useless with this sort of thing. 

Is there a really easy to follow dummies guide (or video) to doing this anywhere as I haven't got a clue where to start?  Thanks.

Download Bundle 6 from here: https://app-connect.volkswagen.com/mapupdates/download/#download (https://app-connect.volkswagen.com/mapupdates/download/#download)

Extract zip, copy maps folder to SD card... Done.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: TurboTrev on 02 July 2021, 20:11
^^^Thanks both for your efforts to explain which I'm sure to 99.9% of the population would be excellent.  However, when I said dummies guide I meant it in the most literal sense!!  I don't even know how to get a back up of the maps or where the sd card is, never mind following the rest of the instructions!!  Compressed zips and extract zips, who knows!

As you can I see I'm a lost cause so I won't waste anyones time further on this, please ignore my request and carry on with the thread!
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 July 2021, 20:15
^^^Thanks both for your efforts to explain which I'm sure to 99.9% of the population would be excellent.  However, when I said dummies guide I meant it in the most literal sense!!  I don't even know how to get a back up of the maps or where the sd card is, never mind following the rest of the instructions!!  Compressed zips and extract zips, who knows!

As you can I see I'm a lost cause so I won't waste anyones time further on this, please ignore my request and carry on with the thread!
I think you're close to me Trev,I can sort this for you. Drop me a pm. Chris
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 04 July 2021, 20:18
^^^Thanks both for your efforts to explain which I'm sure to 99.9% of the population would be excellent.  However, when I said dummies guide I meant it in the most literal sense!!  I don't even know how to get a back up of the maps or where the sd card is, never mind following the rest of the instructions!!  Compressed zips and extract zips, who knows!

As you can I see I'm a lost cause so I won't waste anyones time further on this, please ignore my request and carry on with the thread!
I think you're close to me Trev,I can sort this for you. Drop me a pm. Chris

Top bloke Chris.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Watts on 04 July 2021, 21:19
^^^Thanks both for your efforts to explain which I'm sure to 99.9% of the population would be excellent.  However, when I said dummies guide I meant it in the most literal sense!!  I don't even know how to get a back up of the maps or where the sd card is, never mind following the rest of the instructions!!  Compressed zips and extract zips, who knows!

As you can I see I'm a lost cause so I won't waste anyones time further on this, please ignore my request and carry on with the thread!
I think you're close to me Trev,I can sort this for you. Drop me a pm. Chris

Top bloke Chris.

+1 for that, very generous.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: joe6 on 04 July 2021, 22:14
Just trying to update my daughters Polo BlueGT and if you pick Bundle 1, it fails as the file size is bigger than the supplied VW 16Gb card?? Seems a bit silly.

Think i'll just download Bundle 6.

New to navigation systems as never had a car with one before. Can the sat nav work with a 32gb card? Would solve the issue with bundle 1.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 04 July 2021, 22:20
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New to navigation systems as never had a car with one before. Can the sat nav work with a 32gb card? Would solve the issue with bundle 1.

I'm pretty sure you can only use an official VW sd card when updating Discover units.

Discover PRO can use any SD card to update.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 04 July 2021, 22:58
There are some 32gb VW cards on eBay but they seem to want silly money for them.

Does seem stupid that the latest Euro 1 update is now larger than most of the standard size cards that came with cars up until the mk8.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 July 2021, 23:06
There are some 32gb VW cards on eBay but they seem to want silly money for them.

Does seem stupid that the latest Euro 1 update is now larger than most of the standard size cards that came with cars up until the mk8.
Bundle 1 download is a mistake. I'm waiting to hear back from the We Connect team although I'm pretty sure I know what they'll say already 😂.
Although I'm intrigued to know why genuine cards are now 32gb like Rudedog has mentioned (£40 is the going rate for them). Have VW realised they can't fit map updates on a 16gb update anymore and just expect existing owners to download one of the smaller ones?
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: joe6 on 05 July 2021, 09:03
It may be possible to use non-vw cards by cloning the original card which may copy the hidden vw partition across. Will do a bit of research.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 July 2021, 09:36
It may be possible to use non-vw cards by cloning the original card which may copy the hidden vw partition across. Will do a bit of research.
I'm sure someone tried this previously and it didn't work.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: joe6 on 05 July 2021, 12:22
It may be possible to use non-vw cards by cloning the original card which may copy the hidden vw partition across. Will do a bit of research.
I'm sure someone tried this previously and it didn't work.
OK thanks for the heads up on this.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: TurboTrev on 05 July 2021, 13:43
^^^Thanks both for your efforts to explain which I'm sure to 99.9% of the population would be excellent.  However, when I said dummies guide I meant it in the most literal sense!!  I don't even know how to get a back up of the maps or where the sd card is, never mind following the rest of the instructions!!  Compressed zips and extract zips, who knows!

As you can I see I'm a lost cause so I won't waste anyones time further on this, please ignore my request and carry on with the thread!
I think you're close to me Trev,I can sort this for you. Drop me a pm. Chris
Many thanks for your offer Chris, very kind of you.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 05 July 2021, 19:11
^^^Thanks both for your efforts to explain which I'm sure to 99.9% of the population would be excellent.  However, when I said dummies guide I meant it in the most literal sense!!  I don't even know how to get a back up of the maps or where the sd card is, never mind following the rest of the instructions!!  Compressed zips and extract zips, who knows!

As you can I see I'm a lost cause so I won't waste anyones time further on this, please ignore my request and carry on with the thread!
I think you're close to me Trev,I can sort this for you. Drop me a pm. Chris
Many thanks for your offer Chris, very kind of you.
no probs just let me know 👍
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 06 July 2021, 12:53
Ive just tried to update a Discovery Pro unit in a 2016 Golf R and it just says no data found/insert valid media or something like that.

Ive downloaded the Discover Pro file, unzipped direct to SD card using 7zip??

I now have a folder named P192 blah blah, with 3 files contained within MIB1, MIB2 and meta info??

Unsure how to proceed now as i dont know what im doing wrong??
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Watts on 06 July 2021, 13:13
You and me madstaff. I've beentrying to do this for a couple of hours now. Downloaded bundle 2 and unzipped it, emptied my SD card but for some reason everytime I try to copy the new maps onto the card it fails. Driving me a bit potty. And of course I'm now in the position of not being able to restore the old data either.....
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Ceefeesh on 06 July 2021, 14:31
Ditto.  :angry:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mb on 06 July 2021, 15:22
You and me madstaff. I've beentrying to do this for a couple of hours now. Downloaded bundle 2 and unzipped it, emptied my SD card but for some reason everytime I try to copy the new maps onto the card it fails. Driving me a bit potty. And of course I'm now in the position of not being able to restore the old data either.....

Did you reformat the card?

I downloaded bundle 2 and unzipped it. I then copied the old folder from the SD card to my laptop (just in case it was needed) and reformatted the SD card. I then copied the new folder onto the SD card.

This is on a mk7.5 with Discovery Media.

I've never had any luck using Discover Care, crashes each time, so just do the above for any updates.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: sjw on 06 July 2021, 15:24
Android Auto ftw






Just being silly, I will update mine at some point (never done it before). However, you guys are making it seem difficult for what should be just copying files to a card (not blaming you, I mean the process should be simple but it appears it isn't)
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Watts on 06 July 2021, 15:34
You and me madstaff. I've beentrying to do this for a couple of hours now. Downloaded bundle 2 and unzipped it, emptied my SD card but for some reason everytime I try to copy the new maps onto the card it fails. Driving me a bit potty. And of course I'm now in the position of not being able to restore the old data either.....

Did you reformat the card?

I downloaded bundle 2 and unzipped it. I then copied the old folder from the SD card to my laptop (just in case it was needed) and reformatted the SD card. I then copied the new folder onto the SD card.

This is on a mk7.5 with Discovery Media.

I've never had any luck using Discover Care, crashes each time, so just do the above for any updates.

Exactly what I'm doing but it gets started then comes up with an error code, 'semaphore errors'. Googled it and there are so many different potential fixes, tried some of the easier ones to no avail. The more complex ones are beyond me.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Ceefeesh on 06 July 2021, 16:32
I have updated my maps successfully several times before. I am not sure what is going wrong but I have reformatted the SD using quick and full formats, downloaded bundle 2, unzipped them to desktop (7.7Gb) and copied back to the SD card. When I reinsert the card into slot 2 and the car tries to read it  I get a message telling me the SD card cannot be found. I’ll try again. My car is a 7.5 with Discover. Media,  too. If I am being stupid in this somebody please help.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 06 July 2021, 16:35
Discover Pro, so I downloaded bundle 1, reformatted a brand new Samsung SD card, unzipped direct to the SD card and I get "cant read media error" or something like that.

Proving a bit troublesome for what is effectively copying a couple of files to an SD card.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Watts on 06 July 2021, 16:49
I'm giving up now, I'm now nav-less and pissed off at having wasted most of a day off with this nonsense. There's just something wrong with the SD card slot on my OH's computer I think, I could copy the files to another folder on the laptop drive no problem. I may just have to buy a card already loaded. V14 bundle 1 32gb cards on ebay for £39.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: joe6 on 06 July 2021, 17:13
Seems to be quite an effort to update the maps so think I will give it a miss at the moment. The latest updates were created in February 2021 so took a while to get on VW website.

I think the reason that only vw cards can be used on discover media is that every card has a unique number (CID) that contains manufacturer info and various other bits of information and cannot be changed - similar to a credit card to identify fraud. Not sure what info is used to match the sat nav to a VW card - must be some form of product ID. Might go back at some other time to see if I can identify the data match used but not this week!!
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: jv on 06 July 2021, 17:33
For discover pro, the card needs to be formatted in NTFS format, copy the extracted files over, plug it in the car and the system should notice new content immediately. It copies the data off and the card can then be removed.

For discover media, you have to use the original card, formatted as FAT32, copy the extracted data over, allowing for the storage limit, plug it in the car and it should notice the card, which has to then stay there for nav to function.

There are detailed docs for both systems on app-connect.volkswagen.com/mapupdates/car

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Watts on 06 July 2021, 17:59
I've ordered an SD card reader to see if it is the SD card slot on the laptop. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 06 July 2021, 18:21
I may have formatted my card to FAT32, when JV says in needs to be NTFS.

The documentation states for Discover Pro - The SD card must be formatted in the "exFAT" or "NTFS" format so that it can be recognized by the Discover Pro.

Discover Media - It is imperative that the card is formatted as a FAT32 partition.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 July 2021, 20:08
I'm not being funny or condescending but I really don't know how so many of you are having trouble doing this. Send me all your cards and I'll update them for you 👍
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Watts on 06 July 2021, 20:41
I'm not being funny or condescending but I really don't know how so many of you are having trouble doing this. Send me all your cards and I'll update them for you 👍

I may well take you up on that, thanks very much. I'm pretty sure I'm doing it right, it's something to do with the card reader on the laptop. Hopefully the seperate card reader going through a USB port will sort it.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 July 2021, 21:01
I'm not being funny or condescending but I really don't know how so many of you are having trouble doing this. Send me all your cards and I'll update them for you 👍

I may well take you up on that, thanks very much. I'm pretty sure I'm doing it right, it's something to do with the card reader on the laptop. Hopefully the seperate card reader going through a USB port will sort it.
👍👍
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Talk-torque on 07 July 2021, 07:23
Last time I updated I used Discovercare, having always done it “manually” before, and it worked very well, so I thought I’d give it another go, despite comments here about it crashing. What it tried to do was install the update of what was there - Europe 1 - which is 16.2 GB. It informed me that my SD card was OK for the task, so I thought I’d trust it. It then took about 4 hours, downloading, processing and trying to install, to decide that, after all, there was insufficient space on my card!

I then went back to the start and selected the cut down Europe bundle, (why did they leave out Spain and Portugal?) which it installed successfully.

Seems like a very poor, neglected “service” from VW.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Ceefeesh on 07 July 2021, 18:27
Is this mcmaddy?  :grin:

I'm not being funny or condescending but I really don't know how so many of you are having trouble doing this. Send me all your cards and I'll update them for you 👍

(https://i.postimg.cc/C1mrzWz2/AFBAC1-E6-B7-A9-41-BC-BB17-D36-B94-BD95-AD.png) (https://postimages.org/) 

Or an idea for his new new enterprise? If my latest attempt fails I may not be joking! £16 - bargain!
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 07 July 2021, 21:02
That looks like Bundle 6 which is easily under the 16gb limit and I've done without any problems... we are all having issues with Bundle 1 which includes Spain & Portugal and is just over 16gb.

Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 July 2021, 21:58
Is this mcmaddy?  :grin:

I'm not being funny or condescending but I really don't know how so many of you are having trouble doing this. Send me all your cards and I'll update them for you 👍

(https://i.postimg.cc/C1mrzWz2/AFBAC1-E6-B7-A9-41-BC-BB17-D36-B94-BD95-AD.png) (https://postimages.org/) 

Or an idea for his new new enterprise? If my latest attempt fails I may not be joking! £16 - bargain!
😂😂 not me.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 08 July 2021, 18:41
Reformatted my card to NTFS and tried again, worked perfectly.

Took about ½ hour or so to update.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Ceefeesh on 08 July 2021, 19:57
Finally success. I don’t know why it didn’t work before.

(https://i.postimg.cc/NjDGYXW4/336756-BE-F319-46-C7-8029-D336-B05425-BA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNtHxNBh)

Just noticed the air con temp, I think my wife must have been feeling cold! In July?
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 08 July 2021, 23:30
I must admit, I think the reason I couldn't get mine to update was not formatting the card,  as detailed in the instructions, to NTFS.

Formatted to NTFS, Nav Pro detected it almost immediately and proceeded to update.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Watts on 21 July 2021, 14:39
Since my update I've noticed that the displayed speed limits are more accurate. Previously it was constantly telling me national speed limit dual carriageways were 60mph and even though I knew they were wrong, it was a bit off putting.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Talk-torque on 22 July 2021, 07:25
Since my update I've noticed that the displayed speed limits are more accurate. Previously it was constantly telling me national speed limit dual carriageways were 60mph and even though I knew they were wrong, it was a bit off putting.

Not had chance to see that, but very pleased it’s now corrected.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: CS#303 on 22 July 2021, 12:50
I just can't get the latest one installed. :angry:
Tried re-downloading it, different USB devices, formatted as NTFS etc.
It sees the new versions, goes through the % bar install thing, takes the usual amount of time, then says its finished, but no reboot and the version info doesn't change.
Its driving me mad, always worked before and I'm not doing anything different.
 :cry:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 July 2021, 13:39
I just can't get the latest one installed. :angry:
Tried re-downloading it, different USB devices, formatted as NTFS etc.
It sees the new versions, goes through the % bar install thing, takes the usual amount of time, then says its finished, but no reboot and the version info doesn't change.
Its driving me mad, always worked before and I'm not doing anything different.
 :cry:
Do you have Pro or Discover Media??
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: CS#303 on 22 July 2021, 15:57
I've got pro.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 July 2021, 21:43
It shouldn't need a reboot afterwards. Once it's installed it automatically shows the new version. This might sound daft but are you sure it hasn't updated. Can you take a picture of the version info and post on here?
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: CS#303 on 23 July 2021, 08:56
Hi Mcmaddy,
Thanks for the replies, I'll take a photo this morning and upload it.
Maybe it has updated, I'm not sure. It certainly doesn't show the same as the pic Ceefeesh uploaded, but his looks like a 7.5 so not sure it should?
I think I'm just confusing myself now  :sick:
Probably missing something really obvious, but great to have a second opinion!
Cheers,
Jason.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 23 July 2021, 10:27
I think the version and part numbers might be different for a pro Nav compared to Discover Nav even though they technically use the same maps.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: CS#303 on 23 July 2021, 12:34
Ah OK, maybe it is done then.
This is what I have:-


(https://i.postimg.cc/tJkJxNXf/IMG-1241-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1Vgyx6Vc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zXDV1671/IMG-1242-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NLVg6NZN)
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 23 July 2021, 14:02
Go to your maps and then settings and then press version information. You should see the same screen as what others have posted up. 👍
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: CS#303 on 26 July 2021, 09:55
Well this is what I have, it still accepts the new data as a valid update, but nothing changes.
I'll assume it's the latest, and leave it as is. I don't really use it anyway  :wink:
Thanks all!
J.


(https://i.postimg.cc/fb1yWjhZ/IMG-1257-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SX7kD9st)
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 July 2021, 11:05
I think if your unit picks up the update and loads it in then it works. It doesn't reset the unit or do anything fancy. 👍
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Finglonga on 18 August 2021, 08:04
Ignore I was talking rubbish. :grin:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 December 2021, 12:29
New maps were released at the end of November if anyone's interested 👍
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Graemehaw on 09 December 2021, 19:36
Hi, can anyone help me with this? My 2014 golf gti has no sd card but maps still work. Is that right?
Also how do I know what my infotainment system is? Is there an easy way to tell?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 09 December 2021, 19:40
Hi, can anyone help me with this? My 2014 golf gti has no sd card but maps still work. Is that right?
Also how do I know what my infotainment system is? Is there an easy way to tell?
Thanks in advance

https://app-connect.volkswagen.com/mapupdates/car/
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Graemehaw on 09 December 2021, 19:45
Thanks
So I have discover pro. Can anyone answer whether the sat should work without any sd card?

Also is there much difference between the discovery Pro on mine and discover pro on a 2017 on? They look totally different
Same updates for both?
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 09 December 2021, 19:53
Thanks
So I have discover pro. Can anyone answer whether the sat should work without any sd card?

Also is there much difference between the discovery Pro on mine and discover pro on a 2017 on? They look totally different
Same updates for both?

Discover pro has an inbuilt HDD where the maps are stored as opposed to the maps being stored on the sd card.

I used a Samung sd card when I updated mine.

If you select the "until 2015" from the drop down menu it will guide you to the correct download.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: ProtoCulture on 16 December 2021, 23:01
Thanks for this, while I always use Google Maps, there is something satisfying knowing that you're up to date. Or is that just my OCD?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Daz1981 on 05 January 2022, 11:33
im a newbe on here.    i came on here today to see hhow to update maps on my mk7 gtd and after reading comments I gave it a go.    strait forward at first.
got the sd card out of car
downloaded the vw update software and it was lituarualy doing it for me minus the clicking of buttons that said it was doing a full Europe update.
(presume that's cos I'm on V4 maps)    asked where i wanted to save a backup again saw that on here so I selected a new folder to save that too.
then started the new update download once it got to installing it stopped and said not enough space on disk please clear data... 
so I located the disk manually and formatted it as to suggestions in a few comments after this the program wouldn't let me continue as it said no sd card found.     
so I closed the program and opened the backup to find the backup that was there has also disappeared now I'm stuck with no back up no maps just an empty sd card..... if there anyone on here that can help me
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: madstaff on 05 January 2022, 12:45
The stupid thing is the complete map update is bigger than the VW supplied SD card assuming you've not got Nav Pro??

If the SD card you removed is a VW one i would presume it's not Nav Pro.

Format the card again and try downloading another map bundle, I think I used bundle 6 which fits on the card and try again.

Can't remember if it needs to be FAT32 or NTFS but it tells you that in the download instructions.

Make sure your selecting the correct maps for your head unit as Nav Pro ones are different I think.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Daz1981 on 09 January 2022, 00:19
i have got a bigger sd card to take the bundle new maps,   the issue im having is iv downloaded the vw software and formatted the sd card the software does most of the work.  :takes frigging 2 hrs to down load every time i try to do it..  once down loaded it then verifies the download and starts the install  then come up saying error and to retry   which means 2 hrs of downloading again..     pissing me off now as not only has it wiped my origanal maps from 2014 iv spent money getting a bigger card to take the new maps and it doesnt work..   

need help fellow members   
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Finglonga on 09 January 2022, 09:42
You can only use a VW card. It shoudln't be too big unlsess you are downloading the wrong maps. Are you updating Media or Pro?
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Rudedog on 09 January 2022, 10:03
Exactly... at first I tried several 32gb cards but realised the updates only worked on an original VW branded card.  As far as I know the last Bundle 1 map to fit on a 16gb card was version 13 (this came with my 2019 GTi), the closest you can get now is Bundle 6 on v15.7 unless you need Spain which it doesn't include.

I've never used the download software, just download to your desktop then drag/drop to the SD card, yes it does take a while depending on your laptop/PC.

I'm sure you can get a 32gb VW card from EBay if you're willing to pay what some are asking for them, not sure if dealers still have any, I suspect if you're a computer whizz then you could clone the VW setup.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mustard on 09 January 2022, 10:04
The stupid thing is the complete map update is bigger than the VW supplied SD card assuming you've not got Nav Pro??

If the SD card you removed is a VW one i would presume it's not Nav Pro.

Format the card again and try downloading another map bundle, I think I used bundle 6 which fits on the card and try again.

Can't remember if it needs to be FAT32 or NTFS but it tells you that in the download instructions.

Make sure your selecting the correct maps for your head unit as Nav Pro ones are different I think.

It is NTFS, if you format it to FAT32, it doesn't fit as the download size says it is 16GB and the card is only 14GB
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: joe6 on 09 January 2022, 10:54
Exactly... at first I tried several 32gb cards but realised the updates only worked on an original VW branded card.  As far as I know the last Bundle 1 map to fit on a 16gb card was version 13 (this came with my 2019 GTi), the closest you can get now is Bundle 6 on v15.7 unless you need Spain which it doesn't include.

I've never used the download software, just download to your desktop then drag/drop to the SD card, yes it does take a while depending on your laptop/PC.

I'm sure you can get a 32gb VW card from EBay if you're will to pay what some are asking for them, not sure if dealers still have any, I suspect if you're a computer whizz then you could clone the VW setup.

 Cloning does not work. There are hidden bytes that won't copy across and are not visible. They are a part of the sd card manufacturing process. Tried it myself  :sad:
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 January 2022, 15:57
Can't believe after 8 years this is still a discussion. Download the update, unzip the file using 7zip, make a copy of your original card, move the unzipped data across to the root of the SD card. All of the information is clearly stated on the VW navigation page. Bundle 6 fits on original 16gb VW SD cards and bundle 1 now doesn't unless you buy a new VW 32gb card. The SD card must be formatted in Fat32 not NTFS as previously said.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: mustard on 10 January 2022, 09:03
Can't believe after 8 years this is still a discussion. Download the update, unzip the file using 7zip, make a copy of your original card, move the unzipped data across to the root of the SD card. All of the information is clearly stated on the VW navigation page. Bundle 6 fits on original 16gb VW SD cards and bundle 1 now doesn't unless you buy a new VW 32gb card. The SD card must be formatted in Fat32 not NTFS as previously said.
My original VW card is only 14.2 GB and the download is 16, so no way will it fit, always get a checksum error if I use FAT32, but when I use NTFS, works every time, so I guess both work, but I have saved myself from buying a new card at extortionate VW prices.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Hertsman on 22 March 2022, 16:11
Just updated my map to version 1810 and had to select map 2 due to size, which as highly unlikely to go to any of the countries omitted or actually any other country than UK, was fine to do.

Achieved this on Chromebook also, as both windows laptops in this house are company encrypted.

Was pretty simple, downloaded the zip, unzipped it with an App called RAR, backed up the existing map, and then deleted it off the SD Card, and replaced it with the extracted map version. Never bothered in my GTD or R, so first time done it and was expecting more issues especially on a Chromebook, but thankfully fears unfounded.

Reason did this, was due to driving out to Clacton yesterday and whole new bypass had my Sat Nav panicking that I was going off piste and into some fields.
Title: Re: Map Updates
Post by: Hertsman on 22 March 2022, 16:13
Thanks for this, while I always use Google Maps, there is something satisfying knowing that you're up to date. Or is that just my OCD?  :whistle:

Its good to have the sat nav in the driver display, but sometimes still use the Car Play Google Maps when think destination off the beaten track (grassroots football coach and some of these pitches are in most random of places!)