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Offline mike_f

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19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« on: 17 September 2015, 12:46 »
Hi,

Anyone else having bother with the 19" Santiagos. I have had some issues with vibration driving at high speed and VW have confirmed that all 4 of my wheels are buckled..

No damage to the tyres (punctures, bulges etc) and no impact damage to the rims. I cant recall hitting anything so I am at a loss as to how I have managed to total 4 wheels.

Wished I had just bought the 18s and saved some $$ and had some rubber to actually protect the wheel.

Reckon they may have made them too lightweight to try and get good consumption/emissions results!!

Anyone else have any bother with them? Absolute joke if I have to replace 4 new wheels not covered by warranty.

Mike

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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #1 on: 17 September 2015, 13:01 »
That's not good.  :sad:  Even if you had hit something, the chances of all 4 wheels buckling is remote, surely.  Maybe the were a defective batch?

If tyres and rims are unmarked worth arguing that there must be an issue with the wheels and the warranty route.  Good luck in getting somewhere with VW.
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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #2 on: 17 September 2015, 15:10 »
VW already saying there is nothing wrong with the wheels.....

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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #3 on: 17 September 2015, 15:13 »
All 4?! and with no visible damage to the tyres or the wheels?!

How have they worked all this out?
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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #4 on: 17 September 2015, 15:22 »
How many miles have you done?
Unless you've been driving on rally stages there's little chance all four will be damaged so a second opinion would be an idea.

The Santiagos have all those little extra spokes to strengthen the wheels further so should be pretty tough really.
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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #5 on: 17 September 2015, 16:20 »
Everything is fine with my Santiagos (apart from some kerbing on one wheel :().

Who has said they're all buckled?

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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #6 on: 17 September 2015, 17:00 »
I've had it into a few VW garages all all said the same, at first it was only 2 out the 4 (front ones). When I complained to VW UK the managed or the local garage agreed to give me a set from the demonstrator to try to check the vibration was off the car.

VW have my wheels at the moment and now saying they have given them to a "specialist" and all 4 have buckles in them (to varying degrees).

Can has done about 28k miles - was one of the very first ones in the garage in 2013 so an early batch of alloys probably.

Mostly motorway driving or round town/low speeds.

Very disappointing if this is the strength of the alloys.
 
Will see what they say.. Seems a dodgy one and one they have to take seriously.

Disappointing though that all conversations I have had with them their opening line is "VW has sent a bulletin to advise that garages cannot replace wheels with buckles under warranty"

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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #7 on: 17 September 2015, 20:15 »
Had a similar thing happen to two of my Santiago's... Didn't detect any vibration whilst driving but I did notice that I was constantly losing tyre pressure on both rear wheels.

At first I thought it was down to a slow puncture, but when I took the wheels off to inspect further I noticed both had buckled.

I can remember running over a couple of "shallow" potholes at some point that could have contributed to them buckling, but at the time I thought nothing of it.

I've had numerous other 19" (& 20") alloys on other vehicles over the years but I've never had this problem before.  Maybe I was just unlucky in this instance?



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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #8 on: 17 September 2015, 23:35 »
Should have got the Cadiz  :whistle: Only kidding I love my Nogaro's but if I had an R I would have went for the Cadiz
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Re: 19" Santiago Problems - all 4 buckled
« Reply #9 on: 18 September 2015, 11:32 »
Funny enough... I'm currently waiting delivery of a Golf R and have decided to stick with the original 18" Cadiz wheel rather than the 19" Pretorias.  Hopefully the smaller diameter wheel is "less" prone to buckling (although I suppose there's no guarantee)
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