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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: 2007GTI on 30 June 2017, 20:52

Title: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: 2007GTI on 30 June 2017, 20:52
I test drove a MK7.5 GTI this week, it had 18's on it, I found the ride really crashy and uncomfortable and it had DCC and I played with the settings, I must admit not very good London roads.

This is a crazy idea I know, but I just wondered if anyone has put 17" wheels on a Mk7? I had 17s on my Mk5 and it was fine!
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: Exonian on 30 June 2017, 21:00
They come as standard with 17's in many markets.
However I suspect the issue here is the car still had the transport pucks in the suspension.
Try another car.
I've had 4 mk7's (yes, I have a problem and I'm seeking professional help) and driven numerous others and even with no ACC they ride reasonably well for sports hatches.
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: Watts on 30 June 2017, 21:00
Sounds odd, I'm on 19s, live in London, no DCC and I find the ride 90% of the time to be excellent. Perhaps there was something not right about it?
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: Daz Auto on 30 June 2017, 22:22
I test drove a MK7.5 GTI this week, it had 18's on it, I found the ride really crashy and uncomfortable and it had DCC and I played with the settings, I must admit not very good London roads.

This is a crazy idea I know, but I just wondered if anyone has put 17" wheels on a Mk7? I had 17s on my Mk5 and it was fine!

There is a video on the subject here - http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/The-differences-between-17-18-and-19-inch-tyres.htm

I drive a Mk6 GTD with 17 inch alloys and adjustable suspension. I found the Mk7 GTD on 18inch uncomfortable, but it had no DCC. Though, the GTD I tested with DCC really did smooth out the ride much better.

Changing the OEM Bridgestone tyres would probably help too.

At the end of the day it is sports suspension with 18 inch low profile tyres. It is never going to be as comfortable as our other car with normal suspension and 16 alloys. However, our other car does not handle like a performance Golf.

Did you notice any change in comfort when you changed the DCC settings? Are you sure you changed DCC and not just 'drive mode'.

(https://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/vw-golf-gti-uk-8.jpg?itok=yAUXiQcs)
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: 2007GTI on 30 June 2017, 22:32
Thanks all.

The car had 500 miles on it, so I doubt it had the transport pucks left on it, but it did cross my mind afterwards. I test drive a 63 plate a year ago and it wasn't as bad.

I didn't notice much difference changing the DCC, but it was only a 20 min test drive.

I've gone off the idea of a new one now anyway, so will try and find a another second hand one to try.
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: Don76 on 30 June 2017, 23:05
I've got a 7.5 GTD on 19s and the ride is superb albeit with no DCC.
Defo try another car.
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: Eccie on 30 June 2017, 23:19
I test drove a MK7.5 GTI this week, it had 18's on it, I found the ride really crashy and uncomfortable and it had DCC and I played with the settings, I must admit not very good London roads.

This is a crazy idea I know, but I just wondered if anyone has put 17" wheels on a Mk7? I had 17s on my Mk5 and it was fine!

To answer your question I run 17" wheels on my GTi pp, so they do fit over the big brakes. They have winter tyres on and the ride is definitely softer due to the smaller wheels and softer compound tyres.

I have DCC on my car & run it in comfort setting most of the time (on 18" summer wheels & tyres) as others have said and speaking from experience of Bridgestones, Choice of tyre makes a difference. That did I'm surprised you found the ride uncomfortable I think that VW (or the chap they had in from Porsche to fine tune the suspension) did a very good job.
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: JoeGTI on 01 July 2017, 00:56
17's are standard in lots of markets, including the fatherland Germany. So no issue with fitment. Obviously the ride will be much better but will look a lot worse (imo). Large wheels are always a compromise on looks versus comfort.
I've always maintained that the Golf even on 19's rides perfectly fine. But then this week I had a spin in a new e-Golf (don't ask) and it was like riding on a magic carpet compared to my R. So yeah, 19's on a Golf are very harsh, there's no getting away from it.
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: fredgroves on 01 July 2017, 08:33
The GTD Blueline comes with 17's as standard  - other than that its a normal GTD.

Therefore, 17's go on just fine...

As others have said, in Germany a GTI comes with hardly anything, including 17's as standard. Mind you, it does only cost something like 14000 euros or something.
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: 2007GTI on 01 July 2017, 09:12
Thanks again all.

From googling around I found this thread in the USA, the roads in NJ sound like London!

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20482
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: 2007GTI on 01 July 2017, 09:32
Just looked on German VW configurator and I quite like the 17" version, I just looked on eBay, couldn't see them, anyone know the wheel name or part number?

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Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: SRGTD on 01 July 2017, 10:03
They are Brooklyn's. Part number; 5G0601025AR.

Size; 7.5j x 17
Offset; ET49
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: 2007GTI on 01 July 2017, 10:06
thank you SRGTD
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: Daz Auto on 01 July 2017, 10:24
Unfortunately, you cannot just add 17inch alloys to a UK car. The dealers have no way of doing it. So you would have to buy them yourself as a second set of alloys and tyres. I would estimate that would cost around £1200.

I have DCC on my car & run it in comfort setting most of the time (on 18" summer wheels & tyres) as others have said and speaking from experience of Bridgestones, choice of tyre makes a difference.
Changing the Bridgestone tyres on my Mk6 made a very noticeable difference to both the road noise and ride comfort. I am already planning to spend £400 on a new set of Michelin PS4s when the new car arrives.
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: 2007GTI on 01 July 2017, 10:47
Thanks, I am talking about adding them to a second hand car.  I have found a set on German Ebay for £600-£700. Thanks for tyre advice.

Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 July 2017, 15:19
The GTD Blueline comes with 17's as standard  - other than that its a normal GTD.

Therefore, 17's go on just fine...

As others have said, in Germany a GTI comes with hardly anything, including 17's as standard. Mind you, it does only cost something like 14000 euros or something.

Was bored and went on the Konfigurator at volkwagen.de.

So a GTI 3dr DSG facelift in metallic paint is 32500 Euros. That's with 17" wheels, no AID, no App Connect and an old style basic nav screen (not the new glass one thats std here as thats another 1400 euros!).

So basically we are getting a pretty good deal here!
Title: Re: Smaller wheels on MK7
Post by: fredgroves on 04 July 2017, 16:12
Falling pound vs euro exchange rates and higher German taxes on the sale of the vehicle I guess...

It did used to be much cheaper, but that we before we crashed our currency :D