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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: fifthflaw on 19 August 2013, 22:33
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Hi all
I have been getting quotes on a couple of mk7s over last couple of days. They are coming in around £360 pm on a 4 year pcp with my deposit and part ex (considering changing to 3 years actually). Both cars have winter pack, and nav.
Both dealers have asked what it would take to get me to buy their car and are aware I am speaking to the other. Problem is I have no idea what to ask for in terms of discount/sweeteners. Can anyone give me some tips?
Thanks in advance
Ff
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Well on a factory order it's between 5%-12.5% pretty much. So I would be wanting at least the upper end of that for a pre-reg showroom model. If it's a demo with mileage then more obviously. Make sure the car is full UK spec with the adaptive cruise control and not one of the early demos that aren't full UK spec.
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Like with anything in life, if you don't ask you don't get, and when you haggle, don't be afraid to be cheeky and ask for way more than you expect. Worst that can happen is they say no, or more likely just offer less of a discount than what you originally asked for. Aside from asking for, say, 10% discount, ask about things like servicing etc.
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It's a demo with miles on (can't remember how many). Off the top of my head it has the standard uk spec with cruise, dab, etc plus professional nav, winter pack and the adaptive suspension thingy. To be honest I'm absolutely baffled by all the options available so not 100% sure. The screen price is £27900
I take it its not unreasonable to request a 10% discount then? I'm really not the kind of person who is particularly comfortable with haggling although I realise you have to ask to get anywhere. The car comes with 2 years free servicing.
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If it was me, I wouldn't touch a demo with a barge pole. It's been ragged within an inch of its life, or at least that's how I drove the demo I took out.
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To be fair, out of the two cars, one looked like it had hardly been sat in full stop, it was ridiculously immaculate
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Where are the cars you've seen? Pulman have a couple of gtis and three gtds
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To be fair, out of the two cars, one looked like it had hardly been sat in full stop, it was ridiculously immaculate
Benfield Scotswood Road? They had 2 white GTIs in - one a first wave demo without ADC sensor, and another white one with Santiagos which was purely a retail sale car, never left the showroom.
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It's a demo with miles on (can't remember how many). Off the top of my head it has the standard uk spec with cruise, dab, etc plus professional nav, winter pack and the adaptive suspension thingy. To be honest I'm absolutely baffled by all the options available so not 100% sure. The screen price is £27900
I take it its not unreasonable to request a 10% discount then? I'm really not the kind of person who is particularly comfortable with haggling although I realise you have to ask to get anywhere. The car comes with 2 years free servicing.
To be fair, if it has got pro nav, ACC and winter pack, that's almost £3k of options, so the price isn't that bad as a starting point. But, no, of course it's not unreasonable to ask for 10% discount - it's a used car after all. Personally I'd go on at 12.5% discount and see where they go from there. Thing is though, my brand new car with ACC, camera, keyless, winter pack, basic nav, telephone prep and heated screen didn't come to much more than that asking price anyway after my discount...food for thought maybe? All depends if you can stomach the wait.
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To be fair, out of the two cars, one looked like it had hardly been sat in full stop, it was ridiculously immaculate
Benfield Scotswood Road? They had 2 white GTIs in - one a first wave demo without ADC sensor, and another white one with Santiagos which was purely a retail sale car, never left the showroom.
Ones at benfield Silverlink the other is at lookers Middlesbrough. Both have keyless entry by the way.
What's the waiting time on a new one now? Could be worth sing what that comes out at
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fifthflaw: Silverlink? Good luck trying to get a discount out of them. They're my local branch (2 miles away) and I would only put servicing and warranty work my way. Scotswood Road are generally much more open to discounts, forget Carrs of Hexham and the Morpeth branch (also Benfield).
I very much doubt you'd get a new order this side of Christmas now, depends how long you want to wait.
Might be worth checking out Scotswood Road to see if they still have the untouched white GTI in their showroom. They'll be advertising it at top whack for a prospective buyer "to jump the queue", but if it is still there now then they've had it there over 2 months and I suspect they'll be wanting to move it on and get their money back!
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My local dealer won't even sell there demo until January let alone discount it :(
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If it was me, I wouldn't touch a demo with a barge pole. It's been ragged within an inch of its life, or at least that's how I drove the demo I took out.
My old mk6 was x demo and I never had any issues with it to be fair in the 2.5 years I kept it. Although I did get them to replace a curbed monza before I picked up the car.
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The scotswood car wasn't mentioned when they checked group stock. Wasn't impressed with Silverlink. Any experience with lookers?
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Most are selling for list because the demand is now ,plus the dealers want to make the money now ,
not next xmas :laugh:
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Most are selling for list because the demand is now ,plus the dealers want to make the money now ,
not next xmas :laugh:
Yes, the opportunity to "jump the queue" should be a powerful motivator for someone to pay list price.
If I understand right, the dealerships get so long to have the car “on credit” before they have to pay VW UK for it. They hope to sell it in that time rather than buy it out of their own kitty whilst waiting for a buyer. If there is a deal to be done it will be when the car has been with them long enough without a sale for them to want to free up the capital tied up in the car.
Haven’t been to Lookers VW Teesside (Middlesbrough, Newport Road) in a very long time, they used to be very poor for negotiations in Teesside. Always found Sunderland Pulman to be the most receptive to a deal in the North East. In times past they have matched broker deals (based on price to change – lower discount offset by higher p/x allowance), you won’t get that off a GTI/GTD right now. Your best bet is to go broker considering all the best deals with dealerships seem to be drying up, and have always been harder to get with GTD than GTI.
I would definitely give Scotswood Road a bell to see if they still have the showroom GTI (not the demo one). It was Pure White around £29k, and for that I think it had 19” Santiagos, ACC, Nav and keyless.
Pulman might still have an unused specced GTD in (they got 3 in a while back and 2 are being used for demos between the 2 branches).
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Its worth pointing out that most demo's don't have the ADC 'eye' and therefore you need to factor this into your monthly amounts - as your insurance will be higher for a demo than for a GTI with ADC.
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Its worth pointing out that most demo's don't have the ADC 'eye' and therefore you need to factor this into your monthly amounts - as your insurance will be higher for a demo than for a GTI with ADC.
Forgive my ignorance, what is an adc eye?
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Its worth pointing out that most demo's don't have the ADC 'eye' and therefore you need to factor this into your monthly amounts - as your insurance will be higher for a demo than for a GTI with ADC.
Forgive my ignorance, what is an adc eye?
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f254/the_sniper89/Geneva2013/7c1cfec8-64d1-4c82-ba1e-3c556698ec0b.jpg)
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Its worth pointing out that most demo's don't have the ADC 'eye' and therefore you need to factor this into your monthly amounts - as your insurance will be higher for a demo than for a GTI with ADC.
Forgive my ignorance, what is an adc eye?
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f254/the_sniper89/Geneva2013/7c1cfec8-64d1-4c82-ba1e-3c556698ec0b.jpg)
Got it, automatic distance control. I take it this wont be on the demo cars? Expected to make much of a difference to insurance?
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Expected to make much of a difference to insurance?
Word is that the insurance rating is five groups lower than the old model how much of that is down to ADC nobody really knows for sure.
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Easiest way to check is do two separate quotes from the same insurance company, one the 'Launch GTI 2013' and then one a 'GTI 2013 onwards.'
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only the very early gti demos came without ADC. all of the gtd's and later gti's have got ADC.
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I'm assuming this is a very early one as its available very soon. I'll check tomorrow. Lack of adc could be a bargaining tool
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So I ended up getting it for 24995. Picking up on wednesday.
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So I ended up getting it for 24995. Picking up on wednesday.
So which one did you go for in the end (spec)? Benfield, Pulman or Lookers?
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Lookers, who I must say have been really good to deal with thus far. Benfield were sh!te.
Night Blue
5-door
Winter Pack
Keyless entry
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Lookers, who I must say have been really good to deal with thus far. Benfield were sh!te.
Night Blue
5-door
Winter Pack
Keyless entry
Bet if feels good to avoid the factory order wait! How many miles will it have on it? Or was it in the showroom?
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Hi Bill. I didn't really know what car I was going to go far at the end of my current deal and didn't think I'd be able to afford a mk 7 to be honest. So I wasn't really aware of the factory wait until I registered on here. Must be so frustrating.
It has 2.5k on it. It really is immaculate so I'm very pleased with the deal. I've had 2 test drives and these are phenomenally good cars. Massive step forward from the mk 5 I had a few years back.