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Offline Colm

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #260 on: 18 February 2021, 21:34 »
Welcome Colm  :smiley:

I understood what you meant by pliancy!

The first (large) batch of Clubsports that arrived in the UK were standard spec non DCC cars so there won’t be many that have had an opportunity to try a DCC equipped versus non DCC yet.


You can pretty much ignore anything I’ve posted about Clubsport DCC as I’m surmising at best going from assumptions, guesses, reviews and press pack blurb. Basically talking out of my derrière.
I’ve not even tried my own non DCC car on very many roads due to gov’t restrictions.

The Clubsport is a production VW so I’m pretty confident you’ll find it reasonably pliant if you’re accustomed to sports hatch suspension.

As for DSG, hmmm, well most people that try it decide it’s the best invention in the world ever, but although I tolerate it I’m far from a fan of it. To me it’s a box set up for extremes with the middle (normal) setting a bit mushy. Everyone is different, hopefully you’ll fall in the “love it” camp.

Thanks Exonian,
I probably would fit into the tolerate it camp on DSG also, I love heel toe downshifting. What I really want is a circa 300bhp manual hatch that can deal with bumps and compressions in it's stride.

I switched my ST to 18s, added a subtle map (305bhp) and free flow cotton air filter in order to improve the character of the engine and throttle response in Normal mode, which it did. It's much more rev happy now, it was very linear and dull from the factory.

This allows me to leave it in normal mode all the time now (therefore lesser of the the 3 damper settings). The Sport mode is laughably filling rattling.

It's a shame because with a better suspension setup the ST would be the perfect hot hatch for my tastes.

As a result of being happy with engine and throttle response in normal mode now, it's a perfectly comfortable daily, with 305bhp and 470nm. However, show it bumps at higher speeds and it does have a tendency to try and pummel said bumps into submission. This sadly robs alot of the fun from the car, and has me considering alternatives.

I need 5 seats, and couldn't look at the Civic, too old for it anyway, and I really like the look of the Clubsport, so if it could mop up bumps at higher speeds (with DCC and 18s), then it would probably be worth the loss of manual box.

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #261 on: 18 February 2021, 22:03 »
I read what you'd written thinking "buy the Honda" and then saw the bit at the end  :laugh:

The manual box does exclude most cars you could choose. Manual is on its way out before we get to milk floats which don't even have gears.

What about another ST?
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #262 on: 18 February 2021, 22:26 »
I read what you'd written thinking "buy the Honda" and then saw the bit at the end  :laugh:

The manual box does exclude most cars you could choose. Manual is on its way out before we get to milk floats which don't even have gears.

What about another ST?

I have a new model Mk4 Focus ST so there's no point in getting another ST. The mk3.5 isn't a good machine, and I had a mk3 for 5 years (loved that, flawed but enjoyable).

So, probably time for a change, but I agree, it's not easy to find alternatives these days alright!

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #263 on: 18 February 2021, 22:52 »
Probably I'd take a look at the i30n... The sport back version is a touch more adult than the hatch but still very bonkers.

If you've had performance ford's you'll already be used to shocking fuel economy lol.

Probably the hyundai is the most old skool apart from the Honda but without the "just ram raided Halfords" look.

Definitely test drive a clubby but also try the i30n.



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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #264 on: 19 February 2021, 00:07 »
Probably I'd take a look at the i30n... The sport back version is a touch more adult than the hatch but still very bonkers.

If you've had performance ford's you'll already be used to shocking fuel economy lol.

Probably the hyundai is the most old skool apart from the Honda but without the "just ram raided Halfords" look.

Definitely test drive a clubby but also try the i30n.

Oh no, definitely not an i30n!!!. The local Hyundai dealer gave me his demo for a weekend in 2019 prior to ordering my MK4 ST, I was considering it as replacement for my mk3 ST.

It wasn't a sport back obviously, but the hatch is the same DNA. I had high hopes, and the price was great.....   what a disappointment, the engine was really poor, so little low down (only c.350nm in it), axle tramped really badly, and despite all the configuration, none of the modes did a good job at the daily grind stuff, so much road and exhaust noise even in quiet modes, ride was really poor also. It felt like a first effort car, and nowhere near the reviews. It certainly had a fun factor, but overall it's not something I'd recommend. The mk4 ST is streets ahead of it.
The newer model i30n with the altered front suspension is said to ride better, I haven't tried it though.

I test drove a Megane Trophy also, my my what a hoot, felt like our rallycar, undoubtedly the most fun I've had in a road car on a proper back road blast, love the flared arches too, and I could put up with the rubbery manual box, but the constant nodding dog ride quality would be impossible to live with. What a fun car though, and the gimmicky rear wheel steering felt fine, added to the fun as it really felt like it pivoted around you.

Unlikely to find a DCC clubsport in Ireland to test, so it'll probably have to be a blind order....  but owner feedback/reviews/YouTube videos do help alot, not ideal but so be it

I don't have to commute to work thankfully, so mpg doesn't concern me. My ST is sitting on 30.3 mpg despite lots of short trips and back road fun on the countryside roads I live on. Anything around 30mpg is fine for me.

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #265 on: 19 February 2021, 07:57 »
Lol I'll put you down as a "maybe" on the i30n  :laugh:

I don't think I've seen you say you are in Ireland before... Maybe a clubby with dcc and the ring mode might be a good idea.

Maybe things have changed since I was last there but the only place I've found with worse roads than England is Ireland.

Actually, that's not true, Italian city centres in the South are not even roads, just craters!
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #266 on: 19 February 2021, 08:17 »
The ride in the i30N is exceptionally harsh. If you’re worried about a CS on 18s with dcc then an I30N is a real bone shaker.
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Offline Colm

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #267 on: 19 February 2021, 09:00 »
Lol I'll put you down as a "maybe" on the i30n  :laugh:

I don't think I've seen you say you are in Ireland before... Maybe a clubby with dcc and the ring mode might be a good idea.

Maybe things have changed since I was last there but the only place I've found with worse roads than England is Ireland.

Actually, that's not true, Italian city centres in the South are not even roads, just craters!

😂 ha, yes, I didn't feel the love for the Hyundai alright!

Indeed, our back roads in Ireland take bumpy to another level. I laugh watching UK reviews where reviewers talk about "this bumpy terrible B road I'm on today"....  and I'm looking thinking, no, that's a motorway compared with what is outside my house!!!

Thankfully our National route are mostly good quality now, but the back roads are as bumpy as you remember them.

Anyway, apologies for taking the thread off topic somewhat, can't wait to see more Clubsport reviews

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #268 on: 19 February 2021, 11:42 »
Clubby's seem to be dropping in price

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #269 on: 19 February 2021, 11:46 »
Clubby's seem to be dropping in price

Wouldn't surprise me to see any dealer stock getting more discounts.... this stock must be killing their cashflow.

The whole motor trade is banking on a huge demand surge when lockdown lifts.... not sure I agree that will happen because a lot of people will not return to commuting... why replace your car if its going to sit on the drive? Does a family need multiple cars?
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