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Offline fredgroves

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #240 on: 17 February 2021, 16:05 »
Longer version of Thomas’ review now uploaded https://youtu.be/oijcDmi15lg

He also says the suspension in ring mode is stiffer.... its not.
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #241 on: 17 February 2021, 17:21 »
As far as I could tell from anything I’d read there was no real difference in interior spec between GTI and Clubby, seat materials excepted.
I did read in the blurb that the CS had a GTI ‘welcome light’ but mine just has a golf ball like a normal Golf (I’m assuming the latter has this) if it was referring the the under mirror light.

I’ve no idea what the ‘Ring mode actually consists of but I’d expect a fair degree of electronic trickery involving tightened suspension but damping being set to be quickly reactive to allow absorption of track kerbs but firmed up enough to eliminate any wallow when steering lock is applied allowing full power through bends, keeping as much tyre contact and weight loading across both sides of the axles as even as possible for maximum traction.
Then again I don’t have the first idea about suspension dynamics when it comes to race tracks.
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #242 on: 17 February 2021, 18:20 »
Dan Prosser (Pistonheads). Clubby Vs. Type R, 3 guesses as to which one he prefers 😂

https://youtu.be/uprnaqIwCrk

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #243 on: 17 February 2021, 19:45 »
That’s more like what we’d expect from PH. Much better.
Confirms that the car does have DCC and optioned 19’s rather than retro fitted Adelaides like on the white press car. That written PH article threw up more questions than it answered.
Tells us a bit more about the ‘Ring mode too in that it’s very suitable for British roads (explains why so much car manufacturers spend so much time doing ‘Ring laps) due to its compliance.
No surprises on the outcome but a good watch and informative to boot.
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #244 on: 17 February 2021, 20:14 »
Loads of car makers have claimed to have specially adapted suspension for UK roads though. They don't seem to shout about the ring being used to do it though.
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #245 on: 17 February 2021, 20:52 »
I’d hope on road developments were done all over the world still, from desert to arctic and everywhere in between, but most ‘spy’ snapshots tend to be captured at the ‘Ring these days.
Obviously the high speed development done on track in Germany is far removed from 40 mph on the Bracknell bypass dodging the potholes and manhole covers but at least with DCC and microprocessors we can have suspension that’s tuned for most conditions at the flick of an index finger.
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Personally I like to just get in and drive and have extremely specific requirements from a car. The less settings the better. But if it means I don’t have to drag out a VCDS cable to mess about with long codes and instead can set up a car how I want it from the off using officially sanctioned menus then it’s all good.

When I look at my colleague’s mk5 GTI I love the simplicity and solidity of that car.
I was having that very discussion with another colleague who was lamenting the complexity and build quality of modern BMWs compared to an old 5 series he has amongst his collection of cars.
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #246 on: 17 February 2021, 21:23 »
Just try Google with "suspension tuned for UK roads" and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Some of the results are what people might rate as desirable cars, some of them are sh1tboxes. Its really common though!

I don't think any of them use clever electronics though. I'd just trap my finger in the springs trying to push one of those 🤣
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #247 on: 17 February 2021, 23:29 »
Dan Prosser (Pistonheads). Clubby Vs. Type R, 3 guesses as to which one he prefers 😂

https://youtu.be/uprnaqIwCrk

The honda’s the one to buy... if you do most of your driving on deserted b roads.

Interesting you can buy it without the ridiculous spoiler. It’s possible some normal people will now consider buying one
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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #248 on: 17 February 2021, 23:48 »
Dan Prosser (Pistonheads). Clubby Vs. Type R, 3 guesses as to which one he prefers 😂

https://youtu.be/uprnaqIwCrk

This is a very interesting video. New member here, I'm a mk4 Focus ST 2.3 owner since 2019,  and considering a switch to a Clubsport with 18s and DCC, in order to maximise pliancy over bumpy surfaces.
 
The section where Dan describes using individual mode with the dampers in their softest setting and it mopping up bumps with ease sounds perfect for an everyday car.

The DSG only option, coming from a really sweet manual in the ST, is a turn off for me however. That said, if the ride is as pliant as described, I might forgo manual for the first time in 26 years of car ownership!

Has anyone here driven a Clubsport with DCC and 18s over very bumpy roads, if so, how did you find it?

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Re: Clubsport Reviews
« Reply #249 on: 18 February 2021, 07:46 »
I don't think dcc running in the softest setting is anything new for performance golf owners.

Everyone i know at work with mk7 gtd, gti or R seem to permanently run their cars in comfort mode.

I never did on my mk7 that had dcc. I'm only interested again in dcc because on the mk8 it's primary function is less about how hard or soft the ride is and now more about per wheel dynamic stability on all four corners in real time. This is the key feature of the mk8.
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