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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Pretzel on 25 June 2019, 22:20
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My elderly father finds getting in and out of my Golf increasingly difficult, so I'm thinking of changing.
Although I'm not a fan it might be time for an SUV, so are there any other cars which use the same engine and ideally the electronically activated mechanical limited-slip diff and uprated brakes?
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Any SUV I can think of with the same or more power than the GTi will almost certainly be four wheel drive.
Closest SUV's I can think of would be Audi SQ2, T-Roc R, Cupra Ateca. Tiguan R Line Tech is also available but don't think that has any mechanical upgrades beyond 4motion.
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I'm not sure how many (if any) SUVs will have the same engine as a GTI. Options you could look at include T-Roc R-line which I think comes with a 2.0 190 bhp engine. There is an SQ2 but that has a similar engine to the Golf R. Or XC40 T4 or T5. What you will find with SUVs is that they are more thirsty than the equivalent powered hatch - depends how many miles you do as to whether that is a big issue. If you can hang on a bit I believe there is a 'jacked up' version of the new A3 coming out - somewhere between the standard hatch and Q2 in height. The new V40 is also rumoured be an 'SUV type' though likely to be a bit lower than the XC40.
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My elderly father finds getting in and out of my Golf increasingly difficult, so I'm thinking of changing.
Although I'm not a fan it might be time for an SUV, so are there any other cars which use the same engine and ideally the electronically activated mechanical limited-slip diff and uprated brakes?
Not many options but there is one car that has the same engine, diff and brakes.. Octavia vRS 245. In both estate and hatch.
https://www.evo.co.uk/skoda/octavia-vrs/19473/skoda-octavia-vrs-245-review-the-hottest-octavia-gets-hotter
IF you’re reluctant for an SUV, then another car that uses a similar engine is the 2017 A4 TFSI 252 Quattro but with 4wd, it’s quicker off the mark from the current GTI P. You’ll find a nice one for about the £22-24k mark.
Other than that, depending on your budget which you haven’t stated, as mentioned above you could consider new Cupra Alteca which is about £30k used or the T-Roc R when it’s available. A mate of mine has a 2015 SQ5 which are great with the powerful diesel but older inside tech wise however they still hold their money well.
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If your budget can stretch the Porsche Macan is available with the ea 888.3 in 250bhp guise. I have driven one a few times and although it doesn't have the same go as the golf, owing to extra weight and four wheel drive, it goes well enough and is well appointed inside. MPG isn't too bad, but once again not quite as good as the GTI.
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A mate has one of those. I tell him it looks like a Kia Sportage :laugh:
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I always thought a Macan was a bird.....
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Cupra Ateca is nice, a little quicker than a GTI. Seem to be some good deals on them too
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Cupra Ateca is nice, a little quicker than a GTI. Seem to be some good deals on them too
Seat/Cupra need to sort their marketing out. If you try and configure a Cupra Leon ST, you get an image of the car with a Seat badge on the bonnet/boot.... The Ateca looks to have it right, to be fair. It ain't quite Toyota/Lexus (yet).
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Cupra Ateca is nice, a little quicker than a GTI. Seem to be some good deals on them too
Seat/Cupra need to sort their marketing out. If you try and configure a Cupra Leon ST, you get an image of the car with a Seat badge on the bonnet/boot.... The Ateca looks to have it right, to be fair. It ain't quite Toyota/Lexus (yet).
The current Cupra does have a Seat badge, doesn't it?
The next iteration won't
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From what I can see, the Cupra Ateca has a Cupra badge and the Cupra Leon ST has a Seat badge.... Looking at a youtube review of the Ateca, there are also still a few 'Seat' bits in the info system. Perhaps I am a bit harsh given that they are in the process of changing over but I thought it would be a bit slicker.
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Cupra Ateca is nice, a little quicker than a GTI. Seem to be some good deals on them too
Seat/Cupra need to sort their marketing out. If you try and configure a Cupra Leon ST, you get an image of the car with a Seat badge on the bonnet/boot.... The Ateca looks to have it right, to be fair. It ain't quite Toyota/Lexus (yet).
The current Cupra does have a Seat badge, doesn't it?
The next iteration won't
Yes, the current Leon Cupra is still badged as a Seat - albeit the colour of the Seat logo on the front grille, tailgate, steering wheel and the centre caps of the wheels are now copper coloured rather than chrome.
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Thanks for the replies, time to visit a few dealers.
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From what I can see, the Cupra Ateca has a Cupra badge and the Cupra Leon ST has a Seat badge.... Looking at a youtube review of the Ateca, there are also still a few 'Seat' bits in the info system. Perhaps I am a bit harsh given that they are in the process of changing over but I thought it would be a bit slicker.
SEAT haven't stopped making them though, just under the Cupra brand name. Bound to be some crossover of logos/branding.
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Thanks for the replies, time to visit a few dealers.
Back to your original post though - could be more cost effective to set up an Uber account for your father?! :grin:
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Range Rover Evoque Si4 is an extremely good engine with 237bhp and 251lf ft of torque. Mine also came with 9 speed auto and made it a bloody decent ride.
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Didn't realise VW engine shared with JLR :whistle:
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Range Rover Evoque Si4 is an extremely good engine with 237bhp and 251lf ft of torque. Mine also came with 9 speed auto and made it a bloody decent ride.
Good luck to anyone who drives a RR out of warranty!
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Range Rover Evoque Si4 is an extremely good engine with 237bhp and 251lf ft of torque. Mine also came with 9 speed auto and made it a bloody decent ride.
I'm not sure the OP is looking at girls cars..... :whistle:
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You will also have to fork out 700 quid for lumber support in the Evoque (elec seats). The T-Roc doesn't have lumbar as standard either but its a wee bit cheaper to spec.....
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:smiley:
Thanks for the replies, time to visit a few dealers.
Back to your original post though - could be more cost effective to set up an Uber account for your father?! :grin:
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Range Rover Evoque Si4 is an extremely good engine with 237bhp and 251lf ft of torque. Mine also came with 9 speed auto and made it a bloody decent ride.
Good luck to anyone who drives a RR out of warranty!
Been there, done that - why I now drive a GTI
I had a Discovery 4 from new in 2010 - every time I started it in recent years it was a case of ‘is this the time the crank snaps’ - google it and you will see what I mean.
Daughter just bought a MY19 Evoque - nice car but I’m not sure if they have fixed the oil dilution issues on the Ingenium engine.
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I think a lot of the problem with elderly relatives trying to get into Golfs is more the pronounced side bolsters on the seat squab making it hard for them to shuffle into place whilst they attempt to swing their legs in. Instead they’re treated to an instant prostate examination by the seat bolster causing rapid pupil dilation which hampers ingress more than the actual height of the seat.
So I wonder whether a T-Roc R or similar vehicle sharing the GTI type engine with higher seating would actually be of that much more benefit if it has sports seats..
Talking of SUV’s, a colleague of mine had his Jaguar barge back in the the dealers for the third time for a leather seat cover (warranty) replacement last week and was given an E-Pace courtesy car.
It looked a bit odd in flat red, the colour didn’t suit the car or image, and despite a rather sumptuous interior there is hardly any rear legroom for the size of the thing.
Another colleague was wondering what cheap car to buy for his wife that fits three kids and capable of towing a horse box shortish distances.
The first thing that came to mind was a Dacia Duster for some reason. A quick look on their website and the base model is £1300 down and just over £100 a month for 4 years with a service plan just £5 a month extra. Now *that* is cheap motoring! Granted the thing is bloody awful but...
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I think a lot of the problem with elderly relatives trying to get into Golfs is more the pronounced side bolsters on the seat squab making it hard for them to shuffle into place whilst they attempt to swing their legs in. Instead they’re treated to an instant prostate examination by the seat bolster causing rapid pupil dilation which hampers ingress more than the actual height of the seat.
So I wonder whether a T-Roc R or similar vehicle sharing the GTI type engine with higher seating would actually be of that much more benefit if it has sports seats..
Interesting thought.