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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Refurbished. on 10 March 2021, 18:55

Title: Battery replacement
Post by: Refurbished. on 10 March 2021, 18:55
Having recently bought a very low mileage GTI I’ve been disappointed to note the dash display showing low voltage, since purchase. I drove it 50 miles home and I’ve had it on trickle charge overnight. Doesn’t seem to have revived it. Stop/start still doesn’t work.

Checked Eurocarparts and they show a ludicrous £435 for replacement. Then I note I need to code the battery to the car. I don’t have the software for that.

I imagine VW cost for a replacement battery is fierce. Who do you use for a battery replacement and how do you code it?
I’m in Surrey. Cheers
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Lordie on 10 March 2021, 19:01
I assume it was a private sale and not from a garage? Therefore you can't take it back for them to replace?

Unfortunately I know cars with stop/start etc have batteries that are a lot more expensive. I've only had my GTi a year so haven't had to break the bank on a battery yet

I do know that if you buy an OBD11 (or possible a Carista which is cheaper might do it too?) device then you can program the battery yourself. If you don't know they've devices that plug into the port under your steering wheel to read diagnostic information among many other things. They've both sub £100
I'm sure someone else will be able to comment soon can give you far more information about these than I can
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: jv on 10 March 2021, 19:08
About 180 fitted and coded with Halfords
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Refurbished. on 10 March 2021, 19:40
That’s a relief! Never thought Halfords would be cheaper than ECP for anything!
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Vwjap on 12 March 2021, 10:20
I assume it was a private sale and not from a garage? Therefore you can't take it back for them to replace?

Unfortunately I know cars with stop/start etc have batteries that are a lot more expensive. I've only had my GTi a year so haven't had to break the bank on a battery yet

I do know that if you buy an OBD11 (or possible a Carista which is cheaper might do it too?) device then you can program the battery yourself. If you don't know they've devices that plug into the port under your steering wheel to read diagnostic information among many other things. They've both sub £100
I'm sure someone else will be able to comment soon can give you far more information about these than I can
yeah if you get the same model battery you only need to change the serial number so the car knows it’s new, maybe ask around your area see if anyone will program it for you, I gave my spare away, but I still have gen1 and 2 in the car, so if around hertfordshire your welcome to get it coded
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Refurbished. on 12 March 2021, 11:12
Kind offer- I’m in Surrey. I found my Ctek has a recon mode so I left it connected overnight. Hoping it may have shaken off it’s lethargy. Otherwise Halfords sound promising if they also code to the car. What a nonsense- coding a battery to a car....
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Finglonga on 12 March 2021, 22:38
If you know someone with a trade card you can upgrade for around £125 to an AGM.

however the current battery needs a good charge to get Start/Stop working in this weather and that can only be done with a good 20mile run.
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Lordie on 14 March 2021, 15:31
Yeah if you get the same model battery you only need to change the serial number so the car knows it’s new, maybe ask around your area see if anyone will program it for you, I gave my spare away, but I still have gen1 and 2 in the car, so if around hertfordshire your welcome to get it coded

I've had my car a year and still haven't got around to picking up an OBD11 yet. I was hoping it will drop in price but I missed out on grabbing one on BlackFriday. Was going to get the gen 2 as I have an iPhone but do have old Android phones around the house. Plan A is disabling the fake engine sounds but then I'm worried I'll want a RacingLine intake and then it'll be a money spiral from there aha
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Vwjap on 15 March 2021, 11:41
Yeah if you get the same model battery you only need to change the serial number so the car knows it’s new, maybe ask around your area see if anyone will program it for you, I gave my spare away, but I still have gen1 and 2 in the car, so if around hertfordshire your welcome to get it coded

I've had my car a year and still haven't got around to picking up an OBD11 yet. I was hoping it will drop in price but I missed out on grabbing one on BlackFriday. Was going to get the gen 2 as I have an iPhone but do have old Android phones around the house. Plan A is disabling the fake engine sounds but then I'm worried I'll want a RacingLine intake and then it'll be a money spiral from there aha
gen 2 works on both android and iOS, but android can do a few more bits (like clear CSM)
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: mustard on 15 March 2021, 15:32
I bought an AGM battery from Amazon, £125 (now gone up to £143), the dealer quoted me £247 for a replacement EFB battery. Fitted and coded it myself, but I have got VCDS that I bought some while ago/
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Mikeyd1 on 15 March 2021, 19:29
I bought an AGM battery from Amazon, £125 (now gone up to £143), the dealer quoted me £247 for a replacement EFB battery. Fitted and coded it myself, but I have got VCDS that I bought some while ago/
You got a link mate? Thanks
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: mustard on 16 March 2021, 22:29
This is the one I bought:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-0-092-S5-A-080-Rechargeable-Starter-Battery/dp/B00SJ97O6W/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=io2wy&pf_rd_p=dc48a86e-e8e6-463b-b5a6-be2ccfb37ec3&pf_rd_r=BHVV8446W1GKM4NGRCZX&pd_rd_r=4892d4d2-a7af-44ce-bcf8-2883f6681a63&pd_rd_wg=7nVlC&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Kpow99 on 17 March 2021, 08:22
This is the one I bought:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-0-092-S5-A-080-Rechargeable-Starter-Battery/dp/B00SJ97O6W/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=io2wy&pf_rd_p=dc48a86e-e8e6-463b-b5a6-be2ccfb37ec3&pf_rd_r=BHVV8446W1GKM4NGRCZX&pd_rd_r=4892d4d2-a7af-44ce-bcf8-2883f6681a63&pd_rd_wg=7nVlC&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d

Pretty good, I had to buy a similar Bosch battery for a bus in my fleet and was £250 which i thought was meh but seeing some prices quoted of £400+! wow lol
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Mikeyd1 on 17 March 2021, 14:48
This is the one I bought:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-0-092-S5-A-080-Rechargeable-Starter-Battery/dp/B00SJ97O6W/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=io2wy&pf_rd_p=dc48a86e-e8e6-463b-b5a6-be2ccfb37ec3&pf_rd_r=BHVV8446W1GKM4NGRCZX&pd_rd_r=4892d4d2-a7af-44ce-bcf8-2883f6681a63&pd_rd_wg=7nVlC&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d
Thankyou mate
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Rudedog on 17 March 2021, 18:08
I think this is the same AGM battery but made by Varta, I've had a good fast service from the batterymegastore (free next day delivery).

https://www.batterymegastore.co.uk/product/varta-silver-dynamic-agm-e39-car-battery/

Bosch and Varta batteries are made in the same factory in Germany which is the biggest in Europe.


Edit - sorry biggest AGM factory in the world!
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Mikeyd1 on 17 March 2021, 20:42
So what do I have to do to code the battery above, I do have OBDeleven but haven’t got a clue to code a battery. Thanks
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: itavaltalainen on 18 March 2021, 07:01
You need to code it in the gateway.
Essentially three adaptation channels, battery type (wet, efb, agm), capacity (Ah), serial number and if your manufacturer exists as a choice then that too. Not that the manufacturer matters much I think.

Stick to the CAN/UDS guide on here:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Battery_Replacement

You don't need to use the actual serial number, this just needs to be changed, e.g. by adding 1 to the existing one.
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Refurbished. on 18 March 2021, 09:03
How much should I look to pay for OBD 11?
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Mikeyd1 on 18 March 2021, 14:33
You need to code it in the gateway.
Essentially three adaptation channels, battery type (wet, efb, agm), capacity (Ah), serial number and if your manufacturer exists as a choice then that too. Not that the manufacturer matters much I think.

Stick to the CAN/UDS guide on here:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Battery_Replacement

You don't need to use the actual serial number, this just needs to be changed, e.g. by adding 1 to the existing one.
Thankyou
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Mikeyd1 on 18 March 2021, 14:34
How much should I look to pay for OBD 11?
proberly around 30 to 40 for a used 1.
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: itavaltalainen on 18 March 2021, 17:39
You need pro to code in a battery in adapations.
You can pick up a NextGen with Pro on Amazon for about £70
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Lordie on 18 March 2021, 19:59
You need pro to code in a battery in adapations.
You can pick up a NextGen with Pro on Amazon for about £70

What's the difference between the regular and the pro?. It's difficult to find out online a solid list as to what each does. I know the pro does long coding but is that just for professionals to mess with?

If I got one the things I know I'd want to do is - Code new batteries myself, try Audi throttle response, turn off fake engine sounds etc
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: Finglonga on 19 March 2021, 09:27
Tells you on their site what advantages the Pro has https://obdeleven.com/en/nextgen

Worth getting the pro as it does much more, the next gen is considerably quicker as well.
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: GTi Andy on 06 April 2021, 10:39
Can I ask why a battery will need coding please?
I got caught out with a flat battery recently and had no option but to go to Halfords. One of their guys fitted it for me as I was in a rush, he never coded it.
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: sjw on 06 April 2021, 13:44
You need pro to code in a battery in adapations.
You can pick up a NextGen with Pro on Amazon for about £70

No you don't
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: sjw on 06 April 2021, 13:45
Can I ask why a battery will need coding please?
I got caught out with a flat battery recently and had no option but to go to Halfords. One of their guys fitted it for me as I was in a rush, he never coded it.

It lets the car know what it should be charging to, that it should adapt the charging rate, etc
Title: Re: Battery replacement
Post by: golfdave on 06 April 2021, 21:23
I di a how to guide way back in 2015 which I've just been tiding up to the newer formatting...all info in first post..

https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/how-to-retro-fit-a-bigger-capacity-battery-to-a-mk7-golf.320084/