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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: seano7015 on 08 January 2011, 13:36
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iv got a '89 gti cab, but went out 2 it this morning and the front seats a soaked! also thers a puddle behind the drivers seat!! :cry:
ive checked the door seals and it looks like the water is running inside the seal??
any ideas?
cheers sean
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iv got a '89 gti cab, but went out 2 it this morning and the front seats a soaked! also thers a puddle behind the drivers seat!! :cry:
ive checked the door seals and it looks like the water is running inside the seal??
any ideas?
cheers sean
Moved this for you... As said in one of your other posts, you may need to dry it out and give the car a good bit of hosing to see if you can spot any leaks. If you are having issues with your doors, check that the membranes behind the door cards are still intact, also check that the drain holes at the bottom of the doors are clear. My previous mk1 used to fill the footwells because these were blocked.
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the seats getting wet is probably coming thru where the roof seals attach to the roof, there is a metal runner the roof seal sits in, water can get thru between the runner and roof. a permanent fix is to remove seal and runner and use some tigerseal between runner and roof and refit seal. a temp fix is to run a bead of vasaline along the outside between roof and runner/seal.
as soundilusion said door membranes are likely cause of water in footwells
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cheers guys!
if the weathers ok tomorrow im gunna get outside and have a gander to see if i can fix it!!!!
ile let u know how i get on!! :smiley:
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Leaking roof generally can mean that the Roof has gone porous.
Dependant on age.
The water seeps through the hood and collects inside the hood frame and finds it's way out by the roof latch handles.
There are some foam gasket seals that are under the actaul rubber seal retainers, some times changing these can help.
There also should be a bead of non setting mastic around the front screw hole of the front side retainers.
Also check that the side seals meet the front header seal at the front, you may need to tighten the J hooks slightly to pull the hood forward.
I had this problem and tried everything, the only solution that worked was to put a brand new roof on.
Nice dry seats now.
Agree though make sure the drainholes in the bottom of your doors are clear and also the scuttle drain holes.
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cheers guys!
if the weathers ok tomorrow im gunna get outside and have a gander to see if i can fix it!!!!
ile let u know how i get on!! :smiley:
So how did you get on?
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Could be your windows...
Mine leaked. I adjusted the window winder stoppers, the window wasn't going up high enough to make a nice seal with the rubber strip on t'hood.
Get your door cards off and see if you can get those windows up any higher.
If all else fails get a car cover, i took mine everywhere, bagging up if it looked cloudy hehe.
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cheers for the advice guys!!
Having a bit of a mare really, i tightened the j hooks and it seemed to cure the problem, until i opened the roof to show of to my sons friends :laugh:!! and now i cant seem to stop it from chuffin leaking!! it seems to be just above the door seals. its actually dripping from inside the seals!!??!!??
i checked the drain holes at the bottom of the doors and these are ok, but i have noticed that water is coming in through the bottom door seal i.e where the window comes out from!! but the water goes straight outside!!
ive taken the door cards out to stop them from getting completely fooked!!!
im at the end of my teather now, dont really want to go down the route of replacing the hood!!!! been working on it for the last 2 weekends now and proper fed up!!!!
any more ideas??
cheers sean :cool:
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yep its the sealing strip between the seal holder and the roof. you will have to take off seal rubbers and unscrew the metal runner from the roof, get some tiger seal and run a generous amount along where the runner sits, spread it about a bit then refit runner and main seal, i did tell you this in my earlier post.
i had exactly the same problem, but if you want to ignore this piece of advice go right ahead and keep having a mare :rolleyes:
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yep its the sealing strip between the seal holder and the roof. you will have to take off seal rubbers and unscrew the metal runner from the roof, get some tiger seal and run a generous amount along where the runner sits, spread it about a bit then refit runner and main seal, i did tell you this in my earlier post.
i had exactly the same problem, but if you want to ignore this piece of advice go right ahead and keep having a mare :rolleyes:
lol!!! cheers dude!! ive only just noticed your previous post!!! its a problem i have, i read half of something and forget everything else lol!!! :rolleyes:
im such a retard sometimes! gunna give it a go on sunday let you know how i get on!!
sean :cool:
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You should really use non setting mastic as Tiger seal is a serious adhesive and will stick every thing up, to the degree you will destroy the metal seal retainers as they are very flimsy, should you need to remove them, which you would need to do if you replace the roof (you will just make hard work for yourself in the long run). This will not neccesarily cure a porous roof and the water will find another entry point. By all means change the foam gasket seals with new ones Part No 155871431 from VW dealer, their main job is to keep out the draft, moisture, noise etc.
If the roof is old and has any damage just replace it. It's not that difficult, just time consuming and you need a bit of patience.
When the roof goes porous the moisture seeps through the Vynil/mohair and runs towards the natural curve to the outer edges, it collects in the roof frame arm sections. The water finds it's way in usually around the roof latch handle area, but will find an easy entry point and so drips in.
I would replace the foam gasket seals and make sure the front section of the seals make contact with the main header seal.
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You should really use non setting mastic as Tiger seal is a serious adhesive and will stick every thing up, to the degree you will destroy the metal seal retainers as they are very flimsy, should you need to remove them, which you would need to do if you replace the roof (you will just make hard work for yourself in the long run). This will not neccesarily cure a porous roof and the water will find another entry point. By all means change the foam gasket seals with new ones Part No 155871431 from VW dealer, their main job is to keep out the draft, moisture, noise etc.
If the roof is old and has any damage just replace it. It's not that difficult, just time consuming and you need a bit of patience.
When the roof goes porous the moisture seeps through the Vynil/mohair and runs towards the natural curve to the outer edges, it collects in the roof frame arm sections. The water finds it's way in usually around the roof latch handle area, but will find an easy entry point and so drips in.
I would replace the foam gasket seals and make sure the front section of the seals make contact with the main header seal.
cheers dude!! im gunna give it a bash on sunday, ile let you know how i get on!!
cheers sean :cool:
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ok guys just a quick update!!
resealed the door seals and this seemed to work!! :grin: BUT
it still seemed to get wet so i got a mate round who is a dub expert and he diagnosed the problem to be a porus roof :sad:
he said not to worry because a cheap fix is buying this stuff from millets which you spray on tents etc etc
hes had several cabriolets and said that this stuff works realy well and lasts for a few years (or until i can afford to put a new roof on!!!) and it only costs about a fiver!!!!! :laugh:
but for now ive put a hoofing great tarpaulin over the roof to try and dry it out!!! gunna put a dehumidifier in there tomorrow to get rid of all the moisture!!!!
so fingers crossed!!!
sean :cool:
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another update!!
saturday was the best day weve had for ages down 'ere, so i scrubbed the roof clean, dried it and sprayed fabsil on it, let that dry and opened it all up.
cleaned the interior and let the sun do its work!!
later on that evening i closed it all up and put the dehumidifier in there!! sucked out 6 inches of water since then!!
nomore leaks!!!! proper chuffed!!
all i gotta do now is the brakes, tyres, service, insure and tax it!!
job done
cheers for all the advice guys!!
sean :cool: