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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: trueblue_ips on 23 August 2018, 10:08
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Hello, I was set to get a nearly new or new GTI 7.5 early next year giving me time to save a bit of cash.
However with the new Mk8 on the horizon I tempted to wait and get that. I generally keep a car for 5-10 years and can't help thinking I'd regret getting the "old" model when the new one is released.
It does mean I would have to buy new and a pay a premium for the new model. I'm expecting big things from the Mk8 though with a big performance boost, a heavily revamped interior and more tech.
Does anyone know of a release date for the GTI Mk8? I don't think we'll see the first new non-performance Golfs on people's driveways till the end of next year so it could be 2 years away still for the GTI.
Would you buy now if you plan to keep the car or wait for Mk8?
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Snap! I have exactly the same dilemma.
I change every to years..... so 3/19 is on the cards especially if there are good new bargains to be had.
But will I also regret my decision if Mk8 GTI appears early and starts getting discounted?
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Why would you want to wait two years for a new car? Why not break with tradition, get yourself a pre reg/ex demo now thereby avoiding a fair bit of the initial depreciation and enjoy yourself. Then when the MK8 appears you can then decide what you want to do. You might not like it! Or better still, get yourself in a CS, they seem to be holding their value well, might ease the depreciation hit.
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Why would you want to wait two years for a new car? Why not break with tradition, get yourself a pre reg/ex demo now thereby avoiding a fair bit of the initial depreciation and enjoy yourself. Then when the MK8 appears you can then decide what you want to do. You might not like it! Or better still, get yourself in a CS, they seem to be holding their value well, might ease the depreciation hit.
Good advice :smiley:
Never really understood the 'shall I wait 2 years for a new car' question. No-one can answer that apart the person asking.
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So many things to consider. I've never spent more than £5K on a car before so this is a big purchase and big decision for me.
I'll be buying on Finance so could get a nearly new 7.5 on PCP over 2 or 3 years then swap it for a nearly new Mk8 when the balloon payment is due.
I'll be 50 in 2020 and think I would like to own a brand new car at least once in my life. I could wait for the Mk8 which would allow me to save up a lot more so I have 50% of the purchase price as a deposit. Could go for HP then.
As an aside, I'm getting some great offers on a new 7.5 from Carwow. Cheaper prices than I'm seeing for a used on autotrader. £26.5k for a new GTI PP with a couple of options.
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So many things to consider. I've never spent more than £5K on a car before so this is a big purchase and big decision for me.
I'll be buying on Finance so could get a nearly new 7.5 on PCP over 2 or 3 years then swap it for a nearly new Mk8 when the balloon payment is due.
I'll be 50 in 2020 and think I would like to own a brand new car at least once in my life. I could wait for the Mk8 which would allow me to save up a lot more so I have 50% of the purchase price as a deposit. Could go for HP then.
As an aside, I'm getting some great offers on a new 7.5 from Carwow. Cheaper prices than I'm seeing for a used on autotrader. £26.5k for a new GTI PP with a couple of options.
Do it. I can't say you definitely won't regret it but I doubt it. Try Drive the Deal too. I can't let my hair down as I was the model for this - :nerd: (apart from the smile) but you can! (Probably?) :laugh:
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Cheers, I'll check out drive the deal :smiley:
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I was thinking of waiting for the Mk8 as am currently looking at some stock 7.5s but difficult to find the right spec. As you say though, could be nearly 2 years to get hands on a Mk8. Also, I don't expect the 8 will have a CD player.......
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It's one thing to wait 6 months or so, different things altogether to wait 2 years.
None of us even know what the Mk8 will look like, or much else about it other than it will be Golf-like. If you like the Mk7.5, may as well get that now, then see how you feel about that when you see it. I'd expect we'll start seeing images of the non-performance models towards the back end of next year.
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I’d expect we'll start seeing images of the non-performance models towards the back end of next year.
Sooner than that. The first mk8 Golfs are due to be built June next year.
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I’d expect we'll start seeing images of the non-performance models towards the back end of next year.
Sooner than that. The first mk8 Golfs are due to be built June next year.
I believe (perhaps mistakenly) that the Mk8 will be premiered at the Frankfurt Auto show in September next year, although you could be correct in that we may see some press images before then.
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End of June 19 for the very first builds but these would be for the left hand drive market to start with presumably?
I reckon it'll be summer 2020 before we see the Mk8 GTIs.
Still tempted to wait though.
I could buy a 7.5 in Mar 2019 or wait one more year and get the Mk8.
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End of June 19 for the very first builds but these would be for the left hand drive market to start with presumably?
I reckon it'll be summer 2020 before we see the Mk8 GTIs.
Still tempted to wait though.
I could buy a 7.5 in Mar 2019 or wait one more year and get the Mk8.
Or have a look on Autotrader at all the 2018 plates, save a fortune and get one now!! :grin:
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End of June 19 for the very first builds but these would be for the left hand drive market to start with presumably?
I reckon it'll be summer 2020 before we see the Mk8 GTIs.
Still tempted to wait though.
I could buy a 7.5 in Mar 2019 or wait one more year and get the Mk8.
Yes first cars will be LHD, our RHD's will follow a few months after.
Without wanting to actively discourage you from waiting, early Mk6 orders suffered ridiculously long lead times (6+ months), early Mk7 orders lead times weren't quite as bad but there was lots of misinformation about build dates and VW cocked up the specs so people were trying to order and didn’t actually know what the standard spec was supposed to be.
Still, if you're one of the early adopters, please let us know what problems to look out for :grin:
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End of June 19 for the very first builds but these would be for the left hand drive market to start with presumably?
I reckon it'll be summer 2020 before we see the Mk8 GTIs.
Still tempted to wait though.
I could buy a 7.5 in Mar 2019 or wait one more year and get the Mk8.
Or have a look on Autotrader at all the 2018 plates, save a fortune and get one now!! :grin:
There might be loads on Autotrader but they’re all DSG and I want a manual!!
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Would anyone be able to post a link directly to 2018 GTIs on Autotrader? Sorry, but I'm darned if I can find 'em, ta.
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Would anyone be able to post a link directly to 2018 GTIs on Autotrader? Sorry, but I'm darned if I can find 'em, ta.
Have you ever been on Autotrader before?!
Go into the app or desktop.
Make: Vw
Model: Golf
Variant: GTI Performance
Min year : 2018
Press Search.
Results - 111 cars nationwide (Of which 27 are manual for the previous comment).
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I have, of course. I don't get the 'variant' option you suggest. When I search 'GTI' I do get GTIs but, filtering from 'newest' only get used ones. I was after a GTI not a GTI PP and hoping to track down stock cars/pre reg cars out there. There are a couple on Carwow but there must be more than that.
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I have, of course. I don't get the 'variant' option you suggest. When I search 'GTI' I do get GTIs but, filtering from 'newest' only get used ones. I was after a GTI not a GTI PP and hoping to track down stock cars/pre reg cars out there. There are a couple on Carwow but there must be more than that.
If you're using latest version, you can drop down of variant so just shows GTI Performance, GTI etc.
There are 44 normal 2018 GTIs. Out of interest, why wouldn't you want the Performance model?
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Thanks Jim - I don't get the variant option that you refer to and can't find any new GTIs. I'm looking at autotrader.co.uk so I assume that is the latest version.
For me, PP = increased purchase/fuel/insurance costs and more noise. Haven't ruled it out completely but would prefer the standard model.
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Would I wait for the Mk.8? No I wouldn't, because you never know what life is going to throw at you or what is around the corner. Enjoy what you can, while you can and if you really want a GTi then what is the point of holding on for something that might not be as good as what you could have now?
No one knows what the next GTi will be like. With all eyes on emissions and all this hybrid garbage you might find the Mk.8 is dummed down to appease the loons in the EU.
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Ikura - I agree. I'm looking for a 7.5 GTI at the mo and will hope to keep it for 10 years/180k miles (what my last permanent car achieved). I'm something of a GTI virgin and others are more qualified than me to comment but from what I've looked into, the 7/7.5 may well go down as one of the best GTIs ever, alongside the 1 & 5.
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Would I wait for the Mk.8? No I wouldn't, because you never know what life is going to throw at you or what is around the corner. Enjoy what you can, while you can and if you really want a GTi then what is the point of holding on for something that might not be as good as what you could have now?
No one knows what the next GTi will be like. With all eyes on emissions and all this hybrid garbage you might find the Mk.8 is dummed down to appease the loons in the EU.
That's a very fair point, I'm sick of hearing about emissions.
We should get a preview of the new GTI hybrid technology in October. The new Mercedes A35 is being revealed and uses the same hybrid technology with a 2.0 litre petrol engine and 48V battery supplementing power and saving fuel. I'm not sure I like the idea of engine coasting though.
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Thanks Jim - I don't get the variant option that you refer to and can't find any new GTIs. I'm looking at autotrader.co.uk so I assume that is the latest version.
For me, PP = increased purchase/fuel/insurance costs and more noise. Haven't ruled it out completely but would prefer the standard model.
On the front Auto Trader Screen, select;
Manufacturer = VW
Model = Golf
Press the red search button
Top left corner of the next screen, select the ‘Model Variant’ option; all models of the Golf are displayed in a pop-up window and you can select just the models you’re interested in to restrict your search (to non-performance GTI’s).
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SRGTD - thanks. Yes, I did that then 'new' and I get 1 return...
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I just found a great car on Auto Trader.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807148441293?atmobcid=soc3
Try this link ar899
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SRGTD - thanks. Yes, I did that then 'new' and I get 1 return...
Don't select new. Select Year 2018. Used.
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SRGTD - thanks. Yes, I did that then 'new' and I get 1 return...
I get 4 brand new by selecting ‘Year’ as 2018 (as well as restricting model to ‘GTI’). If you remove the year and search on ‘GTI’ and mileage up to 100 (so include pre-reg delivery mileage models), there’s 8.
The search results will based on what the trader has put in the ad, so you need to be a bit creative with your search filters and experiment with different permutations of search criteria.
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Thanks Jim - I don't get the variant option that you refer to and can't find any new GTIs. I'm looking at autotrader.co.uk so I assume that is the latest version.
For me, PP = increased purchase/fuel/insurance costs and more noise. Haven't ruled it out completely but would prefer the standard model.
I've had both versions of the 7.5 I would say the following:
Purchase price - very little if you look at pre reg/2k miles one.
Fuel - no noticeable different - probably better for the Performance version on a run as its got the 7 speed
Insurance - would guess difference will be almost nothing
More noise - not really, but louder on start up but I actually found my new one smoother and nicer to drive and the gearbox is loads more refined.
But with the Performance model you have better brakes, far superior traction from the diff and a touch more power. I'd say it's a no brainer to go for it.
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Jim/SRGTD - thanks both, getting somewhere now :)
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I suspect the more tech they put into the Mk8 the longer we may have to wait for the performance models.
As someone else said, early models of an ‘all new’ car usually have issues.
I also wonder what effect WLTP will have on performance models. Manufactures might have to focus more on efficiency than performance.
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I also wonder what effect WLTP will have on performance models. Manufactures might have to focus more on efficiency than performance.
What is WLTP?
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I also wonder what effect WLTP will have on performance models. Manufactures might have to focus more on efficiency than performance.
What is WLTP?
This;
http://wltpfacts.eu/what-is-wltp-how-will-it-work/
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I also wonder what effect WLTP will have on performance models. Manufactures might have to focus more on efficiency than performance.
What is WLTP?
World Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure - the new fuel consumption and CO2/pollutant emissions testing procedure which is based on real driving data, so more realistic mpg and CO2 figures than those previously published by motor manufacturers for their vehicles that were created under laboratory conditions using the previous NEDC test procedures.
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This is good news though isn't it? Real world mpg figures. I only do about 5k miles a year so MPG not a huge issue for me personally but understand for some people it's more important.
Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW :whistle:
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This is good news though isn't it? Real world mpg figures. I only do about 5k miles a year so MPG not a huge issue for me personally but understand for some people it's more important.
Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW :whistle:
It’s not good news if you’ve ordered a new car and that particular car hasn’t been type approved under WLTP yet; it means you’ve got a potentially long waiting time.
According to VW’s website, no Golf models have got WLTP type approval yet.
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This is good news though isn't it? Real world mpg figures. I only do about 5k miles a year so MPG not a huge issue for me personally but understand for some people it's more important.
Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW :whistle:
Is it? No matter how they test them, nothing will guarantee what economy any one individual will get. As it happens, the current figures for my car are not far off what I can actually obtain so I have no complaints. Driving styles and individual conditions are just too variable for any test to be meaningful. And why such a downer on VW? They weren't the only ones cheating.
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No downer on VW at all. I'm looking at getting a VW!. Post was slightly tongue in cheek after the emissions scandal.
I do think it's well overdue that consumers got "real" MPG figures.
Back to Mk8, I see VW's priority being emissions and MPG but still expect a good performance boost.
There are lots of reports of some kind of 10 second boost capability in acceleration, presumably with the battery providing that boost?
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Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW :whistle:
VW were the ones that were caught. Other manufactures were cheating the tests too.
After the dieselgate VW revised a lot of their MPG figures. Other manufactures may be in a much worse position with regard to WLTP.
I thought WLTP was the reason certain options had been removed i.e. manual gearbox and non-pp GTI. Didn't the Golf R loose 10hp aswell? :huh:
That's what is making me think the Mk8 may not see much increase in performance. With the focus being on efficiency.
Talking of focus - the MPG figures for the performance Ford Focus cars, are pure fantasy.
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Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW :whistle:
VW were the ones that were caught. Other manufactures were cheating the tests too.
After the dieselgate VW revised a lot of their MPG figures. Other manufactures may be in a much worse position with regard to WLTP.
I thought WLTP was the reason certain options had been removed i.e. manual gearbox and non-pp GTI. Didn't the Golf R loose 10hp aswell? :huh:
That's what is making me think the Mk8 may not see much increase in performance. With the focus being on efficiency.
Talking of focus - the MPG figures for the performance Ford Focus cars, are pure fantasy.
Think you're right in that priority for Mk8 will be on emissions and economy but I'm still expecting a decent performance boost. Supposedly the 48v battery is meant to give a performance boost F1 style for up to 10 seconds.
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Hey guys.... just adding my two pence worth as a guy who has just ordered a new 5 dr 7.5 DSG PP.
Life's too short, the current PP is a fabulous car as it is today. Why wait?
Best guesstimates in the media for the Mk8 GTI in the UK is looking at mid 2020 earliest (maybe :wink:).
Buying a 7.5 now doesn't make it any lesser of a car because a new one is coming out.... and right now the spec if probably the best it's ever been almost as standard out the box (although I have to admit I did add DCC/Dynaudio/Tints/Climate Windscreen).
The choice is personal of course but for me, I did A LOT of research prior to diving in with an order....and the other side of signing on the dotted line.....I'm a happy bunny.
In my opinion, go for it and enjoy. Worse case scenario, if it really bothers you on release, you have a 7.5 for 3 years, take the depreciation hit (or buy on PCP) and trade in for a new Mk8. Think of all the fun and good times you would have had in the meantime....rather than wait :smiley:
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I really do think that if the Mk7.5 ticks the boxes, you like the drive etc I wouldn’t wait for the mk8. Who knows how expensive it’ll be, what the reviews will be like , what equipment it will come with etc.
I know that my deal won’t be in line with a mk8 so I’d be looking at a TCR or an R.
It also depends in your point with finance. Timing is important. For some of us it’ll be great timing but not so good for others. While asking at Vw Manc I was told that you can extend your pcp by 3 months as long as you have a car on order. If timing is tight, that’s always an option.
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Theres alot to be said for buying a car at the end of its production cycle rather than its first couple of years of manufacture. Most of the design and build issues will have being identified and rectified.
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A bit like never fly the mark 1 of anything....
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A very likely this Mk8 will have a mild hybrid 48v powertrain.... thats brand new leading edge tech...
Expect the first MY to have teething problems....
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A very likely this Mk8 will have a mild hybrid 48v powertrain.... thats brand new leading edge tech...
Expect the first MY to have teething problems....
TBH, it's for that reason I'm considering holding off for a year. I think technology wise the Mk8 will be a big step forward. Maybe not all good, I'm not sure I like the idea of coasting. I was going to buy Mar 19 so could delay till Mar 20.
Hopefully, we'll get more info on it soon.
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Expect the first MY to have teething problems....
....and missing fog lights.... :laugh:
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A very likely this Mk8 will have a mild hybrid 48v powertrain.... thats brand new leading edge tech...
Expect the first MY to have teething problems....
TBH, it's for that reason I'm considering holding off for a year. I think technology wise the Mk8 will be a big step forward. Maybe not all good, I'm not sure I like the idea of coasting. I was going to buy Mar 19 so could delay till Mar 20.
Hopefully, we'll get more info on it soon.
You can turn the coasting feature off, or you could on the Tiguan dsg box. I wouldn't let it stop you buying a car though.
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Whatever new technology comes, it will be roughly the equivalent of everyone else's at that time anyway. There are always some OEM's that are a little behind the curve, but I'd expect to see most having similar stuff in 2019/20.
Its going to be a big leap forward and some if not all will have some major issues no doubt.
You won't really know what those are until you read about it on here.... and it might take a year before you've seen them all appear.
I'm going to need something new in July 2020, not sure what that will be or even what at that point was even orderable. I have a sneaking suspicion that things are going to mean it won't be a Mk8 GTI because its not available by then.
What do you think will have to Mk7.5 production once the first Mk8 (non-GTI) comes out? I suspect all 7.5 production will end.... they won't keep it going just for models they don't have a Mk8 for yet...
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What do you think will have to Mk7.5 production once the first Mk8 (non-GTI) comes out? I suspect all 7.5 production will end.... they won't keep it going just for models they don't have a Mk8 for yet...
I suspect all mk7.5 production will have stopped by the time mk8 production starts. That’s what happened when the mk7 was launched - VW didn’t continue producing performance versions of the mk6, until the mk7 performance versions started being built so I wouldn’t imagine it’ll be any different this time around.
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Just casually browsing the used market for GTIs 2016 onwards (as usual) leaves me with the impression that there are fewer cars available than once was.
I exclude GTDs, Rs and all Estates from the comment above.
Given that the order book is currently closed and who knows where we will all be by early 2019, this suggests a “lean” time for those entering the GTI ownership family got the first time.
Indeed, will the Performance Golf 7.5 order book ever re-open before Golf production shifts to the 8? There’s an interesting thought.
Or am I talking b******s as usual?
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Indeed, will the Performance Golf 7.5 order book ever re-open before Golf production shifts to the 8? There’s an interesting thought.
We can speculate an awful lot but don't have much insider info coming out, at least on this forum.
At a guess I'd say the engines VW will be putting most of the resources into will be those that will be carried over into the next generation or are used prolifically in other models in the range where their investment will be paid back.
Plus I'd imagine the main focus of Golf investment will now be aimed towards the upcoming mk8 unless VW decide to hold that back a year. I doubt the latter as the focus on low emissions worldwide will kind of force VW's hand to get the tech into production as soon as possible.
So it all depends on how easy VW find getting it to pass the new standards with the current bigger engines and where their cut off point is.
The R engine is more likely to have extra resources thrown at it as it will feature in SUV's as well as estates in the shorter term so has a broader scope. Again, this depends on what VW are planning for the mk8 and T-Roc R.
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Since when was the order book closed for the GTI Performance - it's still on the configurator,drive the deal etc - or have I missed something ? - I'm aware the 230ps model isn't available anymore but didn't know about the performance model - is it just temporary for all Golf models until they pass the WLTP test ?
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Since when was the order book closed for the GTI Performance - it's still on the configurator,drive the deal etc - or have I missed something ? - I'm aware the 230ps model isn't available anymore but didn't know about the performance model - is it just temporary for all Golf models until they pass the WLTP test ?
The order book isn't closed, its that as of yet there isn't an acceptable delivery time frame (for many)
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People seem to have such limited memories....
VW have followed the same pattern for a while when it comes to new model releases:
Announce new base models in Summer (usually June/July) (Not GTI, Not R)
Orders start August/September
Deliveries start arriving end of year.
GTI announced following year, orders in June/July, deliveries start towards end of year
R announced Spring (March) following year, orders April/May, deliveries August/September
So GTI not announced until 2020, and you wont get em towards end of year
R wont be announced till 2021, and you wont get that till 2nd half of year
As for specs - usual form is to start rumours of some silly figure (like all the rumours of a 300bhp GTI for the MK7 and now 400bhp for the Golf R Mk8)....reality is usually halfway between current power and the rumoured power.....the rumoured power being closer in some special edition (clubsport or performance) some years later
Buy now, as you will be waiting almost 2 years before a GTI mk8 physically appears on your driveway.....with a fair few glitches that need to be revised out.
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Just casually browsing the used market for GTIs 2016 onwards (as usual) leaves me with the impression that there are fewer cars available than once was.
I exclude GTDs, Rs and all Estates from the comment above.
Given that the order book is currently closed and who knows where we will all be by early 2019, this suggests a “lean” time for those entering the GTI ownership family got the first time.
Indeed, will the Performance Golf 7.5 order book ever re-open before Golf production shifts to the 8? There’s an interesting thought.
Or am I talking b******s as usual?
Yep, I can confirm that order book for GTI PP is definitely open. When we take delivery of the car, that is a different matter...
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People seem to have such limited memories....
VW have followed the same pattern for a while when it comes to new model releases:
Announce new base models in Summer (usually June/July) (Not GTI, Not R)
Orders start August/September
Deliveries start arriving end of year.
GTI announced following year, orders in June/July, deliveries start towards end of year
R announced Spring (March) following year, orders April/May, deliveries August/September
So GTI not announced until 2020, and you wont get em towards end of year
R wont be announced till 2021, and you wont get that till 2nd half of year
Not necessarily limited memories; if someone’s relatively new to the VW scene they maybe unaware of what’s happened historically with new model launches.
VW broke the usual trend with the new Polo though, and the new Polo GTI was announced and previewed at the same time as the non-performance models, and it was available to order 3 months after the order books opened for the non-performance models. So what has happened in the past with the Golf isn’t necessarily a guide to what will happen with the mk8.
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Interesting re Polo. What was the original quoted lead time for new Polo GTI and what is it for an order placed now?
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Interesting re Polo. What was the original quoted lead time for new Polo GTI and what is it for an order placed now?
I think it’s currently around 48 weeks :shocked:. Not sure what the original quoted lead time was, but some members over on uk-polos.net who placed orders as soon as the order books opened (think that was Feb) got their cars late June / early July. I know of one person on that forum who ordered their Polo GTI+ as soon as the order books opened and they are still at stage 2 ‘with the factory’! Admittedly, their car is very highly specc’d with most of the available options, so that could be having an impact on the lead time.
The South African factory at Uitenhage where UK destined Polos are built was closed for around 2.5 months earlier this year; no one really knows why, although WLTP and 2019 MY retooling are probably two of the reasons for the closure. A 2.5 month factory closure will have a huge impact on lead times, as dealers were still taking orders during that time, so there must be a massive back log of customer orders waiting to be fulfilled.
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People seem to have such limited memories....
VW have followed the same pattern for a while when it comes to new model releases:
Announce new base models in Summer (usually June/July) (Not GTI, Not R)
Orders start August/September
Deliveries start arriving end of year.
GTI announced following year, orders in June/July, deliveries start towards end of year
R announced Spring (March) following year, orders April/May, deliveries August/September
So GTI not announced until 2020, and you wont get em towards end of year
R wont be announced till 2021, and you wont get that till 2nd half of year
As for specs - usual form is to start rumours of some silly figure (like all the rumours of a 300bhp GTI for the MK7 and now 400bhp for the Golf R Mk8)....reality is usually halfway between current power and the rumoured power.....the rumoured power being closer in some special edition (clubsport or performance) some years later
Buy now, as you will be waiting almost 2 years before a GTI mk8 physically appears on your driveway.....with a fair few glitches that need to be revised out.
Pretty sure that the Mk7 GTi and GTD were both available to order within 3 months of the non-performance models arriving in showrooms
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=249598.0
and they were at dealers a couple of months after that
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254192.0
That's less than 6 months between first deliveries of non-performance Golf's and GTi's.
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When I ordered my gtd back in 2013 it was ordered on bank holiday Monday at beginning of April but didn't arrive until the 26th September so nearly 6 months.
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My mk7 GTI was ordered about a week after the books opened in early April and it arrived late October 2013.
It would have to be a pretty fantastic car for me to wait that long again.
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Is this spy shot of the new Mk8 for real? I was hoping for more of a revolution than evolution at the front with a more imposing front grill like the Arteon.
https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2020-volkswagen-golf-mk8-really-someone-trying-fool-us/
(https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2020-volkswagen-golf-mk8-really-someone-trying-fool-us/)
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Is this spy shot of the new Mk8 for real? I was hoping for more of a revolution than evolution at the front with a more imposing front grill like the Arteon.
https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2020-volkswagen-golf-mk8-really-someone-trying-fool-us/
(https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2020-volkswagen-golf-mk8-really-someone-trying-fool-us/)
Historically, VW’s approach to design has been evolutionary rather than revolutionary. Whether or not that is a spy shot of an actual mk8, I think you can bank on the mk8 Golf being immediately recognisable as a Golf.
IMO, VW wouldn’t want to alienate the core of loyal Golf owners with a radically different design for the mk8.
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Are these the Mk8 taillights?
https://uk.motor1.com/news/272666/vw-next-gen-golfs-taillights-tease/
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Are these the Mk8 taillights?
https://uk.motor1.com/news/272666/vw-next-gen-golfs-taillights-tease/
Your guess is as good as anyone else’s. If they follow the same design styling as the T-Roc’s rear lights, then the they might be.
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Is this spy shot of the new Mk8 for real? I was hoping for more of a revolution than evolution at the front with a more imposing front grill like the Arteon.
https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2020-volkswagen-golf-mk8-really-someone-trying-fool-us/
(https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2020-volkswagen-golf-mk8-really-someone-trying-fool-us/)
I quickly looked at that link the other day and thought it a bit odd with Honda Civic bumper grilles on a mk7 Golf.
It’s (very likely) obviously a mule of some kind.
Then today I saw an Arteon being parked up and I noticed the shape of the bumper grilles and realised that minus the shiny piano black trim fins they’re not massively dissimilar to that photo.
It’s quite possibly this car is a mk7 testing the mk8 running gear underneath (similar MQB platform) so the bumper could be a cut and shut mock up testing airflow or cooling.
The Arteon is a surpringly handsome car in the flesh incidentally. I wasn’t over impressed with photos of it but in the flesh it’s pretty special for a production VW.
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Is this spy shot of the new Mk8 for real? I was hoping for more of a revolution than evolution at the front with a more imposing front grill like the Arteon.
https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2020-volkswagen-golf-mk8-really-someone-trying-fool-us/
(https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/2020-volkswagen-golf-mk8-really-someone-trying-fool-us/)
The article concludes these pictures are most likely fake. Doesn't look real at all to be honest.
And anyone hoping for a revolution for the Mk8 will probably be disappointed. It's a Golf. It will be an improved version of the Mk7/7.5 in the same way that new 3 Series is. The likes of BMW and VW can't risk their most popular selling models not been well received by the current owners.
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The golf is an evolution. Always has been, always will be. Lord, I can remember the comments when the mk5.5, sorry Mk6, came out. :whistle:
Vw, generally, have got it spot on with the golf so why change it? I think the golf has a classic, recognisable shape. People who don’t know cars will know it.