Racingline or Revo

[Bluest]

I know remaps have been done to death, but i've not been able to get to the bottom of this looking at previous threads. I have Mk7 GTI, manual, non-Performance Pack that is totally standard. I'm looking for a Stage 1 remap for fast road driving, that's all. In many ways I'm looking for the most boring, safest one as I don't really need to be blowing Rs into the weeds or anything and I want to protect the car/clutch as much as possible. I'm not interested in pops and bangs or any of that nonsense.

Handily, my local VAG specialist is both a Revo and Racingline dealer. Their price for stage 1 with either brand is within a few pounds of each other and power/torque maps looks about the same to my untrained eye. Both can be a reduced torque map to help stop clutch leaving the chat the first time I drive it.

My question is, are there any worthwhile reasons to choose one over another, or just flip a coin?

[rowlers]

Unicorn Low torque map, flashed remotely. Job done.
Back to the question, Revo and & RL both very well reviewed and written about, flip a coin.
BUT unless you are upgrading the clutch, it will be toast in no time, hence the recommendation for the low torque map from Unicorn

[MinchCS]

Is the clutch in the Clubsport S any different to the standard GTi?
Given it's 310 bhp mine seems to be coping well. Kiss of death I know....

[Bluest]

My understanding is that it is not the BHP that's the issue, it's the torque. Typically remaps go mad with the torque, hence you can get reduced torque maps that still give the same peak bhp increase, still more torque than standard, but less than the max possible and are easier on the clutch.

[SuperScaff]

I’m Revo low torque it started to make my clutch slip in higher gears within 5k or getting tuned, just had a Helix clutch put in and will be using the high torque file once the clutch has bedded in

[MinchCS]

My understanding is that it is not the BHP that's the issue, it's the torque. Typically remaps go mad with the torque, hence you can get reduced torque maps that still give the same peak bhp increase, still more torque than standard, but less than the max possible and are easier on the clutch.

Makes sense. Thanks.

[EB2019]

Is the clutch in the Clubsport S any different to the standard GTi?
Given it's 310 bhp mine seems to be coping well. Kiss of death I know....

Not sure, but with vin number of a normal GTI  I can check,

however I do know that the 'manual clutch toast' comment may be correct as Rowlers says, however the GTI Performance has the same clutch part number as the Golf R manual, so may be able to handle a small increase.

[dilligolf]

Does your dealer recommend one over the other?

Would the additional features help decide? It looks like Revo has a couple more, increased throttle response, eng temp protection etc. Both offer anti theft, but require additional hardware?

I would think torque is more applicable to road driving, for instant power?

[Bluest]

I have enquired with the dealer about the relative merits of either, but not had anything back yet. I am tempted by having a dongle that lets me swap the map or put back to stock if needed, but it adds quite a bit to the price, and I'm not sure I'd actually use it much in reality.

Revo have just advertised 40% off for Black Friday...

[dilligolf]

I guess with Racingline you'd need the PDM device which means you'd be flashing the tune yourself, and can swap back n fore. Looks like it would also need your phone attached to the PDM each time. You'd be clearing fault codes yourself so would need some understanding of the codes. And probably need a battery charger while flashing.

Revo would be an install by the dealer (who know the codes), and IIRC you can choose which base fuel tune you want. If there's a 40% deal, would that make the SPS switch affordable? Less faffy than the Racingline PDM? Reset to stock would be via the dealer, as IIRC the SPS switch doesn't have a valet/stock tune as standard (think it could be configured for an additional cost).

Edit: The Racingline PDM device is flashing the ECU, while the Revo SPS is choosing a setting in the ECU (like the driving mode).