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Offline centurian

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MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« on: 04 August 2011, 13:25 »
Hi folks,  I'm about to change my 2002 GT TDi for a newer (used) Golf and until recently was set on a 140bhp GT TDi but I then realised that the 170bhp was not too much more on the insurance and appears to deliver the same ecomony.  In fact the only additonal running cost on the 170bhp seems to be that tyres (premium) cost around £50.00 each more then on the 140. 

Can anyone advise please if servicing and running costs in general are more expensive on the GTD over the 140 models?  Any other considerations/tips that may influence which car I go for are welcome.

Also, do either of these models have fancy air con units etc that may require expensive maintenance costs at any point please?  (NB, If I could afford a bespoke Golf I would acutally not have a/con but I realise I'm in the minority here.)

Lastly - is the petrol 1.4 GT TSi worth considering?  (I like Golfs but seek a model that is economical to run with low maintenance costs but also that delivers fun perfomance as & when. Don;t we all!!)



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Re: MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« Reply #1 on: 04 August 2011, 15:05 »
Hello, welcome and good luck.  :smiley:

There are others far more qualified to answer the specifics in running a Diesel Golf but I will say this, avoid the 1.4 TSI unless going for the turbo only low powered model.
The 1.4 twin charged unit is going to be a nightmare when in warranty and a mill stone round your neck when the warranty finishes. Join seatcupra.net and have a look at the mk5 Ibiza section to see the problems people have been having with these amazing engines. VW have modified lots of bits but I wouldn't trust one that is going to go past the warranty period. Admittedly this doesn't apply to every engine, and there have been many that have had no problems. But I wouldn't trust one with my own money.
On the other hand the 1.4 TSI is often offered with a few discounts, but to me this can be worrying too as VW don't discount something unless it is a very slow seller!!

VW aircon is no more troublesome than any other aircon. It needs to be used regularly to keep all the seals doing their job properly. The GTD somes with fancy automatic dual climate aircon which has lots of parts extra to the basic aircon. So potentially lots to go wrong. Most people prefer the dual climate thingy but I prefer the standard aircon.
A lot of mk5 Golfs suffered aircon compressor issues but I think they are a reasonably cheap fix when out of warranty as long as you go to a decent aftermarket specialist. Having said that I sold my mk5 when the aircon started playing up!!
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Re: MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« Reply #3 on: 04 August 2011, 15:58 »
GT TDI is a fine car - I needed the GTD for R&D - just get the car you like best  :wink:

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Re: MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« Reply #4 on: 04 August 2011, 20:13 »
Used gt 140's are much better value than hard to get Gtd's so it just a case of trying to justify the difference in spec and the £3000+ difference for the same age car. I would still buy a Gtd tho : ) unless you can find a nice specced gt 140. Do not buy a gt1.4tsi  could be issues as Andy said out of warranty and very poor economy and resale value at any age.
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Re: MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« Reply #5 on: 04 August 2011, 20:16 »
Oh and economy very similar, I achieved 70.3 mpg on a 16 mile journey today in the Gtd dsg demo I drive.
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Re: MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« Reply #6 on: 04 August 2011, 21:33 »
Oh and economy very similar, I achieved 70.3 mpg on a 16 mile journey today in the Gtd dsg demo I drive.

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Re: MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« Reply #7 on: 04 August 2011, 22:17 »
GTD all the way, my first long life service was only £130 if I remember rightly, so no different than a 140 I expect.  The economy is definetly good even though the figures for the 140 match the 170 I am positive the 140 would be more economical.  But I went from a 140 GT TDI mk5 and the economy is the same as that really.  But its faster and has a much nicer GTI esk interior and exterior.
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Re: MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« Reply #8 on: 05 August 2011, 08:10 »
Thanks for all the replies folks.  Much to consider.  Have decided will be sticking to deisel & will wait to see if a 140 or a 170 within my price range appears first.

Anyone any thoughts on whether a MK6 is a much superior motor to the MK5 (or is there not a lot in it...)

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Re: MK6 GT TDi (140bhp) or MK6 GTD (170bhp)
« Reply #9 on: 05 August 2011, 08:36 »
Thanks for all the replies folks.  Much to consider.  Have decided will be sticking to deisel & will wait to see if a 140 or a 170 within my price range appears first.

Anyone any thoughts on whether a MK6 is a much superior motor to the MK5 (or is there not a lot in it...)

regards

Mk6 is much more refined and a better drive imo gtd with dsg is just brilliant car  :cool:

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