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Offline Malcyb

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Aftermarket HU Dynaudio compatibility
« on: 16 July 2021, 08:45 »
Hi,
As per my other recent thread, I’m currently shopping for a Mk5 or Mk6. One thing I’ll want to do is upgrade the HU to something more modern, simply because for me the usability of Android Auto is a must. It appears that this should usually be pretty straightforward. However does anyone know if that’s also the case with a car fitted with Dynaudio? I was wondering whether this posed much larger technical difficulties - e.g. I know that with my current Audi A2 the upgrade was easy however if it was specced with its optional Bose speaker/amp package it was much harder. This way I can know whether I can safely include Dynaudio fitted cars in my search.
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Re: Aftermarket HU Dynaudio compatibility
« Reply #1 on: 18 July 2021, 14:58 »
Hi Malcyb

This can be done (on a Mk6 not sure on a Mk5), as last year I finally upgraded the RNS510 headunit in my 2009 Mk6 GTI that has Dynaudio fitted.  I went with a Pioneer AVIC-Z930DAB unit.  This Sat Nav unit has wireless Apple CarPlay (and Android Auto), plus with the correct harness adapter it retains the displays for parking sensors, rear view camera and climate controls/heated seats on the head unit.  Albeit Pioneer's graphical versions of these. 

You will lose the "Audio" and "Navigation" information on the car's DIS screen (between your rev counter and speedo though) as I couldn't find a unit that retained that. I believe it's sent over the car's CANBUS network from the headunit and I guess it may be only available via VW's own headunits?

Anyway the tricky bit was getting the correct aftermarket harnesses and leads to connect the headunit to the car and be compatible with the Dynaudio, steering wheel controls and rear view camera etc.  I sent off a few emails to Pioneer tech support and Connects2.com about what products were compatible.

Also I found a VW document that mentioned the way that the Dynaudio amplifier works in the Mk6 and that it has a speaker level of minus 14 dB on each speaker channel.

"The signal inputs on the amplifier are controlled via
the speaker outputs on the radio unit or radio-navigation
unit.

The radio/RNS unit needs to be coded to “Sound” so
that the level of the output channels is reduced by
14 dB."


So I applied this to my speaker level on the Pioneer AVIC-Z930DAB unit.  This cut down the amount of background hiss with no audio source dramatically, plus I guess leaving if you left it at 0 dB you may blow the car's speakers if you have the volume too loud?

I can post what my shopping list was at the time if that helps if you decide to get a Mk6?

Also at the time I upgraded the car's GPS only sharkfin aerial to one that has DAB/FM/GPS on it, along with a Pioneer accessory that converts the VW Multi-Device Interface (MDI) in the centre console (under the arm rest) to a standard USB connection rather than VW's propriety connection.


Cheers

Bluto







« Last Edit: 18 July 2021, 15:29 by Bluto »
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Offline Malcyb

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Re: Aftermarket HU Dynaudio compatibility
« Reply #2 on: 19 July 2021, 08:52 »
Hi Malcyb

This can be done (on a Mk6 not sure on a Mk5), as last year I finally upgraded the RNS510 headunit in my 2009 Mk6 GTI that has Dynaudio fitted.  I went with a Pioneer AVIC-Z930DAB unit.  This Sat Nav unit has wireless Apple CarPlay (and Android Auto), plus with the correct harness adapter it retains the displays for parking sensors, rear view camera and climate controls/heated seats on the head unit.  Albeit Pioneer's graphical versions of these. 

You will lose the "Audio" and "Navigation" information on the car's DIS screen (between your rev counter and speedo though) as I couldn't find a unit that retained that. I believe it's sent over the car's CANBUS network from the headunit and I guess it may be only available via VW's own headunits?

Anyway the tricky bit was getting the correct aftermarket harnesses and leads to connect the headunit to the car and be compatible with the Dynaudio, steering wheel controls and rear view camera etc.  I sent off a few emails to Pioneer tech support and Connects2.com about what products were compatible.

Also I found a VW document that mentioned the way that the Dynaudio amplifier works in the Mk6 and that it has a speaker level of minus 14 dB on each speaker channel.

"The signal inputs on the amplifier are controlled via
the speaker outputs on the radio unit or radio-navigation
unit.

The radio/RNS unit needs to be coded to “Sound” so
that the level of the output channels is reduced by
14 dB."


So I applied this to my speaker level on the Pioneer AVIC-Z930DAB unit.  This cut down the amount of background hiss with no audio source dramatically, plus I guess leaving if you left it at 0 dB you may blow the car's speakers if you have the volume too loud?

I can post what my shopping list was at the time if that helps if you decide to get a Mk6?

Also at the time I upgraded the car's GPS only sharkfin aerial to one that has DAB/FM/GPS on it, along with a Pioneer accessory that converts the VW Multi-Device Interface (MDI) in the centre console (under the arm rest) to a standard USB connection rather than VW's propriety connection.


Cheers

Bluto

Thanks this is really useful. Losing the information on DIS is a small price to pay. Personally I’d probably go for a HU that didn’t have satnav as I always use google maps/waze. Don’t worry about a full shopping list at this stage (I might ask that when I’ve actually got a car to upgrade), but a rough idea of costs would be very handy, in particular how much more expensive you estimate it to be to upgrade a Dynaudio car as opposed to a standard fit one. Presumably even a non-Dynaudio car would have needed a harness so the costs aren’t so different? I take it that changing the level of the output channels was just something you could do in the setup menus for the HU?