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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Carlos67 on 17 June 2021, 21:42

Title: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Carlos67 on 17 June 2021, 21:42
Currently got a Merc A-class 68 plate (new shape) but looking to change to a GTI pp. However, been looking for about 2 months now and just can't find anything with the spec I want.

I'm after a 69 or 20/70 plate 5 door in either blue or grey (would also have red if every other box ticked). I don't want Santiago wheels but would tolerate Brescias. Ideally I'd like Parker's for the better ride.

Must haves are DCC, Dynaudio and car must be mint with ideally less than 15k miles. Budget is £26k

Finding them with DCC and Dynaudio together is a mare.

Currently looking on Auto trader, Motorpoint and VW website (VW approved). If anyone has any other places to look I'm all ears.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: willni on 17 June 2021, 21:56
You really don't need DCC with 18s or 19s IMO the standard suspension is more than comfortable as well as there's less to go wrong.

The below link claims to have everything you want but I can't see the DCC in the photos but does have the Dynaudio.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106093673338?keywords=dynaudio&advertising-location=at_cars&make=VOLKSWAGEN&colour=Blue&colour=Grey&model=GOLF&radius=1500&include-delivery-option=on&aggregatedTrim=GTI%20Performance&postcode=bt275pr&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&sort=mileage&page=1
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Carlos67 on 17 June 2021, 22:02
Thanks, spec wise it's almost perfect and it does have DCC according to the advert. However, the mileage is a bit too high for me as want under 15k and this is more than double that. Thanks anyway 👍🏻
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Dav3smith on 18 June 2021, 09:11
With the current sky high prices of good second hand examples can't you benefit from this and stretch the budget to a new car?
If you're buying second hand now you're paying a huge premium and as you can benefit buy selling your Merc it was just a thought.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: jf111 on 18 June 2021, 13:26
If you added 3-4k to your budget, a TCR is in range and would be more likely to have the options you want
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Carlos67 on 18 June 2021, 18:11
Don't like the idea of a new car because of the initial depreciation. I did think about a new mk8 GTI but would mean a std spec without many toys. I would rather have a late used mk7.5 with lots of options than a base spec new mk8. I actually think the 7.5 is a far better looker too. I've seen reviews for the mk8 and everyone to a man complains about the touch sensitive buttons.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Toeman on 18 June 2021, 18:31
Having had  my cousins cayman for the past day I would seriously think of selling my own 7.5 gti performance  may be of some interest to you  what a blast with that cayman
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 June 2021, 18:49
Don't like the idea of a new car because of the initial depreciation. I did think about a new mk8 GTI but would mean a std spec without many toys. I would rather have a late used mk7.5 with lots of options than a base spec new mk8. I actually think the 7.5 is a far better looker too. I've seen reviews for the mk8 and everyone to a man complains about the touch sensitive buttons.

With the current status of massively inflated used car prices, once that bubble bursts with the restored normal supply of chips (Unless Zorin Industries do perform an operation Mainstrike), you will have hefty initial depreciation on a used Golf.

Get top dollar for the car you have now, get a great discount on a new one and be better off buying new than a year or 2 old with crazy current used prices.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Exonian on 18 June 2021, 23:32
A friend of mine can’t find a DSG PP for love nor money either within a decent travelling distance.
He thought he’d found a decent alternative at the local VW dealer in the form of an ED35 mk6 but it turned out to be an overpriced lemon.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Kpow99 on 19 June 2021, 08:24
If you added 3-4k to your budget, a TCR is in range and would be more likely to have the options you want

Yeah get a TCR  :smiley: I do feel difference with DCC, it does smooth things out nicely. When they drove the TCR on The Ring to set a record at the time the driver have the suspension in comfort mode rather than sport as it help soak up the bumps on cornering.

But good luck finding one these days.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Rudedog on 19 June 2021, 10:01
I took ages to find my GTi, only really wanted a VW approved one so was constantly on the website, nothing fancy as I was going to keep my car until it dies, so blue, standard wheels (cheaper tyres), nice tartan seats and all of the other options I wanted were standard on the late 2019's... the only option I would have liked was the heated front screen (wanted for heat reflection rather than defrosting) but for a £300 option no one really spec'd it so I had no joy.

Luckily one came to a dealer part on my local franchise so they drove it over and I bought it.

But it did take a long time to find one and the timing were just right between the two lock-downs.
 

Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: joe6 on 19 June 2021, 10:34
I wanted a manual and it took me a while to find one with low mileage at a sensible price before the huge price hikes. Late 2019 eventually came up standard spec 2 year vw warranty 3.5k miles but has everything I wanted. The ride is fine without dcc for me.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: madstaff on 19 June 2021, 11:50
I think finding the one, in your preferred colour with all the options you want is gonna be difficult.

I looked at a few before getting mine and I think you just have to be prepared to get the one (without 19s, or whatever, for example) if it ticks all the other boxes or else you may find yourself looking for something that may never come up for sale.

I was extremely lucky when I got my Clubsport as its got all the goodies on it, in a colour I like and is in cracking condition.
I'm glad my Mrs prompted me to reserve it when I did or I'd have missed out.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: willni on 19 June 2021, 12:18
Mines for sale but is above your budget and doesn't meet the colour, DCC or Budget requirements but is high spec and well looked after.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Toeman on 19 June 2021, 12:26
 Certainly if money is right I would insider my own it’s dec18 with all options except dcc and has 22000 miles might not  suit tho
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: SRGTD on 19 June 2021, 12:37
If low mileage is a priority, then I’d buy on condition, mileage and service history and be prepared to forego some of the ‘must have’ options - the standard spec is pretty good and the GTI certainly isn’t a poverty spec car. The more flexible the OP can be on their ‘must have’ options, the more likely they’ll be able to find a really good example that ticks most of their boxes.

Wheels can easily be changed from 19” to 18”. If the OP finds a car that fits most of their requirements but it doesn’t have DCC, they may find after a test drive that the standard suspension is fine and that DCC would be a ‘nice to have’ rather than a ‘must have’. On the subject of Dynaudio; for cars without Dynaudio, VW used to offer a Helix subwoofer on the mk7 Golf as an aftermarket upgrade to the standard infotainment system and I think it was pretty much plug and play; I’m not sure if it’s compatible with the mk7.5 Golf though.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: willni on 19 June 2021, 12:51
If low mileage is a priority, then I’d buy on condition, mileage and service history and be prepared to forego some of the ‘must have’ options - the standard spec is pretty good and the GTI certainly isn’t a poverty spec car. The more flexible the OP can be on their ‘must have’ options, the more likely they’ll be able to find a really good example that ticks most of their boxes.

Wheels can easily be changed from 19” to 18”. If the OP finds a car that fits most of their requirements but it doesn’t have DCC, they may find after a test drive that the standard suspension is fine and that DCC would be a ‘nice to have’ rather than a ‘must have’. On the subject of Dynaudio; for cars without Dynaudio, VW used to offer a Helix subwoofer on the mk7 Golf as an aftermarket upgrade to the standard infotainment system and I think it was pretty much plug and play; I’m not sure if it’s compatible with the mk7.5 Golf though.

The helix does work with the 7.5 it's got a slightly different loom, it's about 80-90% of the Dynaudio IMO, I wouldn't be put off a car without Dynaudio.

I totally agree cars should be bought on condition there's plenty of low miled PCP cars that have been treated poorly and plenty of high miled cars that were loved regularly!

The only thing I chased on the mk7 was a performance pack, sunroof and no black or flat white cars, they're a lovely car even in the most standard form, everything else is just a bonus!
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: SRGTD on 19 June 2021, 13:52
The helix does work with the 7.5 it's got a slightly different loom, it's about 80-90% of the Dynaudio IMO, I wouldn't be put off a car without Dynaudio.

I totally agree cars should be bought on condition there's plenty of low miled PCP cars that have been treated poorly and plenty of high miled cars that were loved regularly!

The only thing I chased on the mk7 was a performance pack, sunroof and no black or flat white cars, they're a lovely car even in the most standard form, everything else is just a bonus!

Lack of Dynaudio wouldn’t put me off either. I had it in my mk6 GTD and I must say I was somewhat underwhelmed by it. I found it was fine if you like lots of base and enjoy listening to music at high volume, but that’s not for me these days. I was also having to constantly adjust the bass, mid and treble (I just like to set and leave). I dare say the next generation Dynaudio in the mk7 / mk7.5 is no doubt an improvement over the previous generation version in the mk6, but I’ve not missed not having it. The Dynaudio logo’d tweeter grilles looked good though :grin:.

I didn’t spec the Beats upgrade in my Polo GTI+ either (I understand the Beats upgrade is also bass-heavy), and IMO a car isn’t the best environment to listen to music and fully appreciate it - I’ll do that at home with the absence of tyre and engine noise in the background.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Rudedog on 19 June 2021, 14:52
I've always driven Golfs over different marks, when I decided to buy my first GTi I thought 'yeah no problem' there's loads out there... but guess what, even though I was told they are common I only see two occasionally on my daily work run... compare that to the ten-a-penny M3's!
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Carlos67 on 19 June 2021, 16:58
Thanks for all your replies and advice chaps (and gals?). I'm beginning to accept that any used GTI will come with 1 or 2 compromises. My red lines though are condition and colour. Of all the colours I think black suits the GTI best and when buffed up and clean really looks premium. HOWEVER! black not for me as my current A-class is black and it's a pig to keep clean and even when clean, shows all the swirl marks when the sun comes out 🙄. A real PIA.

I'm looking to trade mine in to save on hassle and have been offered around £19.5k for mine (was 17.5k only 12 months ago) by Motorway and WBAC. So, looking to spend £5.5 -6k cash plus mine. I would really like the pan roof but have read about issues such as rattles and leaks on them. Anyone with panroofs - have you experienced these issues?

Finally, don't want a club sport as increased nickability, higher ins, lower MPG etc etc - same reason as not wanting an R. Just want something me + Mrs can drive sensibly 80% of the time and have a bit of fun the other 20%. From all the reviews I've watched on the 7.5 GTI PP they conclude that it's the best all rounder and that unless you're a track dude or a true enthusiast, it's all the performance Golf you need.
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Toeman on 19 June 2021, 17:28
Sorry I don’t take trade in lol but hope you get sorted
Title: Re: Struggle to find a GTI PP
Post by: Watts on 19 June 2021, 17:36
I love the sunroof, even on a wet day the extra light in the cabin is great. The roof does need a bit of looking after though, I saw that Audi have a service for them involving cleaning, lubricating the mechanism and seals and of course checking the drain tubes. Leaks are most likely due to the drains getting blocked but are easy enough to check. I don't know about rattling as such but they do creak but again that is down to lubrication which is easy to do.

The other issue which I've had is with the plastic surround cracking but mostly this seems to affect TCRs and is a fitting issue at the factory. Mine was fixed and has been fine since.