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Title: Selling up advice
Post by: Popinman on 05 June 2021, 10:43
Hi guys.

With puppy on the way, I've made a difficult decision to sell my 2018 mk7.5PP, likely to get an Octavia VRS estate.

Anyone with any recent experience of selling, ideally not private sale (can't be doing with the hassle) - WBAC, Motorway, VW dealers apparently looking for stock.....? Any recommendation for brokers maybe?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: willni on 05 June 2021, 10:55
Going with the petrol VRS or the dirty diesel?  :wink:  A friend has the mk3 VRS and the small touches it has where the golf doesn't are incredible.

Well recently the prices of all cars have actually go up in trade in's and people are getting about £500 more than last month. Depending on mileage I'd expect to see anywhere from low £16k to high £18k.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Finglonga on 05 June 2021, 11:33
Part ex when getting the new car? When I got the GTI I part exed my last car and got more than book price for it with haggling.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: SRGTD on 05 June 2021, 11:47
Hi guys.

With puppy on the way, I've made a difficult decision to sell my 2018 mk7.5PP, likely to get an Octavia VRS estate.

Anyone with any recent experience of selling, ideally not private sale (can't be doing with the hassle) - WBAC, Motorway, VW dealers apparently looking for stock.....? Any recommendation for brokers maybe?

Cheers.

Advice would be to do your homework and get valuation quotes from the likes of WBAC, Motorway and Wizzle, and check out what your local VW dealer would offer too. Don’t overlook part exchanging against the replacement car; because of the worldwide shortage of computer chips which is impacting new car production, there’s a high demand for good late date cars and dealers seem willing to pay premium prices for the ‘right’ cars. There’s a part ex valuation tool on VW’s website, which is probably lagging behind the current market position on used car part exchange prices (i.e. it’s p/ex valuations are likely to be on the low side). However, it’ll give you a view of what a VW may offer currently as a minimum if you were to part exchange your car.

With car buying services like WBAC, Motorway and Wizzle, always be honest and up front about any defects or cosmetic damage - even very small stone chips. That way, there’s less chance of any valuation deductions for damage when they view the car, and you’re less likely to be disappointed.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Kpow99 on 05 June 2021, 18:12
WBAC send me a text every couple of weeks and my car has gone up £2k in the last 6 weeks!
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Popinman on 05 June 2021, 20:07
Cheers guys for all your replies.

I'm looking at the petrol VRS. Never going back to diesel...

I'll start putting info in and see what prices are looking like.

Also had an email from the local VW garage looking to buy stock, so will try them too.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: mistac on 09 June 2021, 22:09
 Folks. I am also about to leave the GTi stable. Only had it 15 months and have enjoyed it and always wanted one. However,  I have suffered with stomach problems on and off for many years and even on the 18 inch standard suspension find the ride a bit firm and with possibly a puppy on the way shortly and looking further in head to grandkids et cetera have decided now is the time to make the move given that the values are pretty firm at present. I have decided to get a Skoda Karoq 1.5 DSG Sel (with virtual cockpit of course 😀😀)  Copied my son who got one a few months ago and I’ve been really impressed with it and it will suit my needs I think a bit better in the future. I will probably still deep into the forum now and again  as you are all such a friendly knowledgeable bunch.   In case anyone wishes to know. I tried to sell my car via motorway and the sale value came up about 1600 quid less than the initial guide price. Bit disappointed as it’s only got a couple of minor stone chips et cetera. Will also try we buy any car as their value is pretty strong and hopefully will get over and above what the dealer have offered as a part exchange. Either way I have managed to come out with positive equity thanks to the 0% deal I was on. Happy motoring and stay  safe
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: jf111 on 09 June 2021, 23:08
Friend sold a Porsche 911 via WBAC and it sounded pretty painless. He got more than he would have from a dealer and a lot less hassle than selling something like that privately. They only knocked off about £200 for some small stone chips.

I am thinking of selling my Golf TCR through Motorway as it looks favourable with my current settlement figure. Then I will buy a rubbish car to pop to the shops in while I decide what to buy and save up some money from the payments I'll no longer be making.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Popinman on 10 June 2021, 07:56
Update. Thanks for the advice on using Wizzle. Put the car on, uploaded some photo’s, got a really strong offer from a dealer, agreed the sale, and they are collecting it today. All in the space of 48 hours!

Ended up going for a 2018 Skoda Octavia VRS petrol. Seems a good compromise on space vs pace  :wink:
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Hertsman on 10 June 2021, 09:14
Have used WBAC twice and each time the online valuation was way over the price offered and over what personally expected and this is with 2 x clean cars, so it was not me hoodwinking them on condition, they even do a paint thickness test.

However, the price i wanted was realistic and between the online and their initial, which made clear would happily walk away if not receive and as they were good clean cars, they actually did not want to let me walk, and we agreed good price.

That all sounds a lot, but its 10 mins to get quote and arrange inspection, the inspection is about 20 mins including all documents and about 10 mins on the haggle (as he called his manager, yes really, that one!)

So with these, its matter of setting self a realistic price you could sale private, and if these companies within that ballpark you make the sale, if they are not, you just walk and try the next one, which if you keep having to do that, your expectations are too high, so would say the diligence to understand a good price underpins everything - as someone has said, due to multiple reasons its a good time to sale at moment as know couple how have been pleasantly surprised recently at work, one on Motorway and other on Wizzle
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: jaceyboy on 10 June 2021, 09:34
Imagine what you can get privately if you sell yourself!
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: sjw on 10 June 2021, 10:18
I put my 2018 Mk7.5 PP with 26000 on the clock into WBAC and got offered £20700, for what it's worth
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Popinman on 10 June 2021, 11:52
100% agree with the above in terms of process.

Highly recommend Wizzle, sold this morning, lost very little in 12 months of ownership  :smiley:
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Popinman on 10 June 2021, 11:55
As a result of selling up, I've got a lovely VW supplied rubber type key fob cover, branded black and red with GTi.

Free to a good home to one of you lovely lot.

First come first served....
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: sjw on 10 June 2021, 16:01
Picture?
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: clarky92 on 10 June 2021, 17:31
Used prices are still going vertical, its crazy

This can't go on much longer before it 'bursts' so to speak

19 plate GTI PP 14k miles standard spec and been offered £25200



Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: jf111 on 14 June 2021, 17:54
100% agree with the above in terms of process.

Highly recommend Wizzle, sold this morning, lost very little in 12 months of ownership  :smiley:

Thanks for the recommendation, sold mine via Wizzle too.

My car was collected this morning. Got a great price, money in the bank before they took it away, absolutely no hassle. Way easier than selling privately!
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: madstaff on 14 June 2021, 19:44
Popinman, I've sent you a PM.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: CookieMonsterGTi on 15 June 2021, 19:30
Was offered 30,250 for my TCR on WBAC!
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Watts on 16 June 2021, 11:38
I've just booked an appointment with webuyanycar to sell my Mum's Toyota Aygo. I don't like all the fees however my Mum isn't local and she's not capable of sorting out the sale on her own so as much as I wanted to go down the Motorway route, webuyanycar here we come! Having said all that, the quote so far is £1150 more than she was anticipating so I'm pretty sure that even after fees and some nitpicking, she should be happy.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: willni on 17 June 2021, 12:55
Used prices are still going vertical, its crazy

This can't go on much longer before it 'bursts' so to speak

19 plate GTI PP 14k miles standard spec and been offered £25200

That's strange I put my 19 plate GTI PP with 6k miles and big spec through and was offered £25,025. Probably no real rhyme nor reason behind a lot of the figures.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Moro on 18 June 2021, 14:32
Well, just sold my 2013 GTi (owned since new) via Wizzle to a dealer  :sad: . As a second car I just don't use it much these days, but I know I'll miss it so declined to sell it to a friend to avoid seeing it again. So little hassle, and a really good price too. Money paid into my account before they left. Hope it eventually goes to a good home.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 June 2021, 18:16
Just reading this has prompted me to get another valuation for my 2019 Polo GTI+ that I offloaded 2 weeks ago. The Motorway valuation is  £17778, up from £17147.

Crazy. Even with what I got for it, the car's cost me a net £143 a month in depreciation.

Dealers were offering £15600 "top CAP" price.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Ceefeesh on 19 June 2021, 02:05
Looked at values for my June 2018, non PP, 230bhp, 6 speed dsg, 11,000 miles. Initial estimates, Motorway £23,100 and WBAC  £20,650. Food for thought.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: willni on 19 June 2021, 08:45
Used prices are still going vertical, its crazy

This can't go on much longer before it 'bursts' so to speak

19 plate GTI PP 14k miles standard spec and been offered £25200

That's strange I put my 19 plate GTI PP with 6k miles and big spec through and was offered £25,025. Probably no real rhyme nor reason behind a lot of the figures.

Since posting Motorway have changed their valuation to £25,610, although having had the car for a few months it's very tempting to put it up for sale privately, but would need a bit since I wrapped the front end.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: MrJollygood on 19 June 2021, 13:51
Well, just sold my 2013 GTi (owned since new) via Wizzle to a dealer  :sad: . As a second car I just don't use it much these days, but I know I'll miss it so declined to sell it to a friend to avoid seeing it again. So little hassle, and a really good price too. Money paid into my account before they left. Hope it eventually goes to a good home.

Out of interest what was the offer? Mine's a 2013 GTi PP too...

Thanks
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Watts on 19 June 2021, 15:30
I've just booked an appointment with webuyanycar to sell my Mum's Toyota Aygo. I don't like all the fees however my Mum isn't local and she's not capable of sorting out the sale on her own so as much as I wanted to go down the Motorway route, webuyanycar here we come! Having said all that, the quote so far is £1150 more than she was anticipating so I'm pretty sure that even after fees and some nitpicking, she should be happy.

Just got back from webuyanycar having sold my Mum's Aygo. I was quite impressed as to just how easy it all was, polite and professional too. My Mum was very pleased with the price she got too :smiley:
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: clarky92 on 19 June 2021, 15:37
I've just booked an appointment with webuyanycar to sell my Mum's Toyota Aygo. I don't like all the fees however my Mum isn't local and she's not capable of sorting out the sale on her own so as much as I wanted to go down the Motorway route, webuyanycar here we come! Having said all that, the quote so far is £1150 more than she was anticipating so I'm pretty sure that even after fees and some nitpicking, she should be happy.

Just got back from webuyanycar having sold my Mum's Aygo. I was quite impressed as to just how easy it all was, polite and professional too. My Mum was very pleased with the price she got too :smiley:

Any tips for selling to WBAC to get the best price? Not done it before and due to take the other half’s car there tomorrow.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Watts on 19 June 2021, 16:55
Not really, they look over the car as you'd expect and check the service history, then give you a price. You may or may not be able to haggle, we didn't as my Mum was very happy and it seemed more than reasonable to me bearing in mind the MoT and service was due by the end of the month.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: clarky92 on 19 June 2021, 20:10
Not really, they look over the car as you'd expect and check the service history, then give you a price. You may or may not be able to haggle, we didn't as my Mum was very happy and it seemed more than reasonable to me bearing in mind the MoT and service was due by the end of the month.

Thanks - won’t need to go now, the dealer gave a way better px when negotiating the misses new car!
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: IanD on 21 June 2021, 11:41
I sold my 69 plate GTI PP via Motorway a few weeks ago.
Hadn’t heard about them until mentioned on this forum so thought I would give it a go and see what price I could get since I was having an unhappy experience after buying the car through a VW dealer end of last year and wanting to return it.

Initial quote before I uploaded pictures was very optimistic ( nearly £1.6k higher than WBAC initial price)
Price went down from initial conversation, down again after photos sent, down again when offers came in and still had to have a final price discussion when the company came to collect. 

But overall I was happy with the end price and the process all seemed well thought out, only downside was at each stage the price always went down and bartering at last stage for stuff I had clearly stated as flaws and photographed and described I wasn’t happy to accept another price reduction on.

In the end still sold for a few hundred £‘s more than WBAC initial offer (and I know final price would be less) and over £600 more than selling dealership was offering as ‘a great deal’ to trade in for other cars.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Ceefeesh on 21 June 2021, 12:12
Spoke to Motorway this morning, uploaded my photos and they are now about to advertise for offers. After examining the photos, the quote for my 18 plate GTI, remains £23k. I’ll wait and see how much they ‘chip off’  along the way. If it stays decent I’ll probably sell, if not, with 11,149 miles, it’s a keeper.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CK9Hj2F/81425894-6-D92-4626-88-AC-7-D4-DC8-CC2-C5-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqPx466R)

PS If anyone is interested in a good value, 5 digit Northern Ireland plate, comprised of  three letters and the number 12, let me know as I will probably sell it too.

Does anyone know if I can suspend or freeze  my insurance for a couple of months as personal circumstances mean it may suit me to leave buying another car for a few months?
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 June 2021, 13:12
Although I didn't follow through with Motorway, it did seem positive as someone with 6 miniscule stone chips and immaculate, never been scraped wheels. The give you an initial value based purely on mileage, then you have to gonon and take photos. On that basis, it's unsurprising that they'd chip you down a little if your car isn't immaculate because their first number will be generated on the basis that it is.

Had a woman on the phone asking me to take photos of stone chips so small, it was hard to focus the phone's camera on them. She didn't knock me down any further.

I got the price and went to the guys I sold my R to so they could match it without any potential issues later.

Difference between WBAC and Motorway is, WBAC are buying for themselves and are highly motivated to chip you down once you get the car in front of them. Motorway just sets you up with a buyer and are looking to ensure car isn't falsely represented on condition when the buyer turns up.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Ceefeesh on 21 June 2021, 15:25
Just have to wait and see what value of offers arrive now. Northern Ireland prices may not be in line with GB prices. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Ceefeesh on 22 June 2021, 23:19
As part of the process to see what offer I get via Motorway, I have been asked to prove the service history, which has been maintained, in addition to a series of questions and 16 photos. I do not have the receipts to hand (I know where they are but it is an awful lot of bother to get them) To prove they have been done is there some way I can obtain a record from VW? Thanks.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: SRGTD on 22 June 2021, 23:44
As part of the process to see what offer I get via Motorway, I have been asked to prove the service history, which has been maintained, in addition to a series of questions and 16 photos. I do not have the receipts to hand (I know where they are but it is an awful lot of bother to get them) To prove they have been done is there some way I can obtain a record from VW? Thanks.

Assuming your car’s service history is digital, then your VW dealer should be able to provide you with a print out - that’s assuming your car has been serviced by VW.

Seem to remember reading somewhere that the dealer may need proof of identity or proof of ownership of the vehicle before they provide the print out - maybe other forum members who have asked for a copy of their service history can confirm whether or not this is required.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Ceefeesh on 23 June 2021, 00:49
Thanks SRGTD. The servicing has been done at my local VW dealer. I also have a remaining service and a years warranty to ask about too.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 June 2021, 10:47
Just phone the dealer up you got your kastservice with, they'll email you a PDF of your digital service history. That's what I did a few weeks ago for selling the Polo.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Ceefeesh on 30 June 2021, 20:27
Just phone the dealer up you got your kastservice with, they'll email you a PDF of your digital service history. That's what I did a few weeks ago for selling the Polo.

Thanks I did that and had copy invoices in minutes. I have spoken to Motorway and got their valuation. They advertised it and I have now have received a bid but it’s £1,000 under their valuation so I haven’t been tempted just yet. They are now chasing me to discuss so I’ll see what they have to say.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: dubber36 on 01 July 2021, 08:17
We recently sold our 2016 Tig R Line through Motorway. As it gets auctioned, it all depends who is out there and wants it badly enough.

The dealer offered £10,250 in PX against the discounted price of the new car. WBAC valued it at £11,000 on line, the Motorway valuation was £11,600. We went with Motorway and it made £12,150. The dealer that bought it collected it within 48 hours and transferred the money before driving it away.

Completely hassle free and we were £1900 better off.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 July 2021, 08:49
I had to tell Motorway to bugger off. Sold my brother in laws 2012 mini through them, guy turned up and without driving it said the car was overheating (I'd just pulled up at the house with the air con on and it was 23° outside). He then goes for a drive and comes back to say it needs a new clutch and he facetimed his mechanic to show him 😂. Suffice to say he was chased as the clutch was perfectly fine and it wasn't overheating. Motorway though believed every word he said and told me the faults needed fixed before they would relist. After I'd explained that the car had no faults they insisted on me paying for an independent check to which my second word was off! I assumed a full service history one owner car with 51k on the clock and immaculate paint would sell no problem. Apparently even through Motorway you still get sharks.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Meister on 02 July 2021, 23:21
What the hell is going on with used car values... I have a mint standard 2018 '68' plate GTI, which I bought 18 months ago for £22,500. The car has now done 20,000 miles.

Out of pure interest I went onto Motorway to get a quote, expecting it to be around £17,000 max. They are offering a valuation of £21,750! Is something going on that I don't know about, but surely this is unheard of! I thought the website must be wrong, so I checked WBAC, and they are offering almost the same....

I love my car and have no intention of selling, as wouldn't want anything else, but that surely is tempting, as I have has almost 2 years of nearly depreciation free motoring.

Can anyone shed any light on this mad situation? I am so tempted to sell as this can't continue...
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: SRGTD on 03 July 2021, 00:14
What the hell is going on with used car values... I have a mint standard 2018 '68' plate GTI, which I bought 18 months ago for £22,500. The car has now done 20,000 miles.

Out of pure interest I went onto Motorway to get a quote, expecting it to be around £17,000 max. They are offering a valuation of £21,750! Is something going on that I don't know about, but surely this is unheard of! I thought the website must be wrong, so I checked WBAC, and they are offering almost the same....

I love my car and have no intention of selling, as wouldn't want anything else, but that surely is tempting, as I have has almost 2 years of nearly depreciation free motoring.

Can anyone shed any light on this mad situation? I am so tempted to sell as this can't continue...

I suspect the current trend of inflated used car values is largely down to the market forces of supply and demand, driven by the worldwide shortage of semiconductors (computer chips) which is creating supply issues for the motor industry - and any other industry that uses semiconductors.

If car manufacturers are being forced through circumstances into building fewer new cars because the shortage of semiconductors;
These factors increase the demand for good quality nearly new vehicles, and excess demand over supply means values increase.

When this bubble of inflated used car values will burst is anyone’s guess, but news reports are stating that semiconductor shortages are likely to be an issue for car manufacturers for some months to come. The problem for anyone taking advantage of the current market is that they may get a good price for their current vehicle, but they’re then faced with the dilemma of;
Interesting times……………..
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Verve34 on 03 July 2021, 21:28
I bought my Gti Pp in dec from local vow dealer for 27 grand , went on WBAC last week they offered 28 went on motorway yesterday got offered 29.406 ( where they get 06 is beyond me) been to test drive clubsport today from local dealer got offered 28 . I never ever thought they would pay me a grand more than I payed after I put 3500 miles on car
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: dubber36 on 05 July 2021, 16:16
But how much more is the Clubsport you are looking at against what it would have been last December?

The 'offer' from Motorway is not an actual offer to buy. It's a guide to what it might make through their auction. If you are not sure how it works, Motorway are an auction house that offer cars to subscribing dealers. The dealers then bid and after the auction, you get offered the highest bid. You don't have to accept it if you don't feel it's high enough.

If you are going ahead with the CS, you could always go through the Motorway process to see if it makes more money in the time it takes the dealer to get the CS ready for you.
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Meister on 28 August 2021, 12:51
Been tracking the value of my 2018 GTI (standard 230bhp model), and it is now worth £23,000 through we buy any car and similar. I only paid £22,000 18 months ago.

The value is going up so much I am seriously considering selling it and buying a cheap run-around until prices come down, so I can buy a TCR or similar.

The dilemma is that I absolutely adore my car, so am reluctant to sell! Agggh, is anyone else in this position, or any advice!?
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: P6GTD on 28 August 2021, 23:07
It’s like house prices.
Only relevant if you have a spare one to sell.
Relax and enjoy your car…… and feel a wee bit pleased that you have one!
Title: Re: Selling up advice
Post by: Arnold_Lane on 03 September 2021, 16:08
Today I sold my Golf Gti PP (2017) through Wizzle, from the CARWOW site and thought I'd give a quick feedback on my selling experience as a whole.

Initially I looked at Motorway and used their online estimator for a price and was quite pleased with the number so proceeded to start the process of selling through them. Added photos and some details but had to wait to speak to one of their agents before the car was ready to be advertised to their dealer partners. With it being a long weekend I couldn't actually get through until last Tuesday.
In the meantime I had had an email from them suggesting I should recheck the value of my car. I did and it had gone up approx £450 (now this might simply be a ploy, I don't know). Anyway, when I spoke to an agent and went through the process he said that I would have to agree to accept 'as a minimum' a price £4,000 less than their on line estimate - he couldn't offer any sensible reason why the price differed so much and mumbled about when prices are checked.
So I didn't progress with them and couldn't recommend them if my experience is anything to go by.

Now the Wizzle add went live earlier and I had a few dealer offers a bit lower than I had hoped for. Then a used car dealer made an offer and then after a little email exchange upped their offer by £500.
I sat on it for a few days (partly because I was waiting for the 1st of the month in order for the final PCP payment to be made to VWFS) and then decided to accept as I didn't want to tax the car and it was also coming up to a service.

So driver arrived on the train at lunchtime today. I collected him and he had a quick look around the car and the paperwork and phoned his boss and payment was made. It really was that straightforward.
I understand Wizzle charge the buyers a fee of £300, so taking that into account the car went for quite close to my asking price.

Sorry to see the car being driven off, as I've enjoyed the past 4 years of driving it, with only two negative areas that reduced the overall experience:

1. Road / wind noise - I always thought it was a nosier drive than I had hoped for.
2. Driver comfort - every journey I took that lasted longer than 1½ to 2 hours resulted in me getting cramp / spasms down my right butt check and down my right leg. I altered the driving position many, many times but could never find the position that allowed comfort on an extended drive. Several times I had to stop and walk around for 20 minutes before continuing.

So I now have a six month wait for my new car and am frantically looking for a cheapie runabout that won't cost a fortune to buy or maintain (there's a lot of rubbish out there as I have already found out).