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General => New forum members => Topic started by: ash_rage on 04 April 2021, 12:29
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Hello all
My names Ashley, I live in Billericay, Essex, 36, born and raised in North London.
Ordered a new GTI Clubsport yesterday in Pearl Oryx White.
Currently looking at 16 week lead time, its gonna drag.
I’ve gone a bit crazy in the optional extras:
Harman/Kardon Sound System
19” Estoril Alloys
Dynamic Chassis Control
Rear View Camera
Digital Key
Front and Rear Dashcam
Was torn between this colour and moonstone, decided against the moonstone after I saw it on a ID.3
I have a tonne of questions, I’ll look around on the forum before asking.
I’m no stranger to vw, my wife has a 2018 GTE, I’ve own a 2017 GTE Advanced, a 2015 GTD and a Passat many years ago
I have an interesting car history I think...
Noticeable cars, I had an FN2 Type R that I supercharged and modded every thing you can imagine, I’ve had every Type R since including a few limited edition Mugens along the way.
The car am selling for the GTI Clubsport is a Tesla Model 3 Performance in Red, I can’t imagine many have done that!
Why you ask? Tesla isn’t cheap I can’t warrant a car like that sitting on the drive another year with little use, before Covid I used to travel a lot, I can’t see that returning for me. Whilst the car is very VERY fast and interesting from a software perspective it just doesn’t have the excitement of a petrol car that sounds great. I was toying with the R, another Type R and even for a crazy moment a 911 but decided to return to the fun world of hot hatches and learn about the GTI like I did my FN2 Type R. Also I feel like the mrk8 GTI will be part of history and I want to say I own the last one (queue annoying facelift announcement in a few years lol)
Looking forward to getting involved in all the forum topics and hopefully contributing, I was a prolific member of civinfo back in the day, would be good to find the GTI version of that community from early 2010s
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Hopefully you'll find lots of helpful info in the Mk8 subforum :smiley:
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Hi Ashley, if you want a more limited and special MK8, why not wait a while and order an Edition 45? It sounds likely to be a CS with stickers and a fancy exhaust but it will at least be different.
And another welcome to the forum!
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Is this a wind up? :huh:
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Hi Ashley, if you want a more limited and special MK8, why not wait a while and order an Edition 45? It sounds likely to be a CS with stickers and a fancy exhaust but it will at least be different.
And another welcome to the forum!
Nah I’m committed now, looking forward to it
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Is this a wind up? :huh:
No, why?
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Welcome!
That's a curious round the houses.
I know you said the tesla was expensive and not getting used much but your clubby is hardly cheap especially with those options on it.
I can't say I've heard of anyone ditching any eV in favour of ice, let alone one widely perceived as the best out there (even if i personally dislike them as typical American poorly built cars)
Should be interesting... Have you actually driven a clubby?
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Welcome!
That's a curious round the houses.
I know you said the tesla was expensive and not getting used much but your clubby is hardly cheap especially with those options on it.
I can't say I've heard of anyone ditching any eV in favour of ice, let alone one widely perceived as the best out there (even if i personally dislike them as typical American poorly built cars)
Should be interesting... Have you actually driven a clubby?
Yes I’ve driven a mrk7
Yeah it’s odd I admit.
I got a load of money off via carwow so wasn’t as expensive as list price
Whilst the Clubsport isn’t cheap the Tesla was double the price. In a world we’re I drove all the time it was worth it. But those days aren’t returning
With the Clubsport if I don’t use it, it doesn’t need petrol simple as. Doing the maths on the ROI was based on me doing 30k a year. Now I’ll be barely doing 10k. So the Tesla would never have been worth it
If you live with the model 3 for a year like I did the only excitement it offered was the straight line speed which gets old after a while and software updates. There is no substitute for the sound and feel of a petrol engine in my eyes. Also if I wanted to mod the Tesla I can’t with the Clubsport if I want to later, I can
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That's very interesting comment Ash.
We've been discussing the EV future on here for for the last couple of days... wondering if "fun" was possible with an EV yet.
Sounds like you've just ended that discussion lol.
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That's very interesting comment Ash.
We've been discussing the EV future on here for for the last couple of days... wondering if "fun" was possible with an EV yet.
Sounds like you've just ended that discussion lol.
I’ll find the post and offer my opinion
But yeah you get it. It isn’t fun. Huge straight line speed is great but it gets samey after a while. You can’t use any of it in the corners on a uk road so what’s the point
The software updates is exciting and the FSD was good but I don’t buy a car for it to drive me and get excited by getting the ability to make my car fart
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Welcome Ash :smiley:
A very nicely specced Clubsport on its way by the sounds of it.
Interesting views on the Tesla. The Tesla would be more likely compared to a 3 Series BMW with one of the better engines as far as covering ground goes I guess, but it would be great to hear a bit more about its handling and how it pulls you out of tight corners. Being as you come from a background of some of the best handling hot hatches your views would be fascinating.
As for the Clubsport, I’ve had mine for a little over three months, it won’t give you quite the thrills of a CTR but it has a breadth of abilities and feels very up to the minute.
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Welcome Ash :smiley:
A very nicely specced Clubsport on its way by the sounds of it.
Interesting views on the Tesla. The Tesla would be more likely compared to a 3 Series BMW with one of the better engines as far as covering ground goes I guess, but it would be great to hear a bit more about its handling and how it pulls you out of tight corners. Being as you come from a background of some of the best handling hot hatches your views would be fascinating.
As for the Clubsport, I’ve had mine for a little over three months, it won’t give you quite the thrills of a CTR but it has a breadth of abilities and feels very up to the minute.
Thank you.
Few of the CTRs I had were rubbish but I loved my FN2 after I modded it. The FK8 was great but really could have done with a better sounding exhaust, when I had it the US market hadn’t got to modding it and I moved on.
The Tesla couldn’t really handle snow despite being 4WD.
It had great tools once track mode was made available. I did enjoy a few slides with all the power to the rear. Handling wise it felt like a very heavy car. It couldn’t carry speed in corners really. Straight line speed was brutal, it would make my stomach turn when I first got it but quickly became used to it.
Don’t get me wrong is a lovely car, but for me it cost a fortune and I just wasn’t covering the miles to warrant it and I miss the sound of an ICE
I do want to mod the Clubsport, but being a novice to the VW modding scene I don’t know much yet.
By the time I had my last NA CTR I knew the K20 engine series setup like the back of my hand and knew what was limiting and what wasn’t. I look forward to learning about the clubby and in the future modding it
Already got it booked in for wing mirror and roof wrapping. I’ll coat it too. Then I’ll just wait for mods to become available.
Hondas have this tool for tuning and data logging called hondata, is there an equivalent for this car?
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If you mean something for probing into the control systems, it's called vcds or obdeleven.
Only thing is that your mk8 along with any other oem's 2021 models have a highly secure computer system as mandated by eu regulations. Volkswagen call it sfd and its unlikely anyone is about to bypass it any time soon. Certainly diy tinkering is off the menu.
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As fredgroves says, those are the two main VW diagnostic devices that can be used to dig deep into the car’s brain except... the mk8 has all the shutters down as far as much of the functionality is concerned thanks to security protocols that have been increasingly stringent on each successive generation of ECU.
Same goes for OBD modding, they can’t crack the security yet.
I think if anyone wants more power out of a Clubsport mk8 right now they’d have to take the add-on box route which isn’t ideal (there’s always going to be a very slight lag using these devices unlike an ECU remap) but the Burger Motorsports JB4 is almost as good as a full remap. I’m
Not sure if it’s available yet for the mk8 though, but they will be working on it.
For chassis tuning I’d be wary of anything that messes with the carefully set up geometry. VW spent a fair bit of effort and time on this feature.
Early days yet though and it won’t be long until stuff comes to market from the big boys of VW tuning.
I’m also thinking about mirror and roof wrap for my Clubsport. I won’t be going further than that with mods though. I’m trying to change a habit of a lifetime!
It’s very interesting reading your further thoughts on the Tesla. I wonder how you’ll rate the Clubsport after all that EV thrust?!
One of my workmates is heavily into JDM stuff so I’m quite familiar with NA Civics, they’re too much like hard work for me! I’ve never been one for wringing the neck of cars for performance, I like lazy easy power :grin:
He currently has two JDM imports, an FD2 and a 2013 ish Scooby hatchback which apparently runs slightly lower displacement than Euro STI’s but is better(?). No idea why, it’s all Japanese to me! I’ve been messing about with VW’s for something like 34 years so have a bit of familiarity with the brand but am pretty clueless about everything else.
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Cancelled my CS order today and agreed a deal with DTD for a CS45, waiting for the dealer to call me back