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Title: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 08 October 2015, 23:41
I’ve had my R a full week now, and whilst it’s still early days, thought I post (quite) a few observations on the car. 

Starting with….

Drive:

Bloody brilliant!  Early days, but has exceeded my expectations already. 

Handling is taught, sharp, precise, and responsive.  The chassis is stiff and agile.  Planted and super grippy, it’s a much lighter and more engaging drive than I was anticipating.  It still delivers the fun with plenty of aplomb, but without any unwelcome drama, and with a markedly different personality to a GTI.  Begs to be driven hard, in and out of the bends. Good turn in and less understeer than I was expecting.  Must say the turning circle is noticeably bigger, requiring a change of habit in regular, familiar scenarios such as parking on my driveway, but already adjusting to it.

The  power is addictive and eagerly available when you call upon it.  Plenty of torque throughout the range for smooth, reliable and consistent acceleration.  In terms of accessing the power – I do like the top mounted throttle pedal which I was a little reticent about, after years of floor mounted throttle pedals.  Throttle response could be a little snappier, you do need to put some effort to get the response.

DSG – great as always, that seductive sound of it moving through the gear changes.  I was converted 7 years ago and no going back now.  This generation has none of the jerkiness in S of the previous version.  However as always in D goes up through the gears too quickly, and in S hangs onto the gears a touch too long.  Fine if you are solo, but get some funny looks from passengers wondering why the engine is snarling away, lol.!  Something in between would be perfect, but that's where Manual and the paddles come in.  Just wish the paddles had a bit more presence to them.  Am looking at extensions.

Driver Profiles - trying out the various ones, and switch between them depending on mood.  Only one I haven’t spent any time in is Eco.  I’m mainly using Individual with this setup:

DCC - Sport (occasionally Normal)
Steering - Sport
Drive – Normal or Sport
ACC - Normal
Interior engine sound - Eco
Aircon – Normal
Dynamic lighting – Sport

Soundaktor – always controversial and divisive, but with the now ability to alter the volume in Individual mode,  it’s absolutely acceptable at Eco setting, not intrusive and does not interfere or detract from the Dynaudio.  But, still great to have the option to have fake noise should the mood take me.  Real engine noise and exhaust note - sublime!  Can't get enough of that growl and pop.

Tech:

Keyless  - a breeze to use.  Was worried beforehand that it might be hit and miss, and I might end up leaving the car unlocked, but it's really very simple.  Love it.  And only a couple of times have I gone to put a key in the non existent ignition.  A convert to the Start and Stop Engine button.

ACC - yet to use this but plans to do so on a winter trip to Yorkshire.

DCC – as expected. 

E-brake/Autohold – took about an hour to be won over by this. 

Stop/Start - don't mind it at times, but adds a nanosecond too much time to pulling away for my liking, so gets switched off when I remember (town driving).

Front Assist - had only a couple of warnings but no braking intervention as yet.  Either I’m a better driver than I thought, or it doesn’t  work, lol.

Parking sensors and rear camera.  Handy at times, but could live without them, still like to use my own judgement.

There’s a lot of new-ish tech, compared to my previous car, and where it properly aids the driver, without becoming a hindrance, it is very, very good.

Interior:

I think the black piano gloss is very nice, but it is a mega dust magnet.  I have a microfibre always to hand to keep the dust at bay, and just as well.  Though I like the dark cabin, I think a few more blue trim accents would have made it a bit more special.  So to introduce a bit more colour I’m swapping the harsh white footwell lights for some blue LEDs.  The illuminated blue door and sill strips are a nice feature, though the sill guards themselves are not up to that job, is I’m ordering some additional guards.

Surprisingly I like the headrests.  Was a massive fan of the older style that wrapped over the top of the seat, so was rather disappointed to see they had changed them.  But in the flesh new style ones really suit the car.  Like the R logo on them.

The MiB2 unit -  is great, the larger screen really finishes off the cabin, screen resolution is good.  The touchscreen is miles better than older generations which were very temperamental and clunky.  Discover Pro Nav - used it on the recent Windsor trip.  Very impressed.  CarPlay works well.  Yet to try the Mirror link and Car-net App Connect.

Dynaudio – just excellent.  Head and shoulders above previous gen, even in its yet to be burned-in state, it’s very, very good.  Will be superb after about 60 hours.  Money well spent.

Steering wheel, thinner than my previous, but I like it a lot.  Except I find the button placement is not quite as intuitive as old style.  Ergonomics slightly off, and I miss the mute button of old which is absent this time round. The dials are lovely as are the blue needles.  Found the indicator/wiper stalks a bit flimsy at first but got used to them now.

Centre console is well designed apart from the Mode button / StopStart button / ESP button, which are poorly positioned on left and hard to see - would be much better on the right side the gear stick, but guess thats a result of it being a LHD design throwback. Cup holders - great and the 'claw' feature very useful for securely gripping cups. Rear cup holders much better located in the load through arm rest.

Window buttons - not as ergonomically perfect as in a Mk6 (angled) but small price to pay for the other improvements.

Prefer the faux carbon trim on gearstick, doors and around dash to previous trim, looks more premium compared to the my old trim which was a bit incongruous.  This is much more in-keeping style-wise with the rest of the car.

Love the leather seats and white stitching. But I can see it sagging quicker than the mk6 leather.  Preferred the lumbar 4 way rocker switch of old, as the basic handle control on the side of the seat seems crude and a step back, but cost cutting I guess.

Reduced boot space.  Significantly smaller, but just travel lighter.  Have crammed a a lot of my work gear around the wheel well.

On the whole I like the interior a lot, I would say it is an upgrade, plus it looks and feels distinctly different from the Mk6 which enhances the experience. 

Exterior:

Colour – you might be forgiven for thinking I might be bored with Deep Black Pearl after a fair few black Golfs, but no!  Very glad I chose it for the 7R as I think it looks stunning.  Yes you lose the contrast of the black accents, but gain a sleek, stealth look.  I like both the brushed silver wing mirrors and lip more than I thought I would, and they add just enough ‘interest’ without blinging or tarting it up to much.

Pretoria wheels (19”) – rumoured to have caused the long, long wait, but what can I say – worth it IMO.  A lovely wheel, like a lightweight motorsport wheel, adds an elegance to the car, which stops DBP, looking too heavy and clumpy.  Very easy to clean.

Tyres – ContiSportContact 5Ps – thank the Lord!  Have run these faultless tyres for last 3 years, and very, very pleased to get them on the R. 

Front end - the front end actually looks more aggressive in the flesh, and like the grill.  Bit sick of honeycomb grills after 3 GTIs, so a nice change.  Love the intakes and don't miss having fog lights.  love the double LED headlights.

Rear end  - absolutely love the smoked rear LEDs, especially against the black bodywork.  Quite surprised how little there is of the rear spoiler.  Assumed it would be of a similar size/depth to the mk6 but it's much shallower.  And, the black plastic side bits make it look even less prominent, but overall it suits the sharper shape of the car.  Love the gloss black rear diffuser.  Always hated the textured grey 6GTI one, but never got around to spraying it gloss black.

Exhausts - even though 4 exhausts are overkill for a 4cyl, I love them.  And I think this car needs something a bit showy at the rear to offset the subtlety of the front end.

Sides - The wing R badges - now I thought I was going to hate these, as was not keen on them in the pics, but, they seem to work on black.  Maybe because Deep Black doesn't have the contrast against the black grill and other black trim, the badges add something without it looking blingy.  Deeper side skirts are much better.

When I first saw the Mk7 exterior changes, I was not sold.  But now I've had it on my drive for just over a week, I'm definitely sold now!

Conclusion  - Awesome!!!  It’s a fantastic car.  A capable but utterly exhilarating drive, and still admirably practical on a daily basis. 

And here’s are the things I’m really glad I specced:

Dynaudio
DCC
Keyless
Discover Pro

Finally…..

Without a doubt the best car I've had to date (so far)!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 09 October 2015, 07:57
So......You like it then !!  :wink:
I am so glad I swapped my Mk7 GTI for my R even though I questioned my sanity having only had the GTI 11 months  :whistle:
Have to agree about the turning circle. It can be so embarrassing trying to manoeuvre it around car parks.
But that is my only gripe that I couldn't do anything about. The other two minor grumbles have been sorted and you are about to rectify this on yours as well with the footwell lights and door sill protectors.
Dynaudio. Agreed, it is superb. I have had it on my last four cars and it was the first tick in the box with this one too.
I quite like the soundaktor it doesn't bother me one way or another unlike some people who have gone to the trouble of disconnecting it  :undecided:
I had DCC on my Scirocco's but didn't spec it on the first Mk7 and didn't miss it as the MQB chassis is so good. The ride in my R is slightly firmer maybe due to the Pretoria's but not bad enough to warrant £800 ish to leave it in one setting (which is what happened in the Scirocco's)
Mine has done 5K now and is returning 30-31mpg average which I am more than happy with.
I leave it in Race mode most of the time now as my better half has bought a Fiat 500 as a 2nd car/Teenage daughter Taxi/Dog Chariot. (Dog wasn't going in my car  :rolleyes:)
Although I like to "Look" at Black cars. I have had one and now consider myself cured of this affliction!!
I admire your dedication and perseverance to the cause as they are sooooo hard to keep clean. Can't wait to see you photos after you have given your R a proper seeing too !!  Hint Hint  :whistle:

Great write up Rebecca now get on with the detail !!!


For me though it had to be Lapiz Blue  :smiley:

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image.jpg3_zps5g6bgl5m.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image.jpg3_zps5g6bgl5m.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: remlapeel on 09 October 2015, 09:46
Excellent write up and agree with pretty much everything. The ACC is excellent in the right the right situations, works exceptionally well with the DSG changing gears for you also.

I do love the Black R but I was personally won over by Lapis because it's unique to the R.

On that note I keep seeing this red R-Line around and keeps freaking me out because the of the single DRLs and weird wheels. Takes me a second to realise it's a fake!

With the start stop system in town, do you know a lighter press on the brake stops the car without activating the system and depress fully will engage start stop?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: matchboy on 09 October 2015, 10:03
Great write up Rebecca!  Glad you're loving your R, especially after such a long wait!  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 October 2015, 11:13
So......You like it then !!  :wink:
I am so glad I swapped my Mk7 GTI for my R even though I questioned my sanity having only had the GTI 11 months  :whistle:
Have to agree about the turning circle. It can be so embarrassing trying to manoeuvre it around car parks.
But that is my only gripe that I couldn't do anything about. The other two minor grumbles have been sorted and you are about to rectify this on yours as well with the footwell lights and door sill protectors.
Dynaudio. Agreed, it is superb. I have had it on my last four cars and it was the first tick in the box with this one too.
I quite like the soundaktor it doesn't bother me one way or another unlike some people who have gone to the trouble of disconnecting it  :undecided:
I had DCC on my Scirocco's but didn't spec it on the first Mk7 and didn't miss it as the MQB chassis is so good. The ride in my R is slightly firmer maybe due to the Pretoria's but not bad enough to warrant £800 ish to leave it in one setting (which is what happened in the Scirocco's)
Mine has done 5K now and is returning 30-31mpg average which I am more than happy with.
I leave it in Race mode most of the time now as my better half has bought a Fiat 500 as a 2nd car/Teenage daughter Taxi/Dog Chariot. (Dog wasn't going in my car  :rolleyes:)
Although I like to "Look" at Black cars. I have had one and now consider myself cured of this affliction!!
I admire your dedication and perseverance to the cause as they are sooooo hard to keep clean. Can't wait to see you photos after you have given your R a proper seeing too !!  Hint Hint  :whistle:

Great write up Rebecca now get on with the detail !!!


For me though it had to be Lapiz Blue  :smiley:

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image.jpg3_zps5g6bgl5m.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image.jpg3_zps5g6bgl5m.jpg.html)


Thanks JB, I do like it, just a bit, ha-ha!  :wink:

My other half hasn’t yet driven it.  I think he’s scared.  Not of the car but of my reaction should anything untoward happen to it.  He had been responsible for kerbing 2 of my wheels on the old car – it’s not just the Achilles (w)heel of the woman!   That said, the Prets with Contis are quite well inset into the tyre wall so much, much more protection that the Glendales which were pretty much flush with the tyre and attached themselves to the kerb like a magnet.

Agree, the turning circle is a bit embarrassing when parking.  I normally swing effortlessly into a parking spot at work but trying the same in the R results in the car being half way diagonally across the space.  Last week I completely got it wrong at Sainsburys and looked like a complete idiot.  :embarrassed:
 
I’m desperate to get detailing but it’s going to be towards the end of the month as lots going on socially and with weekend work commitments too.  Don’t you just hate it when life gets in the way of car stuff, lol.  :rolleyes:

Btw – your pic has reminded me just how great Lapiz looks.  I see one nearly everyday, it’s lovely, but doesn’t look as good as yours.  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 October 2015, 11:22
Excellent write up and agree with pretty much everything. The ACC is excellent in the right the right situations, works exceptionally well with the DSG changing gears for you also.

I do love the Black R but I was personally won over by Lapis because it's unique to the R.

On that note I keep seeing this red R-Line around and keeps freaking me out because the of the single DRLs and weird wheels. Takes me a second to realise it's a fake!

With the start stop system in town, do you know a lighter press on the brake stops the car without activating the system and depress fully will engage start stop?

Cheers. :smiley:  It's a great car.

I'm looking forward to trying out the ACC, but not round town. :wink:  A long schlep up the A1 beckons in Feb so that will be a good test.

I do know about the way of stopping the Stop/Start from kicking in - discovered that on day one.  As you describe if you just lightly tickle the brake pedal it stops it from activating.  But sometimes I forget.   Canterbury is a very congested city and I spend a lot of time sat is very slow moving or static traffic so sometimes it’s just easier to just turn it off completely.

Lapiz was my second choice, though if carbon grey had been an option.  :whistle:

Damn those R-Line cars.  Imposters!!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 October 2015, 11:46
Great write up Rebecca!  Glad you're loving your R, especially after such a long wait!  :cool:

Cheers.  What wait?  :laugh:

First 500 miles up now and what an enjoyable 500 it's been.  :cool:   
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: matchboy on 09 October 2015, 11:49
Great write up Rebecca!  Glad you're loving your R, especially after such a long wait!  :cool:

Cheers.  What wait?  :laugh:

First 500 miles up now and what an enjoyable 500 it's been.  :cool:

Ha ha!

I've done 14k miles now, and I can honestly say I still love driving it - I'm sure  you will be the same, there's always fun to be had in an R  :evil:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gung-Ho on 09 October 2015, 12:41
Yeah... Another 'Nicely' written summary of the R, Rebecca.  I agree with everything you've said.  You've even taught me something.  The Soundaktor was really beginning to bug me and I was in two minds about unplugging it from the back, but now I've adjusted it to "Eco" mode (in the individual drivers mode) it's no longer too intrusive. Great little Tip!.

I would have loved to have been optioned the Conti Sport 5's but unfortunately I'm riding on the Brigestone S001's... But truth to be told after 500 miles I'm finding the Bridgestones fairly pleasant.  Previous experiences of Bridgestone (S01's, RE050's) were not great but these S001's are a revelation. Having said that I have  been driving fairly sedately upto now so time will tell.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 October 2015, 13:52
Yeah... Another 'Nicely' written summary of the R, Rebecca.  I agree with everything you've said.  You've even taught me something.  The Soundaktor was really beginning to bug me and I was in two minds about unplugging it from the back, but now I've adjusted it to "Eco" mode (in the individual drivers mode) it's no longer too intrusive. Great little Tip!.

I would have loved to have been optioned the Conti Sport 5's but unfortunately I'm riding on the Brigestone S001's... But truth to be told after 500 miles I'm finding the Bridgestones fairly pleasant.  Previous experiences of Bridgestone (S01's, RE050's) were not great but these S001's are a revelation. Having said that I have  been driving fairly sedately upto now so time will tell.

Well that's the first time the words 'Bridgestones' and 'pleasant' have ever been used together in the same sentence.  :grin:

Glad to pass on the Soundaktor tip.  It does make it liveable on a day to day basis, but (secretly) I also like a bit of the fakery it gives in Race. :evil:  Must be the bit of deeply hidden chav in me.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: fredgroves on 09 October 2015, 14:26
You haven't had the cold wet weather yet Gung Ho!

Horrid nasty Bridgestones!

I'm glad Mrs B got some decent footwear. Trust a girl to get the shoes she wants :-P
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 October 2015, 15:18
You haven't had the cold wet weather yet Gung Ho!

Horrid nasty Bridgestones!


Those are the  words more commonly associated with Tombstones.  :laugh:

Trust a girl to get the shoes she wants :-P

 :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 09 October 2015, 16:39
After such a long gestation including the "I might order soon but..." that seemed to drag on forever it's great (and not unexpected) that your relationship with the latest black beast in your life has hit the ground running!
A fabulous car (as mass produced family hatchbacks go) and a very deserving and appreciative owner, happy days Mademoiselle B!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 October 2015, 22:04
After such a long gestation including the "I might order soon but..." that seemed to drag on forever it's great (and not unexpected) that your relationship with the latest black beast in your life has hit the ground running!
A fabulous car (as mass produced family hatchbacks go) and a very deserving and appreciative owner, happy days Mademoiselle B!  :smiley:

Now Mr Ex, the "I might order...." phase only really lasted a mere 3 months, and it was more a "when will I order....", so no embellishing the truth  :tongue: :laugh:   

And well what are forums for but talking about cars we have, might buy, wish we'd never bought and/or will never buy again! 

It might have been less predictable and more entertaining after all this time for me to say I really don't like the R.  But it would be untrue.  So I unashamedly and unapologetically sing it's praises to the rooftops because that's what I think (with some minor exceptions).  :kiss:

I do very much appreciate being able to have a great hot hatch. I'm really no more more deserving than any other owner, but it's very nice of you to say so.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gorocco on 10 October 2015, 00:38
Seriously thinking about getting an R in March. If they average 30 MPG that's good news. In my GTI I'm getting about 33 MPG in normal everyday traffic
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 October 2015, 08:34
Seriously thinking about getting an R in March. If they average 30 MPG that's good news. In my GTI I'm getting about 33 MPG in normal everyday traffic

Well it's only been a week but my average mpg is showing 25, which is better than I thought at this stage.  Did include a short/medium distance motorway journey, but also lots of congested city driving.  Should hopefully creep up, I'm expecting 27/28 in time but many seem to edge over 30 mpg.

As for the car - knowing what I know now, I would get one.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 10 October 2015, 08:38
Seriously thinking about getting an R in March. If they average 30 MPG that's good news. In my GTI I'm getting about 33 MPG in normal everyday traffic

You won't regret it !!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Brenbo on 10 October 2015, 08:53
I am also contemplating seriously about getting an R.  I currently have a GTI Performance, which is great.  But after hearing about it on this forum and seeing it in the flesh on more than one occasion, I am tempted to also start seriously look at ordering an R next spring around March .  I just want to see if any news about the GTI Clubsport or R400 comes out first, then I will make the decision about which car I will look in to getting. But at present I am swaying heavily toward the R.  Saw one in the showroom last week and and it does look the business in the real.  Photos do not do it justice.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JoeGTI on 10 October 2015, 09:19
Averaging 30+ mpg is a pipe dream, for me at least! I've had my R about 7 weeks and I'm averaging 26mpg. I'd have been getting 33-34 with similar driving in my GTI. I think it will settle down a bit though after a while, hopefully creep closer to 28-29.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: remlapeel on 10 October 2015, 09:53
Rebecca, I'll be traveling down to Canterbury on Sunday so keep your eyes out for a lapis blue on prets :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JamesR27 on 10 October 2015, 10:26
JB how are you finding the Lapiz blue compared to carbon grey for showing up dirt, dust and marks?

It's a colour I would be very tempted to get if I get an R, but waiting to see more on the clubsport.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 October 2015, 11:47
Averaging 30+ mpg is a pipe dream, for me at least! I've had my R about 7 weeks and I'm averaging 26mpg. I'd have been getting 33-34 with similar driving in my GTI. I think it will settle down a bit though after a while, hopefully creep closer to 28-29.

And me.  I know my limitations and I know my heavy right foot. :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 October 2015, 11:50
Rebecca, I'll be traveling down to Canterbury on Sunday so keep your eyes out for a lapis blue on prets :)

I certainly will Remlapeel.  It would be nice to give a wave to a forum member.  See 3 or 4 R's around now, but seemingly owners not on any of the forums.

And keep your eye out for someone manically decontaminating a black R on a driveway on Sunday. :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: remlapeel on 10 October 2015, 12:10
On the topic of MPG, I was a little concerned for the first 1000miles or so because I was averaging 26ish. Now it's 28-32 and I have a very heavy foot, drive in race constantly and use the paddles all the time
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 October 2015, 12:20
Anyone thinking of taking the jump from GTi to R.. "DO IT!" You won't have any regrets..

If you shop around there's still some fantastic offers to be had. The repayments on my new R actually work out £100 cheaper than my old GTi so it was a no brainer for me swapping.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 10 October 2015, 14:27
JB how are you finding the Lapiz blue compared to carbon grey for showing up dirt, dust and marks?

It's a colour I would be very tempted to get if I get an R, but waiting to see more on the clubsport.

Lapiz Blue hides the dust and dirt better day to day than the Carbon Grey did. To be fair though I changed my washing habits with Lapiz as I had a feeling it would be even less forgiving than Carbon Grey and I think it would have been if I had carried on using the cotton "Shaggy Dog" wash pad I was using on the GTI in so much that it would leave more noticeable swirls on the Blue paintwork which with the best will in the world you will always get using a car day to day. I only wash by hand as I haven't got the bottle to attack it with a DA machine polisher.
Now using the two bucket method and a Wo Wo Lambswool wash mitt (highly recommended) and Microfibre drying towel and taking my time got to say, so far so good With minimal marks
Lapiz Blue is a stunning colour and it was a no brainer for me when I ordered mine. It's a shame Carbon Grey was not available on the R as I think it would really suit it too  :smiley:

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image.jpg1_zpspsyufvgi.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image.jpg1_zpspsyufvgi.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: chris1h on 10 October 2015, 16:29
get some pics up booth!!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gorocco on 10 October 2015, 17:01
Anyone thinking of taking the jump from GTi to R.. "DO IT!" You won't have any regrets..

If you shop around there's still some fantastic offers to be had. The repayments on my new R actually work out £100 cheaper than my old GTi so it was a no brainer for me swapping.

It'll probably cost me £40/50 a month more on fuel so I'd be looking for cheaper repayments but hopefully VW will be desperate to upgrade me. Suspect a new model Scirocco is a few years off so for me it's either the R or maybe an incentive for another GTi. Plenty of positive talk from you 'upgraders' so thanks for that.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 10 October 2015, 17:26
get some pics up booth!!

Lots of pics in other threads on here Chris, and I'm sure there will be plenty of 'post initial clean' photos after the weekend.
Get yer shades out ready 'cos it'll be SHINY!  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JamesR27 on 10 October 2015, 20:02
JB how are you finding the Lapiz blue compared to carbon grey for showing up dirt, dust and marks?

It's a colour I would be very tempted to get if I get an R, but waiting to see more on the clubsport.

Lapiz Blue hides the dust and dirt better day to day than the Carbon Grey did. To be fair though I changed my washing habits with Lapiz as I had a feeling it would be even less forgiving than Carbon Grey and I think it would have been if I had carried on using the cotton "Shaggy Dog" wash pad I was using on the GTI in so much that it would leave more noticeable swirls on the Blue paintwork which with the best will in the world you will always get using a car day to day. I only wash by hand as I haven't got the bottle to attack it with a DA machine polisher.
Now using the two bucket method and a Wo Wo Lambswool wash mitt (highly recommended) and Microfibre drying towel and taking my time got to say, so far so good With minimal marks
Lapiz Blue is a stunning colour and it was a no brainer for me when I ordered mine. It's a shame Carbon Grey was not available on the R as I think it would really suit it too  :smiley:

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image.jpg1_zpspsyufvgi.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image.jpg1_zpspsyufvgi.jpg.html)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image_zps6d7c798f.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image_zps6d7c798f.jpg.html)

Thanks JB, great pics and really like the Pretoria alloys as they really suit the R.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 October 2015, 21:52
get some pics up booth!!

Hey Chris, you're late to the party, lol.

Here's some pics of it in it's undetailed but washed state.  It will get better once I find the time to give it a full going over.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.msg2520598#msg2520598

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.msg2520986#msg2520986

Now, how about an R?  You know you want one. :evil: :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 October 2015, 21:56
get some pics up booth!!

Lots of pics in other threads on here Chris, and I'm sure there will be plenty of 'post initial clean' photos after the weekend.
Get yer shades out ready 'cos it'll be SHINY!  :grin:

You'll be relieved to know there won't be any pics this weekend. Detailing is having to be done in stages as I have family commitments throughout this weekend.  Hoping to at least get the glue and iron deposits off tommorow, and just a quickie wash.  No photos till it's been sealed and waxed, possibly next weekend, weather permitting.  So you've got at least a weeks photo free grace.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: chris1h on 10 October 2015, 22:53
get some pics up booth!!

Hey Chris, you're late to the party, lol.

Here's some pics of it in it's undetailed but washed state.  It will get better once I find the time to give it a full going over.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.msg2520598#msg2520598

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.msg2520986#msg2520986

Now, how about an R?  You know you want one. :evil: :laugh:

Ah!  :laugh:  Haven't been in the forum for while! You are brave going for the black again! I just spent the day cleaning mine and i hate that black  :angry:.

Think my mind is set on a "R". Took one out at the dealers other week and  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: . Just need so save those pennies! However would be looking for a 3door white/ that blue (forgot technical paint name)  :grin: .

But that is one cracking looking car bec!!. Will read up all the comments and stuff! happy driving! enjoy it!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 October 2015, 23:26
get some pics up booth!!

Hey Chris, you're late to the party, lol.

Here's some pics of it in it's undetailed but washed state.  It will get better once I find the time to give it a full going over.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.msg2520598#msg2520598

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259354.msg2520986#msg2520986

Now, how about an R?  You know you want one. :evil: :laugh:

Ah!  :laugh:  Haven't been in the forum for while! You are brave going for the black again! I just spent the day cleaning mine and i hate that black  :angry:.

Think my mind is set on a "R". Took one out at the dealers other week and  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: . Just need so save those pennies! However would be looking for a 3door white/ that blue (forgot technical paint name)  :grin: .

But that is one cracking looking car bec!!. Will read up all the comments and stuff! happy driving! enjoy it!

"that blue".  Love it.  :grin:

Cheers Chris. Get saving because you'll love the R!  Completely different animal to the Mk6. :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 October 2015, 23:51
Seriously thinking about getting an R in March. If they average 30 MPG that's good news. In my GTI I'm getting about 33 MPG in normal everyday traffic

Well it's only been a week but my average mpg is showing 25, which is better than I thought at this stage.  Did include a short/medium distance motorway journey, but also lots of congested city driving.  Should hopefully creep up, I'm expecting 27/28 in time but many seem to edge over 30 mpg.

As for the car - knowing what I know now, I would get one.

Varies a lot on fuel too. I filled up at Sainsbury's (RON97) and my mpg is down to about 28mpg average with what i'm doing with the car right now, It's be 31 with V-power and maybe 32/33 with Tesco Momentum.

The new commute is about the same length as the old one, but no Tyne tunnel passes - it might get a bit hairy in the winter though, heading 20 miles inland well into Northumberland. The temp is about 6C cooler there than at the coast and there's plenty of big roadkill by the side of the road (I counted 3 Badgers - they'd do some damage to any car they hit) The evening traffic is a bugger, I have to take a 2 mile detour to go further around Newcastle centre going home, it's not a bother going to work.

The R seems to handle crawling traffic better than the wife's A1 1.6TDI - saw the A1 mpg drop from an impressive 59mpg to 44mpg when I hit some very slow traffic going home the other day, same issue saw the R's drop from 33mpg to 29.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: chris1h on 11 October 2015, 10:09
Seriously thinking about getting an R in March. If they average 30 MPG that's good news. In my GTI I'm getting about 33 MPG in normal everyday traffic

Well it's only been a week but my average mpg is showing 25, which is better than I thought at this stage.  Did include a short/medium distance motorway journey, but also lots of congested city driving.  Should hopefully creep up, I'm expecting 27/28 in time but many seem to edge over 30 mpg.

As for the car - knowing what I know now, I would get one.

Varies a lot on fuel too. I filled up at Sainsbury's (RON97) and my mpg is down to about 28mpg average with what i'm doing with the car right now, It's be 31 with V-power and maybe 32/33 with Tesco Momentum.

The new commute is about the same length as the old one, but no Tyne tunnel passes - it might get a bit hairy in the winter though, heading 20 miles inland well into Northumberland. The temp is about 6C cooler there than at the coast and there's plenty of big roadkill by the side of the road (I counted 3 Badgers - they'd do some damage to any car they hit) The evening traffic is a bugger, I have to take a 2 mile detour to go further around Newcastle centre going home, it's not a bother going to work.

The R seems to handle crawling traffic better than the wife's A1 1.6TDI - saw the A1 mpg drop from an impressive 59mpg to 44mpg when I hit some very slow traffic going home the other day, same issue saw the R's drop from 33mpg to 29.

What you got mate? mk7 r?  I also work in newcastle and do a "detour" just getting there and home  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 October 2015, 16:26

What you got mate? mk7 r?  I also work in newcastle and do a "detour" just getting there and home  :grin:

MK7 R on a 15 plate, Lapiz Blue, 5 doors with Prets. My commute to work takes me along the coast road and up/down a bit of the A1 through the Blaydon Bypass as I work in Prudhoe now. The commute home avoids the Toon and goes back via Killingorth/A19.

Chances are you might see me around in it.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 11 October 2015, 23:14
You do get to know the car well if you detail it yourself, and one thing that has pleasantly surprised me with the R is the lack of water traps compared to my previous GTI.  Most notably inside the fuel flap and inside door sills and front grill hold onto much less water. Wing mirrors still a nightmare though. And it's a breeze cleaning and drying the grill as opposed to the old honeycomb style.

Full detail to be finished next weekend, but couldn’t resist getting a few pics of the R with it’s big brother on the driveway. Excuse rusty brake discs. Couldn’t take it for a spin to clean them off as the beast was in the way.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/774/22108778601_c964993202_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zFFgBX)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5741/22072690106_d36a3cc1d5_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCuiLw)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5683/21910850078_10568dd613_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zobQnd)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 12 October 2015, 15:37
Love the pics Ms. B  :cool:

That's an awful lot of metalwork between the two vehicles to wash!
I'd hate to think how long a full detail on the Beast would take?!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: am1w on 12 October 2015, 16:53
Fab pictures Rebecca. Love the beast. Best way to protect the R.

There might be other DBP Rs and Rs in other colours, but yours is the best. A perfectly specced car.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Rhyso on 12 October 2015, 17:00
That lawn is a waste of good space  :whistle:

Surely there's enough room for a double garage to allow you to wash / detail without Mother Nature spoiling your fun
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: ffrank on 12 October 2015, 18:29
Very nice write up and pics Booth - actually made me seriously fancy an R for the first time. But I'm going to be good and resist - I want to have mine for at least 2 years, and perhaps I'll be happy to take it to 3 or 4... It depends how many pics you post I guess!  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 October 2015, 19:42
Love the pics Ms. B  :cool:

That's an awful lot of metalwork between the two vehicles to wash!
I'd hate to think how long a full detail on the Beast would take?!!  :shocked:

Cheers Mr Ex.  Bonnie and Clyde make a lovely couple  :laugh:

As for your question.  I guess we'll never know how long it would take to detail the Beast.  :whistle:

Incommented to the other half that it was looking a bit filthy last week, so on Sunday he treated it to and Eastern European Special down in the supermarket car park.  They did a pretty good job of it. Apparently the car wash guy looked a bit dumbstruck when he asked for it to be cleaned, looked it up and down and doubled his price. 

I would've done it for free. :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 October 2015, 19:49
Fab pictures Rebecca. Love the beast. Best way to protect the R.

There might be other DBP Rs and Rs in other colours, but yours is the best. A perfectly specced car.

Why thank you Asker. It's got everything I need, and a few fripperies I don't.

The Beast is my R’s personal bodyguard.  Beauty and the Beast. :laugh:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 October 2015, 19:51
That lawn is a waste of good space  :whistle:

Surely there's enough room for a double garage to allow you to wash / detail without Mother Nature spoiling your fun

Believe me, it’s been mooted more than once, but thus far, has fallen on (selectively) deaf ears!

We could easily fit a garage on the front lawn, but it would probably block out a lot of light from the house, and it’s not the lightest of houses anyway.

Course I could always just demand the actual existing ex garage back!!! I will continue to subliminally nibble away at his conscience.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 October 2015, 20:08
Very nice write up and pics Booth - actually made me seriously fancy an R for the first time. But I'm going to be good and resist - I want to have mine for at least 2 years, and perhaps I'll be happy to take it to 3 or 4... It depends how many pics you post I guess!  :cool:

Thanks frank.  :smiley:

It's a very good car.  I did consider going for a Mk7 GTI but decided to wait for the R.  It was worth it.  It's a big change coming from a Mk6 GTI, due to the MQB platform, much more so than I thought it would be.  I'll be keeping this for 3-4 years. There'll be a few pics over those years, no doubt.  :laugh:

You are good to resist. The GTD is a great car. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 October 2015, 20:19
Got the chance to test the car out today on some very wet and greasy roads. Put it into ‘animal’ mode (race) and took a drive along very undulating and bendy country roads.  What a sure footed drive!  Velcro’d to the Tarmac. Corners chewed up and spat out with relish, and not a whisper of traction loss. The grip on the Contis in such wet conditions is superb. What a tyre, even on 19s!  Alternated between S and manual - manual offering more engagement, but both good in their own right in these conditions.

700 miles done now and can feel the car just starting to loosen and give up some of it's secrets.  Even the throttle pedal response seems improved, more receptive to foot command, or perhaps  I’ m just more accustomed to it and have adapted accordingly.  Either way, feels better and the R is opening up very nicely.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 October 2015, 20:44
The grip on the Contis in such wet conditions is superb. What a tyre, even on 19s! 

Now you're rubbing it in!  :drool:

Been in the missus' A1 for most of the last week to get her some practice for her test - she drives to her work on a morning then I take over and carry on driving the next 12 miles.

I'm convinced the TDIs (and probably everything else VAG) has a run-in mode. Once the little A1 ticked over to about 630 miles (a smidge over 1000km) it seemed to take a shot in the arm (and get a little thirstier). Sure I had a similar experience in the GTD.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 October 2015, 21:29
The grip on the Contis in such wet conditions is superb. What a tyre, even on 19s! 

Now you're rubbing it in!  :drool:

Been in the missus' A1 for most of the last week to get her some practice for her test - she drives to her work on a morning then I take over and carry on driving the next 12 miles.

I'm convinced the TDIs (and probably everything else VAG) has a run-in mode. Once the little A1 ticked over to about 630 miles (a smidge over 1000km) it seemed to take a shot in the arm (and get a little thirstier). Sure I had a similar experience in the GTD.

You mean I'm rubbering it in!  :laugh:

Yeah, I reckon 636 miles (to be precise, lol) is the 'sweet spot', then there's a discernible surge in performance. 

Very thirsty.  Car had a full tank at collection and today was the 3rd fill up I've done, so got through 3 tank fills in 15 days!  Showing an average 25mpg though. Mind you I remember my Mk6 being a bit of a petroleum alchy in the early days, then settled right down.

How's Mrs MH getting along with her driving practice?  Ready for the test?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Cossieian on 14 October 2015, 21:46
The grip on the Contis in such wet conditions is superb. What a tyre, even on 19s! 

Now you're rubbing it in!  :drool:

Been in the missus' A1 for most of the last week to get her some practice for her test - she drives to her work on a morning then I take over and carry on driving the next 12 miles.

I'm convinced the TDIs (and probably everything else VAG) has a run-in mode. Once the little A1 ticked over to about 630 miles (a smidge over 1000km) it seemed to take a shot in the arm (and get a little thirstier). Sure I had a similar experience in the GTD.

You mean I'm rubbering it in!  :laugh:

Yeah, I reckon 636 miles (to be precise, lol) is the 'sweet spot', then there's a discernible surge in performance. 

Very thirsty.  Car had a full tank at collection and today was the 3rd fill up I've done, so got through 3 tank fills in 15 days!  Showing an average 25mpg though. Mind you I remember my Mk6 being a bit of a petroleum alchy in the early days, then settled right down.

How's Mrs MH getting along with her driving practice?  Ready for the test?

Holy smokes 3 tanks in 700 miles :laugh:
I did expect it to be not great but not quite that bad :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 October 2015, 22:05
You mean I'm rubbering it in!  :laugh:

Yeah, I reckon 636 miles (to be precise, lol) is the 'sweet spot', then there's a discernible surge in performance. 

Very thirsty.  Car had a full tank at collection and today was the 3rd fill up I've done, so got through 3 tank fills in 15 days!  Showing an average 25mpg though. Mind you I remember my Mk6 being a bit of a petroleum alchy in the early days, then settled right down.

How's Mrs MH getting along with her driving practice?  Ready for the test?

Holy smokes 3 tanks in 700 miles :laugh:
I did expect it to be not great but not quite that bad :embarrassed:

I'm not noted for my lightness of right foot.

It's been an expensive fortnight, not including the actual cost of the car. :shocked:  But do I care?.....


......no!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 October 2015, 13:34
I get about 320 miles per tank when taking it down to about 20 miles remaining if using momentum and about 300 miles with anything else. A quick solo shopping trip in the R last night saw some very low mpg as I was keen to feel the power of the R again after being in the A1.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 15 October 2015, 14:22
I get about 320 miles per tank when taking it down to about 20 miles remaining if using momentum and about 300 miles with anything else. A quick solo shopping trip in the R last night saw some very low mpg as I was keen to feel the power of the R again after being in the A1.

That's the trouble, I'm a bit too keen to feel the power of the R anytime, even on the school run!

The long term average mpg, is better than I got with my Mk6 at the same stage. If I can get 280mpg in time, from a tank, I'll be happy, anything over will be a bonus.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 October 2015, 18:57
I get about 320 miles per tank when taking it down to about 20 miles remaining if using momentum and about 300 miles with anything else. A quick solo shopping trip in the R last night saw some very low mpg as I was keen to feel the power of the R again after being in the A1.

That's the trouble, I'm a bit too keen to feel the power of the R anytime, even on the school run!

The long term average mpg, is better than I got with my Mk6 at the same stage. If I can get 280mpg in time, from a tank, I'll be happy, anything over will be a bonus.

280mpg? In a VW XL prototype maybe.  :tongue:

I get the opportunity to really hammer the R for all of about 5 seconds at a time maybe 3 times on my commute, and right now i'm doing most of my commute in the wife's A1.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 15 October 2015, 21:15
I get about 320 miles per tank when taking it down to about 20 miles remaining if using momentum and about 300 miles with anything else. A quick solo shopping trip in the R last night saw some very low mpg as I was keen to feel the power of the R again after being in the A1.

That's the trouble, I'm a bit too keen to feel the power of the R anytime, even on the school run!

The long term average mpg, is better than I got with my Mk6 at the same stage. If I can get 280mpg in time, from a tank, I'll be happy, anything over will be a bonus.

280mpg? In a VW XL prototype maybe.  :tongue:

I get the opportunity to really hammer the R for all of about 5 seconds at a time maybe 3 times on my commute, and right now i'm doing most of my commute in the wife's A1.

Wishful thinking  :whistle:  280 miles a tank I meant but you know that.  :grin:

You need to get out on more solo, non commute drives.   :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Cossieian on 15 October 2015, 21:37
I'll be happy enough with between 300-350 miles per tank, I've been known to have a very Light right foot :drool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 15 October 2015, 22:40
I'll be happy enough with between 300-350 miles per tank, I've been known to have a very Light right foot :drool:

350 mpt - the stuff of dreams for me!!  I did get 320 from the GTI, but can't see that happening in the R! Blow the cost of the petrol, I'm enjoying the car too much too care!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 16 October 2015, 08:11
My fuel light in the Passat came on yesterday having done 780 milles. I really don't think I could cope with all that petrol guzzling.  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 10:30
My fuel light in the Passat came on yesterday having done 780 milles. I really don't think I could cope with all that petrol guzzling.  :grin:

Does an alarm go off triggering a small firework display and popping of streamers when your fuel light comes on?  :wink:

Every week's a fuel party in my car.  I consider the petrol station to be my second home.  :grin:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 16 October 2015, 11:27
Does an alarm go off triggering a small firework display and popping of streamers when your fuel light comes on?  :wink:

That only happens when I pass the 1000 miles between refill mark. (Which has only happened once.) Amongst all the rumours that are flying about, I'm concerned that this feature may be disabled if the dealers ever get it back in to perform the emissions scandal software changes.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 11:33
Does an alarm go off triggering a small firework display and popping of streamers when your fuel light comes on?  :wink:

That only happens when I pass the 1000 miles between refill mark. (Which has only happened once.) Amongst all the rumours that are flying about, I'm concerned that this feature may be disabled if the dealers ever get it back in to perform the emissions scandal software changes.

 :grin:

That is a worry.  You'll just have take matters into your own hands and rig up a little homemade system, or make sure your kids are in the car at all times, ready to make merriment when 1,000 mpt comes up.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 14:09
I mentioned in my initial review of my R, that I found the interior a bit lacking in colour.  Well today I have rectified that a little.

Swapped the white footwell standard LED lights for some blue ones. Because the standard ones are sealed units and you can't just swap the bulbs over like you could on the Mk6, I ordered 2 LED Glovebox light units (TPS – part no. 7L0 947 415 @ £11 each).  Thanks muchly to JBGTI on here for the info.  :smiley:

I opened them up, removed the tungsten bulbs and replaced with blue LEDs from ebay. As with this type of LED you need to check you have the polarity correct before closing up the light unit again, so try it connected up and if the bulb doesn’t work one way, turn it round and try the other way.

The driver’s side was very easy, 2 minute job. The electrical wire on the drivers side is quite long so easy to access. The passenger side, however was more tricky.  The wire is extremely short and the connector sits just inside the hole, but there is no scope at all to pull it further out. It’s fine getting the original light unit out but getting the replacement unit back into the connector is very fiddly and needs two hands. Helps if you have slim fingers, but if you have chunky digits, you may struggle. You could always remove additional trim (I didn't). And because it’s so tricky, I strongly recommend testing the passenger LED out on the driver’s side first BEFORE putting it in the passenger side.

A few installation pics:

Remove standard white light LED unit
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5757/22030225148_5200ec8294_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zyJEq5)

Fit Replacement light unit and blue LED
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5690/22191430846_46eb8729f9_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zNYTfE)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5795/22217528785_d369161082_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zRhDg8)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/578/22227894881_830caa6811_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zScLJV)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/600/22227891261_4c2058cbb3_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zScKEv)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5733/22227889991_eac04e5fd0_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zScKhB)[
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/688/22204753942_d63507cec4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zQaaKd)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5632/22029761098_c4a8b10e4e_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zyGhtd)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/577/21596497913_3340a69396_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yUpGqi)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5726/21595897784_3a7fb2a1f1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yUmC2f)

The result (with footwells set to 80%)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/616/21594773494_7eaa5ba86d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yUfRNW)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5652/22191428986_9e8cc64c21_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zNYSGA)

These are daytime pics but should look really good at night.  Will post a night shot later.

I know loads have done this mini mod (did it on my 6GTI), but IMO, I think it really adds to the ambience and injects adds a bit of much needed colour.  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 16 October 2015, 15:07
An excellent walk through of the mod Ms B, in fact it's so good you ought to extract that post and put it as a thread in the hints and tips section before it gets buried in this thread.
 :cool:




PS. I can't believe you let a naked screwdriver anywhere near your virgin leather  :shocked:
One sneeze and your leather would have looked like Mr Cow had sat on a huge bit of barbed wire before Mr Volkswagen murdered him and stole his skin...
Don't tell me, you have a special cream for fixing that in your detailing selection  :whistle:

 :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 15:34
An excellent walk through of the mod Ms B, in fact it's so good you ought to extract that post and put it as a thread in the hints and tips section before it gets buried in this thread.
 :cool:

Will do if it will be helpful for others. I'll sort it tonight.  :smiley:

PS. I can't believe you let a naked screwdriver anywhere near your virgin leather  :shocked:
One sneeze and your leather would have looked like Mr Cow had sat on a huge bit of barbed wire before Mr Volkswagen murdered him and stole his skin...


That crossed my mind more than once.  I was very careful, although I got very wet as I did this in the rain kneeling on the very uncomfortable driveway (ok I had a kneeling pad). The lengths I go to for a bloody car.  :laugh:

Don't tell me, you have a special cream for fixing that in your detailing selection  :whistle:

I have a special cream for everything!  :kiss:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 16 October 2015, 16:26
If you like it now, just wait until tonight !!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: vidman2 on 16 October 2015, 16:28
I mentioned in my initial review of my R, that I found the interior a bit lacking in colour.  Well today I have rectified that a little.

Swapped the white footwell standard LED lights for some blue ones. Because the standard ones are sealed units and you can't just swap the bulbs over like you could on the Mk6, I ordered 2 LED Glovebox light units (TPS – part no. 7L0 947 415 @ £11 each).  Thanks muchly to JBGTI on here for the info.  :smiley:

I opened them up, removed the tungsten bulbs and replaced with blue LEDs from ebay. As with this type of LED you need to check you have the polarity correct before closing up the light unit again, so try it connected up and if the bulb doesn’t work one way, turn it round and try the other way.

The driver’s side was very easy, 2 minute job. The electrical wire on the drivers side is quite long so easy to access. The passenger side, however was more tricky.  The wire is extremely short and the connector sits just inside the hole, but there is no scope at all to pull it further out. It’s fine getting the original light unit out but getting the replacement unit back into the connector is very fiddly and needs two hands. Helps if you have slim fingers, but if you have chunky digits, you may struggle. You could always remove additional trim (I didn't). And because it’s so tricky, I strongly recommend testing the passenger LED out on the driver’s side first BEFORE putting it in the passenger side.

A few installation pics:

Remove standard white light LED unit
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/577/21596497913_3340a69396_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yUpGqi)

Fit Replacement light unit and blue LED
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5690/22191430846_46eb8729f9_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zNYTfE)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5795/22217528785_d369161082_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zRhDg8)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/578/22227894881_830caa6811_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zScLJV)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/600/22227891261_4c2058cbb3_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zScKEv)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5733/22227889991_eac04e5fd0_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zScKhB)[
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/688/22204753942_d63507cec4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zQaaKd)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5632/22029761098_c4a8b10e4e_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zyGhtd)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/577/21596497913_3340a69396_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yUpGqi)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5726/21595897784_3a7fb2a1f1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yUmC2f)

The result (with footwells set to 80%)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/616/21594773494_7eaa5ba86d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yUfRNW)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5652/22191428986_9e8cc64c21_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zNYSGA)

These are daytime pics but should look really good at night.  Will post a night shot later.

I know loads have done this mini mod (did it on my 6GTI), but IMO, I think it really adds to the ambience and injects adds a bit of much needed colour.  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 17:42
If you like it now, just wait until tonight !!  :laugh:

I'm willing it to get dark!  :laugh:  it's working.  Brace yourself for a night pic.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 18:58
Blue LED footwells at night  Look great with the blue door strips.

Driver’s side
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/601/22036959228_db2fccb71a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zzkbdU)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/631/22036433540_2f0c0751b1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zzhtXj)

Passenger side
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/673/22036432280_4976c156bd_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zzhtzA)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 16 October 2015, 19:12
Arrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh. Why can't people edit their quotes when there are loads of pictures in them that we have already seem further up the page???  :angry: :angry: :angry: And breathe  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 16 October 2015, 19:38
Blue LED footwells at night  Look great with the blue door strips.

Driver’s side
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/601/22036959228_db2fccb71a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zzkbdU)

Looking good  :cool:
You need one of these now  :whistle:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image_zpsxxficoil.jpeg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image_zpsxxficoil.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 19:55
 :evil:
Arrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh. Why can't people edit their quotes when there are loads of pictures in them that we have already seem further up the page???  :angry: :angry: :angry: And breathe  :smiley:

They do it because they know it drives you wild.  :evil:

I'm tempted to just repost the quote myself just to annoy you, but because I'm nice and I like you, I won't.  :kiss: :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 20:00

Looking good  :cool:
You need one of these now  :whistle:
(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image_zpsxxficoil.jpeg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image_zpsxxficoil.jpeg.html)

I love 'em.  Thanks for your help with part numbers etc, appreciate it.  :smiley:

You're a bad, bad influence!  But it is already on the 'list' though I can't remember where I've saved the link (I need to sort my iPad car 'filing system' out.  So you know what my next question is JB don't you?  :whistle:  :laugh:


Sorry Simon (dubber36), just had to repost a pic.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: p3asa on 16 October 2015, 21:33
Arrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh. Why can't people edit their quotes when there are loads of pictures in them that we have already seem further up the page???  :angry: :angry: :angry: And breathe  :smiley:


Is there even any comments added as I can't see any just the whole post re-posted?

@ Bec looks fantastic. Also looks like you've just cost me a few more shekels  :laugh:
Not that I'm penny pinching as they are reasonably priced but I wonder how much the Skoda / Seat / Audi equivalent costs as sometimes they can be had cheaper!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 16 October 2015, 21:59

I love 'em.  Thanks for your help with part numbers etc, appreciate it.  :smiley:

You're a bad, bad influence!  But it is already on the 'list' though I can't remember where I've saved the link (I need to sort my iPad car 'filing system' out.  So you know what my next question is JB don't you?  :whistle:  :laugh

 :whistle: here you go then !!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-RHD-VW-Golf-7-MK7-Seat-mk3-footrest-pedals-Car-pedal-Cover/32218031571.html
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 22:19
Arrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh. Why can't people edit their quotes when there are loads of pictures in them that we have already seem further up the page???  :angry: :angry: :angry: And breathe  :smiley:


Is there even any comments added as I can't see any just the whole post re-posted?

@ Bec looks fantastic. Also looks like you've just cost me a few more shekels  :laugh:
Not that I'm penny pinching as they are reasonably priced but I wonder how much the Skoda / Seat / Audi equivalent costs as sometimes they can be had cheaper!

Yeah, just seems to be the pics re-posted.  :huh:

Thanks Steven, it's simple but effective little tweak. You may well be right, Skoda etc could be a few pounds cheaper. I never thought of that.  What colour LED are you going to go for in your GTD?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 22:24

I love 'em.  Thanks for your help with part numbers etc, appreciate it.  :smiley:

You're a bad, bad influence!  But it is already on the 'list' though I can't remember where I've saved the link (I need to sort my iPad car 'filing system' out.  So you know what my next question is JB don't you?  :whistle:  :laugh

 :whistle: here you go then !!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-RHD-VW-Golf-7-MK7-Seat-mk3-footrest-pedals-Car-pedal-Cover/32218031571.html

JB you are a top man. :smiley:  Thanks very much. Did you screw the footplate in?  Does trim need removing?

I've just ordered some Bosch Aerotwin wiper blades too as after 3 days of rain, the OEM wipers have displayed a tendency to miss bits of the windscreen. Not terrible but Bosch are more reliable.

Still looking for some Paddles/extensions to catch my eye.  :whistle:  You come across any others that take your fancy yet? (Aside from the Audi RS ones that won't fit).  :cry:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 16 October 2015, 22:47

I love 'em.  Thanks for your help with part numbers etc, appreciate it.  :smiley:

You're a bad, bad influence!  But it is already on the 'list' though I can't remember where I've saved the link (I need to sort my iPad car 'filing system' out.  So you know what my next question is JB don't you?  :whistle:  :laugh

 :whistle: here you go then !!

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-RHD-VW-Golf-7-MK7-Seat-mk3-footrest-pedals-Car-pedal-Cover/32218031571.html

JB you are a top man. :smiley:  Thanks very much. Did you screw the footplate in?  Does trim need removing?

I've just ordered some Bosch Aerotwin wiper blades too as after 3 days of rain, the OEM wipers have displayed a tendency to miss bits of the windscreen. Not terrible but Bosch are more reliable.

Still looking for some Paddles/extensions to catch my eye.  :whistle:  You come across any others that take your fancy yet? (Aside from the Audi RS ones that won't fit).  :cry:

One torx screw to undo push the old footrest towards the bulkhead at it will come off. You will then see that there are a couple of locating lugs underneath that keep it secure. Be careful with the new one as the lugs are a little tight and might needs a little bit shaving off them otherwise they could snap off when you try to pull it back into place. Otherwise the quality is superb.
As for the paddles. No, lost interest when it became apparent the Audi ones wouldn't fit. I haven't seen any others that I like and I don't think the stick on ones would be up to the job long term  :undecided:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: p3asa on 16 October 2015, 23:00
Yeah, just seems to be the pics re-posted.  :huh:

Thanks Steven, it's simple but effective little tweak. You may well be right, Skoda etc could be a few pounds cheaper. I never thought of that.  What colour LED are you going to go for in your GTD?

Not sure re colour. Probably just get red and blue as see what I prefer. Although I do really like blue LEDs and have a few around the house. Great for highlighting areas.

Or I could just order these and have all 3 in 1  :grin:

 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/VW-LED-Footwell-Light-For-VW-GOLF-6-7-GTI-R20-JETTA-MK5-MK6-TIGUAN-Scirocco/32274581206.html?spm=2114.031010208.3.123.IayvJ7&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201527_4_71_72_73_74_75,searchweb201560_3

Not
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 October 2015, 23:42
Yeah, just seems to be the pics re-posted.  :huh:

Thanks Steven, it's simple but effective little tweak. You may well be right, Skoda etc could be a few pounds cheaper. I never thought of that.  What colour LED are you going to go for in your GTD?

Not sure re colour. Probably just get red and blue as see what I prefer. Although I do really like blue LEDs and have a few around the house. Great for highlighting areas.

Or I could just order these and have all 3 in 1  :grin:

 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/VW-LED-Footwell-Light-For-VW-GOLF-6-7-GTI-R20-JETTA-MK5-MK6-TIGUAN-Scirocco/32274581206.html?spm=2114.031010208.3.123.IayvJ7&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201527_4_71_72_73_74_75,searchweb201560_3

Not

 :grin:  Mmm, lovely if you're driving a mobile disco. :laugh:

Having had red and now blue, I prefer the blue. Obviously red was right for the GTI, but I think the blue looks better, and even though it's a cool colour, it still adds more warmth than the white which is too sterile.

Cheap and cheerful mod!  Look forward to seeing yours when it's done.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 17 October 2015, 01:06

One torx screw to undo push the old footrest towards the bulkhead at it will come off. You will then see that there are a couple of locating lugs underneath that keep it secure. Be careful with the new one as the lugs are a little tight and might needs a little bit shaving off them otherwise they could snap off when you try to pull it back into place. Otherwise the quality is superb.
As for the paddles. No, lost interest when it became apparent the Audi ones wouldn't fit. I haven't seen any others that I like and I don't think the stick on ones would be up to the job long term  :undecided:

Ah, prefect, thanks so much. :smiley:

I've not seen anything either paddle wise, the long ones are not to my taste, look a bit flimsy and chavvy. Will keep looking.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 18 October 2015, 17:36

I'm tempted to just repost the quote myself just to annoy you, but because I'm nice and I like you, I won't.  :kiss: :laugh:

A belated thank you Miss Booth.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 18 October 2015, 21:35

I'm tempted to just repost the quote myself just to annoy you, but because I'm nice and I like you, I won't.  :kiss: :laugh:

A belated thank you Miss Booth.  :smiley:

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 18 October 2015, 21:36
Since I rather like my new R, I thought I'd give it a bit of TLC

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275907.msg2522148#msg2522148
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: seabrook132 on 21 October 2015, 21:37
Loving the new sig Mrs B :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 October 2015, 22:27
Loving the new sig Mrs B :)

Ta, Dan.  :smiley:

Took me ages last night to get the perfect quartet of images, tried in all different orders.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 22 October 2015, 05:20
Loving the new sig Mrs B :)

Ta, Dan.  :smiley:

Took me ages last night to get the perfect quartet of images, tried in all different orders.  :laugh:

Good work Ms B
A lasting reminder of your hard work and roast beef!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 22 October 2015, 13:57
Loving the new sig Mrs B :)

Ta, Dan.  :smiley:

Took me ages last night to get the perfect quartet of images, tried in all different orders.  :laugh:

Good work Ms B
A lasting reminder of your hard work and roast beef!


I was a good roast beef, but the R was better!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: charlie on 22 October 2015, 14:55
R looks out standing booth hope your enjoying it. I'm back no wifi for a while so glad to be back on line. Britishtelecom are steam run need I say anymore  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 22 October 2015, 16:23
R looks out standing booth hope your enjoying it. I'm back no wifi for a while so glad to be back on line. Britishtelecom are steam run need I say anymore  :smiley:

Charlie, good to have you back online.  :smiley:

The R is great, exceeded my expectations, is a thrilling drive and worth the stupid 8 month wait, which was forgotten after just a few miles.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JakeF on 31 October 2015, 18:11
After all your praise of the R, I've gone and done what 18 months ago I couldn't possibly imagine myself doing - I've gone and ordered a Golf R! Admittedly it is the R Estate, but I've gone for lapiz blue  :laugh:

Now begins the very long wait for it to be built. Inchape VW West London are quoting 20 weeks...
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 October 2015, 22:39
After all your praise of the R, I've gone and done what 18 months ago I couldn't possibly imagine myself doing - I've gone and ordered a Golf R! Admittedly it is the R Estate, but I've gone for lapiz blue  :laugh:

Now begins the very long wait for it to be built. Inchape VW West London are quoting 20 weeks...

Congratulations Jake!  Hope you think it's worth the wait, and that the wait won't be too long and arduous for you.

Look forward to eventually hearing your thoughts too, although I have to tell you I still think an R in Estate form is an abomination. :laugh:  (sorry)  Though I admit they look better than I originally thought.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 October 2015, 22:47
Continuing my 'thoughts on the R' - I drove it quite a lot today on various rural roads including tonight (going and returning  from a trip to the cinema to watch the new James Bond film - I won't ruin it for those of you who haven't seen it yet, lol).  Anyway a good chance to experience the High Beam Assist which was a cheap and cheerful option I specced.  Impressive! Works really, really well on those dark long rural roads and seems to intelligently dip the beam at approaching oncoming traffic or if traffic directly in front of you. Worked better than I was expecting and one of what I consider to be proper 'convenience' aids, i.e just makes driving a bit easier without taking over the main decisions.

Also drove it the whole day in Race mode with some paddle action. Apart from the mad Soundaktor droning away, it was a a lively day of driving and the turbo got rather hot under the bonnet.

If anyone is speccing up a car, then this cheap option is well worth considering.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JakeF on 01 November 2015, 10:27
although I have to tell you I still think an R in Estate form is an abomination. :laugh:  (sorry)  Though I admit they look better than I originally thought.

I didn't expect to have much support on this forum for the estate form to be fair! :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 01 November 2015, 10:30
although I have to tell you I still think an R in Estate form is an abomination. :laugh:  (sorry)  Though I admit they look better than I originally thought.

I didn't expect to have much support on this forum for the estate form to be fair! :grin:

Well if you're going to go from a GTI to an R then to make it seem a bit different you might as well get a longer version!
What spec is your R going to be?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JakeF on 01 November 2015, 11:02
although I have to tell you I still think an R in Estate form is an abomination. :laugh:  (sorry)  Though I admit they look better than I originally thought.

I didn't expect to have much support on this forum for the estate form to be fair! :grin:

Well if you're going to go from a GTI to an R then to make it seem a bit different you might as well get a longer version!
What spec is your R going to be?

Lapiz blue, with the 18" Cadiz wheels, then pretty much every option apart from DCC. I get like a kid in a sweet shop with optional extras it seems...
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 01 November 2015, 12:24
I like your thinking Jake, no umming and ahhing, just a simple "I'll have the lot"!!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 01 November 2015, 13:39

Lapiz blue, with the 18" Cadiz wheels, then pretty much every option apart from DCC. I get like a kid in a sweet shop with optional extras it seems...

Very nice spec Jake. :cool: DCC not needed with 18's IMO. 

Despite my difficulty in coming to terms with an R Estate  :laugh:, I'm really looking forward to seeing yours when it hits these shores!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Cossieian on 01 November 2015, 18:52
Car looks superb as ever, FairPlay to ya :smiley:

I meant to spec High Beam Assist and Reversing camera when ordering my R, during the excitement I forgot clean about these 2 options, when I finnally remembered it was too late :sick:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 01 November 2015, 19:23
Car looks superb as ever, FairPlay to ya :smiley:

I meant to spec High Beam Assist and Reversing camera when ordering my R, during the excitement I forgot clean about these 2 options, when I finnally remembered it was too late :sick:

You're not missing anything with the reverse camera apart from a picture of what's behind you, which is often not that interesting.  :laugh:

HBA has been a pleasant surprise, it was something I added as a last minute whim because it was cheap.  Still it's not that hard to push/pull the stalk.  That said I think I've forgotten how to do it now, lol.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 01 November 2015, 19:25
Meant to ask Cossieian, how are you getting on with the DSG now?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Cossieian on 01 November 2015, 19:56
Meant to ask Cossieian, how are you getting on with the DSG now?

Really good Thankyou, been out today again for a good while and really getting to know it now, it really is a dream to use, having it in Automatic is a pleasure then when I see a nice piece of road coming up change to the paddles which are loads of fun, all in all fantastic bit of kit :grin:

PS thanks for asking and thanks for the great tips in my other post, applies for not replying too much as I've been too busy enjoying myself :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 01 November 2015, 20:23
Meant to ask Cossieian, how are you getting on with the DSG now?

Really good Thankyou, been out today again for a good while and really getting to know it now, it really is a dream to use, having it in Automatic is a pleasure then when I see a nice piece of road coming up change to the paddles which are loads of fun, all in all fantastic bit of kit :grin:

PS thanks for asking and thanks for the great tips in my other post, applies for not replying too much as I've been too busy enjoying myself :smiley:

Really glad you are getting used to it.  It's is a  fantastic bit of kit. No need to apologise at all, just great to hear you are out there enjoying the car.  :smiley: :cool:

When I first changed over to DSG, one thing I found myself doing was tucking my left foot under which led to a crooked, achey ankle.  Took me a while to train myself to stretch that leg out and use the footrest/dead pedal rest.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 01 November 2015, 21:56
What exactly did you find to tuck your foot under?
The floor mats? Your derrière? Your chin?

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 01 November 2015, 22:01
What exactly did you find to tuck your foot under?
The floor mats? Your derrière? Your chin?

Well as a regular practitioner of both yoga and pilates, I can tell I could've tucked it under my posterior, but the chin would be at the limits of my flexibility.  :laugh:

No, I just seemed to end up twisting it inwards and tucking it sort of under the seat. Just couldn't stop doing it for ages, and then when I would get out after a longish journey, I would have to hobble out in pain.  Part of the reason I bought a dead pedal plate for my Mk6 was to try and lure my foot towards it with a bit of bling. :grin: It finally worked and I never do it now.

Reminds me, I must order that new cover for my R dead pedal.....
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 02 November 2015, 09:48
I so wish Mrs W had ordered the Prets, maybe I should lend her mine

Glad you are enjoying it, total allrounder, easy to potter and then engage manual when you want some more fun

Its the time of year when it comes into its own
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 02 November 2015, 11:47
I so wish Mrs W had ordered the Prets, maybe I should lend her mine

Glad you are enjoying it, total allrounder, easy to potter and then engage manual when you want some more fun

Its the time of year when it comes into its own

Give mrs wigit your Prets, bet they look great with NB :cool:  They are fiddly to clean though.

It's a great all rounder, sedate and subtle when you want, then a little monster at other times.  I'm already having a blast in the damp. It's going to be a fun winter this year.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JakeF on 19 January 2016, 20:41
Just to say I picked up my R Estate on Saturday, photos here: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838.msg2528980#msg2528980 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838.msg2528980#msg2528980)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Misterp on 19 January 2016, 23:06
I test drove a DSG on Saturday whilst I erm and ah over R or club sport. My 3 years finish in September so now is a good time to change. Been told that specs 'should' be released by end of Jan. So I will wait until early Feb before I actually decide. All I can say is that the power is so planted and stable even in the light snow we had over the weekend. Comes to life when you want it. I now see what everyone has been raving about.

The question is spec for me leather (is it worth It now that the nipper is older and less prone to making a mess) or the standard and paying a local upholsterer to do me a custom job for a similar price. With Reversing Camera sat Nav car net app and keyless as a must. I'm leaning towards buying my own BBS rims.

But defo leaning towards an r at the moment.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 19 January 2016, 23:22
In terms of residuals I'm wondering if it's too big of a risk to purchase an R at this moment. There seems to be loads of them on the road and with all these cheap lease deals coming to an end soon the second hand market is going to be flooded with them. I pass by my local dealership everyday on the way to work and they've had a brand new white R sitting in the forecourt for at least 4 months. This was unheard of a year ago.

I know you can get some cracking deals just now but when it comes to trade in time God knows what you will get offered. I always thought buying a VW was a pretty safe bet for good residuals but I'm not convinced any longer.

Perhaps the clubsport is the better one to go for.

I'm quite dissapointed in VW in terms of what they've done with the R by allowing/encouraging these cheap lease deals. Seeing an R on the road should be an event and a car that really turns your head because of its scarcity but that's just not the case. Yes, it gets a great write up but it's just lost that specialness in my eyes because of how often I see them. It's a real shame
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: barrym381 on 19 January 2016, 23:29
In terms of residuals I'm wondering if it's too big of a risk to purchase an R at this moment. There seems to be loads of them on the road and with all these cheap lease deals coming to an end soon the second hand market is going to be flooded with them. I pass by my local dealership everyday on the way to work and they've had a brand new white R sitting in the forecourt for at least 4 months. This was unheard of a year ago.

I know you can get some cracking deals just now but when it comes to trade in time God knows what you will get offered. I always thought buying a VW was a pretty safe bet for good residuals but I'm not convinced any longer.

Perhaps the clubsport is the better one to go for.
Has the bmw idea gone then  :smiley: and could your contact in Gti world not get you a decent deal on the r
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 19 January 2016, 23:32
In terms of residuals I'm wondering if it's too big of a risk to purchase an R at this moment. There seems to be loads of them on the road and with all these cheap lease deals coming to an end soon the second hand market is going to be flooded with them. I pass by my local dealership everyday on the way to work and they've had a brand new white R sitting in the forecourt for at least 4 months. This was unheard of a year ago.

I know you can get some cracking deals just now but when it comes to trade in time God knows what you will get offered. I always thought buying a VW was a pretty safe bet for good residuals but I'm not convinced any longer.

Perhaps the clubsport is the better one to go for.
Has the bmw idea gone then  :smiley: and could your contact in Gti world not get you a decent deal on the r

Im sure he could Barry, just added to my post above that I think R has become to common and not special enough. Still keen on the BMW and have made a few tentative enquirers but early days yet  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: barrym381 on 19 January 2016, 23:38
I know what you mean with them being common as there is loads of them in Glasgow in all colours you actually see less Gti mk7s on the roads now  :smiley:

I see drive the deal has a special offer on the s3  :whistle: or the new TT

https://www.drivethedeal.com/specialoffers.aspx
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 19 January 2016, 23:43
I know what you mean with them being common as there is loads of them in Glasgow in all colours you actually see less Gti mk7s on the roads now  :smiley:

I see drive the deal has a special offer on the s3  :whistle: or the new TT

https://www.drivethedeal.com/specialoffers.aspx

Wow amazing savings to be had especially on that TT. There doesn't seem to be too many brokers out there who quote on beemers unfortunately  :sad:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: barrym381 on 19 January 2016, 23:48
I know what you mean with them being common as there is loads of them in Glasgow in all colours you actually see less Gti mk7s on the roads now  :smiley:

I see drive the deal has a special offer on the s3  :whistle: or the new TT

https://www.drivethedeal.com/specialoffers.aspx

Wow amazing savings to be had especially on that TT. There doesn't seem to be too many brokers out there who quote on beemers unfortunately  :sad:
I seen that and it comes on 20inch rims in white too   :drool: surprised your having trouble finding a dealer to give you quotes on the bmw
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 19 January 2016, 23:52
I know what you mean with them being common as there is loads of them in Glasgow in all colours you actually see less Gti mk7s on the roads now  :smiley:

I see drive the deal has a special offer on the s3  :whistle: or the new TT

https://www.drivethedeal.com/specialoffers.aspx

Wow amazing savings to be had especially on that TT. There doesn't seem to be too many brokers out there who quote on beemers unfortunately  :sad:
I seen that and it comes on 20inch rims in white too   :drool: surprised your having trouble finding a dealer to give you quotes on the bmw

It's more the brokers websites than actual dealers that I'm looking for just to give me an indication of what discount I could possibly achieve. BMW are not quoted on DTD, Carwow, orange wheels etc
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: barrym381 on 19 January 2016, 23:58
Found a couple with a quick google search  :smiley:

http://www.broker4cars.co.uk/bmw.htm
http://www.carfile.net/business/bmw-car-purchase/
http://www.new-car-discount.com/car/bmw/2-series-coupe/coupe/petrol/automatic/m235i-2dr-nav-step-auto/15/
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 January 2016, 06:42


It's more the brokers websites than actual dealers that I'm looking for just to give me an indication of what discount I could possibly achieve. BMW are not quoted on DTD, Carwow, orange wheels etc

If you're looking for BMW quotes, the best are usually coast2coast cars.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 20 January 2016, 09:16
I test drove a DSG on Saturday whilst I erm and ah over R or club sport. My 3 years finish in September so now is a good time to change. Been told that specs 'should' be released by end of Jan. So I will wait until early Feb before I actually decide. All I can say is that the power is so planted and stable even in the light snow we had over the weekend. Comes to life when you want it. I now see what everyone has been raving about.

The question is spec for me leather (is it worth It now that the nipper is older and less prone to making a mess) or the standard and paying a local upholsterer to do me a custom job for a similar price. With Reversing Camera sat Nav car net app and keyless as a must. I'm leaning towards buying my own BBS rims.

But defo leaning towards an r at the moment.

I'm the same, I have ordered a GTD estate for me but we are thinking of changing my wife's Mk6 GTi for an R, the best price we got was £33,673 and that was for a 5 door DSG in oryx white and with over £5,200 worth of extras(excluding paint) but they are so common around here that I find it a surprise to see a GTi

We are almost set on a Clubsport now though because it will be a keeper. Our dealer has said the same about the Clubsport details being announced at the end of this month so we are waiting until then to see what way we can spec it.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: matchboy on 20 January 2016, 13:04
It's more the brokers websites than actual dealers that I'm looking for just to give me an indication of what discount I could possibly achieve. BMW are not quoted on DTD, Carwow, orange wheels etc

Which Beemer are you looking at Craig?  Why don't you hold out a few months and go for the M2  :evil:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Misterp on 20 January 2016, 16:13
I test drove a DSG on Saturday whilst I erm and ah over R or club sport. My 3 years finish in September so now is a good time to change. Been told that specs 'should' be released by end of Jan. So I will wait until early Feb before I actually decide. All I can say is that the power is so planted and stable even in the light snow we had over the weekend. Comes to life when you want it. I now see what everyone has been raving about.

The question is spec for me leather (is it worth It now that the nipper is older and less prone to making a mess) or the standard and paying a local upholsterer to do me a custom job for a similar price. With Reversing Camera sat Nav car net app and keyless as a must. I'm leaning towards buying my own BBS rims.

But defo leaning towards an r at the moment.

I'm the same, I have ordered a GTD estate for me but we are thinking of changing my wife's Mk6 GTi for an R, the best price we got was £33,673 and that was for a 5 door DSG in oryx white and with over £5,200 worth of extras(excluding paint) but they are so common around here that I find it a surprise to see a GTi

We are almost set on a Clubsport now though because it will be a keeper. Our dealer has said the same about the Clubsport details being announced at the end of this month so we are waiting until then to see what way we can spec it.

I'm a bit hesitant on the club sport especially after seeing the German spec and the inability to spec certain extras with bucket seats. Dealer did concede that diesels have taken a bit of a hammering on GFV due to some part to dieselgate and also the uncertainty surrounding the the future taxes that may be levied against diesels.

Either way I will wait until early Feb before making decision I have seen the offer on the S3 on DTD but that was a 3 door when I last checked plus they don't offer px carwow through back some good deals but to get equivalent spect to an r costs.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 20 January 2016, 16:34
It's more the brokers websites than actual dealers that I'm looking for just to give me an indication of what discount I could possibly achieve. BMW are not quoted on DTD, Carwow, orange wheels etc

Which Beemer are you looking at Craig?  Why don't you hold out a few months and go for the M2  :evil:

If only Mark, it looks awesome. It's a bit outside my price range and I think they may be all sold out but I would love one that's for sure
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 20 January 2016, 19:25
I test drove a DSG on Saturday whilst I erm and ah over R or club sport. My 3 years finish in September so now is a good time to change. Been told that specs 'should' be released by end of Jan. So I will wait until early Feb before I actually decide. All I can say is that the power is so planted and stable even in the light snow we had over the weekend. Comes to life when you want it. I now see what everyone has been raving about.

The question is spec for me leather (is it worth It now that the nipper is older and less prone to making a mess) or the standard and paying a local upholsterer to do me a custom job for a similar price. With Reversing Camera sat Nav car net app and keyless as a must. I'm leaning towards buying my own BBS rims.

But defo leaning towards an r at the moment.

I'm the same, I have ordered a GTD estate for me but we are thinking of changing my wife's Mk6 GTi for an R, the best price we got was £33,673 and that was for a 5 door DSG in oryx white and with over £5,200 worth of extras(excluding paint) but they are so common around here that I find it a surprise to see a GTi

We are almost set on a Clubsport now though because it will be a keeper. Our dealer has said the same about the Clubsport details being announced at the end of this month so we are waiting until then to see what way we can spec it.

I'm a bit hesitant on the club sport especially after seeing the German spec and the inability to spec certain extras with bucket seats. Dealer did concede that diesels have taken a bit of a hammering on GFV due to some part to dieselgate and also the uncertainty surrounding the the future taxes that may be levied against diesels.

Either way I will wait until early Feb before making decision I have seen the offer on the S3 on DTD but that was a 3 door when I last checked plus they don't offer px carwow through back some good deals but to get equivalent spect to an r costs.

We are the same about the spec on the Clubsport. That is why we are waiting to see what the options are. Can't really go by the German one because they get different things to us.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 January 2016, 21:28
Same here for the Clubsport, but will have to see final UK spec. Seems a lot of the info on the German configurator is not correct, but for sure some kit can't be taken with the buckets.

Still torn on an R, if they did free leather then I'd be in, even though I now see loads around.

Dave
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 20 January 2016, 21:48
May I suggest a "Thoughts on the Clubsport" thread  :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Cossieian on 20 January 2016, 21:50
May I suggest a "Thoughts on the Clubsport" thread  :wink: :grin:

I agree, Rebecca's thread has turned into something other than originally posted...BAD FORM :angry:

BTW how's the car going Becs?? Many miles on it now?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 20 January 2016, 22:01
May I suggest a "Thoughts on the Clubsport" thread  :wink: :grin:

I agree, Rebecca's thread has turned into something other than originally posted...BAD FORM :angry:

BTW how's the car going Becs?? Many miles on it now?

Let's play nice, no requirement for shouting
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 20 January 2016, 22:29
I don't mind the thread hijack but it seems logical to start a dedicated Clubsport thread - helps if anyone looking for info or chat on the Clubsport, an R thread not the obvious place to search. :wink:

I need to bring this thread up-to-date as I was kind of planning to use it as my 'R progress' thread but have fallen behind.  Also intend to add a follow up '6 month' review in March.

So yeah.......GET OUTTA MY THREAD!  :grin: :grin: :grin: (sorry, was I shouting :tongue:)

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 20 January 2016, 22:45
May I suggest a "Thoughts on the Clubsport" thread  :wink: :grin:

I agree, Rebecca's thread has turned into something other than originally posted...BAD FORM :angry:

BTW how's the car going Becs?? Many miles on it now?

Not as many as I expected Ian.  Only 2300 atm. Normally I would be looking at over 3k by now.  Reason it's lower is we now have the Beast (Amarok) which is 4 doors and as other half loves it, seems to get used for family duty at weekends.  Prior to that he had a 2 seater van so my car did all the family stuff.

Don't mind, R is used every day by me weekdays for work, so plenty of me and it time together, lol. Apart from the school run (mornings only) it's usually just me in the R, so can drive it just the way I like.   And got a trip to back to my home county - West Yorks in 3 weeks (to visit my folks), so get some more miles on it in the Pennines and will be taking it over Snake Pass for some fun.  Looking forward to a change of scenery and some much missed hills (proper northern ones)

But the car is going great Ian, apart from the full lock 'crunk'.  Some days I notice it and others, not!  Would dearly love some snow to try it out on but not looking likely.  Done a few cosmetic mods as you probably know and must update these in this thread - will do that in next couple of days.  And then there's the detailing side, which is a way of life, haha.  Never ends!

I love the car.  I've even turned the soundaktor back to audible volume (normal) this week as I fancy a bit of fake noise.  :laugh:

I know you got some issues with yours Ian.  What's the latest?  VW still not playing ball?  :sad:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Misterp on 20 January 2016, 22:48
Apologies. I shall show myself out.   :sad:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 20 January 2016, 22:51
Apologies. I shall show myself out.   :sad:

Let me get the door for you (only joking). :laugh: Was nice of you to visit.

Fancy an R Misterp....no?  :cry:  such a common car, I don't blame you.  :grin:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 21 January 2016, 05:27
My car has very similar miles to yours Ms B and also has weird front end noises at very low speeds when steering lock is applied.
I wonder if the problem is winter related as I'm sure I don't remember mine being noisy until recently.

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Misterp on 21 January 2016, 08:45
Apologies. I shall show myself out.   :sad:

Let me get the door for you (only joking). :laugh: Was nice of you to visit.

Fancy an R Misterp....no?  :cry:  such a common car, I don't blame you.  :grin:

Honestly as I said earlier I would but like others have said concern is The GFV But definitely as you have said and others fantastic car from the 2 hours I had one on Sunday.

On a separate note my GTD makes a noise on a full lock from time to time dunno what it could be. Tried to look for a cause nothing to report.

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 January 2016, 09:13
Apologies. I shall show myself out.   :sad:

Let me get the door for you (only joking). :laugh: Was nice of you to visit.

Fancy an R Misterp....no?  :cry:  such a common car, I don't blame you.  :grin:

Honestly as I said earlier I would but like others have said concern is The GFV But definitely as you have said and others fantastic car from the 2 hours I had one on Sunday.

On a separate note my GTD makes a noise on a full lock from time to time dunno what it could be. Tried to look for a cause nothing to report.

The full lock noise is a consequence of winter I think.  Has it only started with the colder weather?

I understand your concerns about GFV etc.  The R is a great car. The fact there's a lot out on the roads doesn't bother me at all.  I couldn't care less, but if it's rarity you want.....

....this way to the Clubsport thread  ➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️   :laugh:  Which I'm sure will also be a superb car.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 January 2016, 09:18
My car has very similar miles to yours Ms B and also has weird front end noises at very low speeds when steering lock is applied.
I wonder if the problem is winter related as I'm sure I don't remember mine being noisy until recently.

I'm reclaiming this thread as an R thread.  :laugh:

I agree Mr Ex, I think it is all to do with winter.  Now I only got mine right at the end of Sept, but the weather was very mild and there were no knocking, creaking or rubbing noises at full lock or in any other scenarios.  It only started when the temps dropped and humidity changed, and this is why I'm not overly concerned about it, or planning to further investigate until spring has come around, hopefully bringing some warner weather with it.  Will see what the situation is then.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 21 January 2016, 11:01
The .:R Estate is featured in the issue of VW Driver that landed on my mat this morning for those that are interested.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: matchboy on 21 January 2016, 15:37
It's more the brokers websites than actual dealers that I'm looking for just to give me an indication of what discount I could possibly achieve. BMW are not quoted on DTD, Carwow, orange wheels etc

Which Beemer are you looking at Craig?  Why don't you hold out a few months and go for the M2  :evil:

If only Mark, it looks awesome. It's a bit outside my price range and I think they may be all sold out but I would love one that's for sure

Hold off for a year, pick up a 9mth/year old one - someone else has taken the hit on the high price (and the pesky 1,000 mile first service) - then it'll be even more appealing!  Looks an immense car!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 21 January 2016, 15:41
The .:R Estate is featured in the issue of VW Driver that landed on my mat this morning for those that are interested.

Mine popped through the letter box at lunchtime too. Not looked at the mag yet.

Can't get my head around GTD and R estates.
At least the GTI hasn't been diluted in such a way yet.
Sorry, did I say GTI in this thread? OOPS!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 January 2016, 15:56
The .:R Estate is featured in the issue of VW Driver that landed on my mat this morning for those that are interested.


Mine popped through the letter box at lunchtime too. Not looked at the mag yet.

Can't get my head around GTD and R estates.
At least the GTI hasn't been diluted in such a way yet.
Sorry, did I say GTI in this thread? OOPS!  :laugh:

I'll have a look at my copy tonight, if it's turned up.

The R Estate is still an abonimation in my eyes.  It shouldn't exist.  If they ever produce a GTI Estate, I'll be very, very depressed. :sad:  But setting aside my obvious prejudice against it, it still looks 'wrong' to me, especially the rear end.  The lines don't gel.  Simon's Passat looks much better.  A hot hatch should NEVER become an estate. 

Now, now Mr Ex!  All joking aside, anyone can post whatever they like in here (within reason, ahem) but since there already is CS thread surely that talk is better in there???   :tongue:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 21 January 2016, 16:01
It's more the brokers websites than actual dealers that I'm looking for just to give me an indication of what discount I could possibly achieve. BMW are not quoted on DTD, Carwow, orange wheels etc

Which Beemer are you looking at Craig?  Why don't you hold out a few months and go for the M2  :evil:

If only Mark, it looks awesome. It's a bit outside my price range and I think they may be all sold out but I would love one that's for sure

Hold off for a year, pick up a 9mth/year old one - someone else has taken the hit on the high price (and the pesky 1,000 mile first service) - then it'll be even more appealing!  Looks an immense car!

I think the M2 like the old M1 might be one of those rare cars that appreciate in value so a second hand one may be more expensive, it certainly wouldn't surprise me
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 21 January 2016, 17:04
The R Estate is still an abonimation in my eyes.  It shouldn't exist.

As VW Driver point out, it's the next in the line, Passat V6 syncro, Passat W8, Passat R36... Yes I know they are all Passats and there is the current Passat BiTDI, but the Golf is probably the same size as older fast Audi A4 Avants, and they did alright.

The biggest let down to me is the stock rear lights with tungsten bulbs as opposed to distinctive LEDs. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Cossieian on 21 January 2016, 17:12
Hi Becs, I'm glad your still loving your car (I obviously knew you would), btw them amount of miles are pathetic lol, I've had mine a month less and done 3300 miles I just can't stay out of it.
Regarding the rubbing noise on lock, VW have been trying to contact me all this week as they want the car back to investigate it so I can't blame the for not trying, if I'm 100% honest it hasn't made a sound for 2 weeks now (which obviously is a good thing) but will not help leaving it into the dealers with nothing to investigate, so I'm holding off until it returns.
I also believe it is very weather dependant, the sound only appears around a certain temperature, this sounds crazy BUT i believe it's true :laugh:
Anyway I still love the car, it's truly an awesome car, very happy :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: matchboy on 21 January 2016, 17:24
I think the M2 like the old M1 might be one of those rare cars that appreciate in value so a second hand one may be more expensive, it certainly wouldn't surprise me

You could be right.  It's certainly a very much anticipated car.  Or, it could be like the M3/M4 whereby you can pick up a year old one with thousands off what a new one cost - loads of them around!  Only time will tell!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 January 2016, 19:08
I think the M2 like the old M1 might be one of those rare cars that appreciate in value so a second hand one may be more expensive, it certainly wouldn't surprise me

You could be right.  It's certainly a very much anticipated car.  Or, it could be like the M3/M4 whereby you can pick up a year old one with thousands off what a new one cost - loads of them around!  Only time will tell!

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR  :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 January 2016, 21:18
Hi Becs, I'm glad your still loving your car (I obviously knew you would), btw them amount of miles are pathetic lol, I've had mine a month less and done 3300 miles I just can't stay out of it.
Regarding the rubbing noise on lock, VW have been trying to contact me all this week as they want the car back to investigate it so I can't blame the for not trying, if I'm 100% honest it hasn't made a sound for 2 weeks now (which obviously is a good thing) but will not help leaving it into the dealers with nothing to investigate, so I'm holding off until it returns.
I also believe it is very weather dependant, the sound only appears around a certain temperature, this sounds crazy BUT i believe it's true :laugh:
Anyway I still love the car, it's truly an awesome car, very happy :smiley:

Hi Ian, your're right to wait until it starts again.  At least they are now acknowledging it properly which is a step forward if it does turn out to be more than a weather induced effect.

I know my mileage is pathetic atm, I feel shame, lol.  Mind you I usually only do average mileage per annum - about 9-10k so not mega miles.  I tell you I feel disappointed when my other half says we are taking the truck on weekend outings.  Might have to put my foot down, literally, haha.  Still the R gets lots of use in the week but not necessarily lots of miles. 

The city traffic in Canterbury has gone into total meltdown.  This morning it took an hour to drive 2 miles and that's becoming a regular occurrence.  It's been all over the local papers the last few weeks.  Even worse, I work in Transport and Environment section of the local council and we are responsible for trying to resolve the transportation issues.  Fortunately my remit is the Environment side of things (green sh!t as my boss, the transportation manager, calls it, lol).  It's killing my average mpg.  Normal runs get 27mpg and 24 when traffic is free flowing but on days like today where I spent 3 hours of my working day sat in traffic, it's 14mpg.  :shocked: Costing me a bloody fortune in petrol, although to be fair 2/3 is paid by work.  But is the R worth it.....YES!  Anyway, will do my best to clock up some more miles and Yorkshire trip will help. 

Keep us posted on your car.  Have you bonded with your new wheels yet, or still on the lookout for some more?  Any luck finding a set of reasonably priced genuine Prets yet?  Glad you are still liking your lovely R.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Cossieian on 21 January 2016, 21:35
Still not 100% on the new wheels Becs but there are times when I look at it and think it looks good :smiley:
Funny thing is everyone else seems to love them, even my mum and dad lol

Still looking everyday for a set of prets but nothing has appeared, it will take time but will hopefully get a set sometime  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 January 2016, 22:20
Still not 100% on the new wheels Becs but there are times when I look at it and think it looks good :smiley:
Funny thing is everyone else seems to love them, even my mum and dad lol

Still looking everyday for a set of prets but nothing has appeared, it will take time but will hopefully get a set sometime  :grin:

Well you know mums and dads are never wrong. :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 21 January 2016, 22:52
Still not 100% on the new wheels Becs but there are times when I look at it and think it looks good :smiley:
Funny thing is everyone else seems to love them, even my mum and dad lol

Still looking everyday for a set of prets but nothing has appeared, it will take time but will hopefully get a set sometime  :grin:

The BBS are far nicer than the prets
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 January 2016, 22:57
The R Estate is still an abonimation in my eyes.  It shouldn't exist.

As VW Driver point out, it's the next in the line, Passat V6 syncro, Passat W8, Passat R36... Yes I know they are all Passats and there is the current Passat BiTDI, but the Golf is probably the same size as older fast Audi A4 Avants, and they did alright.

The biggest let down to me is the stock rear lights with tungsten bulbs as opposed to distinctive LEDs. 

Yeah I see where you are coming from, but the Passat has never been a hot hatch.  I stand by my objections. 

The stock rear lights look crap on the estate, apparently it's to do with the volume of how many are turned out - more cost effective to raid the parts bin of normal estate, or so I read elsewhere recently.

Are you tempted Simon?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 21 January 2016, 23:16
Still not 100% on the new wheels Becs but there are times when I look at it and think it looks good :smiley:
Funny thing is everyone else seems to love them, even my mum and dad lol

Still looking everyday for a set of prets but nothing has appeared, it will take time but will hopefully get a set sometime  :grin:

Why not get a set of BBS XA? Close in style to a Pret, wider and in a better offset. And best of all - cheaper (but far from cheap)
I'd like a set of XA's myself.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 22 January 2016, 07:13
I know it's all about opinions but what is the deal with prets?
For me, they are very average looking wheels and VW should be doing much better in the design department for a car like the R.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 22 January 2016, 08:29
Are you tempted Simon?

Nope. I appreciate a nice car and actually quite like the idea of a quick estate, but don't have enough desire to want one anymore.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 22 January 2016, 14:07
I know it's all about opinions but what is the deal with prets?
For me, they are very average looking wheels and VW should be doing much better in the design department for a car like the R.
They suit the car quite well, are light (for 19"ers) and don't have any fussy bits in the design.
But one of the big draws is that there's no polished sections.

Polished alloys look fantastic gleaming in the sunlight but are designed for countries where they either fit winter wheels during the colder months or they just don't get cold weather.
Santiagos look fantastic but there are lots of tiny spokes that make them hideously difficult to clean, and nigh on impossible to clean the inside of the wheel if you're not armed with very specialised wheel brushes.

Then there's the issue of repairing them once damaged or when the winter salt has got under the lacquer.

That's why Pretorias are popular.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Watts on 22 January 2016, 14:30
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Santiagos look fantastic but there are lots of tiny spokes that make them hideously difficult to clean, and nigh on impossible to clean the inside of the wheel
[/quote]

I can get most of the inners of my Santiagos clean from the outside but once I over-reached, panicked and couldn't remember how I'd twisted my hand to get to where it was! I had visions of the Fire Brigade being called out!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 22 January 2016, 20:30
I know it's all about opinions but what is the deal with prets?
For me, they are very average looking wheels and VW should be doing much better in the design department for a car like the R.
They suit the car quite well, are light (for 19"ers) and don't have any fussy bits in the design.
But one of the big draws is that there's no polished sections.

Polished alloys look fantastic gleaming in the sunlight but are designed for countries where they either fit winter wheels during the colder months or they just don't get cold weather.
Santiagos look fantastic but there are lots of tiny spokes that make them hideously difficult to clean, and nigh on impossible to clean the inside of the wheel if you're not armed with very specialised wheel brushes.

Then there's the issue of repairing them once damaged or when the winter salt has got under the lacquer.

That's why Pretorias are popular.

Beautifully summed up.  Agree with every single point.  Pretorias are great because they are the perfect antidote to over fussy, heavy, and kerb magnet, overdone diamond cut alloys.  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 22 January 2016, 20:59
Just a pity they're a bit ugly :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 22 January 2016, 21:15
Just a pity they're a bit ugly :laugh:

 :rolleyes:

Lucky you don't have them then. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 22 January 2016, 22:08
prets look so good they have put them on the club sport  :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 22 January 2016, 22:40
No more Pret bashing from me as I know I'm in a small minority who aren't too keen on them.
And besides, my van is sporting 15'' steelys with big thick ( Continental ) tyres .
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: remlapeel on 22 January 2016, 23:51
No more Pret bashing from me as I know I'm in a small minority who aren't too keen on them.
And besides, my van is sporting 15'' steelys with big thick ( Continental ) tyres .

I didn't want prets with mine, but that's all I could get hold of without waiting the 9months. In the flesh they look awesome and suit the R to perfection. There is another Lapis blue R around here on standard wheels and looks nowhere near as good as mine on prets....and he knows it 😏
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 23 January 2016, 08:40
I think the Cadiz wheels would look far better if they were 19's. Hence my comment about the R having 19's as standard.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 18:46
It's been a while since I updated this thread with car progress. I have posted the few mini mods elsewhere, but nice to keep them in this thread too as a record of what I've done.

Just after getting the car end of Sept 15, swapped out the white footwell LEDs for blue ones in October. Decided a few other tweaks were needed.

November 2015 - Fitted door sill protectors

Passenger side front and rear
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Driver side front and rear
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Next up was swapping the oem paddle shifters for some S2T shifters.

My installation guide here http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276214.0

Before
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After

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Followed by some new R logo’d mats for the new year Jan 2016

From http://www.carmats2u.co.uk//vw-golf-car-mats-mk7-2013-onwards-2486-p.asp

I opted for the black Premier Super Lux with twin tone fabric edging in electric blue/black and R logo on fronts - push button fixing.  They are really excellent quality - very deep pile and extra wear pad on the driver's mat.  The blue of the two tone edging is brighter in the flesh than the pics show.  They are also available with a faux leather edge and in retrospect that might have matched the R logo better, but I quite like the more subtle edging, which makes the R logo stand out, but at the same time is more interesting than a plain black edging.  Like them a lot.

Daytime pics
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Few evening/night pics -  as anticipated (and planned when choosing the edging design/colour), the blue footwell lights pick up the blue/black edging very nicely. 

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1504/23990329759_72042bd983_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CxWHea)

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Moody night shots
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(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1462/24331868826_ef56d59041_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/D58bTL)

And today

Fitted this......

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Looks great and matches in nicely with the pedals – looks oem.  Somewhere pretty to rest my idling left foot, lol.

Purchased from here http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-2016-For-VW-Golf-7-MK7-Seat-mk3-footrest-pedals-Car-pedal-Cover/32433307485.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.11.6SzX41&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_3_10001_10002_10005_301_10006_10003_10004_62,searchweb201560_5,searchweb1451318400_6150,searchweb1451318411_6448&btsid=b0248db2-21f8-4eb5-a883-a9a7b51069db

My installation guide here http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276795.new#new
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 18:57
I'm nearly 4 months into ownership now.  The car is going brilliantly and gets better by the day (apart from the mpg  :whistle:).  I am very pleased I went for the R, it has not disappointed in any way and has only exceeded my expectations.

When I'm 6 months in, I'll do another review update.  But for now, here's a few recent pics - after a good wash of course.  :wink:

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 19:29
....and not forgetting the lovely interior...


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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: phope on 23 January 2016, 19:34
Stunning :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 23 January 2016, 20:33
Absolutely stunning but I have found another potential bit of bling for your interior that I had forgot I had already done to mine. Can't find a photo of what it is at the minute though so you will have to be held in bored suspense for a bit. Only cost about £6ish so won't break the bank either !!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 21:31
Absolutely stunning but I have found another potential bit of bling for your interior that I had forgot I had already done to mine. Can't find a photo of what it is at the minute though so you will have to be held in bored suspense for a bit. Only cost about £6ish so won't break the bank either !!

Tease!

Is it a fancy silver cover for the 12v socket in centre console???
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 23 January 2016, 22:01
i need to get some paddles, just two pins to remove on the 7?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 22:08
i need to get some paddles, just two pins to remove on the 7?

Yep one pin per paddle.  5 minute job to swap them over.

Guide here http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=276214.0

They are lovely to use, a big improvement of the teeny standard ones, but still look oem.  The S2T ones come in 3 different styles and finishes.  The ones I got are B3 in Polished Black. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 23 January 2016, 22:13
now its staying it needs bigger flappers :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 22:33
now its staying it needs bigger flappers :)

By 'it' do you mean your good lady wife, mrs wigit?  I agree, she needs bigger flappers. No R is complete without them.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 22:34
What's all this about you moving over to the dark Bavarian side? ;-)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 23 January 2016, 23:03
What's all this about you moving over to the dark Bavarian side? ;-)

I know the shame of it :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 23:05
What's all this about you moving over to the dark Bavarian side? ;-)

I know the shame of it :)

I see you still can't let the R go though, so you are forgiven :-D 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 23 January 2016, 23:30
Absolutely stunning but I have found another potential bit of bling for your interior that I had forgot I had already done to mine. Can't find a photo of what it is at the minute though so you will have to be held in bored suspense for a bit. Only cost about £6ish so won't break the bank either !!

Tease!

Is it a fancy silver cover for the 12v socket in centre console???

Yep !!  It's an Audi part.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 January 2016, 23:41
Absolutely stunning but I have found another potential bit of bling for your interior that I had forgot I had already done to mine. Can't find a photo of what it is at the minute though so you will have to be held in bored suspense for a bit. Only cost about £6ish so won't break the bank either !!

Tease!

Is it a fancy silver cover for the 12v socket in centre console???

Yep !!  It's an Audi part.

I knew it! lol.  I've seen it in someone else's R.  They sent me a pic of it ages ago but typically I can't find it now.  Soooo, any chance of a sneaky pic and part number James, when you get a minute. :wink: :smiley:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 24 January 2016, 00:04
Absolutely stunning but I have found another potential bit of bling for your interior that I had forgot I had already done to mine. Can't find a photo of what it is at the minute though so you will have to be held in bored suspense for a bit. Only cost about £6ish so won't break the bank either !!

Tease!

Is it a fancy silver cover for the 12v socket in centre console???

Yep !!  It's an Audi part.

I knew it! lol.  I've seen it in someone else's R.  They sent me a pic of it ages ago but typically I can't find it now.  Soooo, any chance of a sneaky pic and part number James, when you get a minute. :wink: :smiley:

Here you go  :smiley:
Part No:  4H0 919 311  Cost in Nov 2013 £4.64

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image_zpsg8hgvkt6.jpeg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image_zpsg8hgvkt6.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 24 January 2016, 00:13
Absolutely stunning but I have found another potential bit of bling for your interior that I had forgot I had already done to mine. Can't find a photo of what it is at the minute though so you will have to be held in bored suspense for a bit. Only cost about £6ish so won't break the bank either !!

Tease!

Is it a fancy silver cover for the 12v socket in centre console???

Yep !!  It's an Audi part.

I knew it! lol.  I've seen it in someone else's R.  They sent me a pic of it ages ago but typically I can't find it now.  Soooo, any chance of a sneaky pic and part number James, when you get a minute. :wink: :smiley:

Here you go  :smiley:
Part No:  4H0 919 311  Cost in Nov 2013 £4.64

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image_zpsg8hgvkt6.jpeg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image_zpsg8hgvkt6.jpeg.html)

:afro::afro::afro:

Perfect.  I simply must have one! 

Thank you James, you are a gentleman.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 24 January 2016, 10:10
That is nice!
Typical Audi quality.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 January 2016, 10:56
Absolutely stunning but I have found another potential bit of bling for your interior that I had forgot I had already done to mine. Can't find a photo of what it is at the minute though so you will have to be held in bored suspense for a bit. Only cost about £6ish so won't break the bank either !!

Tease!

Is it a fancy silver cover for the 12v socket in centre console???

Yep !!  It's an Audi part.

I knew it! lol.  I've seen it in someone else's R.  They sent me a pic of it ages ago but typically I can't find it now.  Soooo, any chance of a sneaky pic and part number James, when you get a minute. :wink: :smiley:

Here you go  :smiley:
Part No:  4H0 919 311  Cost in Nov 2013 £4.64

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/image_zpsg8hgvkt6.jpeg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/image_zpsg8hgvkt6.jpeg.html)

You've just reminded me. I bought and fitted this part on my GTD and took it out to put back in my R. It's been sat in a kitchen cupboard.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 24 January 2016, 13:48
Excellent write up as always Mademoiselle B.

The footrest looks great and I like how you got your sunday best mats out for photographic purposes!
I'll put both the footrest and 12v socket cover on my "to do, if I can ever get my motivation back" list.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 24 January 2016, 14:08
And today's effort.....

Quick one hour wash in the drizzle.  Unusually the weather brightened towards the end, for a change!

•   Double snow foam – VP Advanced Snow Foam

•   Wheels washed and 3 bucket wash – DJ Supernatural Shampoo

•   Vac n Blo dry and WoWo towel dry

•   Wheels dried with newly acquired WoWo Wheel Towels – excellent size and loving the black colour.

•   Tailpipes polished – Mothers Mag

•   Tyres dressed – 1 coat of Hi Shine

The C2v3 on the wheels continues to impress – dirt flew off with a blast from the pressure washer.  Even though G5 would be even better, the C2 is doing a great job.  Bye-bye Poorbooys Wheel Sealant, lol.

New WoWo Wheel Drying Towels used to mop up the few drips left after a blast with the Vac n Blo.  Fantastic size – no danger of them dragging in the gravel, and black is the perfect colour for a wheel towel.  Another superb WoWo product!  Hats off to you Neil.

Nice and clean for an hour or two!

Bit dirty to start
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Snow foam
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Vac n Blo dry off
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WoWo Wheel towels
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1 hour later
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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 24 January 2016, 14:45
I feel embarrassed.
I've not cleaned mine since October.


If my car looked that good in January after a clean Ms B I'd immediately lock it away and not use it for several weeks!!!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 24 January 2016, 15:58
i think next time in Kent i'm going to have to leave mine at the bottom of your drive

i think the flappers are going to be ordered this week
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 24 January 2016, 20:02
I feel embarrassed.
I've not cleaned mine since October.


If my car looked that good in January after a clean Ms B I'd immediately lock it away and not use it for several weeks!!!
i think next time in Kent i'm going to have to leave mine at the bottom of your drive

i think the flappers are going to be ordered this week

Bring them on over to my place - I'll do it.  My charges are normally quite high, but mates rates for you two.  :kiss:

Think mrs w will love the flappers.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 24 January 2016, 23:27
It'd be worth the trip just to see your suck'n'blow machine Ms B!

Unfortunately Noah seems to have moved in down the road from me so the car would be just as bad by the time I got home again  :cry:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Sootchucker on 25 January 2016, 12:55
As I started a "Thoughts on the GTD" thread, I just thought I would balance it by saying I personally think the "R" is a stunning machine (be it common or not), and I for one (if I had the money) would love to be driving one, as much as I also love my GTD.

The problem for me, is that whilst it's not a million miles away price wise from a stock GTD / GTD in price, I like my toys. Yes I know a lot of you just like a stock car, but in my middle aged years I think I've earned the right to have all the creature comforts I like. So for me it would be the following spec (similar spec if I ordered a GTI or a new GTD BTW).

A Golf R with 5 doors DSG, Lapis, Prets and some other nice toys, brings the price to nearly £39K vs £33.5k for a similarly specced (with 19" Santiago's) GTD. I'm not saying the "R" isn't worth it, it's just that even with the discounts available, unless I want to compromise on spec, I just can't afford one (and that's without Fuel / insurance prices as well).

Shame as I bet they are a real hoot !
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 January 2016, 13:39
As I started a "Thoughts on the GTD" thread, I just thought I would balance it by saying I personally think the "R" is a stunning machine (be it common or not), and I for one (if I had the money) would love to be driving one, as much as I also love my GTD.

The problem for me, is that whilst it's not a million miles away price wise from a stock GTD / GTD in price, I like my toys. Yes I know a lot of you just like a stock car, but in my middle aged years I think I've earned the right to have all the creature comforts I like. So for me it would be the following spec (similar spec if I ordered a GTI or a new GTD BTW).

A Golf R with 5 doors DSG, Lapis, Prets and some other nice toys, brings the price to nearly £39K vs £33.5k for a similarly specced (with 19" Santiago's) GTD. I'm not saying the "R" isn't worth it, it's just that even with the discounts available, unless I want to compromise on spec, I just can't afford one (and that's without Fuel / insurance prices as well).

Shame as I bet they are a real hoot !

Sootchucker - that would be a great spec.

I totally agree -  middle aged - want the creature comforts - work hard to pay for them.  My spec came to nearly £39k, but with broker discount came down to just under £34k.  Also got £15.5k for my mk6 sold privately last Sept, so cost to change was acceptable and got exactly the car I wanted.  Well, apart from the small cabin inadequacies, but have taken care of them myself.  :laugh:

But then you'd have to factor in the drop in mpg, coming from a GTD.  Depends on your journeys and how you drive, but it's not the best in the R.  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 25 January 2016, 14:56
they soon rack up when you start adding toys, ironically the standard spec on the M2 is superb and I think i have spent about £1k which is due to the wife wanting heated seats, me getting old and wanting lumber and with my practical ikea head having folding rear seats
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: fredgroves on 25 January 2016, 15:24
When I looked at the M2 last week there didn't seem to be much you could spend money on if you tried...

Mind you, even with a handful of options, its expensive.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 25 January 2016, 16:03
they soon rack up when you start adding toys, ironically the standard spec on the M2 is superb and I think i have spent about £1k which is due to the wife wanting heated seats, me getting old and wanting lumber and with my practical ikea head having folding rear seats

Very jealous wigit. They look amazing.   
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 January 2016, 11:29
Latest minor but very practical mini mod -

Fitted the flexible boot liner today.  Genuine VW Mk7 hatch liner bought from eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221500646373?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Fits perfectly, really snug with no gaps at all - should catch the dirt and mud nicely.  It's extremely lightweight so will be easy to fold in on itself for removal to shake out all the dirt. Don't know why I didn't get one for my last car. :rolleyes:

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 11 February 2016, 23:20
Next mini mod.....

Not on yet but my loaner DTUK pedal box arrived today. Will have to wait a week to be fitted as I'm away for a week but looking forward to having a throttle pedal with a bit more zip!!
 
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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 12 February 2016, 05:48
At least you've got a nice shiny LED light to illuminate the footwell when you fit it - beware it showing up the scratches on your pedals though!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Bungleaio on 12 February 2016, 06:04
I thought the pedal box was only for manual cars?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: p3asa on 12 February 2016, 10:02
I thought the pedal box was only for manual cars?


I thought it was 50/50 whether it worked it not. Probably why Bec has it on loan.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 February 2016, 19:07
At least you've got a nice shiny LED light to illuminate the footwell when you fit it - beware it showing up the scratches on your pedals though!!  :laugh:

I knew there was a reason I fitted those blue footwell LED's, mind you the standar White one's would have served better as a torch.

I thought the pedal box was only for manual cars?

No it can be fitted to both.
I thought the pedal box was only for manual cars?

I thought it was 50/50 whether it worked it not. Probably why Bec has it on loan.

I posted a thread on the other forum asking for feedback from DSG owners and all bar 2 recommended it.  But you're right Stevie, seemed sensible to try before I buy.  So the offer of a loaner pedal box was gratefully accepted.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 18 February 2016, 18:09
No mini mods this time, but a great trip to Yorkshire this week.

A great chance to drive the R on some fantastic roads over the Moors and around the Dales.  Car is outstanding.  Supremely sure-footed around the twisties and solid as a rock all round on dry, wet and icy roads.  One day sitting comfortably in Drive going about hum-drum business on the motorway, and the next into manual Sport and thrilling my socks off on some deserted roads in the stunning landscape.

I already new it, but what a stellar performer the R is!

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JB GTI on 18 February 2016, 18:26
It's dirty !!!  :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: chris1h on 18 February 2016, 18:36
shame u didnt get some thick snow over the moores!! would have been a good site!

ps i agree with above comment  its dirty!! :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 18 February 2016, 18:44
It's dirty !!!  :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Is it?  I hadn't noticed.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 18 February 2016, 18:45
shame u didnt get some thick snow over the moores!! would have been a good site!

ps i agree with above comment  its dirty!! :grin:

No snow. Was really hoping for some but not to be this time.  Still had fun though!  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 18 February 2016, 23:32
I wonder how the R would cope with snow on summer tyres.
Hope I don't have to find out!

Great pics Ms B (as ever).

The car looks very businesslike with a layer of filth on it.
I bet I know what sort of treatment is waiting for that paintwork as soon as you get chance!
How many buckets?  :grin:

Glad you had a good trip, sounds like you enjoyed it all and I hope you didn't frighten your passenger(s) putting the R through its paces! 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: andykram on 18 February 2016, 23:44
Stunning car in a stunning location. I'm lucky enough to have those Dales on my doorstep - one of the great advantages of living in God's own county. Much as I loved driving my old Mk6 on those roads and will love them in the R, my biggest pleasure comes from covering them on my road bike. Cycling in the Dales is very special!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 18 February 2016, 23:46
I wonder how the R would cope with snow on summer tyres.
Hope I don't have to find out!

Great pics Ms B (as ever).

The car looks very businesslike with a layer of filth on it.
I bet I know what sort of treatment is waiting for that paintwork as soon as you get chance!
How many buckets?  :grin:

Glad you had a good trip, sounds like you enjoyed it all and I hope you didn't frighten your passenger(s) putting the R through its paces! 

I was really hoping to find out how the summer tyres would fare.  The one disappointment of the trip being the lack of snow!

It's beena great trip apart but I now need to persuade HWMBO that our next property investment purchase should ne a nice little cottage up this way..  I will start to sow that seed on my return.

My passengers loved it!  Especially my Dad, who doesn't often get the chance to be a passenger.  He spent an inordinate amount of time taking us on family drives when I was a kid, so my turn to return the favour!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 18 February 2016, 23:49
A bit under exposed dirty girl  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 18 February 2016, 23:59
Stunning car in a stunning location. I'm lucky enough to have those Dales on my doorstep - one of the great advantages of living in God's own county. Much as I loved driving my old Mk6 on those roads and will love them in the R, my biggest pleasure comes from covering them on my road bike. Cycling in the Dales is very special!

It certainly is stunning, you are very lucky to have it on your doorstep. :smiley:  I come from Brighouse/Rastrick area originally so had the great luck of growing up round these parts (until we moved to Lancs), and it will always hold a very special place in my heart.

Cycling is a given, lol. Grew up in cycling fraternity (used to time trial myself long ago).  My dad co-founded the Condor Road Club (based in the area) and is the only surviving founding member which depresses him no end, haha.

I lost count of how many cyclists I saw today.  Plenty going up Holme Moss.  Not for the faint-hearted cyclist!

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 19 February 2016, 00:05
posted in error!  Please delete.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 19 February 2016, 00:06
A bit under exposed dirty girl  :grin:

Haha!

The dark pics were taken at about 4pm under blackened skies on a crappy iphone ;-)  Brighter ones taken in the morning.  I like the dirt!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 February 2016, 15:38
The latest addition!

Fitted the pedal box today. My throttle pedal has been shaken from its lazy slumber.  What a transformation it is.!!!  It honestly feels like the car has awoken from a 5 month nap. Why is it not like this from the factory???   :angry: Tried a few settings and have settled on setting Sport +1 for now.

Anyway, armed with lots of fitting tips from fellow forum members and quite a few views of the DTUK fitting video https://youtu.be/EabRvM_-iIE the installation went smoothly, took about 15 mins. 
 
Having heard a few horror stories about the very tight tolerances of some of the connectors and the risk of the grey clip breaking rendering it unremovable, As a precaution I decided to do the install in a slightly different order to the official video just in case it all went pear-shaped then I wouldn’t be left with a half install and an immobilised car.  I took my time and it all went according to plan thankfully.

Here’s the obligatory installation pics - managed to take a few along the way

The kit
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Locate the trim plate - removing this makes it much easier to access the connectors.  One Torx screw to undo then just slide it backwards to remove.
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Locate the oem connector above the throttle pedal and push the red button inwards and upwards till it unlocks, then pull the whole black connector off.  The red button was very, very stiff and took a lot of perseverance but eventually released.
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Take the black pedal box connector (one without the grey button) and slide it into the oem red clip connector until it clicks. Some have had trouble with this being a very tight fit but I had no problem with it at all.  They key is to ensure you align the little notch on the back of the connector with the corresponding slot on the red button connector.  The other key is to make sure you slide it in perfectly straight and not at an angle, then it should slide in ok. 
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Once pushed in a far as it will go, push the red clip inwards and downwards until it locks down into place.  Again this was stiff and took a lot of  effort but the clip locked down eventually.  Check it is secure.
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Take the other remaining pedal box connector (the one with the grey button) and slide it over the port above the throttle pedal (the one from which originally housed the the red button connector).
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Push the connector down and click it into place and the grey button moves upwards and locks.  Check it is secure.
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Replace the flat trim piece by sliding it back into place and securing the Torx screw.
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I decided to keep the pedal box controller in the driver’s side cubby, so just half opened the cubby and fed the cable and controller over the gap at the back.
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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 21 February 2016, 16:02
Nice job Rebecca, should make a big difference to your R if the throttle lag is as big an issue as I've heard :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 21 February 2016, 16:11
Just got back from 'Dubfreeze' in Staffordshire.
Saw some great looking vans and a few lovely old Golf's and Corrado's.
Ugliest car I saw had to be the R estate in Lapiz blue that was parked on the mezzanine level. Seriously, what the hell have they done there? It's a minger from every angle and it didn't help that it was covered in swirl marks.
Each to their own I suppose but it is most definitely not for me :sick:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 21 February 2016, 17:06
Nice job Rebecca, should make a big difference to your R if the throttle lag is as big an issue as I've heard :smiley:

That is the main problem I have with the DSG box. Be interesting to see if it cuts out the pause between taking your foot off the brake and on the throttle which for me is made worse by me using my left foot for braking in an auto.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: davewilliams000 on 21 February 2016, 21:13
Latest minor but very practical mini mod -

Fitted the flexible boot liner today.  Genuine VW Mk7 hatch liner bought from eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221500646373?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Fits perfectly, really snug with no gaps at all - should catch the dirt and mud nicely.  It's extremely lightweight so will be easy to fold in on itself for removal to shake out all the dirt. Don't know why I didn't get one for my last car. :rolleyes:


I got one of these for my GTD ready for when I picked it up. Bought from dealer directly though as I was in a bit of a rush... had to take the dog to the vets the day after I got the car. I have another cover that goes over the top of it for when the dog goes in, and then I put his dog bed (single quilt + cover) on top of that... this has saved my boot floor from being covered in dog hair unlike my previous car. Is a very good fit but I feel a little overpriced for what it is, however its genuine VW so that's to be expected I guess!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 February 2016, 21:54
Nice job Rebecca, should make a big difference to your R if the throttle lag is as big an issue as I've heard :smiley:

I think it is quite a big issue, and never had such lag on any previous GTI, so it was a bit of a surprise.  I'm not one for making knee jerk reactions which is why I given it the standard setup the benefit of the doubt for the last few months, but it has steadily got on my nerves more and more.  Pedal box is such a simple but effective solution.  A massive improvement, makes a big difference to the throttle response and the whole car feels like it's been 'lifted', if you know what I mean. When I was taking it out on my test run today, I turned it off for a bit and it felt so laggy, I couldn't switch it back on quick enough!  Makes you realise just how much effort had to go into eliciting a decent response.

It suits my driving style, and feels so much more comfortable to me. And the range of customisation is a real bonus. I chose Sport as the main setting and tried it on the lowest -3 then moved up by an increment at a time until I hit what seems to be the sweet spot for me +1. Works well in Drive but really comes into it's own in Sport and with the paddles.  Such a small thing but with a big impact.  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 February 2016, 21:59
Just got back from 'Dubfreeze' in Staffordshire.
Saw some great looking vans and a few lovely old Golf's and Corrado's.
Ugliest car I saw had to be the R estate in Lapiz blue that was parked on the mezzanine level. Seriously, what the hell have they done there? It's a minger from every angle and it didn't help that it was covered in swirl marks.
Each to their own I suppose but it is most definitely not for me :sick:

Sounds like a good day out.  :smiley:

Well my feelings about the R Estate are quite well known on here. :wink: I can understand why it would be an attractive proposition for some but like you, definitely not for me either.  Practical it may be, but pretty it is not. The rear end is a mess, looks very odd.  And you may have heard that two of the quad tailpipes are fake and not hooked up to the exhaust system.  Makes no difference to the power output and guess it keeps the back consistent but still, bit of a sham. :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 February 2016, 22:05
Nice job Rebecca, should make a big difference to your R if the throttle lag is as big an issue as I've heard :smiley:

That is the main problem I have with the DSG box. Be interesting to see if it cuts out the pause between taking your foot off the brake and on the throttle which for me is made worse by me using my left foot for braking in an auto.

I don't really find an issue with the pause between coming off the brake and onto the throttle. I've been driving DSG Golfs for many years so am accustomed to it's little quirks and am pretty well practised at eliminating the pause as much as can be, but it will be interesting to see if there is much difference, particularly shifting from reverse to drive.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 February 2016, 22:07
Latest minor but very practical mini mod -

Fitted the flexible boot liner today.  Genuine VW Mk7 hatch liner bought from eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221500646373?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Fits perfectly, really snug with no gaps at all - should catch the dirt and mud nicely.  It's extremely lightweight so will be easy to fold in on itself for removal to shake out all the dirt. Don't know why I didn't get one for my last car. :rolleyes:


I got one of these for my GTD ready for when I picked it up. Bought from dealer directly though as I was in a bit of a rush... had to take the dog to the vets the day after I got the car. I have another cover that goes over the top of it for when the dog goes in, and then I put his dog bed (single quilt + cover) on top of that... this has saved my boot floor from being covered in dog hair unlike my previous car. Is a very good fit but I feel a little overpriced for what it is, however its genuine VW so that's to be expected I guess!

Yeah I'm really pleased with the boot liner.  Don't have any dogs but carry a fair bit of outdoor kit for work etc, in the boot and often visit muddy sites, so it's already proved its worth in the short time I'be had it.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 21 February 2016, 23:28
Good to see you've hooked up the PedalBox Fraulein B, in your typically through style too! Good work.
I knew you'd love it.
I couldn't wait five minutes to get mine fitted never mind five months!  :evil:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 21 February 2016, 23:33
Good to see you've hooked up the PedalBox Fraulein B, in your typically through style too! Good work.
I knew you'd love it.
I couldn't wait five minutes to get mine fitted never mind five months!  :evil:

Yeah well if I'd have known what a big difference it would make I wouldn't have waited 5 minutes either.  You live and learn.  :smiley:

Does make you wonder why the throttle response is so crap from the factory though. No excuse!  :angry:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 22 February 2016, 00:07
Well some of us have been busy telling everyone how good these things are for a long time just in case anyone was in any doubt!  :tongue:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 22 February 2016, 00:26
Well some of us have been busy telling everyone how good these things are for a long time just in case anyone was in any doubt!  :tongue:

That's very true and I have taken notice of you, and others,extolling the virtues of the PedalBox. Today's little addition to my car is testament to that :wink:

I never doubted your word, but as I never had any issues with poor throttle response on my other cars, I was a bit surprised to experience it to such an extent on the 7R (I never test drove one) and am not one for jumping the gun before I've even taken delivery of the car, so had to experience it for myself, to see if it was something I could or couldn't live with.  I know the answer to that now and so do you.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 22 February 2016, 07:17
Just got back from 'Dubfreeze' in Staffordshire.
Saw some great looking vans and a few lovely old Golf's and Corrado's.
Ugliest car I saw had to be the R estate in Lapiz blue that was parked on the mezzanine level. Seriously, what the hell have they done there? It's a minger from every angle and it didn't help that it was covered in swirl marks.
Each to their own I suppose but it is most definitely not for me :sick:

Sounds like a good day out.  :smiley:

Well my feelings about the R Estate are quite well known on here. :wink: I can understand why it would be an attractive proposition for some but like you, definitely not for me either.  Practical it may be, but pretty it is not. The rear end is a mess, looks very odd.  And you may have heard that two of the quad tailpipes are fake and not hooked up to the exhaust system.  Makes no difference to the power output and guess it keeps the back consistent but still, bit of a sham. :laugh:
Yes it was a good day out apart from the weather and the mud.
Two things really ruined it for me though..... a horrendous hangover which I take most of the blame for and that god awful R estate which is someone else's fault entirely!!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 22 February 2016, 08:19
you may have heard that two of the quad tailpipes are fake and not hooked up to the exhaust system.  Makes no difference to the power output and guess it keeps the back consistent but still, bit of a sham.

Is that so? I have thought that the .:R Estate would have looked better with twin tails like the GTD. Giving it a more understated Q car appeal.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 22 February 2016, 08:59
you may have heard that two of the quad tailpipes are fake and not hooked up to the exhaust system.  Makes no difference to the power output and guess it keeps the back consistent but still, bit of a sham.

Is that so? I have thought that the .:R Estate would have looked better with twin tails like the GTD. Giving it a more understated Q car appeal.

It would definitely be a Q car with 2 pipes, but it would be out of keeping with the R rear look.  And I think you might be in a minority thinking that.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 22 February 2016, 15:01
I just saw my first R estate today.
I had a bit of a nose at a black Lex Autolease GTD estate last week parked up in a car park and thought it looked OK in the flesh. R estate very stealthy.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 22 February 2016, 15:22
GTD Estate would suit you well Mr Ex
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 22 February 2016, 15:35
GTD Estate would suit you well Mr Ex
Nah, too big for me. My boot is fairly empty as it is!
Standard Golf hatch is as big a car as I'd want.
Smaller and lighter is more my thing.
Big torquey engine in as light a shell as possible.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 22 February 2016, 15:40
Polo GTI not your cup of tea ?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 22 February 2016, 15:46
I had a Polo G40 many many years ago which was great fun but getting a pushchair in the boot was a challenge!
I also had a Polo GTI 1.8T when they were released (or shortly afterwards as I bought one of the launch cars with a few thousand miles on the clock) which was huge fun once REVO'd but it gave me back ache.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 22 February 2016, 16:47
Polo GTI not your cup of tea ?

Having driven my GT which is pretty much the same set up beneath I decided not to got Polo GTI, unless 5 doors were a must it would be Fiesta ST all day long
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 23 February 2016, 16:13
Polo GTI not your cup of tea ?

Having driven my GT which is pretty much the same set up beneath I decided not to got Polo GTI, unless 5 doors were a must it would be Fiesta ST all day long

The Fiesta ST has to be up there with the best 'fun' cars you can buy for not too much money and still pretty practical, so long as you don't mind a hard ride (not that I've driven one but I'm going from first hand reports) and don't want a long term affair with it.

Anyway, back on topic:
Madamoiselle B, how's the R behaving now you're back doing the daily grind; does the PedalBox make it kick down more readily or is it just sat in the sweet spot of taking the slack out of the drive train without confuddling the DSG brain?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 February 2016, 21:25
Anyway, back on topic:
Madamoiselle B, how's the R behaving now you're back doing the daily grind; does the PedalBox make it kick down more readily or is it just sat in the sweet spot of taking the slack out of the drive train without confuddling the DSG brain?

Mr Ex, the difference is much greater than I expected (in a very good way). It does both - kicks down more eagerly, and, is in the sweet spot for daily commute in D.  Really is good in Drive - giving it a bit more zip (depending on which setting you choose) without it going being wild and unpredictable. I have found it very intuitive and matches my driving style perfectly.  It's made the car more fun, given it another dimension.  Dare I say a little dash of GTI but with the planted surefootedness of the R.  Maybe it's the placebo effect, lol, but the car feels a bit more 'chuckable'. Whatever it is it's made for better drive.

And in Sport?..............it really comes into it's own.  :evil: :evil: :evil:

In short.........I love it!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 23 February 2016, 22:38
Anyway, back on topic:
Madamoiselle B, how's the R behaving now you're back doing the daily grind; does the PedalBox make it kick down more readily or is it just sat in the sweet spot of taking the slack out of the drive train without confuddling the DSG brain?

Mr Ex, the difference is much greater than I expected (in a very good way). It does both - kicks down more eagerly, and, is in the sweet spot for daily commute in D.  Really is good in Drive - giving it a bit more zip (depending on which setting you choose) without it going being wild and unpredictable. I have found it very intuitive and matches my driving style perfectly.  It's made the car more fun, given it another dimension.  Dare I say a little dash of GTI but with the planted surefootedness of the R.  Maybe it's the placebo effect, lol, but the car feels a bit more 'chuckable'. Whatever it is it's made for better drive.

And in Sport?..............it really comes into it's own.  :evil: :evil: :evil:

In short.........I love it!

Sounds like it could even make me like a DSG......well maybe.

I'm not sure how easy you find left foot braking but could you try braking with your left foot down to about 5mph and then at the same time you are taking your foot off of the brake press the throttle and see if there is a delay? I don't mean to mash your foot on the throttle but maybe like you would if you were going around a roundabout.

If I thought that I could live with DSG I would order an R(estate, sorry) tomorrow.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 February 2016, 22:46
Anyway, back on topic:
Madamoiselle B, how's the R behaving now you're back doing the daily grind; does the PedalBox make it kick down more readily or is it just sat in the sweet spot of taking the slack out of the drive train without confuddling the DSG brain?

Mr Ex, the difference is much greater than I expected (in a very good way). It does both - kicks down more eagerly, and, is in the sweet spot for daily commute in D.  Really is good in Drive - giving it a bit more zip (depending on which setting you choose) without it going being wild and unpredictable. I have found it very intuitive and matches my driving style perfectly.  It's made the car more fun, given it another dimension.  Dare I say a little dash of GTI but with the planted surefootedness of the R.  Maybe it's the placebo effect, lol, but the car feels a bit more 'chuckable'. Whatever it is it's made for better drive.

And in Sport?..............it really comes into it's own.  :evil: :evil: :evil:

In short.........I love it!

Sounds like it could even make me like a DSG......well maybe.

I'm not sure how easy you find left foot braking but could you try braking with your left foot down to about 5mph and then at the same time you are taking your foot off of the brake press the throttle and see if there is a delay? I don't mean to mash your foot on the throttle but maybe like you would if you were going around a roundabout.

If I thought that I could live with DSG I would order an R(estate, sorry) tomorrow.

I will try the left foot braking tomorrow.  I don't usually brake with my left foot but have done it a few times in the past just to see.  It doesn't come naturally but I'll give it a go to see what (if any) the delay is like.  I'll try it on a fairly deserted road but there are plenty of bends and a mini roundabout so should be enough to test it out properly.  Will report back sometime tomorrow.  :smiley:

Just because I loath the estate doesn't mean you do.  :laugh:  Actually someone posted up a pic of a freshly detailed one on another forum today and.......I almost liked it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 23 February 2016, 23:09
Thanks, I have always found it natural for some reason even before my accident.

I love the estate R but only in certain colours, red is not one of them. My dealer had a red R estate in and I thought it looked wrong. White isn't great either.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 24 February 2016, 05:15
Anyway, back on topic:
Madamoiselle B, how's the R behaving now you're back doing the daily grind; does the PedalBox make it kick down more readily or is it just sat in the sweet spot of taking the slack out of the drive train without confuddling the DSG brain?

Mr Ex, the difference is much greater than I expected (in a very good way). It does both - kicks down more eagerly, and, is in the sweet spot for daily commute in D.  Really is good in Drive - giving it a bit more zip (depending on which setting you choose) without it going being wild and unpredictable. I have found it very intuitive and matches my driving style perfectly.  It's made the car more fun, given it another dimension.  Dare I say a little dash of GTI but with the planted surefootedness of the R.  Maybe it's the placebo effect, lol, but the car feels a bit more 'chuckable'. Whatever it is it's made for better drive.

And in Sport?..............it really comes into it's own.  :evil: :evil: :evil:

In short.........I love it!
Excellent news. Sounds like the car is nigh on perfect now.
I too could almost be tempted with a DSG if it drives that well now.

I know what you mean about it now feeling a bit 'GTI', the box makes the R feel more lithe and eager, more about fun and less just about subdued big numbers.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 24 February 2016, 20:31

I'm not sure how easy you find left foot braking but could you try braking with your left foot down to about 5mph and then at the same time you are taking your foot off of the brake press the throttle and see if there is a delay? I don't mean to mash your foot on the throttle but maybe like you would if you were going around a roundabout. 

I gave the left hand braking a go this morning.  After nearly going through the windscreen a couple of times, lol, I got used to it after a little while, though I won't be changing my normal right foot braking method any time soon.  :whistle:

I haven't compared it to a run using left foot braking with the PedalBox switched off (will do that tomorrow if time) so hard to compare but I think I'm sure when I say there is next to no pause between the left foot coming off the brake and the right foot pressing the throttle.  On the setting I'm currently using on the box which is Sport +1.  In some of the lower setting say Sport -1, -2 etc I think there would be a small pause, but +1 seems fine.  +2 might be too much I think for day to day driving - a bit too aggressive and hair trigger.

Anyway as said if I get time to compare the two back to back tomorrow (pedal box off and then on in +1 setting), I'll let you know just how much difference there is.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 24 February 2016, 21:47

I'm not sure how easy you find left foot braking but could you try braking with your left foot down to about 5mph and then at the same time you are taking your foot off of the brake press the throttle and see if there is a delay? I don't mean to mash your foot on the throttle but maybe like you would if you were going around a roundabout. 

I gave the left hand braking a go this morning.  After nearly going through the windscreen a couple of times, lol, I got used to it after a little while, though I won't be changing my normal right foot braking method any time soon.  :whistle:

I haven't compared it to a run using left foot braking with the PedalBox switched off (will do that tomorrow if time) so hard to compare but I think I'm sure when I say there is next to no pause between the left foot coming off the brake and the right foot pressing the throttle.  On the setting I'm currently using on the box which is Sport +1.  In some of the lower setting say Sport -1, -2 etc I think there would be a small pause, but +1 seems fine.  +2 might be too much I think for day to day driving - a bit too aggressive and hair trigger.

Anyway as said if I get time to compare the two back to back tomorrow (pedal box off and then on in +1 setting), I'll let you know just how much difference there is.  :smiley:

Thanks so much for that. I should have said to be carful about the oncoming windscreen when you try it first.

If you get a chance to try it with the pedal box turned off you will see why I hate the DSG box so much. It used to be okay years ago on auto cars but then they brought in fly by wire throttles.

I might have to look into this further, thanks again for going to the bother of trying it out for me.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 25 February 2016, 08:57
Does driving with the ESP off allow left foot braking?

The whole point of left foot braking is to be able to keep the throttle applied it readiness to exit a corner whilst still trail braking through it. ESP works by applying the brakes to keep the car between the hedges. When it applies the brakes, it closes the throttle, so the fact that you are on the brakes, it thinks you shouldn't have the throttle open.

Launch control allows the throttle to be open when the car is held on the brakes, That works with the ESP off, so it might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mjh_056 on 25 February 2016, 09:29
This is a thread been following as it gets increasingly closer to ordering my next ride and only thing am certain of is time is not a good thing when selecting next car as rock solid turns to doubt and back again week by week.

Was rock solid on the R, the fun factor mentioned in this thread making it nailed on.

But fuel consumption and realities of driving my GTD where even in that there is not as many times as would like to  test its limits reel me back in to maybe look at other options.

So have even considered just getting a new GTD, its that good! but as mileage is markedly reduced these days then it may as well be a GTI if staying with the MK 7 as you get the performance and decent economy.

Did want 4WD drive though, so really wish they made a GT -DR.

There are two other cars that considering so its a small list and that is an A3 Sportback Quattro or the new VW Tiguan

The VW Tiguan R Line is a real looker, is on the MQB frame and has the internals of the Golf and the LCD Display of the TT and with DSG 4WD and the same engine unit as the GTD it has decent performance.

Being selecting that pretty blind though, much as did for the GTD as not released for ordering till April so doubt be many about to see and test drive.

Also have been faithful hatchback driver for many years, its my size of car, so there is a feeling that getting the slippers out by looking at an SUV?! The young lad in me really wants the R for all the excited reasons that read through in this thread. Great posts to read, absolutely no help at all with dilemma  :smiley:

Have to have selection in by May to receive vehicle in time, so clock is ticking ...

GTI
R
A3 Sportback Quattro
Tiguan - R Line
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 25 February 2016, 11:09
Does driving with the ESP off allow left foot braking?

The whole point of left foot braking is to be able to keep the throttle applied it readiness to exit a corner whilst still trail braking through it. ESP works by applying the brakes to keep the car between the hedges. When it applies the brakes, it closes the throttle, so the fact that you are on the brakes, it thinks you shouldn't have the throttle open.

Launch control allows the throttle to be open when the car is held on the brakes, That works with the ESP off, so it might be worth a try.

Interesting thoughts. Something else to look into so that's for bringing it up. Things are starting to look a bit more promising for an R estate.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 25 February 2016, 11:13
This is a thread been following as it gets increasingly closer to ordering my next ride and only thing am certain of is time is not a good thing when selecting next car as rock solid turns to doubt and back again week by week.

Was rock solid on the R, the fun factor mentioned in this thread making it nailed on.

But fuel consumption and realities of driving my GTD where even in that there is not as many times as would like to  test its limits reel me back in to maybe look at other options.

So have even considered just getting a new GTD, its that good! but as mileage is markedly reduced these days then it may as well be a GTI if staying with the MK 7 as you get the performance and decent economy.

Did want 4WD drive though, so really wish they made a GT -DR.

There are two other cars that considering so its a small list and that is an A3 Sportback Quattro or the new VW Tiguan

The VW Tiguan R Line is a real looker, is on the MQB frame and has the internals of the Golf and the LCD Display of the TT and with DSG 4WD and the same engine unit as the GTD it has decent performance.

Being selecting that pretty blind though, much as did for the GTD as not released for ordering till April so doubt be many about to see and test drive.

Also have been faithful hatchback driver for many years, its my size of car, so there is a feeling that getting the slippers out by looking at an SUV?! The young lad in me really wants the R for all the excited reasons that read through in this thread. Great posts to read, absolutely no help at all with dilemma  :smiley:

Have to have selection in by May to receive vehicle in time, so clock is ticking ...

GTI
R
A3 Sportback Quattro
Tiguan - R Line

Another thing to consider is the the Tiguan is going to get the fabulous 2.0 twin turbo TDi that is in the new Passat. My wife drove one a few weeks ago and she said it was brilliant, she loved it.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 February 2016, 23:18
Does driving with the ESP off allow left foot braking?

The whole point of left foot braking is to be able to keep the throttle applied it readiness to exit a corner whilst still trail braking through it. ESP works by applying the brakes to keep the car between the hedges. When it applies the brakes, it closes the throttle, so the fact that you are on the brakes, it thinks you shouldn't have the throttle open.

Launch control allows the throttle to be open when the car is held on the brakes, That works with the ESP off, so it might be worth a try.

Don't know.  Haven't tried driving with the ESP off (in the R) and using left foot braking.  But it seems logical that it might improve the delay in a standard car, as it allows for the throttle to remain open whilst still on the brake.

With ESP on, you have to be just off the brake before pressing down with your right foot on the throttle, some of that delay is removed with a pedal box, just as it is when braking with the right foot, but that's because the dead inch of pedal travel is removed anyway.  And with left foot braking some of it will be down to natural reaction times.

@ Mk7-GTD. I didn't get a chance to try the left foot braking with the pedal box switched off today as got stuck in the office all day in meetings but will try it when time permits. 

You could always take am R Estate DSG for a test drive and try it with the ESP off and see what the delay is like.  Might negate the need for a pedalbox.  But would you really want ESP off all the time?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 February 2016, 23:33
This is a thread been following as it gets increasingly closer to ordering my next ride and only thing am certain of is time is not a good thing when selecting next car as rock solid turns to doubt and back again week by week.

Was rock solid on the R, the fun factor mentioned in this thread making it nailed on.

But fuel consumption and realities of driving my GTD where even in that there is not as many times as would like to  test its limits reel me back in to maybe look at other options.

So have even considered just getting a new GTD, its that good! but as mileage is markedly reduced these days then it may as well be a GTI if staying with the MK 7 as you get the performance and decent economy.

Did want 4WD drive though, so really wish they made a GT -DR.

There are two other cars that considering so its a small list and that is an A3 Sportback Quattro or the new VW Tiguan

The VW Tiguan R Line is a real looker, is on the MQB frame and has the internals of the Golf and the LCD Display of the TT and with DSG 4WD and the same engine unit as the GTD it has decent performance.

Being selecting that pretty blind though, much as did for the GTD as not released for ordering till April so doubt be many about to see and test drive.

Also have been faithful hatchback driver for many years, its my size of car, so there is a feeling that getting the slippers out by looking at an SUV?! The young lad in me really wants the R for all the excited reasons that read through in this thread. Great posts to read, absolutely no help at all with dilemma  :smiley:

Have to have selection in by May to receive vehicle in time, so clock is ticking ...

GTI
R
A3 Sportback Quattro
Tiguan - R Line

Sorry the thread is not helping with your dilemma. :sad:  If it's any consolation you are not alone in the doubts creeping in as time goes by, that's natural and can continue right up to delivery after you've ordered a car, lol.

It's a tough one.  I guess a test drive in all your shortlisted cars is a must.  The R is a brilliant car, made better with a pedalbox, for me (like you a hatchback faithful) it is the consummate performer across the board but with the added, well....performance.  But there's no getting away from the fuel consumption - it's a thirsty car, but that said my average mpg in a Mk6 GTI was on the lower side, combination of driving style and living in a woefully congested city.  So it's not as bad for some as for others but it is not going to come close to a GTD.  Monkeyhanger came from a GTD to an R though and seems quite content.

So perhaps the GTI PP might be a good shout for you.  Still bags of fun, ton of heritage, all the practical  attributes of he R but a better return on fuel, but of course lacking the 4WD.   Of the others on your list I like the A3 Sportback.  The Tiguan?  Not my cup of tea at all.  Not much bigger than a Golf inside, I find them quite pointless but then I'm afraid I am firmly rooted in performance hatch territory.  But it might suit you, need to try and find one to test drive.

The thing with the R though is it satisfies the "young lad" part of you but also satisfies the grown up part of you.  I'm not sure there are actually that many cars out there that a) do that, and b ) do it with such finesse.

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 February 2016, 07:40
Mpg isnt a massive loss on the R right now, i'm doing 32mpg (nice open uncongested roads and a momentum preservation driving style with later braking all help, as does a manual box). In the middle of winter I was lucky to get 44mpg on the commute and fuel is very low in price right now. If we were back up to £1.40 a litre I might be regreting it right now, but GTD mpg only really gets good on longer journeys and in the Summer. If mpg considerations took me away from the R, i'd rather have a GTD with DTUK box than a GTI.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 26 February 2016, 10:39
@ Mk7-GTD. I didn't get a chance to try the left foot braking with the pedal box switched off today as got stuck in the office all day in meetings but will try it when time permits. 

You could always take am R Estate DSG for a test drive and try it with the ESP off and see what the delay is like.  Might negate the need for a pedalbox.  But would you really want ESP off all the time?

No problem, thanks for doing what you have done already. I think what I might do is get a pedal box and try it on a DSG R or even my wife's GTi if the Mk6 and Mk7 have the same box.

My wife has been nagging(wanting) me to change the order for the GTD estate to a 3 door GTD and get either a Passat R line twin turbo TDi or an R estate and then get the Clubsport and share all the cars but keep the Clubsport for weekend fun so it keeps the mileage low. Her reasoning is that the Clubsport will hold its value really well.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 26 February 2016, 12:30
@ Mk7-GTD. I didn't get a chance to try the left foot braking with the pedal box switched off today as got stuck in the office all day in meetings but will try it when time permits. 

You could always take am R Estate DSG for a test drive and try it with the ESP off and see what the delay is like.  Might negate the need for a pedalbox.  But would you really want ESP off all the time?

No problem, thanks for doing what you have done already. I think what I might do is get a pedal box and try it on a DSG R or even my wife's GTi if the Mk6 and Mk7 have the same box.

My wife has been nagging(wanting) me to change the order for the GTD estate to a 3 door GTD and get either a Passat R line twin turbo TDi or an R estate and then get the Clubsport and share all the cars but keep the Clubsport for weekend fun so it keeps the mileage low. Her reasoning is that the Clubsport will hold its value really well.
Do you want an estate for a particular reason or do you just prefer the look of them ( each to their own) ?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: phazer on 26 February 2016, 12:43
Another thing to consider is the the Tiguan is going to get the fabulous 2.0 twin turbo TDi that is in the new Passat. My wife drove one a few weeks ago and she said it was brilliant, she loved it.

I think you'd be well advised to drive a bi-turbo before deciding. I have the 180 bi Turbo in my T5.1 and it drives great such a tractable/useable engine  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 26 February 2016, 17:46
@ Mk7-GTD. I didn't get a chance to try the left foot braking with the pedal box switched off today as got stuck in the office all day in meetings but will try it when time permits. 

You could always take am R Estate DSG for a test drive and try it with the ESP off and see what the delay is like.  Might negate the need for a pedalbox.  But would you really want ESP off all the time?

No problem, thanks for doing what you have done already. I think what I might do is get a pedal box and try it on a DSG R or even my wife's GTi if the Mk6 and Mk7 have the same box.

My wife has been nagging(wanting) me to change the order for the GTD estate to a 3 door GTD and get either a Passat R line twin turbo TDi or an R estate and then get the Clubsport and share all the cars but keep the Clubsport for weekend fun so it keeps the mileage low. Her reasoning is that the Clubsport will hold its value really well.
Do you want an estate for a particular reason or do you just prefer the look of them ( each to their own) ?

Yes I need an estate quite a bit but I also like estate cars. In my Volvo years I had an 850T5-R estate and 3 V70 R's
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 26 February 2016, 19:03
I love Audi estate cars and the odd Volvo but the Golf just doesn't look right for me :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 26 February 2016, 21:20
I love Audi estate cars and the odd Volvo but the Golf just doesn't look right for me :smiley:

Well myself and the wife came to a solution, I cancelled the GTD estate order and ordered a 5 door GTD(she wanted a 3 door) and we are going to get either an R estate or a 240ps Passat estate.

Yes I know a lot of people don't like the Golf estate but I do like the shape, I don't like the lack of LED rear lights though.


BTW only on the forum now as the Wales vs France game is so boring. Roll on Ireland vs England tomorrow.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 27 February 2016, 05:34
The Passat bi-TDI would be a weapon once tuned. You'd need a 2000 litre bovine piss tank to go with your Diesel tank though!
Pointless having a Clubsport AND an R and even if the CS depreciated more slowly it'd have zero depreciation if you didn't have it at all! Unless it's replacing yet another family vehicle?
I ran three cars briefly, finding time to clean all three was impossible so I sold one.

A bi-TDI, CS & GTD would be an awesome fleet (despite a lot of overlaps).
An R variant, GTD & CS would just be too many overlaps I'd have thought?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 27 February 2016, 08:44
The Passat bi-TDI would be a weapon once tuned. You'd need a 2000 litre bovine piss tank to go with your Diesel tank though!
Pointless having a Clubsport AND an R and even if the CS depreciated more slowly it'd have zero depreciation if you didn't have it at all! Unless it's replacing yet another family vehicle?
I ran three cars briefly, finding time to clean all three was impossible so I sold one.

A bi-TDI, CS & GTD would be an awesome fleet (despite a lot of overlaps).
An R variant, GTD & CS would just be too many overlaps I'd have thought?

Without taking over Booth's thread it will most likely be a Passat estate and the GTD hatch and then depending on what spec we get over here, the Clubsport. When my wife drove the Passat she absolutely loved it over the 100 miles or thereabouts she did in it. As both the Passat and the R estate are DSG if it was up to me I would pick the R, the Passat is over 40k with nice spec but that is without discounts.

We are not even sure yet if we are going to get the Clubsport. Also the reason we need an estate is because we travel a lot to both Ireland and Italy which wasn't a problem in her GTi or my CC because we only had our cat but now we have a dog as well so space is needed.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 27 February 2016, 12:32
Buying a new Passat makes no sense at all due the the initial depreciation, whatever the model.

I've bought my last 2 at around a year old. My current 2.0TDI DSG Sport had a list price of £27,500 and I paid just under £17,000. That was 3 years ago, but the rate of depreciation is still the same today.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 27 February 2016, 18:13
 
The Passat bi-TDI would be a weapon once tuned. You'd need a 2000 litre bovine piss tank to go with your Diesel tank though!
Pointless having a Clubsport AND an R and even if the CS depreciated more slowly it'd have zero depreciation if you didn't have it at all! Unless it's replacing yet another family vehicle?
I ran three cars briefly, finding time to clean all three was impossible so I sold one.

A bi-TDI, CS & GTD would be an awesome fleet (despite a lot of overlaps).
An R variant, GTD & CS would just be too many overlaps I'd have thought?

Without taking over Booth's thread it will most likely be a Passat estate and the GTD hatch and then depending on what spec we get over here, the Clubsport. When my wife drove the Passat she absolutely loved it over the 100 miles or thereabouts she did in it. As both the Passat and the R estate are DSG if it was up to me I would pick the R, the Passat is over 40k with nice spec but that is without discounts.

We are not even sure yet if we are going to get the Clubsport. Also the reason we need an estate is because we travel a lot to both Ireland and Italy which wasn't a problem in her GTi or my CC because we only had our cat but now we have a dog as well so space is needed.

Wouldn't an R Estate and a GTD hatch meet all your needs?   What's the role of the Clubsport?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 27 February 2016, 22:51
That's basically what I was trying to say!


How's the Pedalbox now Ms B, are you still happy with the same setting?
Do you find you leave it in D more now or do you still prefer to use the paddles quite a bit?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 28 February 2016, 00:05
That's basically what I was trying to say!

How's the Pedalbox now Ms B, are you still happy with the same setting?
Do you find you leave it in D more now or do you still prefer to use the paddles quite a bit?

I know, I just said it in fewer words, lol.

PedalBox is my new best friend.  Actually if anything I use Sport and S-manual (paddles) more because it's there that the PedalBox excels for me. Drive is massively improved, but it makes Sport really exhilarating and well.......it's a bit addictive.  Won't help with the fuel consumption though although that's improved since my northern road trip and average long term is now just under 27mpg.  Got 33mpg on the trip home which helped.  It will of course start to decline now I'm back in traffic hell city.

The box setting I'm on (Sport +1) is perfect for DSG in Sport, but I'm half tempted to go +2 for Drive. I don't think I'd go as far as Sport+ setting, maybe just too much. And I was warned off using the Sport+ setting in + by the loaner, as the guy that loaned the box before me did that and it caused the throttle safety to kick in! 

All in all very happy indeed.  :smiley:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 28 February 2016, 00:20
Got my new Lockwood R sill plates. They come as an 8 piece set with both upper and lower plates but I only needed the uppers as already got the lowers on as part of my original plain set (lowers don't have the R logo).

Just got to remove the plain uppers now and replace with these. That's going to be a job and half.  They've been stuck down for 3 months, hoping I can get them to relinquish their grip with a combination of heating (hairdryer) and some dental floss.

As yet they only do them for the 5dr but have been asking to the company recently and they said they will endeavour to get 3dr ones into production. 

http://www.lockwoodinternational.co.uk/sill-protectors/volkswagen/golf/mk7/r.html

New R logo ones.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1551/25225852421_1661c30c77_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Er8652)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1637/25023353720_0474f4a19e_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E8eeg7)


Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 28 February 2016, 13:57
The Passat bi-TDI would be a weapon once tuned. You'd need a 2000 litre bovine piss tank to go with your Diesel tank though!
Pointless having a Clubsport AND an R and even if the CS depreciated more slowly it'd have zero depreciation if you didn't have it at all! Unless it's replacing yet another family vehicle?
I ran three cars briefly, finding time to clean all three was impossible so I sold one.

A bi-TDI, CS & GTD would be an awesome fleet (despite a lot of overlaps).
An R variant, GTD & CS would just be too many overlaps I'd have thought?

Without taking over Booth's thread it will most likely be a Passat estate and the GTD hatch and then depending on what spec we get over here, the Clubsport. When my wife drove the Passat she absolutely loved it over the 100 miles or thereabouts she did in it. As both the Passat and the R estate are DSG if it was up to me I would pick the R, the Passat is over 40k with nice spec but that is without discounts.

We are not even sure yet if we are going to get the Clubsport. Also the reason we need an estate is because we travel a lot to both Ireland and Italy which wasn't a problem in her GTi or my CC because we only had our cat but now we have a dog as well so space is needed.

Wouldn't an R Estate and a GTD hatch meet all your needs?   What's the role of the Clubsport?

Yes it would, now can you tell my wife that. The Clubsport is something we would both like as it will be pretty rare to see them on the roads. The main reason my wife would prefer the Passat estate is because of the newer tech in the car.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 28 February 2016, 14:50
The Passat bi-TDI would be a weapon once tuned. You'd need a 2000 litre bovine piss tank to go with your Diesel tank though!
Pointless having a Clubsport AND an R and even if the CS depreciated more slowly it'd have zero depreciation if you didn't have it at all! Unless it's replacing yet another family vehicle?
I ran three cars briefly, finding time to clean all three was impossible so I sold one.

A bi-TDI, CS & GTD would be an awesome fleet (despite a lot of overlaps).
An R variant, GTD & CS would just be too many overlaps I'd have thought?

Without taking over Booth's thread it will most likely be a Passat estate and the GTD hatch and then depending on what spec we get over here, the Clubsport. When my wife drove the Passat she absolutely loved it over the 100 miles or thereabouts she did in it. As both the Passat and the R estate are DSG if it was up to me I would pick the R, the Passat is over 40k with nice spec but that is without discounts.

We are not even sure yet if we are going to get the Clubsport. Also the reason we need an estate is because we travel a lot to both Ireland and Italy which wasn't a problem in her GTi or my CC because we only had our cat but now we have a dog as well so space is needed.

Wouldn't an R Estate and a GTD hatch meet all your needs?   What's the role of the Clubsport?

Yes it would, now can you tell my wife that. The Clubsport is something we would both like as it will be pretty rare to see them on the roads. The main reason my wife would prefer the Passat estate is because of the newer tech in the car.

Bring her on here and we'll tell her. :grin: I know where you are coming from on the rarity point.  :smiley:

I think the Passat Estate looks better than the R Estate, with or without newer tech.

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 28 February 2016, 16:31
The Passat bi-TDI would be a weapon once tuned. You'd need a 2000 litre bovine piss tank to go with your Diesel tank though!
Pointless having a Clubsport AND an R and even if the CS depreciated more slowly it'd have zero depreciation if you didn't have it at all! Unless it's replacing yet another family vehicle?
I ran three cars briefly, finding time to clean all three was impossible so I sold one.

A bi-TDI, CS & GTD would be an awesome fleet (despite a lot of overlaps).
An R variant, GTD & CS would just be too many overlaps I'd have thought?

Without taking over Booth's thread it will most likely be a Passat estate and the GTD hatch and then depending on what spec we get over here, the Clubsport. When my wife drove the Passat she absolutely loved it over the 100 miles or thereabouts she did in it. As both the Passat and the R estate are DSG if it was up to me I would pick the R, the Passat is over 40k with nice spec but that is without discounts.

We are not even sure yet if we are going to get the Clubsport. Also the reason we need an estate is because we travel a lot to both Ireland and Italy which wasn't a problem in her GTi or my CC because we only had our cat but now we have a dog as well so space is needed.

Wouldn't an R Estate and a GTD hatch meet all your needs?   What's the role of the Clubsport?

Yes it would, now can you tell my wife that. The Clubsport is something we would both like as it will be pretty rare to see them on the roads. The main reason my wife would prefer the Passat estate is because of the newer tech in the car.

Bring her on here and we'll tell her. :grin: I know where you are coming from on the rarity point.  :smiley:

I think the Passat Estate looks better than the R Estate, with or without newer tech.

Now let's not go there again about the looks of the R estate :wink: I may have to act like a child again and throw my toys out.

The reason I got the CC was because they are fairly rare, then it seemed everyone got one. At least with the low volumes the Clubsport is going to be made in it will always be rare. Plus it looks like it is going to be a cracking car.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 28 February 2016, 16:54
The Passat looks much better in estate form than saloon.
The Golf most definitly does not :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 28 February 2016, 18:14
Bring her on here and we'll tell her. :grin: I know where you are coming from on the rarity point.  :smiley:

I think the Passat Estate looks better than the R Estate, with or without newer tech.

Now let's not go there again about the looks of the R estate :wink: I may have to act like a child again and throw my toys out.

The reason I got the CC was because they are fairly rare, then it seemed everyone got one. At least with the low volumes the Clubsport is going to be made in it will always be rare. Plus it looks like it is going to be a cracking car.

Lol.  Keep the toys inthe pramthis time.  I'm really not having a go at the R Estate, I genuinely think the Passat is a better looking estate car, but I'm not in the market for an estate so doesn't matter what I think of it. 

Clubsport will be pretty special.  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: p3asa on 28 February 2016, 18:33
Now let's not go there again about the looks of the R estate :wink: I may have to act like a child again and throw my toys out.

The reason I got the CC was because they are fairly rare, then it seemed everyone got one. At least with the low volumes the Clubsport is going to be made in it will always be rare. Plus it looks like it is going to be a cracking car.


LoL I remember your last spat.  :whistle:

I quite like the look of the R estate but agree the Passat carries it off better however it is massive compared to the Golf. So if its a medium sized estate the R is perfect. Plus the fact it has a dummy exhaust pipe compared to the hatch is surely more of a blow for the hatch rather than the estate if the power is the same on both them?!

It does look like though you are buying cars for the rarity value more than you wanting them. I'd happily buy a mass produced car as long as it fulfilled my needs. Oh wait I do I drive a Golf  :laugh:
Seriously though did VW not say only so many R32's would be produced and then move the goalposts? I might have got my versions mixed up but they did this with one of their "limited editions".
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 28 February 2016, 21:24
That was the Ed30 Steve.

The R estate might be a bit wrong in the mere fact it exists (although VW group like their fast estates) and the Passat bi-turbo has a beast of an engine but - Jeez is the new Passat frigging ugly from the front.
At least the CC is pretty (and hardly a common car).
Mind you the GTI CS hardly looks pretty. Business like is the most polite comment I can muster (dogs dinner front bumper?). And that pains me as this is the car I *wanted* to love.

And back on topic...

... Err, ummm, lovely weather we're having...
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 09 March 2016, 14:53
Having been behind three R's this week :whistle: I've had a re-think in regards to my rather indifferent views in the past.
I now know that it's not the R that I'm not keen on, it's Lapiz blue :shocked:
The three R's I saw were white, red and black and they all looked great to me.
I know plenty of people love Lapiz but I think I just hate blue cars.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 09 March 2016, 15:08
Having been behind three R's this week :whistle: I've had a re-think in regards to my rather indifferent views in the past.
I now know that it's not the R that I'm not keen on, it's Lapiz blue :shocked:
The three R's I saw were white, red and black and they all looked great to me.
I know plenty of people love Lapiz but I think I just hate blue cars.
I love blue cars normally but the first R I ever went and looked at was a badly presented Lapiz on a cold and wet January day.
It really didn't do it for me at all. In fact the looks and the drive did nothing for me having just jumped out of a sexy white GTI with a few enhancements.
The next but one Lapiz blue car I saw was a few months later in bright sunlight and was immaculately clean. It looked amazing.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 March 2016, 15:12
Having been behind three R's this week :whistle: I've had a re-think in regards to my rather indifferent views in the past.
I now know that it's not the R that I'm not keen on, it's Lapiz blue :shocked:
The three R's I saw were white, red and black and they all looked great to me.
I know plenty of people love Lapiz but I think I just hate blue cars.


I know exactly what you mean.  I've never been a blue car person but despite that I did have Lapiz as my second choice.  I love the R in Tornado Red (unlike the Mk6 R which really didn't suit red), but again am not a red car person either, lol.  I do think the Limestone Grey looks very good on the R in the flesh, a head turner.  Course Carbon Grey would have been my second choice (maybe the first) but not an option.  :cry:  All things considered I like the DBP.  Reflex Silver is also a great colour for the R.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 March 2016, 15:19
I'm not keen on the R in red at all, and that's from someone who really liked the look of their TR GTD.

I'm not keen on the non performance Golfs on TR either. It had to be Lapiz or DBP for me, but I do like Blue cars after previously having a Rising Blue Scirocco and a string of DBP VWs.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 09 March 2016, 15:24
Having been behind three R's this week :whistle: I've had a re-think in regards to my rather indifferent views in the past.
I now know that it's not the R that I'm not keen on, it's Lapiz blue :shocked:
The three R's I saw were white, red and black and they all looked great to me.
I know plenty of people love Lapiz but I think I just hate blue cars.


I know exactly what you mean.  I've never been a blue car person but despite that I did have Lapiz as my second choice.  I love the R in Tornado Red (unlike the Mk6 R which really didn't suit red), but again am not a red car person either, lol.  I do think the Limestone Grey looks very good on the R in the flesh, a head turner.  Course Carbon Grey would have been my second choice (maybe the first) but not an option.  :cry:  All things considered I like the DBP.  Reflex Silver is also a great colour for the R.
Is tungsten not an option on the R ?
If not, VW have certainly sold the car short as far as colour choice goes.
Off topic but I need to get it off my chest....one of my customers has just bought a new RS3 and it is seriously hideous!!
It is a sh!tty looking orange colour with dark tinted glass and alloy wheels that protrude about 10mm from the tyre.
It also has the completely pointless aluminium look mirrors that clash with everything.
Just thought I'd mention it :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 09 March 2016, 15:29
I'm not keen on the R in red at all, and that's from someone who really liked the look of their TR GTD.

I'm not keen on the non performance Golfs on TR either. It had to be Lapiz or DBP for me, but I do like Blue cars after previously having a Rising Blue Scirocco and a string of DBP VWs.
Colour choice is the single most subjective thing on a car, period.
I think Lapiz being exclusive to the R makes it more prevalent and a lot of people do love blue :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 09 March 2016, 15:56
Having been behind three R's this week :whistle: I've had a re-think in regards to my rather indifferent views in the past.
I now know that it's not the R that I'm not keen on, it's Lapiz blue :shocked:
The three R's I saw were white, red and black and they all looked great to me.
I know plenty of people love Lapiz but I think I just hate blue cars.


I know exactly what you mean.  I've never been a blue car person but despite that I did have Lapiz as my second choice.  I love the R in Tornado Red (unlike the Mk6 R which really didn't suit red), but again am not a red car person either, lol.  I do think the Limestone Grey looks very good on the R in the flesh, a head turner.  Course Carbon Grey would have been my second choice (maybe the first) but not an option.  :cry:  All things considered I like the DBP.  Reflex Silver is also a great colour for the R.
Is tungsten not an option on the R ?
If not, VW have certainly sold the car short as far as colour choice goes.
Off topic but I need to get it off my chest....one of my customers has just bought a new RS3 and it is seriously hideous!!
It is a sh!tty looking orange colour with dark tinted glass and alloy wheels that protrude about 10mm from the tyre.
It also has the completely pointless aluminium look mirrors that clash with everything.
Just thought I'd mention it :smiley:
Money and taste don't often go hand in hand.
He probably paid a lot extra for Ford Focus Orange too...
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 March 2016, 15:57
I know exactly what you mean.  I've never been a blue car person but despite that I did have Lapiz as my second choice.  I love the R in Tornado Red (unlike the Mk6 R which really didn't suit red), but again am not a red car person either, lol.  I do think the Limestone Grey looks very good on the R in the flesh, a head turner.  Course Carbon Grey would have been my second choice (maybe the first) but not an option.  :cry:  All things considered I like the DBP.  Reflex Silver is also a great colour for the R.
Is tungsten not an option on the R ?
If not, VW have certainly sold the car short as far as colour choice goes.
Off topic but I need to get it off my chest....one of my customers has just bought a new RS3 and it is seriously hideous!!
It is a sh!tty looking orange colour with dark tinted glass and alloy wheels that protrude about 10mm from the tyre.
It also has the completely pointless aluminium look mirrors that clash with everything.
Just thought I'd mention it :smiley:

No, Tungsten is not an R option.  Can never decide if I like that colour anyway.

So you like the RS3 then?  :grin:  Last time I had a look at them wasn't enamoured with the looks at all.   Thanks for mentioning it, makes me like the R even more.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 March 2016, 15:58
Is tungsten not an option on the R ?
If not, VW have certainly sold the car short as far as colour choice goes.
Off topic but I need to get it off my chest....one of my customers has just bought a new RS3 and it is seriously hideous!!
It is a sh!tty looking orange colour with dark tinted glass and alloy wheels that protrude about 10mm from the tyre.
It also has the completely pointless aluminium look mirrors that clash with everything.
Just thought I'd mention it :smiley:

Money and taste don't often go hand in hand.
He probably paid a lot extra for Ford Focus Orange too...

Oi, I like the Focus ST orange.  :tongue:  I still have taste though. :wink:  :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 09 March 2016, 16:16
Is tungsten not an option on the R ?
If not, VW have certainly sold the car short as far as colour choice goes.
Off topic but I need to get it off my chest....one of my customers has just bought a new RS3 and it is seriously hideous!!
It is a sh!tty looking orange colour with dark tinted glass and alloy wheels that protrude about 10mm from the tyre.
It also has the completely pointless aluminium look mirrors that clash with everything.
Just thought I'd mention it :smiley:

Money and taste don't often go hand in hand.
He probably paid a lot extra for Ford Focus Orange too...

Oi, I like the Focus ST orange.  :tongue:  I still have taste though. :wink:  :whistle:
I like it on a Focus.
But would I buy one?

I quite like the look of the RS3 too, and I love the idea of a 5 pot.
But would I buy one?

I seem to be stuck with boring Golfs!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 09 March 2016, 16:35
My wife's A3 S line in Missano Red looks stunning, far better looking than the RS3.
I didn't tell my customer that though  :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 March 2016, 20:23

No, Tungsten is not an R option.  Can never decide if I like that colour anyway.


I only like Tungsten when the lighting makes it not look like Tungsten - those occasions when it looks the colour of Mercury (a dark silvery grey), when it looks like metallic greige it's a definite no.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 March 2016, 20:30

No, Tungsten is not an R option.  Can never decide if I like that colour anyway.


I only like Tungsten when the lighting makes it not look like Tungsten - those occasions when it looks the colour of Mercury (a dark silvery grey), when it looks like metallic greige it's a definite no.

Yeah I'd agree with that, Tungsten at it's best when mercurial in colour.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 09 March 2016, 20:53
Having been behind three R's this week :whistle: I've had a re-think in regards to my rather indifferent views in the past.
I now know that it's not the R that I'm not keen on, it's Lapiz blue :shocked:
The three R's I saw were white, red and black and they all looked great to me.
I know plenty of people love Lapiz but I think I just hate blue cars.


I know exactly what you mean.  I've never been a blue car person but despite that I did have Lapiz as my second choice.  I love the R in Tornado Red (unlike the Mk6 R which really didn't suit red), but again am not a red car person either, lol.  I do think the Limestone Grey looks very good on the R in the flesh, a head turner.  Course Carbon Grey would have been my second choice (maybe the first) but not an option.  :cry:  All things considered I like the DBP.  Reflex Silver is also a great colour for the R.
Is tungsten not an option on the R ?
If not, VW have certainly sold the car short as far as colour choice goes.
Off topic but I need to get it off my chest....one of my customers has just bought a new RS3 and it is seriously hideous!!
It is a sh!tty looking orange colour with dark tinted glass and alloy wheels that protrude about 10mm from the tyre.
It also has the completely pointless aluminium look mirrors that clash with everything.
Just thought I'd mention it :smiley:

There's no accounting for taste with some folk but I'd take an RS3 over an R any day of the week
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 09 March 2016, 22:06
Having been behind three R's this week :whistle: I've had a re-think in regards to my rather indifferent views in the past.
I now know that it's not the R that I'm not keen on, it's Lapiz blue :shocked:
The three R's I saw were white, red and black and they all looked great to me.
I know plenty of people love Lapiz but I think I just hate blue cars.


I know exactly what you mean.  I've never been a blue car person but despite that I did have Lapiz as my second choice.  I love the R in Tornado Red (unlike the Mk6 R which really didn't suit red), but again am not a red car person either, lol.  I do think the Limestone Grey looks very good on the R in the flesh, a head turner.  Course Carbon Grey would have been my second choice (maybe the first) but not an option.  :cry:  All things considered I like the DBP.  Reflex Silver is also a great colour for the R.
Is tungsten not an option on the R ?
If not, VW have certainly sold the car short as far as colour choice goes.
Off topic but I need to get it off my chest....one of my customers has just bought a new RS3 and it is seriously hideous!!
It is a sh!tty looking orange colour with dark tinted glass and alloy wheels that protrude about 10mm from the tyre.
It also has the completely pointless aluminium look mirrors that clash with everything.
Just thought I'd mention it :smiley:

There's no accounting for taste with some folk but I'd take an RS3 over an R any day of the week
You certainly wouldn't be buying it for it's looks that's for sure :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 09 March 2016, 22:37
Having been behind three R's this week :whistle: I've had a re-think in regards to my rather indifferent views in the past.
I now know that it's not the R that I'm not keen on, it's Lapiz blue :shocked:
The three R's I saw were white, red and black and they all looked great to me.
I know plenty of people love Lapiz but I think I just hate blue cars.


I know exactly what you mean.  I've never been a blue car person but despite that I did have Lapiz as my second choice.  I love the R in Tornado Red (unlike the Mk6 R which really didn't suit red), but again am not a red car person either, lol.  I do think the Limestone Grey looks very good on the R in the flesh, a head turner.  Course Carbon Grey would have been my second choice (maybe the first) but not an option.  :cry:  All things considered I like the DBP.  Reflex Silver is also a great colour for the R.
Is tungsten not an option on the R ?
If not, VW have certainly sold the car short as far as colour choice goes.
Off topic but I need to get it off my chest....one of my customers has just bought a new RS3 and it is seriously hideous!!
It is a sh!tty looking orange colour with dark tinted glass and alloy wheels that protrude about 10mm from the tyre.
It also has the completely pointless aluminium look mirrors that clash with everything.
Just thought I'd mention it :smiley:

There's no accounting for taste with some folk but I'd take an RS3 over an R any day of the week
You certainly wouldn't be buying it for it's looks that's for sure :whistle:

The R is not much to write home about in the looks department, some may say that it's understated looks are its strength, i just think it looks boring as hell apart from the quad exhausts
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 March 2016, 23:19
some may say that it's understated looks are its strength

It's understated looks are its strength.

The front actually looks much more aggressive the flesh than in photos. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 10 March 2016, 13:28
Just come back from the dealers and they had a gorgeous LSG R in the showroom.
Probably due to it being under the perfect lighting but it was seriously stunning :shocked:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 March 2016, 13:49
Just come back from the dealers and they had a gorgeous LSG R in the showroom.
Probably due to it being under the perfect lighting but it was seriously stunning :shocked:

It's a colour that looks quite bland on a normal Golf but seems elevated on an R, something about the design of the R suits it.  When I saw one in the flesh a few minths ago I nearly crashed mine in the process of ogling it.   :drool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 10 March 2016, 15:16
Just come back from the dealers and they had a gorgeous LSG R in the showroom.
Probably due to it being under the perfect lighting but it was seriously stunning :shocked:

It's a colour that looks quite bland on a normal Golf but seems elevated on an R, something about the design of the R suits it.  When I saw one in the flesh a few minths ago I nearly crashed mine in the process of ogling it.   :drool:
I know just what you mean, it seems made for that particular body shape.
I still like yours the most Rebecca so don't trade it in for LSG just yet :kiss:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gtiless on 10 March 2016, 22:03
I think LSG is a colour that looks great when it is spotless but anything less then it looks a bit....meh. :undecided:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 10 March 2016, 22:23
I think LSG is a colour that looks great when it is spotless but anything less then it looks a bit....meh. :undecided:
It looks sh!t on a bog standard Golf thats for sure
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gtiless on 10 March 2016, 22:28
I think LSG is a colour that looks great when it is spotless but anything less then it looks a bit....meh. :undecided:
It looks sh!t on a bog standard Golf thats for sure

Yeah,I think you are right-If I was going to order a new car and pick a colour I dont think I would be brave enough to order LSG. Resale values anyone?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mk7-GTD on 10 March 2016, 22:30
I think LSG is a colour that looks great when it is spotless but anything less then it looks a bit....meh. :undecided:
It looks sh!t on a bog standard Golf thats for sure

Thanks, I have a GTD in LSG on order.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 March 2016, 23:06
Just come back from the dealers and they had a gorgeous LSG R in the showroom.
Probably due to it being under the perfect lighting but it was seriously stunning :shocked:

It's a colour that looks quite bland on a normal Golf but seems elevated on an R, something about the design of the R suits it.  When I saw one in the flesh a few minths ago I nearly crashed mine in the process of ogling it.   :drool:

I know just what you mean, it seems made for that particular body shape.
I still like yours the most Rebecca so don't trade it in for LSG just yet :kiss:


Well I'm not flighty in my car habits - the R, in DBP flavour, will be with me for 3 years minimum.  I'm a bit like Mr Ex (Exonian) -  stuck happy with boring great Golfs.  :smiley:

But if I see another LSG R, I can't guarantee there won't be drooling taking place.  :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 10 March 2016, 23:08
I think LSG is a colour that looks great when it is spotless but anything less then it looks a bit....meh. :undecided:
It looks sh!t on a bog standard Golf thats for sure

Thanks, I have a GTD in LSG on order.

Should look very lovely, especially because it shares the silver stripe of the R which works very well with LSG.  Please post some pics up when you get it.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 11 March 2016, 12:46
After my rant about the orange RS3 earlier in the tread, I saw a new S3 in Sepang blue today and it was a real looker.
One of the few blue cars I have ever really liked the look of.
I would say it's far nicer than Lapiz blue but I would probably get in trouble :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 March 2016, 15:48
Few pics of the new Lockwood 5dr R sill protectors I fitted yesterday. Removed the plain etched ones and replaced with these.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1625/25691642831_929c1fdfe1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/F9hoka)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1503/25160124863_3a69f2e50a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ekjdyg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1451/25760659976_d444e93323_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ffo7HW)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1463/25486056340_2d85a191f1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EQ7GCu)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: SRGTD on 14 March 2016, 16:20
Few pics of the new Lockwood 5dr R sill protectors I fitted yesterday. Removed the plain etched ones and replaced with these.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1625/25691642831_929c1fdfe1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/F9hoka)


Looks good Rebecca. Thought your carpet mats were looking dirty, until I realised it was the dirty screen on my i-pad  :grin: (goes off to clean it..............)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: SCOTTE on 06 June 2016, 13:16
Hi were these mats the Standard ones or Lux version please they look well nice suit the car well.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: SCOTTE on 09 June 2016, 21:04
Should of said the standard or lux ones from car mats for you not the dealer ones.

thanks
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 June 2016, 22:50
Hi were these mats the Standard ones or Lux version please they look well nice suit the car well.  :smiley:
Should of said the standard or lux ones from car mats for you not the dealer ones.

thanks

Hi, they are the Premier Super Lux mats from carmats2u.
 
From here http://www.carmats2u.co.uk//vw-golf-car-mats-mk7-2013-onwards-2486-p.asp

 :smiley:

This is what I ordered:

Not cheap, approx £62 with delivery but well worth it.  Much better quality than the standard mats (which are now my winter mats) and the reinforced heel pad is fantastic.
 
This is what I ordered - on the order form drop down menus I selected as follows:
 
Carpet, rubber type - Premier Super Luxe
 
Colour - Black
 
Edge Colour - Twin Two Tone Edge Black/Blue
 
Edging Type - I have ordered Twin colour edge
 
Right Hand drive
 
Automatic
 
Add info. Logo etc here - Please include the new Golf R logo on the front mats - photo of logo to follow by email.  Logo to be in Electric Blue colour.
 
Add a logo - Yes please, both front mats
 
Choose fixings - Push Fit Fixing - round
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: SCOTTE on 10 June 2016, 21:53
Perfect, that is a great help, thanks very much for the detailed info  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 August 2016, 11:45
Latest ground breaking mod.....

Before
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8836/28897828966_7121bcfb87_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L2AVLs)

After
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8684/28853437871_601dd73945_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KXFpQK)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8840/28644221840_854c0c0001_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KDc8cN)

Aluminium finish Audi 12V Power Source Dummy Cover - part no. 4H0 919 311.  £5.34 inc VAT from TPS (Trade Part Specialists).
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Raffe on 12 August 2016, 12:25
Nice little mod  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Watts on 12 August 2016, 13:46
It's great how such and small change can make such a difference! A worthwhile £5 odd spent!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 August 2016, 15:28
Nice little mod  :cool:

The power gains are amazing!  :laugh:  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 August 2016, 15:32
It's great how such and small change can make such a difference! A worthwhile £5 odd spent!

Lol, I know. I've known about this little 12V mod for ages but really didn't think it would be a big deal. Sounds stupid, but very surprised that does make a difference.  Just brings things together in the cabin a bit.  I do think for the sake of a fiver (in a £30+k car) VW could've made it the standard one. But it's a cheap and cheerful little mod.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 12 August 2016, 15:58
I've still not got round to getting one for mine.
Or the left foot rest.

Must get organised.
Must get organised.
Must get organised.

Remind me again in another 12 months...
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 August 2016, 22:17
I've still not got round to getting one for mine.
Or the left foot rest.

Must get organised.
Must get organised.
Must get organised.

Remind me again in another 12 months...

I'll set my alarm for a year's time.  :whistle:

Get yer finger out Mr Ex.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 August 2016, 23:25
It's great how such and small change can make such a difference! A worthwhile £5 odd spent!

Lol, I know. I've known about this little 12V mod for ages but really didn't think it would be a big deal. Sounds stupid, but very surprised that does make a difference.  Just brings things together in the cabin a bit.  I do think for the sake of a fiver (in a £30+k car) VW could've made it the standard one. But it's a cheap and cheerful little mod.

You reminded me that I took the Audi 12v cover out of my GTD efore I chopped it in and stuck it in one of the kitchen cupboards, meaning to stick it in the R - it is still in that cupboard.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 12 August 2016, 23:31
It's great how such and small change can make such a difference! A worthwhile £5 odd spent!

Lol, I know. I've known about this little 12V mod for ages but really didn't think it would be a big deal. Sounds stupid, but very surprised that does make a difference.  Just brings things together in the cabin a bit.  I do think for the sake of a fiver (in a £30+k car) VW could've made it the standard one. But it's a cheap and cheerful little mod.

You reminded me that I took the Audi 12v cover out of my GTD efore I chopped it in and stuck it in one of the kitchen cupboards, meaning to stick it in the R - it is still in that cupboard.

Give it a new home in the morning.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Raffe on 13 August 2016, 07:20
I've still not got round to getting one for mine.
Or the left foot rest.

Must get organised.
Must get organised.
Must get organised.

Remind me again in another 12 months...

I am blaming you and Rebecca entirely for my spending on the R....

Wheel Spacers
Left Foot Rest
Door Sill Protectors
Pedal Box

 :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Raffe on 13 August 2016, 07:30
...and now the Audi 12v insert having seen the online link  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 13 August 2016, 12:39
I've still not got round to getting one for mine.
Or the left foot rest.

Must get organised.
Must get organised.
Must get organised.

Remind me again in another 12 months...

I am blaming you and Rebecca entirely for my spending on the R....

Wheel Spacers
Left Foot Rest
Door Sill Protectors
Pedal Box

 :whistle: :whistle:
...and now the Audi 12v insert having seen the online link  :rolleyes:

Lol.  But blaming??? 

Raffe, you should be thanking Mr Ex (and me) for making your R that bit better.

If only he (and I) were on commission!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 13 August 2016, 12:55
I've still not got round to getting one for mine.
Or the left foot rest.

Must get organised.
Must get organised.
Must get organised.

Remind me again in another 12 months...

I am blaming you and Rebecca entirely for my spending on the R....

Wheel Spacers
Left Foot Rest
Door Sill Protectors
Pedal Box

 :whistle: :whistle:

Forums are evil places Phil, full of temptation and a never ending spiral downwards (financially)!

One day you turn up with an idea of a nice sensible Diesel and a few years later you're driving a 300 plus BHP 4wd petrol car that drinks fuel and has had a fortune spent on it in mods and cleaning gear, there is no redemption!
We can but hope VW don't ever release the R400 or the cycle will start all over again...  :lipsrsealed:


Good to see you're appreciating the pedal box. I think for the next generation of Golf I'm going to start importing the boxes myself!  :laugh:

Any pics of the silver car with added spacers Phil? I've been a bit rubbish at keeping up with forums lately, too many people expecting me to actually do some work at work and too many interruptions at home.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Raffe on 13 August 2016, 13:09
Pics will follow shortly, fitting the wheels has turned into deep cleaning the wheels and waxing them within an inch of their life...just stopped for lunch with only rear o/s done  :whistle:

You are quite right though Andy, we sold the modded Mk6 GTi in '13 for a 120d M-Sport to be sensible, traded that after 10 months for the Fiesta ST for some fun and now full circle back into a 300bhp Golf as you have quite rightly highlighted  :evil: :evil:

Back to it and then some pics later :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 13 August 2016, 17:06
Coming soon....cornering lights upgrade....

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160813/57cec2982fefe9c4975c555c7ee7701d.jpg)

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Mrparkuk on 13 August 2016, 19:39
Coming soon....cornering lights upgrade....

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160813/57cec2982fefe9c4975c555c7ee7701d.jpg)

I have these fitted. They are a worthwhile improvement over the 'yellow' standard fit corner light bulbs.  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 13 August 2016, 20:51
Coming soon....cornering lights upgrade....



I have these fitted. They are a worthwhile improvement over the 'yellow' standard fit corner light bulbs.  :cool:

Good to know.  :smiley:  Bought them on the strength of someone's review, pics/and vid on another forum.  They looked spot on as a colour match for the other lights.  Hopefully get them fitted in the next week.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 August 2016, 17:38
Few pics after a clean.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8672/28975287835_106c1d7271_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L9rVAc)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8264/28975272945_bbdd1ce99e_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L9rRat)

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8636/28900414101_8d962cf0be_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L2QbeK)

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8695/28356067364_5896615308_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KcJfVb)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7565/28360866014_88e804dd21_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Kd9Row)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8165/28694008390_995e76d33d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KHAi1A)

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8738/28874969412_252fb9f28a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KZzLqd)

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8637/28363366373_d1f4465ed3_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KdnEEa)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8819/28875028112_d9520da967_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KZA4Sh)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8801/28360876144_2514c26b39_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Kd9Upb)

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8855/28360883594_c0869f33f2_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Kd9WBC)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8684/28942720126_bc3eb3d4e8_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L6z1kY)

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7776/28942812946_1ae2d9b715_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L6ztWj)

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8658/28898870031_80dbafa371_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L2GgeR)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7723/28870241472_887df778b5_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KZawY1)

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8831/28942847316_61c3b0ea21_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L6zE9U)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 16 August 2016, 05:00
Damn that's shiny!  :cool:
Have any random Golf estate owning ladies complimented you on your shine Mademoiselle B?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 16 August 2016, 13:32
So when do the puddle lights with R logos appear  :grin:

I'm in Faversham in a couple of weeks so may have to leave the wagon on your drive with clean me, there again may leave the mother and father in law on the drive instead  :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 August 2016, 16:54
Damn that's shiny!  :cool:
Have any random Golf estate owning ladies complimented you on your shine Mademoiselle B?

Nope, strangely not Mr Ex. No such compliments forthcoming from such sources!  Not since it was referred to as a "tart's handbag" some time ago.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 August 2016, 16:59
So when do the puddle lights with R logos appear  :grin:

I'm in Faversham in a couple of weeks so may have to leave the wagon on your drive with clean me, there again may leave the mother and father in law on the drive instead  :whistle:

Never!   R puddle lights cross the line.  :laugh:

I beg you, leave the wagon.  I've just packed my own folks back off home to Yorkshire!  So all out of aging parent patience atm.   :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 17 October 2016, 12:11
Latest mini mod...

Fitted Massive Philips Diamond Vision H7 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0088ORMHE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Big improvement on the standard yellow but, these give off a nice bright white – a great match for the xenons.   Really easy to fit, 2 minute job.

A few daytime pics, night pics to follow.

Before
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5449/30085456590_bd8dede10f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MQxQ5N)

After
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8267/30266208562_441af3ba97_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/N7wem7)

Before
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5620/30085468900_d9550773fa_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MQxTK3)

After
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5441/30085467990_932e8db0b0_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MQxTtm)

Before
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8276/30085464310_45180002e9_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MQxSnU)

After
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8138/30382396735_57f8abb226_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NhMJ3t)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 17 October 2016, 16:18
Looks far more integrated Ms B and much crisper than the yellow.
I did the same mod with my GTI but still haven't got round to doing it to the R even though the bulbs are still sat on a shelf.
I'll have to get my backside in gear before the clocks change and we go into the perma dark six months.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 17 October 2016, 17:47
Am I correct in saying that these are not road legal in the UK ?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: jv on 17 October 2016, 18:02
Booth11 changes them when she gets to the end of her drive.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 17 October 2016, 18:26
If anyone would have the patience to do that, it would be Rebecca :nerd:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 17 October 2016, 20:12
Looks far more integrated Ms B and much crisper than the yellow.
I did the same mod with my GTI but still haven't got round to doing it to the R even though the bulbs are still sat on a shelf.
I'll have to get my backside in gear before the clocks change and we go into the perma dark six months.

Come on Mr Ex, you're letting the side down.   :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 17 October 2016, 20:13
Am I correct in saying that these are not road legal in the UK ?

Yep, don't comply with EU legislation - being 5000k.  I'm awaiting the knock on the door from the boys in blue.  :laugh:  A number of people have them with no issues, and even passing MOT.  They are not the primary lights so very much doubt there will be any issues.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 17 October 2016, 20:16
Booth11 changes them when she gets to the end of her drive.


 :grin:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 17 October 2016, 20:20
Anyway... :whistle:  Here's some evening pics of them..

At dusk
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5513/30389177305_e9e4bb4535_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NiotER)

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7779/30092165170_3c009e11ca_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MR9diY)

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8277/30389179035_01b05fb1a5_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NioubF)

And when it got a bit darker:

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5730/30092571250_2d0c16122d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MRbi2m)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5558/29759188424_f75a611b56_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MkHBVA)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8560/30273162022_84ea83df65_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/N88Snm)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mjh_056 on 18 October 2016, 12:31
It was really good to see this thread go up top as was great to read the out of the box review from someone who has now driving it for many miles and likely still feels the same, so it was quite reassuring as the long wait sometimes casts doubt on the decision IE: should have been more sensible and gone GTD again or GTI.

But feeling reassured again that have something coming that you have to experience at least once.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 18 October 2016, 19:09
It was really good to see this thread go up top as was great to read the out of the box review from someone who has now driving it for many miles and likely still feels the same, so it was quite reassuring as the long wait sometimes casts doubt on the decision IE: should have been more sensible and gone GTD again or GTI.

But feeling reassured again that have something coming that you have to experience at least once.

Thanks.  I have every intention of writing an update review in this thread very soon (just need to find time), but you are right, it wouldn't be very different from my initial review, as on the whole I do feel the same and my opinion of the car is largely unchanged, apart from the issue I felt about the lazy throttle which the pedal box sorted.  But I'd like to do an update, as a lot has happened in my year of R ownership - some good - nice little mods etc, and some of it not very good - damage by others.  Yet I love it more than ever!

It is hard to lose sight of it when you have a long wait, but the car is worth it, and I hope you enjoy your R as much as I am mine, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts when you finally get it.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Misterp on 19 October 2016, 08:43
Given I'm about to take delivery of my second MK7 I'm hoping my sentiments and expectations are as you have found.

My thoughts on my out going GTD given the ups and downs are th same in that it's had its issues but great all round car. Could do with more power but good mile cruncher and comfortable to boot.

I'm hoping the R is similar in terms of its comfort but with the extra power and driving fun with less economy.

I take delivery tomorrow and will look to get a drive out to the gym in the evening  :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: GTD1414 on 19 October 2016, 13:33
Anyway... :whistle:  Here's some evening pics of them..

At dusk
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5513/30389177305_e9e4bb4535_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NiotER)

I did a 3-point turn in front of a nice black (parked) Cayanne this morning - noticed how yellow the cornering lights are against the xenons in the reflection, nice little mod.  :cool:



Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 22 October 2016, 17:56
Dirty, and doing the shopping duties, but time for a few quick phone pics.

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5623/30490953885_c0e4319fb9_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nso7it)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5696/30374079062_4029b93fb0_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nh46uj)

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8657/29860145594_7f9414bb2d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MuD3Ys)

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8635/29858554723_3fc1a47b2d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MuuU4D)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5570/30454373726_f60d490b30_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Np9Ci5)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Rhyso on 22 October 2016, 22:23
You need to ditch the dealer supplied plate holders  :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 22 October 2016, 23:03
You need to ditch the dealer supplied plate holders  :whistle:

I know.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 22 October 2016, 23:42
Very arty Ms B.
Never one to miss an opportunity! :afro:
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 24 October 2016, 13:52
You need to ditch the dealer supplied plate holders  :whistle:

And the GB number plates.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 24 October 2016, 14:47
You need to ditch the dealer supplied plate holders  :whistle:

And the GB number plates.

Again......I know.  :grin:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 24 October 2016, 15:19
I tried pressed metal plates and they don't look right on the mk7 to my eyes.
I much prefer my plastic plates.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 24 October 2016, 15:37
I tried pressed metal plates and they don't look right on the mk7 to my eyes.
I much prefer my plastic plates.

I dunno, think a lot can depend on colour of the car.  Someone on the R forum has pressed plates and they look really good, but that's on an Oryx white.  Not so sure they'd suit a black car.  The search has begun.  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gnasher on 24 October 2016, 15:39
I tried pressed metal plates and they don't look right on the mk7 to my eyes.
I much prefer my plastic plates.

I'm on the fence on that one. Mine came with dealer plates (Alan Day no less) and I immediately exported the car to Cyprus where it was fitted with pressed steel plates (white front and rear) which looked spot on with the car being white too.

When I got back I bought a set of legal UK pressed plates and fitted them and am constantly wondering if I should get a new set of dealer plates fitted.

I used to be quite indecisive, but now I'm not so sure lol.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Carbon VW on 24 October 2016, 16:03
Hi Mrs Booth! Here are 2 pics of my Carbon Grey Gti with pressed plates and carbon effect surrounds. I think they look good on a dark car and would look great on your R. :smiley:

(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/kemp1011/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2721_zpsmnzhjlxm.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/kemp1011/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2721_zpsmnzhjlxm.jpg.html)

(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/kemp1011/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2708_zpseobnqiuu.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/kemp1011/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2708_zpseobnqiuu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 24 October 2016, 16:12
Now I think that plate surrounds look too fussy on the clean lines of a modern car. I much prefer plain plastic with with tiny BS and makers marks, screwed on tho' for easy of removal to clean behind.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 24 October 2016, 16:29
This is mine with the pressed plates.
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/2/1582/26480690626_62bbb9b595_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Gm1sKu)

How it looks now
[url=https://flic.kr/p/M3YscC](https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8425/29569701962_d31a36104e_k.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/139403774@N05/)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/139403774@N05/)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: fredgroves on 24 October 2016, 16:35
A friend of mine got a ticket for "German style" pressed plates on his BMW a few weeks ago...

Just saying...
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 24 October 2016, 16:38
Same as my mate. He had it on his T5.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Rhyso on 24 October 2016, 16:44
A friend of mine got a ticket for "German style" pressed plates on his BMW a few weeks ago...

Just saying...

Obviously show plates then. Most pressed plates are now manufactured to British standard

I've run pressed plates on my last 3 cars and never had a problem :afro:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 24 October 2016, 16:45
That will, or should have been to do with the font or logo. You can get legal UK font pressed plates.

I had a set of German font pressed plates with a D badge years ago. I got pulled for them, but got away with a ticket as I swapped them there and then for a legal set that I kept in the boot.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Rhyso on 24 October 2016, 16:48
Not a Golf but you get the idea - Booth wanted pics of pressed plates on a black car  :whistle: :grin:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/Audi%20A6/444F9569-C5A2-4BAD-96B6-CF72CA93073C_zpswo1mmjbm.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Rhyso/media/Audi%20A6/444F9569-C5A2-4BAD-96B6-CF72CA93073C_zpswo1mmjbm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: phope on 24 October 2016, 18:21
*error*
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 24 October 2016, 22:38
Thanks all for the helpful pics of pressed plates on dark/black cars.  I do really like pressed plates, and think that is the way I will go.  I was thinking of loosing the surround altogether for a really clean look, but not sure about the durability of stick on plates.  Anyone got any links for pressed plates?  Much appreciated.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 24 October 2016, 22:53
I think the surrounds and metal plates look a bit naff on newer cars

I stick with the old and trusty plastic stock plate, i have gone non euro now and my local VW dealer were the cheapest for plates.

Mine never stuck the black strips on
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 25 October 2016, 08:07
Anyone got any links for pressed plates?

http://www.dubmeister.co.uk/webshop/uk-legal-pressed-metal-plates/uk-legal-plates/
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gnasher on 25 October 2016, 08:55
Anyone got any links for pressed plates?

http://www.dubmeister.co.uk/webshop/uk-legal-pressed-metal-plates/uk-legal-plates/

Mine are dubmeister one's too - would definitely recommend them.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 October 2016, 17:58
Anyone got any links for pressed plates?

http://www.dubmeister.co.uk/webshop/uk-legal-pressed-metal-plates/uk-legal-plates/

Thanks Simon.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 October 2016, 17:59
Anyone got any links for pressed plates?

http://www.dubmeister.co.uk/webshop/uk-legal-pressed-metal-plates/uk-legal-plates/

Mine are dubmeister one's too - would definitely recommend them.

Cheers Gnasher.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mcmaddy on 25 October 2016, 20:58
Do you lads with the pressed plates just stick them on or are they in surrounds. I've had two vw Wolfsburg number plate surrounds in the garage for a couple of years, brand new. Would these be better to use than what the dealer will fit and no doubt screw straight into the bumper etc?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Gnasher on 26 October 2016, 11:15
Do you lads with the pressed plates just stick them on or are they in surrounds. I've had two vw Wolfsburg number plate surrounds in the garage for a couple of years, brand new. Would these be better to use than what the dealer will fit and no doubt screw straight into the bumper etc?

I've always stuck mine on, however if you ever need to remove them, you'll likely ruin the plates.

Or if you're the Cypriot guy who changed my plates for me when I exported the car there (I didn't ask him to, he thought he was doing me a favour) who ruined the paintwork behind the rear plate, damaged the OEM surround on the front as well as ruining both of the actual UK plastic number plates taking them off  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Carbon VW on 26 October 2016, 11:25
Do you lads with the pressed plates just stick them on or are they in surrounds. I've had two vw Wolfsburg number plate surrounds in the garage for a couple of years, brand new. Would these be better to use than what the dealer will fit and no doubt screw straight into the bumper etc?
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I always use surrounds as they house the plates nicely. After a few years the paint starts to chip/fade so I just prize the plates out of the surrounds and pop in the new ones. 5 min job once you have taken the trouble to screw the surround onto the backing plate. My main reason for using metal plates is that I really hate the screws and plastic caps that come with standard plates.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: jv on 26 October 2016, 11:33
Surround screwed to car, plate stuck to surround with 3M dual lock. Nice clean finish that way :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: p3asa on 26 October 2016, 13:47
I always ask the dealer to stick my plates on.
I don't pay nearly £30k for them to put screws through my car   :undecided: plus my private plate is only a few digits so its always smaller and there is nothing worse of holes either side of it.

In fact the Audi dealer I got the A1 from screwed them on despite me informing him in all the emails we had between us.

He sent me a picture of the car being PDI'd with the plates screwed  :shocked: I couldn't believe it. He had to get the brand new car smart repaired. I wasn't happy at all.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mjh_056 on 26 October 2016, 14:46
Arrived this morning :)

Lapiz Blue Golf R 5 Door DSG Pretoria (On Pirelli) Dynamic Chassis Control Winter Pack Keyless Rear View Camera App-Connect plus Sat Nav.

As much as loved the GTD and genuinely did, this genuinely (and as expect really) takes on to another level. 

Will drive for a few weeks and do some GTD > R comparison for those thinking of same move.

But some obvious first thoughts.

1. Love the Colour
2. The front end feels so much lighter than the GTD, was instantly noticeable.
3. The DCC quelled the little worry had over the ride on lowered R and Pretorai, its smooth in normal and cossetted in comfort and with matching throttle response is still the perfect traffic cruiser in them settings.
4. Took to little run that know and moved into race and yep, its quick! and them sounds are something personally not experienced before, can see the addiction now of the pops,  :cool: The GTD was pretty quiet for a diesel, but petrol engine is a much nicer 'freer' listening experience in how revs,
5. That tiny bit of lag that GTD gave at getaway is replaced by instant power response (dropped the DSG into S while in normal)
6. Little things, but like the blue lighting in the interior, as the GTD was nice, but plain white.
7 Not really hung about, mixed up driving over about 55 miles, and 25.1 MPG > Will report on long term later when into my more normal driving patterns
8. MIB 2 is much better, that small lift in screen quality and size makes a big difference and like that the DAB Icons are just there on select, and not through SD Card.
9. Managed to try Car Play and like can now play my Deezer, but not worked how get back to Car Play when enter another screen except through the menu? Maybe an icon not seen? Not looked at Car Net yet.
10. Keyless, easy to use and yes kept in pocket! But to confirm you do have to lock the car with fob when leave it?
11. Was brave and parked it next to another car as fetched coffee, longest wait for coffee ever !!
12. Rear Camera, forget to look at it as just listen for beeps usually then reference the screen, but like the green and red guidelines, def be useful in some of places that park - can park quite capably without anything, but its a nice aid.


Not really seen benefit of the AWD so actually waiting for a wet day now and first pull away, but already blasted out of a junction that use daily where gaps are small, and no yellow lights and just woosh  :cool:

Think that's it for now, obviously only touched on the performance, but having driven the GTD this morning and then the R the instant comparisons were obvious

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 26 October 2016, 16:44

9. Managed to try Car Play and like can now play my Deezer, but not worked how get back to Car Play when enter another screen except through the menu? Maybe an icon not seen? Not looked at Car Net yet.
10. Keyless, easy to use and yes kept in pocket! But to confirm you do have to lock the car with fob when leave it?


Congratulations on your new R, great spec - glad you are liking it.  They are great cars.

Just regarding a couple of your questions above:

9. Not sure if this is what you mean but if you are on a particular screen in CarPlay there is always a rounded off square icon in the bottom left of the screen. Tap that and it will take you back to the home screen.  Or if you have come out of Carplay completely and want to get back to it, then simply press the hard MENU button and select App-connect from the choices and that will take you back into it.

10. No, you don't have to lock the car with fob when you leave it.  There is a small dimple on the door handle which you just swoosh your hand across when you want to lock it. When locking the wing mirrors will fold in. To unlock just put your hand inside the handle.  As with normal keyed system, you can unlock the boot (just by opening with the badge) and the rest of the car will stay locked.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts as you get further into ownership although you might to start your own thread, as this is kind of my 'what I do to my R' thread and your posts might get lost as it goes along.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: p3asa on 26 October 2016, 16:49
I'm going the same way as yourself only its from a manual GTD to a DSG R so its good to read your review.

Not sure what you meant re keyless and locking. Have VW changed it? You used to be able to push the wee dimple on the handle and it would lock. Seems daft you then have to fish your keys out.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Snoopy on 26 October 2016, 20:05
OP
As a detailing person is the reduced metal panel thickness noticable on the mk7?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 26 October 2016, 21:31
OP
As a detailing person is the reduced metal panel thickness noticable on the mk7?


Aesthetically no, but when you push against the panels (not much pressure required) it is noticeable and you realise how thin they are.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Snoopy on 26 October 2016, 23:06
OP
As a detailing person is the reduced metal panel thickness noticable on the mk7?


Aesthetically no, but when you push against the panels (not much pressure required) it is noticeable and you realise how thin they are.
Thanks for the reply, I was just reading about it earlier so it got me curious.
It was the one thing I use to think made the golf feel solid and expensive and thought the mk6 wasn't that great on.
Our Mazda 2 panels are quite thin and I notice it quite abit when detailing it.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mjh_056 on 27 October 2016, 09:59

9. Managed to try Car Play and like can now play my Deezer, but not worked how get back to Car Play when enter another screen except through the menu? Maybe an icon not seen? Not looked at Car Net yet.
10. Keyless, easy to use and yes kept in pocket! But to confirm you do have to lock the car with fob when leave it?


Congratulations on your new R, great spec - glad you are liking it.  They are great cars.

Just regarding a couple of your questions above:

9. Not sure if this is what you mean but if you are on a particular screen in CarPlay there is always a rounded off square icon in the bottom left of the screen. Tap that and it will take you back to the home screen.  Or if you have come out of Carplay completely and want to get back to it, then simply press the hard MENU button and select App-connect from the choices and that will take you back into it.

10. No, you don't have to lock the car with fob when you leave it.  There is a small dimple on the door handle which you just swoosh your hand across when you want to lock it. When locking the wing mirrors will fold in. To unlock just put your hand inside the handle.  As with normal keyed system, you can unlock the boot (just by opening with the badge) and the rest of the car will stay locked.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts as you get further into ownership although you might to start your own thread, as this is kind of my 'what I do to my R' thread and your posts might get lost as it goes along.  :laugh:

Morning Rebecca

Of course you are correct on both counts above, can find the car play readily now through menu and locking the car is as easy as the swoosh you described :)

Will likely do some specific GTD > R review once drove for a month but loving it and actually quite like the way it 'hides' in the dark, it just silhouettes to a normal looking Golf when parked and in relative dark, opposed to my white GTD which was always a little more obvious

As careful as am, think the Pretoria will do well to last without a dink on a kerb as its a lot of metal on low tyres.

The guy who took my previous straight to auction said they really do not worry about wheels having a few marks, its accepted wear and tear.

But they still intact at moment and maybe the green lines on the reverse camera will assist in keeping them that way.

The two things outside of performance that really happy with is the ride and the lightness of the front end, there has been no drop off from my GTD with the DCC despite the lowering of the R and 19" Pretoria.

Never gave a second thought to steering on the GTD, its all I knew, but in comparison the R is so much lighter

Another small difference is the dials, they are far sharper and brighter than the GTD, the outer counters IE: 10, 20, 30 MPH being LCD like in their flatness and brightness, - Never knew the R dials were different, or was there a change made?

MPG has dropped, Ooops, 23.2 MPG with just local and some 'testing'

Plan a good drive out Friday where can cruise, so be interested to see what happens then, though expect MPG to gradually improve as engine beds in.

So its been good to get in the R and just drive it as so familiar with everything but there has been enough lift all around to make it feel like a new experience too,

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 27 October 2016, 23:29

Morning Rebecca

Of course you are correct on both counts above, can find the car play readily now through menu and locking the car is as easy as the swoosh you described :)

Will likely do some specific GTD > R review once drove for a month but loving it and actually quite like the way it 'hides' in the dark, it just silhouettes to a normal looking Golf when parked and in relative dark, opposed to my white GTD which was always a little more obvious

As careful as am, think the Pretoria will do well to last without a dink on a kerb as its a lot of metal on low tyres.

The guy who took my previous straight to auction said they really do not worry about wheels having a few marks, its accepted wear and tear.

But they still intact at moment and maybe the green lines on the reverse camera will assist in keeping them that way.

The two things outside of performance that really happy with is the ride and the lightness of the front end, there has been no drop off from my GTD with the DCC despite the lowering of the R and 19" Pretoria.

Never gave a second thought to steering on the GTD, its all I knew, but in comparison the R is so much lighter

Another small difference is the dials, they are far sharper and brighter than the GTD, the outer counters IE: 10, 20, 30 MPH being LCD like in their flatness and brightness, - Never knew the R dials were different, or was there a change made?

MPG has dropped, Ooops, 23.2 MPG with just local and some 'testing'

Plan a good drive out Friday where can cruise, so be interested to see what happens then, though expect MPG to gradually improve as engine beds in.

So its been good to get in the R and just drive it as so familiar with everything but there has been enough lift all around to make it feel like a new experience too,


Hi mjh

You might be pleasantly surprised with the Pretorias - I've curbed every diamond cut wheel I've had on a Golf but so far (might have just jinxed it!) my Prets have not yet been introduced to it.  They seem to sit slightly further back in the tyre (Conti 5Ps) which gives a bit of added protection.  What tyres has yours come with, I think they've switched to Pirelli P-Zeros now?

Didn't think the dials were different but maybe they are?

Yep the drop in mpg is a given, lol, but it does get better - mine has risen by about 3-4 mpg over last few months (still woeful though - heavy right foot and heavy traffic town do not make for high mpg), hopefully you can get more from yours. 

Really glad yo are liking it so far, and good to hear that it still feels like enough of a change from your GTD to feel like a new car.  Really interested to hear more as you go on, and I'm sure there will be lots of people interested in your direct comparison of the R v GTD.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mjh_056 on 28 October 2016, 08:34

Morning Rebecca

Of course you are correct on both counts above, can find the car play readily now through menu and locking the car is as easy as the swoosh you described :)

Will likely do some specific GTD > R review once drove for a month but loving it and actually quite like the way it 'hides' in the dark, it just silhouettes to a normal looking Golf when parked and in relative dark, opposed to my white GTD which was always a little more obvious

As careful as am, think the Pretoria will do well to last without a dink on a kerb as its a lot of metal on low tyres.

The guy who took my previous straight to auction said they really do not worry about wheels having a few marks, its accepted wear and tear.

But they still intact at moment and maybe the green lines on the reverse camera will assist in keeping them that way.

The two things outside of performance that really happy with is the ride and the lightness of the front end, there has been no drop off from my GTD with the DCC despite the lowering of the R and 19" Pretoria.

Never gave a second thought to steering on the GTD, its all I knew, but in comparison the R is so much lighter

Another small difference is the dials, they are far sharper and brighter than the GTD, the outer counters IE: 10, 20, 30 MPH being LCD like in their flatness and brightness, - Never knew the R dials were different, or was there a change made?

MPG has dropped, Ooops, 23.2 MPG with just local and some 'testing'

Plan a good drive out Friday where can cruise, so be interested to see what happens then, though expect MPG to gradually improve as engine beds in.

So its been good to get in the R and just drive it as so familiar with everything but there has been enough lift all around to make it feel like a new experience too,


Hi mjh

You might be pleasantly surprised with the Pretorias - I've curbed every diamond cut wheel I've had on a Golf but so far (might have just jinxed it!) my Prets have not yet been introduced to it.  They seem to sit slightly further back in the tyre (Conti 5Ps) which gives a bit of added protection.  What tyres has yours come with, I think they've switched to Pirelli P-Zeros now?

Didn't think the dials were different but maybe they are?

Yep the drop in mpg is a given, lol, but it does get better - mine has risen by about 3-4 mpg over last few months (still woeful though - heavy right foot and heavy traffic town do not make for high mpg), hopefully you can get more from yours. 

Really glad yo are liking it so far, and good to hear that it still feels like enough of a change from your GTD to feel like a new car.  Really interested to hear more as you go on, and I'm sure there will be lots of people interested in your direct comparison of the R v GTD.   :smiley:

Think the rear view camera will help as it does give you good starting point for the kerb and as you state the tyre does protrude and provide protection. We shall see!

The tyres are Pirelli P Zero 235/35 R19 which have excellent rating wherever look and actually looking forward to my first wet getaway (which was top of my irritation list for the GTD)

To be fair work has tied me to the laptop and journeys have only been town and very local and given that 'testing' performance in bursts too, then 23.2 MPG is probably about right. Still expecting when get into mixed driving and engine beds in around 30-32 MPG as comparison to the GTD 37-42 MPG on same patterns. This be a long term comparison.

Will say that am surprisingly not bothered by fuel as much as thought, think the realisation and feeling of what driving offsets that feeling.

As for the dials, definitely a nice lift, maybe the GTD dials were the early ones? or its just the R has these dials? But the outer rim glows a nice flat bright white and is reminiscent of what you would get on a LCD screen.

(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/Mobile Uploads/DBA85153-89D0-4A13-A5C3-7E23C827A0A0_zpsbtuzc3rt.jpg)

You definitely feel that you driving something a little more special but its tangibly lighter in the front end and more responsive in general at low speeds, where all GTD best work is once up and moving. And of course the noises are completely different  :cool:

Out for a 50 mile run and return on A road and Motorway tonight. Will do a GTD > R review when think finally grasped the differences and how much of what perceived that convinced me to select is the reality? 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: p3asa on 28 October 2016, 11:10
Out of interest mjh_056 have you noticed any difference between the 2 DSG's?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mjh_056 on 28 October 2016, 11:45
Out of interest mjh_056 have you noticed any difference between the 2 DSG's?

It still says 6 gears so its unchanged as would expect being pre-facelift though to be honest never count them

Not really stretched its legs yet, that be coming tonight and over the weekend, have nice rat run down some lanes, onto A road and then onto a Motorway for 3 long junctions, so drives have been quite short due to work keeping me tied to this laptop  :wink:

The only thing noticed was it stayed in 5th at 30 MPH speed limit and when manually shifted it to 6, the 'think blue' gauge (was playing with the bits and pieces) had a hissy fit and deducted me points haha, so maybe that indicates the rations are different as to what is optimum gearing for speed/engine, and that 5th at low speeds puts less pressure on the engine.

Functionally would say the DSG itself is not noticeable in difference to the outgoing GTD, it still seamlessly and smoothly moves through the gears both up and down.

2 most noticeable things are front end/steering feels a lot lighter and the noises/pops.

Should have a better feel for it all by end of the weekend, and will keep a note to see if there is any difference in the DSG.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 28 October 2016, 12:47
Think the rear view camera will help as it does give you good starting point for the kerb and as you state the tyre does protrude and provide protection. We shall see!

The tyres are Pirelli P Zero 235/35 R19 which have excellent rating wherever look and actually looking forward to my first wet getaway (which was top of my irritation list for the GTD)

To be fair work has tied me to the laptop and journeys have only been town and very local and given that 'testing' performance in bursts too, then 23.2 MPG is probably about right. Still expecting when get into mixed driving and engine beds in around 30-32 MPG as comparison to the GTD 37-42 MPG on same patterns. This be a long term comparison.

Will say that am surprisingly not bothered by fuel as much as thought, think the realisation and feeling of what driving offsets that feeling.

As for the dials, definitely a nice lift, maybe the GTD dials were the early ones? or its just the R has these dials? But the outer rim glows a nice flat bright white and is reminiscent of what you would get on a LCD screen.

(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/Mobile Uploads/DBA85153-89D0-4A13-A5C3-7E23C827A0A0_zpsbtuzc3rt.jpg)

You definitely feel that you driving something a little more special but its tangibly lighter in the front end and more responsive in general at low speeds, where all GTD best work is once up and moving. And of course the noises are completely different  :cool:

Out for a 50 mile run and return on A road and Motorway tonight. Will do a GTD > R review when think finally grasped the differences and how much of what perceived that convinced me to select is the reality? 


Ooh, see what you mean about the dials.  Not sure if that's R specific or not, perhaps someone else can confirm?  Yeah I have to say much prefer the R dials which are beautiful (in my eyes) and much prefer them to the oft-discussed future digital dash. 

There's a Think Blue game thread going I over on VWROC. http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/16340-think-blue-game/  It's throws up some amusing results.  I sat in heavy commuter traffic one morning and got 100/100 (must be driving economically when not moving, lol.  Then the next morning on the school run, round the rural back roads, got it down to  37/100.  The Think Blue thing just makes you want to see how low you can go, which is ironic!

Anyway, the mpg suddenly becomes a minor thing when you get in and drive it.  :evil:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: p3asa on 28 October 2016, 13:50
Out of interest mjh_056 have you noticed any difference between the 2 DSG's?

It still says 6 gears so its unchanged as would expect being pre-facelift though to be honest never count them



 :grin: :grin:  I wasn't being that simplistic.  I know its the same gearbox but folk have commented previously on how they feel the DSG map has changed etc.

Thanks for the feedback though.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mjh_056 on 28 October 2016, 14:42
Out of interest mjh_056 have you noticed any difference between the 2 DSG's?

It still says 6 gears so its unchanged as would expect being pre-facelift though to be honest never count them


There is a 7 gear box coming so just covering that base.

Noted above that it stayed in 5th at 30 MPH and had an economy fit when tried to force it into 6th

But understand what you asking and will be using across all the conditions later so will see if note any changes in benavious, that maybe DSG or just R specific (by long term R owners comments)
 :grin: :grin:  I wasn't being that simplistic.  I know its the same gearbox but folk have commented previously on how they feel the DSG map has changed etc.

Thanks for the feedback though.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 30 October 2016, 22:58
Treated the R to an inside clean this week...

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 30 October 2016, 22:59
And not to be left out, the outside got treated today...

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 30 October 2016, 23:16
Bloomin' eck Ms B, if mine ever ended up that clean I'd be locking it away for months on end to make sure it didn't get dirty again!
Good work.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 30 October 2016, 23:47
Bloomin' eck Ms B, if mine ever ended up that clean I'd be locking it away for months on end to make sure it didn't get dirty again!
Good work.

Thanks Mr Ex. :smiley:  Sadly it'll probably be dirty again by 9-30am!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Rhyso on 31 October 2016, 07:59
Beautifully clean as always but I can't help thinking it looks a little scared of the ground  :undecided:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 October 2016, 09:22
Beautifully clean as always but I can't help thinking it looks a little scared of the ground  :undecided:

I am no lowering it. :tongue: As it is you've cost me the price of a set if pressed numberplates which sre en-route.  :grin:

My driveway is on an incline which doesn't help.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: breezasib on 31 October 2016, 09:26
I take it that arm rest cubby hole tidy is not a standard R thing? Looks like a good idea as otherwise its just a bit of a bottomless pit.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Rhyso on 31 October 2016, 10:54
Beautifully clean as always but I can't help thinking it looks a little scared of the ground  :undecided:

I am no lowering it. :tongue: As it is you've cost me the price of a set if pressed numberplates which sre en-route.  :grin:

My driveway is on an incline which doesn't help.

Not my fault you bought them. I merely suggested you should have pressed plates  :tongue:

Ah that might be it.....or there's still a little bit of the transport block left behind  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 October 2016, 11:34
I take it that arm rest cubby hole tidy is not a standard R thing? Looks like a good idea as otherwise its just a bit of a bottomless pit.

No it's not standard, just a cheap chinese storage box - loads on ebay but they take a while to come. Like this http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Glove-Box-Armrest-Storage-Box-Storage-For-2014-Golf-7-Brand-new-/271923434569?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202351%2526meid%253D452f3e0097d14700abc727e04a408540%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D1%2526rkt%253D7%2526sd%253D282021710483&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 31 October 2016, 11:35
Lowering the car would reduce the amount of room she'd have to get her arms up into the wheel arches to clean the springs. That would never do.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 October 2016, 11:36
Beautifully clean as always but I can't help thinking it looks a little scared of the ground  :undecided:

I am no lowering it. :tongue: As it is you've cost me the price of a set if pressed numberplates which sre en-route.  :grin:

My driveway is on an incline which doesn't help.

Not my fault you bought them. I merely suggested you should have pressed plates  :tongue:

Ah that might be it.....or there's still a little bit of the transport block left behind  :laugh:

You know what happens with 'mere suggestions'.  Still you can't take all the blame/credit as new plates were already on my radar.  :smiley:

Definitely no transport pucks, lol.  I checked them on collection, grovelling round on my belly on the tarmac as the dealer salesman looked on with bemusment/pity.  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 October 2016, 11:37
Lowering the car would reduce the amount of room she'd have to get her arms up into the wheel arches to clean the springs. That would never do.

 :grin: You know me too well. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Raffe on 31 October 2016, 11:49
I am no lowering it. :tongue: As it is you've cost me the price of a set if pressed numberplates which sre en-route.  :grin:

My driveway is on an incline which doesn't help.

I will see if I can sway you once mine has had it's Eibach springs fitted in December  :evil:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 October 2016, 11:57
I am no lowering it. :tongue: As it is you've cost me the price of a set if pressed numberplates which sre en-route.  :grin:

My driveway is on an incline which doesn't help.

I will see if I can sway you once mine has had it's Eibach springs fitted in December  :evil:

I beg you not to post any pictures of it :cry:  I already hate you for having one of the best looking R's.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: mjh_056 on 31 October 2016, 19:19
Still too busy enjoying the R to review but coming soon.


Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 31 October 2016, 21:39
I took a few pics of the car as I was leaving work tonight.  The sun was just dipping down with some nice light effect on the car, so I snapped a few quick pics with new iPhone 7 Plus. 


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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 31 October 2016, 22:14
Very nice as usual.
That new iphone certainly has a hell of a camera on it :drool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Raffe on 01 November 2016, 06:02
I beg you not to post any pictures of it :cry:  I already hate you for having one of the best looking R's.  :laugh:

I'll pm them to you daily  :evil:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: dubber36 on 01 November 2016, 07:51
I took a few pics of the car as I was leaving work tonight.

Night??? Jeez, what time do you knock off? Oh yeah, you work for the council, don't you?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 01 November 2016, 09:10
I beg you not to post any pictures of it :cry:  I already hate you for having one of the best looking R's.  :laugh:

I'll pm them to you daily  :evil:


 :grin:  You are too kind.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 01 November 2016, 09:18
I took a few pics of the car as I was leaving work tonight.

Night??? Jeez, what time do you knock off? Oh yeah, you work for the council, don't you?

Yes I'm a council jobsworth you know.  :laugh:

I knocked off early yesterday, so I could take my daughter out for tea and then Trick or Treating.  I normally finish around 6pm but was under pressure strict instructions that I had to do 'Halloween'.   Flexitime is a great thing ;-) not to mention all the 'in leiu' time I have accrued from sitting in council meetings that go on till 10pm.  :tongue:  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CraigW on 01 November 2016, 10:30
I took a few pics of the car as I was leaving work tonight.

Night??? Jeez, what time do you knock off? Oh yeah, you work for the council, don't you?

Yes I'm a council jobsworth you know.  :laugh:

I knocked off early yesterday, so I could take my daughter out for tea and then Trick or Treating.  I normally finish around 6pm but was under pressure strict instructions that I had to do 'Halloween'.   Flexitime is a great thing ;-) not to mention all the 'in leiu' time I have accrued from sitting in council meetings that go on till 10pm.  :tongue:  :grin:

It's more like in loo time for most of the guys I work with  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: GTI_Ant on 01 November 2016, 21:29
It looks immaculate :drool:.  What's your trick for not having anyone park next to it? :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 01 November 2016, 21:45
It looks immaculate :drool:.  What's your trick for not having anyone park next to it? :smiley:

I have a device that emits an invisible force field around it and a massive sign that says "I have a dashcam, so if you so much as breath on my car I will know about it, and I will hunt you down and ....".  Does the trick.

Joking aside, I park right at the top of the car park which is on a hill and most of my colleagues are too lazy to walk up to the top, preferring to park lower down in the infamous door ding zone.  I used to be one of the only cars in that row, but appear to have set a hot hatch trend, as I now have a Fiesta ST, a RenaultSport and the occasional Civic Type R that keep me company.  There is an unspoken agreement that we leave a space between us.  However things don't always go according to plan, and now and then some interloper will venture up the hill and break the golden rule.  And it spells disaster - one of these occasions earlier this year, resulted in me having to take a trip to the bodyshop to get the bumper partially resprayed after some idiot kindly scraped it all coming out of their space - they never owned up.  This and a few other damage incidents courtesy of others, led me to get front and rear dash cams.  And a few weeks ago the Fiesta ST had a big dent put in his door by someone - he was NOT happy. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: GTI_Ant on 02 November 2016, 20:44
It looks immaculate :drool:.  What's your trick for not having anyone park next to it? :smiley:

I have a device that emits an invisible force field around it and a massive sign that says "I have a dashcam, so if you so much as breath on my car I will know about it, and I will hunt you down and ....".  Does the trick.

Joking aside, I park right at the top of the car park which is on a hill and most of my colleagues are too lazy to walk up to the top, preferring to park lower down in the infamous door ding zone.  I used to be one of the only cars in that row, but appear to have set a hot hatch trend, as I now have a Fiesta ST, a RenaultSport and the occasional Civic Type R that keep me company.  There is an unspoken agreement that we leave a space between us.  However things don't always go according to plan, and now and then some interloper will venture up the hill and break the golden rule.  And it spells disaster - one of these occasions earlier this year, resulted in me having to take a trip to the bodyshop to get the bumper partially resprayed after some idiot kindly scraped it all coming out of their space - they never owned up.  This and a few other damage incidents courtesy of others, led me to get front and rear dash cams.  And a few weeks ago the Fiesta ST had a big dent put in his door by someone - he was NOT happy.

That's really awful, especially considering it could be someone you work with.  Maybe try and get them to put cctv in the car park.  I always avoid parking next to 4x4s but you can't stop them moving in when you've parked up.  I saw a woman recently loading a child into the back seat of her massive tractor, using the car next to her as a backstop for the door.  It's criminal damage if unreported.
Title: Re: Thoughts on
Post by: Booth11 on 02 November 2016, 21:19
It looks immaculate :drool:.  What's your trick for not having anyone park next to it? :smiley:

I have a device that emits an invisible force field around it and a massive sign that says "I have a dashcam, so if you so much as breath on my car I will know about it, and I will hunt you down and ....".  Does the trick.

Joking aside, I park right at the top of the car park which is on a hill and most of my colleagues are too lazy to walk up to the top, preferring to park lower down in the infamous door ding zone.  I used to be one of the only cars in that row, but appear to have set a hot hatch trend, as I now have a Fiesta ST, a RenaultSport and the occasional Civic Type R that keep me company.  There is an unspoken agreement that we leave a space between us.  However things don't always go according to plan, and now and then some interloper will venture up the hill and break the golden rule.  And it spells disaster - one of these occasions earlier this year, resulted in me having to take a trip to the bodyshop to get the bumper partially resprayed after some idiot kindly scraped it all coming out of their space - they never owned up.  This and a few other damage incidents courtesy of others, led me to get front and rear dash cams.  And a few weeks ago the Fiesta ST had a big dent put in his door by someone - he was NOT happy.

That's really awful, especially considering it could be someone you work with.  Maybe try and get them to put cctv in the car park.  I always avoid parking next to 4x4s but you can't stop them moving in when you've parked up.  I saw a woman recently loading a child into the back seat of her massive tractor, using the car next to her as a backstop for the door.  It's criminal damage if unreported.

The car park has CCTV but unfortunately it doesn't cover the upper reaches of the site where I park, and even in the areas it does cover , when the dividing hedges are in full leaf they don't capture everything :-( I had them send out and email to all 300 plus staff, in which it stated that 'dent and run' is a criminal offence. 

I know what you mean about 4x4s, I park well away from them on the school run.  Much rather park further away and walk to avoid the scourge of them.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: wigit on 02 November 2016, 21:34
Good to see the 4wd being put to use on the grass pavers
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 05 November 2016, 12:36
Quickie thread update.

Got these to go on soon, to replace the plastic dealer plates.  Hope they will give a nice clean look to the car, plus add a touch of character and distinction.

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 November 2016, 12:51
^ I bet they are a bugger to clean - which you'll probably love as a challenge!  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 05 November 2016, 12:55
^ I bet they are a bugger to clean - which you'll probably love as a challenge!  :grin:

No cleaning challenge is too great. Especially as they will never be allowed to get too dirty. Bilberry Wheel Cleaner and a Wheel Woolie is my friend here.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 11 November 2016, 11:58
Fitted my new pressed plates this morning.  Really pleased with them, big improvement on the old plastic plate, they give a sharper, cleaner and uncluttered look and add a touch more character to the car. 

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Rhyso on 11 November 2016, 15:11
 :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 11 November 2016, 15:49
Fitted my new pressed plates this morning.  Really pleased with them, big improvement on the old plastic plate, they give a sharper, cleaner and uncluttered look and add a touch more character to the car. 

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They look good Rebecca, just not for me.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Damion on 11 November 2016, 17:07
They look good, just add the stickers in the middle, the Wolfsburg one is nice
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 11 November 2016, 17:46
Night shots

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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 11 November 2016, 17:49
:cool: :cool: :cool:

Cheers Rhyso.  :smiley:

They look good Rebecca, just not for me.

Cheers kalimon. :smiley:  I really like them but get that they are not everyone's cup of tea.

They look good, just add the stickers in the middle, the Wolfsburg one is nice

Thanks.  I prefer without stickers, nice clean look.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 11 November 2016, 18:48
Night shots

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I know I'm biased, but the performance Golf have got to be some of the best looking cars to be stuck behind at night.
How cool are them rear lights  :cool:
For me, much better than solid led strips :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 11 November 2016, 20:56

I know I'm biased, but the performance Golf have got to be some of the best looking cars to be stuck behind at night.
How cool are them rear lights  :cool:
For me, much better than solid led strips :wink:

Very cool, lol.  I agree wholeheartedly. I much prefer the current lights to the solid leds. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 November 2016, 15:05
I’ve had my R a full week now, and whilst it’s still early days, thought I post (quite) a few observations on the car. 

Starting with….

Drive:

Bloody brilliant!  Early days, but has exceeded my expectations already. 

Handling is taught, sharp, precise, and responsive.  The chassis is stiff and agile.  Planted and super grippy, it’s a much lighter and more engaging drive than I was anticipating.  It still delivers the fun with plenty of aplomb, but without any unwelcome drama, and with a markedly different personality to a GTI.  Begs to be driven hard, in and out of the bends. Good turn in and less understeer than I was expecting.  Must say the turning circle is noticeably bigger, requiring a change of habit in regular, familiar scenarios such as parking on my driveway, but already adjusting to it.

The  power is addictive and eagerly available when you call upon it.  Plenty of torque throughout the range for smooth, reliable and consistent acceleration.  In terms of accessing the power – I do like the top mounted throttle pedal which I was a little reticent about, after years of floor mounted throttle pedals.  Throttle response could be a little snappier, you do need to put some effort to get the response.

DSG – great as always, that seductive sound of it moving through the gear changes.  I was converted 7 years ago and no going back now.  This generation has none of the jerkiness in S of the previous version.  However as always in D goes up through the gears too quickly, and in S hangs onto the gears a touch too long.  Fine if you are solo, but get some funny looks from passengers wondering why the engine is snarling away, lol.!  Something in between would be perfect, but that's where Manual and the paddles come in.  Just wish the paddles had a bit more presence to them.  Am looking at extensions.

Driver Profiles - trying out the various ones, and switch between them depending on mood.  Only one I haven’t spent any time in is Eco.  I’m mainly using Individual with this setup:

DCC - Sport (occasionally Normal)
Steering - Sport
Drive – Normal or Sport
ACC - Normal
Interior engine sound - Eco
Aircon – Normal
Dynamic lighting – Sport

Soundaktor – always controversial and divisive, but with the now ability to alter the volume in Individual mode,  it’s absolutely acceptable at Eco setting, not intrusive and does not interfere or detract from the Dynaudio.  But, still great to have the option to have fake noise should the mood take me.  Real engine noise and exhaust note - sublime!  Can't get enough of that growl and pop.

Tech:

Keyless  - a breeze to use.  Was worried beforehand that it might be hit and miss, and I might end up leaving the car unlocked, but it's really very simple.  Love it.  And only a couple of times have I gone to put a key in the non existent ignition.  A convert to the Start and Stop Engine button.

ACC - yet to use this but plans to do so on a winter trip to Yorkshire.

DCC – as expected. 

E-brake/Autohold – took about an hour to be won over by this. 

Stop/Start - don't mind it at times, but adds a nanosecond too much time to pulling away for my liking, so gets switched off when I remember (town driving).

Front Assist - had only a couple of warnings but no braking intervention as yet.  Either I’m a better driver than I thought, or it doesn’t  work, lol.

Parking sensors and rear camera.  Handy at times, but could live without them, still like to use my own judgement.

There’s a lot of new-ish tech, compared to my previous car, and where it properly aids the driver, without becoming a hindrance, it is very, very good.

Interior:

I think the black piano gloss is very nice, but it is a mega dust magnet.  I have a microfibre always to hand to keep the dust at bay, and just as well.  Though I like the dark cabin, I think a few more blue trim accents would have made it a bit more special.  So to introduce a bit more colour I’m swapping the harsh white footwell lights for some blue LEDs.  The illuminated blue door and sill strips are a nice feature, though the sill guards themselves are not up to that job, is I’m ordering some additional guards.

Surprisingly I like the headrests.  Was a massive fan of the older style that wrapped over the top of the seat, so was rather disappointed to see they had changed them.  But in the flesh new style ones really suit the car.  Like the R logo on them.

The MiB2 unit -  is great, the larger screen really finishes off the cabin, screen resolution is good.  The touchscreen is miles better than older generations which were very temperamental and clunky.  Discover Pro Nav - used it on the recent Windsor trip.  Very impressed.  CarPlay works well.  Yet to try the Mirror link and Car-net App Connect.

Dynaudio – just excellent.  Head and shoulders above previous gen, even in its yet to be burned-in state, it’s very, very good.  Will be superb after about 60 hours.  Money well spent.

Steering wheel, thinner than my previous, but I like it a lot.  Except I find the button placement is not quite as intuitive as old style.  Ergonomics slightly off, and I miss the mute button of old which is absent this time round. The dials are lovely as are the blue needles.  Found the indicator/wiper stalks a bit flimsy at first but got used to them now.

Centre console is well designed apart from the Mode button / StopStart button / ESP button, which are poorly positioned on left and hard to see - would be much better on the right side the gear stick, but guess thats a result of it being a LHD design throwback. Cup holders - great and the 'claw' feature very useful for securely gripping cups. Rear cup holders much better located in the load through arm rest.

Window buttons - not as ergonomically perfect as in a Mk6 (angled) but small price to pay for the other improvements.

Prefer the faux carbon trim on gearstick, doors and around dash to previous trim, looks more premium compared to the my old trim which was a bit incongruous.  This is much more in-keeping style-wise with the rest of the car.

Love the leather seats and white stitching. But I can see it sagging quicker than the mk6 leather.  Preferred the lumbar 4 way rocker switch of old, as the basic handle control on the side of the seat seems crude and a step back, but cost cutting I guess.

Reduced boot space.  Significantly smaller, but just travel lighter.  Have crammed a a lot of my work gear around the wheel well.

On the whole I like the interior a lot, I would say it is an upgrade, plus it looks and feels distinctly different from the Mk6 which enhances the experience. 

Exterior:

Colour – you might be forgiven for thinking I might be bored with Deep Black Pearl after a fair few black Golfs, but no!  Very glad I chose it for the 7R as I think it looks stunning.  Yes you lose the contrast of the black accents, but gain a sleek, stealth look.  I like both the brushed silver wing mirrors and lip more than I thought I would, and they add just enough ‘interest’ without blinging or tarting it up to much.

Pretoria wheels (19”) – rumoured to have caused the long, long wait, but what can I say – worth it IMO.  A lovely wheel, like a lightweight motorsport wheel, adds an elegance to the car, which stops DBP, looking too heavy and clumpy.  Very easy to clean.

Tyres – ContiSportContact 5Ps – thank the Lord!  Have run these faultless tyres for last 3 years, and very, very pleased to get them on the R. 

Front end - the front end actually looks more aggressive in the flesh, and like the grill.  Bit sick of honeycomb grills after 3 GTIs, so a nice change.  Love the intakes and don't miss having fog lights.  love the double LED headlights.

Rear end  - absolutely love the smoked rear LEDs, especially against the black bodywork.  Quite surprised how little there is of the rear spoiler.  Assumed it would be of a similar size/depth to the mk6 but it's much shallower.  And, the black plastic side bits make it look even less prominent, but overall it suits the sharper shape of the car.  Love the gloss black rear diffuser.  Always hated the textured grey 6GTI one, but never got around to spraying it gloss black.

Exhausts - even though 4 exhausts are overkill for a 4cyl, I love them.  And I think this car needs something a bit showy at the rear to offset the subtlety of the front end.

Sides - The wing R badges - now I thought I was going to hate these, as was not keen on them in the pics, but, they seem to work on black.  Maybe because Deep Black doesn't have the contrast against the black grill and other black trim, the badges add something without it looking blingy.  Deeper side skirts are much better.

When I first saw the Mk7 exterior changes, I was not sold.  But now I've had it on my drive for just over a week, I'm definitely sold now!

Conclusion  - Awesome!!!  It’s a fantastic car.  A capable but utterly exhilarating drive, and still admirably practical on a daily basis. 

And here’s are the things I’m really glad I specced:

Dynaudio
DCC
Keyless
Discover Pro

Finally…..

Without a doubt the best car I've had to date (so far)!

Always intended to do a follow-up review to my initial review above.  So here it is....
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 November 2016, 15:09
Thoughts on my R, one year (ish) on…..

I’ve had my car just over a year now (year old on 1st Sept just gone) and had always intended to follow up my initial review with a bit of an update, see if my early observations have changed in the last 12 or so months and 8500 miles and a look back over the last few months and miles. 

Here’s one of the first pics shortly after collection.
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It’s been an eventful car year in many ways, good and bad. 

The Good:  I’ve done quite a few enhancements to my R to make it more ‘my own’.  The majority have been cosmetic tweaks (some with a practical purpose), with the exception of a Pedal Box and Dashcams, and all are documented and pictured in this thread so I’ll just list them:

•   Swapped white LED footwell lights to blue LEDs
•   Swapped Glovebox and boot light to white LED
•   Customised R logo deluxe mats from carmats2u
•   Lockwood R logo Door Sill Protectors
•   Aliexpress Replacement Footrest
•   DTUK Pedal Box
•   VW Boot liner
•   Audi 12V socket cover
•   Centre armrest storage tray
•   S2T (B3 Polished Black) Replacement DSG Paddle Shifters
•   Philips Diamond Vision 5000k Cornering Bulbs
•   Blackvue 650DR 2CH Front and Rear Dashcam
•   Pressed aluminum numberplates

Additionally, a fair amount of detailing has taken place over the months and miles and I’m pleased with how the car is looking now.  On the whole the Paintwork is in great shape - it’s got a few light swirls and a couple of hedge scratches that need polishing out but I’ll pick those up once it’s got through the winter months, and the interior is looking pretty good too, better than the day I picked it up. See many, many detailing threads/posts!

Luckily I have had no warranty issues with the car whatsoever either following collection or over the course of the year.  Very happy about that as it’s often luck of the draw with these things and many others have had their share of problems.

The Bad:  Despite being blessedly free from mechanical and warranty issues, the years’ ownership has not been without its problems - namely exterior damage – resulting from a number of separate incidents courtesy of, shall I politely say, the less careful motorist!   Because of this the car has had a couple of visits to the bodyshop to sort to put it back to pre f***tard condition.  The less than positive has been:

•   Dent and chip on passenger door crease – caused by someone parking next to me in a largely empty car park and then opening their door onto mine as I was sat in the car.  Repaired and resprayed at bodyshop

•   Scuffs (down to primer) on rear passenger wheel arch and bumper caused by unknown colleague in the works car park. Cost of both £300

•   Scratches to passenger door – caused by unknown colleague at work which bag or rucksack – polished these out myself.

•   Hit and run incident resulting in £3.5k worth of damage to the rear and passenger side of the car.  Full bodyshop repairs carried out - new bumper, repair and respray to wing/blending, wheel refurbishment (Lepsons), new tyres.

So a mixed bag of R ownership so far, but I will say that this has not put a dampener on my enthusiasm for the car which is greater than ever.  So here’s my current thoughts on it, in comparison to my initial review quoted above.

Drive:
Well it was good before, but it’s better now!  Superb.  Car initially started to just loosen around the 650-mile mark and now heading towards 9k miles is a beautiful fluid and ably agile drive.  Worth buying for the chassis alone which is the single best thing about this car.  Handling is as per my original review – unchanged.  Still as planted and grippy as ever, never skips a beat, always inspires total confidence in the corners at speed and on greasy, slippery road conditions - a good set of tyres helps no end of course (see tyres).  Despite many thinking that DSG is less involved drive than manual, every day I find the R such an engaging drive, you just engage in a different way.  Work with the gearbox and you will get the best out of it and love it.  It slips effortlessly from being a tame domestic nimble pussycat in city traffic, to serene sleek panther effortlessly and comfortably covering the motorway miles, to a provoked snarling tiger out in the open.  Add in Launch Control for those ‘let’s poke the tiger with a stick’ moments and you have the best of all worlds.

Have done a few launches now it's addictive and can’t let too much time go by inbetween them, lol.  Got used to the larger turning circle (over previous GTI) now, although still find that a pita at times.

So all has been perfect with the drive, well not quite.  The one thing that bothered me that I mentioned in my first review was the lack of snappiness of the throttle pedal – that infamous ‘dead inch’ of pedal travel to varying degrees in the different DSG modes.  Well it never got any better and I never became accustomed to it, and after a few months I found it very irritating and was really beginning to spoil my driving enjoyment, so I looked into the DTUK Pedal Box, asked for a few views and decided to get one. Fitting a DTUK Pedal Box was a defining moment in the cars ownership for me.  Transformed the throttle pedal, more response, more engagement, delivered the missing link and made R life complete.  Should be like that from the factory but it’s not, but a Pedal Box is a great resolution to an unacceptable (IMO) problem.

DSG:
Long time user of Golf DSG (7 years) so well acquainted and well versed in its nuances which means can just use it to it’s strengths most of the time.  As before - DSG box seamless on upshifts and downshifts, still none of the jerkiness of previous gen, though I know some have had issues with this.  I use all DSG modes – D-auto, D-manual, S-auto, S-manual depending on journey, roads, conditions and mood. My favoured mode of using DSG is S-manuals using the paddles.  I couldn’t tolerate the oem paddles for very long, so these gave way to a set of S2T replacement paddle shifters which have enhanced paddle shifting hugely.     

Driver Profiles – tried out various ones initially, but spend the majority of the time in Individual mode with choices as listed below.  Other than that, it’s Race mode when the mood strikes.  Never use Normal mode, and Eco has been used a couple of times out curiosity, and once by mistake when I accidentally knocked the mode button – wondered why the car felt like it was in slo-mo.   

DCC – Normal or Sport
Steering – Sport
Drive – Sport or Normal
ACC - Normal
Interior engine sound - Eco
Aircon – Normal
Dynamic cornering lighting – Sport

Soundaktor – 90% of the time in Eco (individual mode but every now and then I feel the urge for a bit of fakery so just stick it in Race.  Then when the vibrating dash has driven me mildly insane, back into Eco it goes.

Tech:

Keyless – I was an instant convert and still loving it a just as much a year on.  Keys stay in bag, no little scratches around door or on the steering column.  Would always want this now on future cars.  Not had any issues with it and after that initial ‘wing mirror dance’ when first washed it, keys now stay well away during detailing sessions.

ACC – used it a handful of times and haven’t had any heart in mouth sudden braking moments.  Most of my driving is urban/rural with occasional long trips up north so it’s gets to stretch its legs (or rather I do) on parts of the latter, but in all honesty I prefer to ‘drive’ the car myself without auto braking intervention.

DCC – having had this on previous car, it was as expected but an improvement over the previous generation and the differences between the modes more noticeable.  However, even on 19” Prets I very rarely use Comfort setting, only when my aging mum and dad are in the back, but they don’t seem to care so now it mainly stays in Normal mode or Sport regardless of who is in the car.  It is one option I could easily live without.

Electronic brake/Autohold – pre R, was a total sceptic and really not looking forward to it.  Won over on the trip home after picking up the car, and now think it is one of the very best features of the car. I have Autohold on all the time, and pretty much never have to touch the handbrake.  Brilliant piece of tech that IMO is truly a valuable driver aid and together are perfect companions.

Stop/Start – hate it, and it gets switched off every journey.  If I ever forget which I sometimes do, I am reminded at the first set of lights and off it goes.  Mine has never kicked in whilst still in motion like some seem to and I know wiggling the steering wheel or a light touch on the brake stops in kicking in but I dislike it intensely so much easier just to switch it off.  Must disable it via VCDS soon.

Front Assist – still not had any braking intervention but it has its moments (quite a few!), usually when a car some way in front is making a left turn.  I would say that most of the time it has triggered has been quite random and unnecessary.  It is of a nervous disposition. 

Parking sensors and rear camera - both do what they are supposed to do - useful but still out of habit use my eyes, mirrors for parking judgement, but they are helpful for lining up reversing into parking spaces.  Can through a few hissy fits at times but offers some mild amusement to passengers.

Interior:

General and trim - the gloss piano black actually not as much a dust or scratch magnet as I first feared.  You need to treat it gently but if you do and use a decent anti-static cleaner and treat it as if it is the skin of a baby then it’s all ok. I still really like the general cabin trim, in fact I really like the divisive gloss piano trim, despite its alleged Prima Donna-ish tendencies. 

As mentioned in my initial review, the interior lacked a little colour, so I remedied this by swapping the white LED footwell lights to Blue LED lights, added some blue edged, blue R logo deluxe car mats and that elevated the interior just enough for my liking. Also swapped the yellow oem bulbs in the glovebox and boot for bright white LEDs. Much better. 

The MIB2 unit – Have had the odd ‘black screen of death’ moment but managed to rehabilitate it with a reset.  No other issues and still very glad I specced the Pro version, as aside from other benefits, the larger screen does add a certain something to the cabin and the included App-connect is used on a daily basis over and above the in-built features.  Car-net on the other hand is the biggest waste of time.

Dynaudio – as before - just excellent, and one of the best options, both quality wise and value for money wise on offer, especially as part of Tech Pack (on offer at the time).  Always the first thing to tick on the options list and so glad I delayed my R order until it was available (wasn’t an option on very early R due to design and fit issues).  I’m a great listener of music in my car and this gives me pleasure every single journey. 

Steering wheel and steering wheel buttons - still miss the mute button of old but hardly a deal breaker.  Swapping the piddly plastic oem paddle shifters for a set of S2T replacement shifters was a seminal moment in my gear changing world!

Centre console – all still good apart from the placement of the Mode button / StopStart button / ESP button, being for LHD and all the blanks on the right hand side, both of which still annoy me.  Cup holders – still a good design but never used as I don’t’ have hot drinks in my car – not allowed.  Armrest storage has had the most minor addition of a tray tidy for coins etc, and replaced the lacklustre oem 12V cover with a part aluminium Audi one.  Makes such a difference, adds a whole 1bhp ;-)

Leather interior - is not the greatest quality and the driver’s seat has sagged more in one year than my Mk6 one did in three years, but the rest of the seats are fine.  But otherwise still glad I have leather and never really experience the sweaty in summer, freezing in winter that many people state.

Reduced boot space - not been an issue, happily takes my work stuff, mobile detailing kit and the rest of the family’s junk when needs be, oh and a few bags of shopping too if I talk nicely to it.  Fitted a VW bootliner which helps keep things clean and is easy to take out and shake off.  Use my old mk6 cargo net to secure stuff in place if required.

Exterior:

Colour – Deep Black Pearl – still love it, absolutely no regrets.  DBP clean - is a thing of true beauty - reflections, reflections, reflections.  DBP dirty – is a labour of love, fortunately I’m fond of a bit of detailing so not a big deal.  If hadn’t picked DBP, would have go Reflex Silver which IMO is a very special colour in R form. 

Pretoria wheels (19”) – for me something that makes the car visually.  Especially on DBP which might otherwise look a bit too heavy with Cadiz wheels.  And the ride is not compromised on the 19’s.  Prets are of the best things about the car, EXCEPT, being a pain to clean, but tbh, nothing a set of Wheel Woolies, a WoWo wheel mitt and a decent wheel cleaner and sealant can’t sort.

Miraculously I managed to get through the first year of ownership without kissing the kerbs (unheard of for me with diamond cut wheels), I put much of that down to the fact the wheel sits slightly further back in the tyre, oh and that I park about 3 feet away from every kerb.  But fate decided that one of my beloved Prets was not to make it to first birthday without some excitement and the rear passenger wheel sustained some damage in the recent transit-van-gate accident and subsequently was refurbished by Lepsons  who did a top notch job, both on repair and colour match.   

Hubs on the other hand have partially succumbed to the dreaded rust.  Started a few months in but hasn’t really got too much worse, but annoying.  Never had this issue on my previous GTI, but common problem on the Mk7 hubs.  Need to sort with some Hammerite Hi-temp paint in spring.

Tyres - Conti 5Ps excellent tyre in wet and dry.  Had them on previous car and have not disappointed on the R.  When time to change would have maybe gone for Conti 6 or Michelin PSS for a change, but have recently had to have 2 new rears due to aforementioned hit and run, so will stick with them (literally) for time being.

Rear end – sexy bum!  Love it as much as at first sight, actually more now as it’s glossier (most of the time).

Exhausts – get through a fair amount of Mothers Mag & Aluminium Polish but they are worth it.

Sides – still like the wing badges.  They catch on microfibres when sealing and waxing but a minor point. I know some prefer to debadge these for a cleaner look but I like the identity they give the car. They will be staying.

To conclude  – Yep, I still like it quite a lot.  I think aesthetically it lacks a little character, but the chassis, handling and drive make up for that in spades.  Still pound for pound the best allrounder IMO and looking forward to the next 12 months and xxx miles, though hopefully without any of the unwanted drama and unsolicited visits to the bodyshop.

Here’s the things I said I was really glad I specced in my initial review:

Dynaudio
Keyless
Discover Pro + App connect

And here’s the things I’m really glad I specced one year-ish on:

Dynaudio
Keyless
Discover Pro + App connect

And, if I could still only choose one option it would by Dynaudio – best VFM option and enjoyed every trip.  And if I had to lose one option it would be DCC - has it’s uses but I wouldn’t miss it.

Finally…..

Still – “without a doubt the best car I've had to date”

Oh, and I forgot to mention mpg.  Ah, it's an R, who cares.  :grin:

Black beauty…
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A few mod highlights…

Blue Footwell LEDs

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Lockwood door sill protectors
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S2T paddle shifters
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Carmats2u R logo car mats
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Aliexpress replacement footrest
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VW bootliner from ebay
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DTUK Pedal Box
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Audi 12V cover
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Armrest tray tidy
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And the very latest additions……

Blackvue Dashcam
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Cornering lights
From this
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To this
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Europl8 Pressed Aluminium numberplates
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Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 14 November 2016, 15:35
Brilliant little update Rebecca!
I'm still not entirely convinced that all the pictures you post are aren't photo shopped. No car can be THAT shiny :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 November 2016, 15:49
Brilliant little update Rebecca!
I'm still not entirely convinced that all the pictures you post are aren't photo shopped. No car can be THAT shiny :laugh: :kiss:

Cheek! I can assure they are not photoshopped. :tongue:  The only editing that takes place is editing out the registration number and the occasional tweak of contrast/light if the conditions have been very sunny, and that's only on the odd few.  I don't believe in posting pics that have been photoshopped to unrealistic proportions, or HDR pics, what's the poin in that? Many of my pics are to demonstrate the finish and quality of detailing products and so they need to be as close to reality as can be. A decent camera and a bit of time to get it right in-camera, makes a lot of difference :smiley:

So, yes, it really is that shiny.....well not today, but most of the time.  :wink:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 14 November 2016, 15:56
Brilliant little update Rebecca!
I'm still not entirely convinced that all the pictures you post are aren't photo shopped. No car can be THAT shiny :laugh: :kiss:

Cheek! I can assure they are not photoshopped. :tongue:  The only editing that takes place is editing out the registration number and the occasional tweak of contrast/light if the conditions have been very sunny, and that's only on the odd few.  I don't believe in posting pics that have been photoshopped to unrealistic proportions, or HDR pics, what's the poin in that? Many of my pics are to demonstrate the finish and quality of detailing products and so they need to be as close to reality as can be. A decent camera and a bit of time to get it right in-camera, makes a lot of difference :smiley:

So, yes, it really is that shiny.....well not today, but most of the time.  :wink:
If you say so :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Hertsman on 14 November 2016, 16:00
Really good one year review Rebecca, and given lived with my GTD for three years and was as impressed with it as when received, not too surprising the R is a car that still gives.

One observation on DCC, is that these version 2 dampers are active in all modes, so as much as you do not select 'comfort' you are getting the benefit of the DCC in all modes regardless.

My colleagues vanilla GTI is definitely a little harder in his normal than the normal with DCC.

But will caveat that by stating that ride is acceptable but definitely firmer (have been the passenger many times, he now has R envy though)

One other observation was you never mentioned economy once which imagine just says you have really embraced the "it is what it is" attitudes :)

Individual is now my stock mode setting with engine sound on Eco, the R makes such lovely noises of its own (when drop into S on the DSG) without drowning them, and the soundaktor does grind on you when just moving around in traffic.

Race is always only a second or two away as you state and therein lies the beauty of the car in how you can shape it to your day and mood and not vice versa.

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 November 2016, 17:34
Really good one year review Rebecca, and given lived with my GTD for three years and was as impressed with it as when received, not too surprising the R is a car that still gives.

One observation on DCC, is that these version 2 dampers are active in all modes, so as much as you do not select 'comfort' you are getting the benefit of the DCC in all modes regardless.

My colleagues vanilla GTI is definitely a little harder in his normal than the normal with DCC.

But will caveat that by stating that ride is acceptable but definitely firmer (have been the passenger many times, he now has R envy though)

One other observation was you never mentioned economy once which imagine just says you have really embraced the "it is what it is" attitudes :)

Individual is now my stock mode setting with engine sound on Eco, the R makes such lovely noises of its own (when drop into S on the DSG) without drowning them, and the soundaktor does grind on you when just moving around in traffic.

Race is always only a second or two away as you state and therein lies the beauty of the car in how you can shape it to your day and mood and not vice versa.

Yes it definitely still gives.  :smiley:

I know the DCC is adaptive in all modes (also had previous gen on my mk6 GTI), and constantly adjusting to driving style/conditions etc, so am aware of its additional benefits over just softening ride etc in comfort, but even taking that into account, it's still think it would be something I could easily live without. I have driven and been a passenger in a friends non DCC mk7 GTD several times, and know that it's an option that I would not massively miss.  If my budget was restricted it would be the thing I would drop over the other things.  I like a firm suspension.  :smiley:

I didn't mention economy more through oversight than anything else, lol, but you are quite correct, it doesn't bother me in the slightest.  My average mpg in previous mk6 GTI wasn't great so no great shock that the R is what it is, which is low - varies between 19/20mpg and 23/24mpg depending on time of year (school term traffic versus schools hols traffic here makes a marked difference).  Whilst many do return reasonable mpg figures, IMO, you don't get an R is you are overly concerned with mpg.  And I'm not.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 November 2016, 17:37
Brilliant little update Rebecca!
I'm still not entirely convinced that all the pictures you post are aren't photo shopped. No car can be THAT shiny :laugh: :kiss:

Cheek! I can assure they are not photoshopped. :tongue:  The only editing that takes place is editing out the registration number and the occasional tweak of contrast/light if the conditions have been very sunny, and that's only on the odd few.  I don't believe in posting pics that have been photoshopped to unrealistic proportions, or HDR pics, what's the poin in that? Many of my pics are to demonstrate the finish and quality of detailing products and so they need to be as close to reality as can be. A decent camera and a bit of time to get it right in-camera, makes a lot of difference :smiley:

So, yes, it really is that shiny.....well not today, but most of the time.  :wink:
If you say so :whistle:

I'm sorry you doubt my word kalimon :huh: but I'm not in the habit of telling porkies.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 14 November 2016, 17:45
Brilliant little update Rebecca!
I'm still not entirely convinced that all the pictures you post are aren't photo shopped. No car can be THAT shiny :laugh: :kiss:

Cheek! I can assure they are not photoshopped. :tongue:  The only editing that takes place is editing out the registration number and the occasional tweak of contrast/light if the conditions have been very sunny, and that's only on the odd few.  I don't believe in posting pics that have been photoshopped to unrealistic proportions, or HDR pics, what's the poin in that? Many of my pics are to demonstrate the finish and quality of detailing products and so they need to be as close to reality as can be. A decent camera and a bit of time to get it right in-camera, makes a lot of difference :smiley:

So, yes, it really is that shiny.....well not today, but most of the time.  :wink:
If you say so :whistle:

I'm sorry you doubt my word kalimon :huh: but I'm not in the habit of telling porkies.
I don't,  I was joking :smiley:
Must have got lost in translation
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 14 November 2016, 17:55
I don't,  I was joking :smiley:
Must have got lost in translation

It did get lost in translation.  :smiley:

Glad my integrity remains in tact. Phew!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Hertsman on 14 November 2016, 18:50
Really good one year review Rebecca, and given lived with my GTD for three years and was as impressed with it as when received, not too surprising the R is a car that still gives.

One observation on DCC, is that these version 2 dampers are active in all modes, so as much as you do not select 'comfort' you are getting the benefit of the DCC in all modes regardless.

My colleagues vanilla GTI is definitely a little harder in his normal than the normal with DCC.

But will caveat that by stating that ride is acceptable but definitely firmer (have been the passenger many times, he now has R envy though)

One other observation was you never mentioned economy once which imagine just says you have really embraced the "it is what it is" attitudes :)

Individual is now my stock mode setting with engine sound on Eco, the R makes such lovely noises of its own (when drop into S on the DSG) without drowning them, and the soundaktor does grind on you when just moving around in traffic.

Race is always only a second or two away as you state and therein lies the beauty of the car in how you can shape it to your day and mood and not vice versa.

Yes it definitely still gives.  :smiley:

I know the DCC is adaptive in all modes (also had previous gen on my mk6 GTI), and constantly adjusting to driving style/conditions etc, so am aware of its additional benefits over just softening ride etc in comfort, but even taking that into account, it's still think it would be something I could easily live without. I have driven and been a passenger in a friends non DCC mk7 GTD several times, and know that it's an option that I would not massively miss.  If my budget was restricted it would be the thing I would drop over the other things.  I like a firm suspension.  :smiley:

I didn't mention economy more through oversight than anything else, lol, but you are quite correct, it doesn't bother me in the slightest.  My average mpg in previous mk6 GTI wasn't great so no great shock that the R is what it is, which is low - varies between 19/20mpg and 23/24mpg depending on time of year (school term traffic versus schools hols traffic here makes a marked difference).  Whilst many do return reasonable mpg figures, IMO, you don't get an R is you are overly concerned with mpg.  And I'm not.  :smiley:

This is where the personal element comes in as other than when driving spiritedly my wish is for a softer ride on the local drive (Been programme of road repairs over last couple of years in my area so not the potted mess it once was)

Came from two S Line on the pure S Line suspension and though once loved that firm ride too, it did actually wear on me the second time around.

So given my penchant now is more for supple ride on the daily moving around its likely where we differ.

23.1 MPG was my last £60 of Momentum (£1.17) which was predominately local runs, so given that and with engine only at 600 miles pretty happy and can still see 30's when runs truly mixed.

But its more curiosity now, as did not bat and eyelid on last fill, just did it and drove off.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 December 2016, 13:44
Latest micro mod - fitted the Badgeskins sun visor stickers to cover the garish airbag labels.

Absolutely love them, perfect cover-up for the nasty garish white and yellow airbag stickers - banished at last.  The Badgeskins stickers are nicely subtle and superb quality.  Very easy to fit, I just followed the instructions from their website, making sure the area was thoroughly clean with IPA, I already had some but they include a couple of wipes in the pack.  The badgeskins are supposed to be applied in temps no lower than 15 degrees, so I switched the engine on and heated the car up to about 18 degrees before fitting them.  After much deliberation and sitting in the driver’s seat with the labels temporarily tacked on, I decided to fit the one on the folded side of the visor so that it was the right way from the drivers field of vision.  The right choice.  Few pics...

Sun visor pulled down

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5565/31307396730_905fbe1445_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PGwAjf)

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5701/31679747725_51eb795e15_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QgqZhZ)

Sun visor folded up

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/717/30869745353_0afd4cd69c_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P2RvNR)

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5540/31564351631_c548fd7696_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q6ey4a)

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/575/31307388700_c4cf38e0c1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PGwxVN)

Field of vision from driver’s seat

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/723/31533765482_698247daff_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q3wMRL)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5572/31307381280_bdcd288d1c_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PGwvHS)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/403/30838640734_60f5514555_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NZ76uj)

Fitting instuctions http://www.badgeskins.com/how-to---visor-badgeskin-application.html

Badge skins sun visor stickers - correct size for Golf  http://www.badgeskins.com/store/p161/VW_-_12273_-_Visor_warning_label_badgekin_set.html
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Watts on 16 December 2016, 15:27
I was sceptical when you first posted about these but actually they door look very good. Those airbag signs ard annoying but I must say I don't notice them too much? Are they easily removeable do you know?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 16 December 2016, 15:32
I was sceptical when you first posted about these but actually they door look very good. Those airbag signs ard annoying but I must say I don't notice them too much? Are they easily removeable do you know?

They look much better than I was expecting.  I don't know how easy to remove but I should think they would be easy enough with a bit of IPA to loosen.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Raffe on 17 December 2016, 10:30
I don't know how easy to remove but I should think they would be easy enough with a bit of IPA to loosen.

The chaps on the BMW F30 forum remove the oem stickers by laying a piece of kitchen roll soaked in IPA (not the beer) and then wrapped in cling  film and they seem to lift off easily.

Think the badge skins look bang on though, like the contrast of matt/gloss  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 December 2016, 17:27
If those badge skins are a bugger to get off, are there any requirements for the info under them to be visible - e.g. would you fail an MOT with these stickers in place, or are VW just being super-responsible by placing them in the first place?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: phazer on 17 December 2016, 18:00
No MOT requirement just the usual over egging of safety to protect the dense from themselves  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 18 December 2016, 14:59
The sticker looks really good Ms B  :smiley:
Simple but effective and definitely the right colour and finish combo.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 June 2017, 10:12
Yesterday I swapped this
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170622/85735f0256ac196544a5455f92cc82d6.jpg)
 
For this version
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170622/338b9918f1d889556cb5bbc37cdcc3e5.jpg)
 
It's better quality and deeper, I prefer it. 
 
I also got these:
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/fbdd5d792cab643a833f22e1cb2d2a14.jpg)
 
Hmm, undecided but about them.  :undecided:
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/70370b2bae0cd3f1e1c4a03b50589718.jpg)
 
Which unexpectedly came with this lot!
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/e1119dc9be8f4ba2194bfd8158a8a86d.jpg)
 
Most of which will never be used, however I did find a use for the L-shaped mat - to line the driver's cubby that holds the pedal box controller, to eliminate rattling.  I usually wrap the controller in a microfibre but this looks better.  Used a few Velcro dots bottom and top to keep in place.
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/425f5c4f8a1db56964c93f2a9c830f5f.jpg)
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/cb09700e67281e927ab7b8f5ed8f724f.jpg)
 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/c63f1d85e6a152a68d4bd381150aa538.jpg)
 
The others will be used as padding for any future rattles.
 
 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 23 June 2017, 12:20
That's a lot of R's

I was thinking of flocking the little cubbybox. On the CC it is covered, amazing how they penny pinch on the smaller car.

I keep my pedal box controller and OBDeleven in there but they don't rattle, surprising because most of the rest of the car had rattles.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: eatontrifles on 23 June 2017, 12:47
Yesterday I swapped this

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170622/85735f0256ac196544a5455f92cc82d6.jpg)

What have you done with the original? I can offer some beer tokens to prevent it taking up space in landfill...
Didn't even know they existed TBH, where do they come from?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 23 June 2017, 12:59
Rebecca, you have now finally gone too far  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 23 June 2017, 13:18
Yesterday I swapped this

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170622/85735f0256ac196544a5455f92cc82d6.jpg)

What have you done with the original? I can offer some beer tokens to prevent it taking up space in landfill...
Didn't even know they existed TBH, where do they come from?

Car Armrest Storage Box Glove Box Partitions Tray For VW Golf 7 MK7 2014-2016 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M68FCXM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5zqtzb2736SE0
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 June 2017, 13:23
What have you done with the original? I can offer some beer tokens to prevent it taking up space in landfill...
Didn't even know they existed TBH, where do they come from?

I'm afraid someone else has first dibs on the outgoing one but if they decide not to take it, it's your FOC. 

Can be purchased as per IWGTI link.  The R one also from eBay.  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122511460118
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 June 2017, 13:28
Rebecca, you have now finally gone too far  :grin:

 :laugh: I know!  :grin:

The only bits that I'm keeping are the armrest storage, as it's actually much better quality than the other one, and pad in the driver's cubby for practical purposes - both are out of view so the oem outward staid germanic boringness of the cabin, remains unchanged.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: eatontrifles on 23 June 2017, 14:15
Car Armrest Storage Box Glove Box Partitions Tray For VW Golf 7 MK7 2014-2016 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M68FCXM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5zqtzb2736SE0
Fab, thanks!  :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: eatontrifles on 23 June 2017, 14:17
Car Armrest Storage Box Glove Box Partitions Tray For VW Golf 7 MK7 2014-2016 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M68FCXM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5zqtzb2736SE0
Fab, thanks!  :cool:
Stupid question probably - the armrest is the same on a 7.5 as a 7, right?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 June 2017, 16:27
Car Armrest Storage Box Glove Box Partitions Tray For VW Golf 7 MK7 2014-2016 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M68FCXM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_5zqtzb2736SE0
Fab, thanks!  :cool:
Stupid question probably - the armrest is the same on a 7.5 as a 7, right?

Yes.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 June 2017, 16:49
@eatontrifles - sorry but the armrest cubby has been snapped up by the guy who had first refusal on it. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 23 June 2017, 17:43
That's a fine collection of R cubby mats Ms B.
You'll not run out of coasters in the house for a while  :whistle:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 June 2017, 17:57
That's a fine collection of R cubby mats Ms B.
You'll not run out of coasters in the house for a while  :whistle:

I can tell you if I so much as suggested that use at home, they would be instantly confiscated, and rightly so.   :grin:

I thought I was only getting the two circle mats for the cupholders.  When I got home from work I wondered why the package was so long, then out fell R rubber mats galore. I might slip one of two under the washing machine right leg as it's gone a bit wonky and after a spin, can be found at the other side of the utility room from whence it started, so a rubber mat might just keep it still.  :laugh:

Ironically I don't like the cupholder mats.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 23 June 2017, 18:44
What have you done with the original? I can offer some beer tokens to prevent it taking up space in landfill...
Didn't even know they existed TBH, where do they come from?

I'm afraid someone else has first dibs on the outgoing one but if they decide not to take it, it's your FOC. 

Can be purchased as per IWGTI link.  The R one also from eBay.  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122511460118

After looking at the eBay link where you got yours I found out that I also needed one because obviously where else do you keep your money in a car :grin:

(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj564/Noghtblue-GTD/8CB27B80-8066-4248-B592-8DC245E0FB49_zps8aamm3rw.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/Noghtblue-GTD/media/8CB27B80-8066-4248-B592-8DC245E0FB49_zps8aamm3rw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 23 June 2017, 19:04
Mine is mainly used to store all my 10 year old daughter's junk (hairbands, lip balm, sweets, notepads etc, etc, that I refuse to have cluttering up the rest of the cabin and anything in door pockets, other than microfibres and a Glliptone air freshener, is a no-no.

Underneath it is where I keep my drugs.  :kiss:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 August 2017, 12:58
Collected my car from Lepsons this morning.  Another amazing Prets refurb job by them.  2 kerbed Prets refurbished. One was rear n/s, other was front o/s, but both now refurbed and put on same side (n/s), and sealed.  Finish is better than factory.  Colour match (Blue Chrome) is spot on again.  Absolutely top notch service. 

Before

(https://s28.postimg.org/xc1ue7k99/IMG_5635.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qlld4rx3d/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/uj8mu6jwt/IMG_5636.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/aoml824p5/)


After

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4439/35984369533_2f9b37a295_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WPPion)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4362/36793423055_9456a26ee1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Y4iUP2)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4399/36746087386_de40a7d699_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XZ8iyN)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4437/36654209511_cbdff8c840_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XR1ptv)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4399/36746087386_de40a7d699_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XZ8iyN)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4389/35958818754_e455160e69_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WMym2G)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4434/36654242081_4bb4b86a2d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XR1za4)
 
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4400/35984386583_d52e151da8_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WPPosk)

And then..

New rubber...

Out with the old…..Conti 5P

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4403/36746116416_e1827d5d55_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XZ8scj)

In with the new….Michelin PS4S

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4369/36623232822_a264b193c2_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XNgDbE)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4425/35984374103_05ae89b2cb_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WPPjKa)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4351/36654221511_b41731239f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XR1t3p)
 
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4386/36793443645_f1bae51fd1_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Y4j1W2)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4357/35958855724_6fbaa1b6f8_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WMyx27)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4388/36794186765_d13582240b_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Y4nPQr)

Tyres fitted by Lepsons Tyres, and a great job done, Michelin logo on all 4 lined up.

Early days  - done about 40 miles on the new tyres today and still need scrubbing/bedding in - but some notable differences already.  Noticeably quieter than the Conti 5Ps especially on the motorway, and the ride is less harsh and more forgiving (using same DCC setting in Sport).  They feel quite different to the 5Ps and in a very very good way.  The only way I can describe it is that they feel absolutely one with the road, as if the tyres and car are a true extension of the road.  They afford a little less rim protection than the 5P's as the Prets don't sit as far back, so will have to be ultra careful, but really looking forward to getting to know these tyres. 

 
Just need to get the hubs painted now.

 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: kalimon on 25 August 2017, 13:04
They look excellent Rebecca, now just stop kerbing them in the first place :kiss:
Ps
I think you have achieved the best shine/reflection I have ever seen....and I'm not even joking!!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 August 2017, 13:14
They look excellent Rebecca, now just stop kerbing them in the first place :kiss:
Ps
I think you have achieved the best shine/reflection I have ever seen....and I'm not even joking!!

Thanks Kalimon. :smiley:  To be fair this is the first self inflicted kerbing of my Prets (previously repaired damage was done in crash). It's a record for me to go nearly 2 years without kerbing a wheel.  :laugh:

Car was washed on Monday but has been undercover most of the week so still clean(wish) that's a job that doesn't need doing this weekend. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: SRGTD on 25 August 2017, 13:21
Car looks great Rebecca and a top notch refurb job by Lessons. Your car looks way better than pretty much all new VW's coming out of the dealer showrooms.

I see that Lepsons no longer offer their free courier service; stopped on the grounds of increased courier costs. They are currently offering a 50% discount off courier charges though.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 August 2017, 13:59
Car looks great Rebecca and a top notch refurb job by Lessons. Your car looks way better than pretty much all new VW's coming out of the dealer showrooms.

I see that Lepsons no longer offer their free courier service; stopped on the grounds of increased courier costs. They are currently offering a 50% discount off courier charges though.

Cheers SRGTD. It's good to get it sorted and great to have some new rubber.  Had Conti 5Ps for last 5 years so time for a change and it feels a very good one.

Shame about Lepsons dropping their free courier service but at least offering some discount.  Tbh, they are so good if I was further afield I would happily pay the courier charge.  Very fortuitously I live only 30 miles away so a massive bonus!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Alun on 25 August 2017, 14:22
Fantastic review Rebecca and the follow up posts made excellent reading as well. Have fun everyone and keep safe
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Watts on 25 August 2017, 14:53
That certainly does look a top notch job. When I get my Santiagos refurbed, probably next year, I think it'll be worth going to them despite the distance. I was set on getting Pirellis again but your thoughts on th PS4s has got me thinking....
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Daz Auto on 25 August 2017, 15:16
Rebecca, your car looks like it has half a picture of a house painted on it :cool:

I'm wondering if I should wait until next year for the PS4 S. Though I'm not sure I could stand the Bridgestone's until then. :undecided:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 August 2017, 19:54
Fantastic review Rebecca and the follow up posts made excellent reading as well. Have fun everyone and keep safe

Thanks Alun.  :smiley:  I'll most likely do a brief end of year 2 review in Oct. The last couple of years in the R have gone too quick!  Still no plans to change for quite a while, it's such a complete car.

That certainly does look a top notch job. When I get my Santiagos refurbed, probably next year, I think it'll be worth going to them despite the distance. I was set on getting Pirellis again but your thoughts on th PS4s has got me thinking....

Really chuffed with the refurb Watts, and as for the tyres, well I think they are going to be a massive hit!  A few more observations below.

Rebecca, your car looks like it has half a picture of a house painted on it :cool:

I'm wondering if I should wait until next year for the PS4 S. Though I'm not sure I could stand the Bridgestone's until then. :undecided:

Obviously it's very early miles yet Daz Auto, but I am already chuffed with them.  Instantly noticeable improvement over the outgoing Conti 5Ps, and I don’t say that lightly as I think 5P tyres are excellent.  The noise level is markedly quieter - had a good listen to them all the way home on mixed roads - motorway, dual carriageway, local roads, and much quieter, 5Ps are not the quietest tyre.  I’ve got the car on DCC Sport as it was before and I deliberately drove (moderate pace) over some rough potholed roads (that's most of the roads round my way!) and the PS4S feel to absorb the potholes much better, I was a bit shocked by it, wasn’t expecting such a difference. But best of all is how they just feel overall, the car feels as though it is properly part of the road, an extension of it and unbelievably grounded, more so than the usual planted sure-footedness of the R.  I’ve done about 60 miles on them overall today and the car feels better than ever before.  It doesn’t detract from the fact that Conti 5Ps are a great tyre and they've stood my cars in good stead for overall years, but if these early observations are anything to go by, I think the PS4S are something very special.
 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 25 August 2017, 20:20
A couple more with new shoes on.  Another day, another bit of tarmac!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4439/36661698171_582ee0cf53_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XREMAk)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4425/36753685746_fca3f546dd_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XZNfi1)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: TurboTrev on 25 August 2017, 20:55
Absolutely beautiful, that shine, unbelievable. :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: seabrook132 on 25 August 2017, 21:56
Looking great Bec, I too have just changed to Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (no S version available in 18") after a long time on other tyres (Last 70k miles on Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric on the Golf and another 20k on the Alfa I had before) Only done about 10 miles so no real impressions yet but looking forward to finding out!

Wish I was closer to Lepsons!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 26 August 2017, 00:46
Absolutely beautiful, that shine, unbelievable. :cool:

Thanks Trev.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 26 August 2017, 00:50
Looking great Bec, I too have just changed to Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (no S version available in 18") after a long time on other tyres (Last 70k miles on Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric on the Golf and another 20k on the Alfa I had before) Only done about 10 miles so no real impressions yet but looking forward to finding out!

Wish I was closer to Lepsons!

Cheers Dan.  Be really good to hear how you find the PS4 tyre on your mk6 and how they compare to the outgoing Goodyears, which themselves have a great rep.

You aren't too far from Milton Keynes Dan - Pristine Wheels are a top notch wheel place there.

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: st332 on 26 August 2017, 09:05
Is there a big difference between the Pilot Sport 4 and Pilot Sport 4S?
I have a GTI winging it's way to me at the moment with 18" rims, so I guess 4S is not an option.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Daz Auto on 26 August 2017, 10:29
Is there a big difference between the Pilot Sport 4 and Pilot Sport 4S?
I have a GTI winging it's way to me at the moment with 18" rims, so I guess 4S is not an option.
Do not quote me on this...

The PS4 is a replacement for the PS3. It is a mainstream performance tyre and should wear well.

The PS4 S is a replacement for the Pilot Super Sport. My guess is - 5% better performance, but will likely cost 50% more and not last as long.

Hmmm... I think I have answered my own question... going to order some Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres soon :cool:




Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 26 August 2017, 11:05
That's a fair endorsement of them. My last car came with 5p's on them and I liked them but then changed to Pirelli P Zeros and I found the ride to be much better on the P Zeros but the grip wasn't as good as the Conti's but they were quieter.

I then went to Cup 2's and that was rather different, in a good way.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 26 August 2017, 11:07
Is there a big difference between the Pilot Sport 4 and Pilot Sport 4S?
I have a GTI winging it's way to me at the moment with 18" rims, so I guess 4S is not an option.
Do not quote me on this...

The PS4 is a replacement for the PS3. It is a mainstream performance tyre and should wear well.

The PS4 S is a replacement for the Pilot Super Sport. My guess is - 5% better performance, but will likely cost 50% more and not last as long.

Hmmm... I think I have answered my own question... going to order some Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres soon :cool:

 :grin:  There you go, you are a genius!   :laugh:  Do yourself a massive favour and ditch the Bridgestones sooner rather than later, and get the PS4 and enjoy some good rubber now.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JoeGTI on 26 August 2017, 11:18
What's the sidewall protection like with the PS4S Rebecca? I saw a brand new R in the dealers last week on Pirellis and they'd no sidewall protection! The prets were really sticking out proud of the tyres.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: st332 on 26 August 2017, 12:18
Is there a big difference between the Pilot Sport 4 and Pilot Sport 4S?
I have a GTI winging it's way to me at the moment with 18" rims, so I guess 4S is not an option.
Do not quote me on this...

The PS4 is a replacement for the PS3. It is a mainstream performance tyre and should wear well.

The PS4 S is a replacement for the Pilot Super Sport. My guess is - 5% better performance, but will likely cost 50% more and not last as long.

Hmmm... I think I have answered my own question... going to order some Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres soon :cool:

 :grin:  There you go, you are a genius!   :laugh:  Do yourself a massive favour and ditch the Bridgestones sooner rather than later, and get the PS4 and enjoy some good rubber now.

I think I'll be sticking with the Bridgestones for a bit, spending enough money for the time being.
Based on most people's comments, I will probably replace them with Michelin PS4 or Pirelli PZero when the time comes.
Sorry for dragging this off topic with a tyre discussion!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 26 August 2017, 13:08
What's the sidewall protection like with the PS4S Rebecca? I saw a brand new R in the dealers last week on Pirellis and they'd no sidewall pr otection! The prets were really sticking out proud of the tyres.

Rubbish Joe, worse than with the Conti 5Ps (without rim protector), BUT, that all goes out the window when you drive on them.  I'll start a Lepsons refurb fund going. 

I'll get a pic to try and show the rim protection (lack of) in a min.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 26 August 2017, 13:09
Is there a big difference between the Pilot Sport 4 and Pilot Sport 4S?
I have a GTI winging it's way to me at the moment with 18" rims, so I guess 4S is not an option.
Do not quote me on this...

The PS4 is a replacement for the PS3. It is a mainstream performance tyre and should wear well.

The PS4 S is a replacement for the Pilot Super Sport. My guess is - 5% better performance, but will likely cost 50% more and not last as long.

Hmmm... I think I have answered my own question... going to order some Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres soon :cool:

 :grin:  There you go, you are a genius!   :laugh:  Do yourself a massive favour and ditch the Bridgestones sooner rather than later, and get the PS4 and enjoy some good rubber now.

I think I'll be sticking with the Bridgestones for a bit, spending enough money for the time being.
Based on most people's comments, I will probably replace them with Michelin PS4 or Pirelli PZero when the time comes.
Sorry for dragging this off topic with a tyre discussion!

No need to apologise, I love tyre talk.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 26 August 2017, 13:27
Joe, here's some pics taken as best I can to show how much sidewall projects from the Pret. Not a lot.

(https://s28.postimg.org/qn19y234d/640_F07_E5-_CE43-4639-_B407-2623_B81_C8_F67.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/exxaa3c5l/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/r7bpn06z1/C5_F23657-0288-4324-9136-37267_D9_F22_EE.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/f5gbsuxqh/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/7go2uvmml/FEDCADE8-88_FC-444_C-82_F6-_F3_BE9_F4_FCD6_A.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/kktn7keo9/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/p41afc765/IMG_9161.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/v4yzcets9/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/gn1s4f2h9/IMG_9163.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8ub4cfwi1/)

Been out out again in the car all morning and went on a few roads that are notable for their roughness, including a shocking level crossing which used to make me cringe going over it on the Contis even at snail speed - big difference with the PS4S. These tyres are considerably more absorbent and comfortable, but not in the way that DCC Comfort setting feels (which I hate).  So it's like you have the firm suspension setup but with a non wallowy comfort.  Best of both worlds.  I've tried them now on Sport and Normal DCC settings and great in both.  Superlative braking too. Did a few sudden braking tests and cornering braking tests and no messing about there, that's for sure!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Daz Auto on 28 August 2017, 20:04
Do yourself a massive favour and ditch the Bridgestones sooner rather than later, and get the PS4 and enjoy some good rubber now.
Ordered 4 new Michelin PS4 tyres today. :cool:

I want really good performance tyres on my GTI. Some car enthusiasts on this forum will appreciate that. They understand the difference a really good set of tyres can make to a car.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 28 August 2017, 20:15
Do yourself a massive favour and ditch the Bridgestones sooner rather than later, and get the PS4 and enjoy some good rubber now.
Ordered 4 new Michelin PS4 tyres today. :cool:

I want really good performance tyres on my GTI. Some car enthusiasts on this forum will appreciate that. They understand the difference a really good set of tyres can make to a car.


Excellent!  Sure they will be superb.

A really good set of tyres makes all the difference. It's what's keeping you on the road after all and optimises the capabilities of the car.   One thing I'll never skimp on is a very good set of tyres. Worth their weight in rubber.   :wink:

Post up your thoughts when you've given them a good blast.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 28 August 2017, 21:54
Do yourself a massive favour and ditch the Bridgestones sooner rather than later, and get the PS4 and enjoy some good rubber now.
Ordered 4 new Michelin PS4 tyres today. :cool:

I want really good performance tyres on my GTI. Some car enthusiasts on this forum will appreciate that. They understand the difference a really good set of tyres can make to a car.

I still haven't fitted mine yet but I'm considering getting some 19's after seeing what another member here has done, in bronze.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 07 September 2017, 11:58
Booked it in for it's second service (2 weeks today).  Can't believe how fast the 2 years ownership has gone - time flies when you love your R.  Might have to do a little birthday 2 year review to mark the milestone.  Birthday present was the PS4S.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Watts on 07 September 2017, 14:15
Booked it in for it's second service (2 weeks today).  Can't believe how fast the 2 years ownership has gone - time flies when you love your R.  Might have to do a little birthday 2 year review to mark the milestone.  Birthday present was the PS4S.

Had mine just over two years too (30th of August) and can't believe where that went. I wasn't so generous though, mine just got a new air filter!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Brenbo on 07 September 2017, 14:32
Booking mine in for it's first year service within the next week or so.  Time really does fly.  It does not feel like I have had it a year already??  :shocked:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 07 September 2017, 14:54
Booked it in for it's second service (2 weeks today).  Can't believe how fast the 2 years ownership has gone - time flies when you love your R.  Might have to do a little birthday 2 year review to mark the milestone.  Birthday present was the PS4S.

Had mine just over two years too (30th of August) and can't believe where that went. I wasn't so generous though, mine just got a new air filter!

It's the sentiment that counts not the cost although try telling that to my bank balance!  :laugh:

Booking mine in for it's first year service within the next week or so.  Time really does fly.  It does not feel like I have had it a year already??  :shocked:

A year already!  Time goes fast in a fast car.   :cool:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Brenbo on 07 September 2017, 15:31
Booked it in for it's second service (2 weeks today).  Can't believe how fast the 2 years ownership has gone - time flies when you love your R.  Might have to do a little birthday 2 year review to mark the milestone.  Birthday present was the PS4S.

Had mine just over two years too (30th of August) and can't believe where that went. I wasn't so generous though, mine just got a new air filter!

It's the sentiment that counts not the cost although try telling that to my bank balance!  :laugh:

Booking mine in for it's first year service within the next week or so.  Time really does fly.  It does not feel like I have had it a year already??  :shocked:

A year already!  Time goes fast in a fast car.   :cool:
I must agree.  Absolute love my Golf R, just as much as when i picked it up almost a year ago.  So glad I put extended warranty on it as I have no plans to change it until the MK8 is released at the earliest.     :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 07 September 2017, 20:09


A year already!  Time goes fast in a fast car.   :cool:

I must agree.  Absolute love my Golf R, just as much as when i picked it up almost a year ago.  So glad I put extended warranty on it as I have no plans to change it until the MK8 is released at the earliest.     :grin:

Lol.  There's a good chance I'll keep mine until an 8R shows it's face and the early teething issues are out of the way.  Such a good car it would be a crime to get rid of it even at 3 years old which is roughly when I normally switch although I keep me second mk7 gti for 4 years as that was such a good car.  The R is in that league and more.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CHB100 on 07 September 2017, 22:50


A year already!  Time goes fast in a fast car.   :cool:

I must agree.  Absolute love my Golf R, just as much as when i picked it up almost a year ago.  So glad I put extended warranty on it as I have no plans to change it until the MK8 is released at the earliest.     :grin:

Lol.  There's a good chance I'll keep mine until an 8R shows it's face and the early teething issues are out of the way.  Such a good car it would be a crime to get rid of it even at 3 years old which is roughly when I normally switch although I keep me second mk7 gti for 4 years as that was such a good car.  The R is in that league and more.

I'll be honest I hope the 8 isn't a great departure from the 7.5. Although I can see areas of design that could be improved. Point is the performance and ability is dare I say almost impossible to improve on in this package. Especially at the price, Porsche would struggle to match it ,maybe on a boxster châssis at £50k +

I intend to keep for 7++? Years regardless, especially now I have pedal box+ fitted :evil:
Everyone was right, a revelation , like an extra ?BHP on tap.

Am off to Cornwall tomorrow 500 mile plus trip. Will have in City mode as have passenger :wink:

Trust will not end up hedgerows.  :nerd: sensible head on.

R the ultimate driving machine !

PS. It's a thirsty bxxxxr mind :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 07 September 2017, 23:24


A year already!  Time goes fast in a fast car.   :cool:

I must agree.  Absolute love my Golf R, just as much as when i picked it up almost a year ago.  So glad I put extended warranty on it as I have no plans to change it until the MK8 is released at the earliest.     :grin:

Lol.  There's a good chance I'll keep mine until an 8R shows it's face and the early teething issues are out of the way.  Such a good car it would be a crime to get rid of it even at 3 years old which is roughly when I normally switch although I keep me second mk7 gti for 4 years as that was such a good car.  The R is in that league and more.

I'll be honest I hope the 8 isn't a great departure from the 7.5. Although I can see areas of design that could be improved. Point is the performance and ability is dare I say almost impossible to improve on in this package. Especially at the price, Porsche would struggle to match it ,maybe on a boxster châssis at £50k +

I intend to keep for 7++? Years regardless, especially now I have pedal box+ fitted :evil:
Everyone was right, a revelation , like an extra ?BHP on tap.

Am off to Cornwall tomorrow 500 mile plus trip. Will have in City mode as have passenger :wink:

Trust will not end up hedgerows.  :nerd: sensible head on.

R the ultimate driving machine !



Well Golf development is almost always evolutionary but it's an interesting juncture for the future of such cars, so will be intriguing to see what the mk8 does bring forth. Aside from changes under the hood, the design will not be too much of a departure I shouldn't think but sadly performance Golf design seems to be heading into a more generic era, which is a shame imo.  But time will tell, and the mk7R original and facelift is a winner on many many fronts and will be a very hard act to follow.

I only feel like I've had my R about a year rather than 2 which is a good thing and it still gives me thrills everyday.  Great great car.

Take it easy with your new pedal box - don't want to be reading about any more R's crashed into living rooms.  And enjoy your trip to Cornwall. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JoeGTI on 07 September 2017, 23:48
My R also recently turned 2 and I also had it in for its 2nd service last week. Like Rebecca, it doesn't seem like 2 years. The car is still like new inside and out.
I briefly contemplated changing it a few weeks ago. I guess a vandalism/theft incident prompted it. I even had a deal on the table for a Clubsport. But several people ("car" guys and my wife!) talked me out of it  :wink:
The R would be a very very hard car to replace. I sat into a new 7.5 recently. Sure the new tech is nice, but the wedge it would cost to change up to what is essentially mostly the same car would be extremely hard to justify...
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 08 September 2017, 07:38
My R also recently turned 2 and I also had it in for its 2nd service last week. Like Rebecca, it doesn't seem like 2 years. The car is still like new inside and out.
I briefly contemplated changing it a few weeks ago. I guess a vandalism/theft incident prompted it. I even had a deal on the table for a Clubsport. But several people ("car" guys and my wife!) talked me out of it  :wink:
The R would be a very very hard car to replace. I sat into a new 7.5 recently. Sure the new tech is nice, but the wedge it would cost to change up to what is essentially mostly the same car would be extremely hard to justify...

It's good to hear you've decided to keep the R Joe.  I'm glad the 'car' guys and your wife talked you out of it (made you see sense, lol).  It's such a good car in either version, why would you want to let it go and what else out there matches its offering?  Not a lot. The new tech in the facelift is not enough to make me want to change, nor is the 7th gear which is not something I would hugely benefit from anyway.  At this point in time I feel quite happy waiting for a mk8R and catch up with new tech then.  One of my main hopes (purely aesthetic) is that VW resist the temptation to put geometric or enclosed tailpipes on it.  Fingers crossed they leave that to the other hothatch brigades!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: CHB100 on 08 September 2017, 08:13
My R also recently turned 2 and I also had it in for its 2nd service last week. Like Rebecca, it doesn't seem like 2 years. The car is still like new inside and out.
I briefly contemplated changing it a few weeks ago. I guess a vandalism/theft incident prompted it. I even had a deal on the table for a Clubsport. But several people ("car" guys and my wife!) talked me out of it  :wink:
The R would be a very very hard car to replace. I sat into a new 7.5 recently. Sure the new tech is nice, but the wedge it would cost to change up to what is essentially mostly the same car would be extremely hard to justify...

I totally agree with not needing to change to a 7.5. It was timing for me And I changed from a 6 GTI.
Horrible what happened with yours, don't let them win.
Only an 8R should maybe tempt you into parting.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JoeGTI on 08 September 2017, 23:29
Yeah I'm kinda glad I saw sense now tbh! My logic was ludicrous in any case. The vandalism thing got me thinking of changing but the car I was looking at - a Tornado red Clubsport - was hardly going to solve the "unwanted attention" issue  :laugh:
Almost everyone I asked thought I was insane to even consider it lol.

Now I need to get 2 new tyres for the R. (Man maths was also telling me I'd "save" on tyres by changing the car  :grin:)
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 September 2017, 01:34
Yeah I'm kinda glad I saw sense now tbh! My logic was ludicrous in any case. The vandalism thing got me thinking of changing but the car I was looking at - a Tornado red Clubsport - was hardly going to solve the "unwanted attention" issue  :laugh:
Almost everyone I asked thought I was insane to even consider it lol.

Now I need to get 2 new tyres for the R. (Man maths was also telling me I'd "save" on tyres by changing the car  :grin:)

Lol Joe.  Replace an R with a red Clubsport (nice!) to make your driveway less attractive to thieves?  What were you thinking.  :grin:  Forget the man maths, get the tyres.  What tyres?   
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JoeGTI on 09 September 2017, 09:29
:grin:
Probably PS4-S's although I'm only changing 2 for now. I can't justify binning the 2 tyres that still have plenty left. So I wouldn't rule out like for like conti's either. I'll just need to bite the bullet in next few weeks and price them up.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 September 2017, 11:30
:grin:
Probably PS4-S's although I'm only changing 2 for now. I can't justify binning the 2 tyres that still have plenty left. So I wouldn't rule out like for like conti's either. I'll just need to bite the bullet in next few weeks and price them up.

On the rear I presume Joe?  If you can somehow stretch to it, go PS4S all round.  How much tread is remaining on your Contis?  Might be able to shift them on eBay or forums.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: JoeGTI on 09 September 2017, 18:37
Ya there's about 4mm left on the 2 rears. I've never bothered rotating them so my fronts have obviously worn much quicker. But not as quick as they wore on the GTI. I reckon the 4WD is actually a little kinder to tyres, more even weight distribution and less scrabbling for grip at the front I guess.

So I think I'll just replace the front 2 and do the rears again in 6 months or whatever... assuming I still have it  :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 09 September 2017, 18:45
Ya there's about 4mm left on the 2 rears. I've never bothered rotating them so my fronts have obviously worn much quicker. But not as quick as they wore on the GTI. I reckon the 4WD is actually a little kinder to tyres, more even weight distribution and less scrabbling for grip at the front I guess.

So I think I'll just replace the front 2 and do the rears again in 6 months or whatever... assuming I still have it  :grin:

That's my observation too.  On my GTI I got 12k out of 2 sets of Conti 5Ps with about 3mm tread left. On the R I got 14k out of them with a bit over 3-4mm left, so definitely seems better on the tyres than sole FWD.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Moro on 10 September 2017, 13:33
Slightly off-topic, but the last Haldex car I owned was a 2007 Audi TT 3.2 - bought new. The most worn tyre @ 20k was the near side rear, when I chose to replace them all. Surprised me too!
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Exonian on 15 September 2017, 15:11
Booked it in for it's second service (2 weeks today).  Can't believe how fast the 2 years ownership has gone - time flies when you love your R.  Might have to do a little birthday 2 year review to mark the milestone.  Birthday present was the PS4S.

Had mine just over two years too (30th of August) and can't believe where that went. I wasn't so generous though, mine just got a new air filter!

It's the sentiment that counts not the cost although try telling that to my bank balance!  :laugh:

Booking mine in for it's first year service within the next week or so.  Time really does fly.  It does not feel like I have had it a year already??  :shocked:

A year already!  Time goes fast in a fast car.   :cool:

Blimey yes, time does fly. Four years for me in a white mk7 next month!  :rolleyes:
 :grin:
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 15 September 2017, 18:14
Booked it in for it's second service (2 weeks today).  Can't believe how fast the 2 years ownership has gone - time flies when you love your R.  Might have to do a little birthday 2 year review to mark the milestone.  Birthday present was the PS4S.

Had mine just over two years too (30th of August) and can't believe where that went. I wasn't so generous though, mine just got a new air filter!

It's the sentiment that counts not the cost although try telling that to my bank balance!  :laugh:

Booking mine in for it's first year service within the next week or so.  Time really does fly.  It does not feel like I have had it a year already??  :shocked:

A year already!  Time goes fast in a fast car.   :cool:

Blimey yes, time does fly. Four years for me in a white mk7 next month!  :rolleyes:
 :grin:

No facelift in your white mk7 lineup.  You're slacking.  Must try harder.
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Brenbo on 15 September 2017, 18:14
Does anyone know how to remove deep scuffs/scratches from a leather steering wheel. After visiting my local dealership for the first year service of my Golf R I have noticed 2x 20cm+ long scuffs/scratches on my steering wheel which are fairly deep, please help?
Title: Re: Thoughts on the R
Post by: Booth11 on 15 September 2017, 18:19
Does anyone know how to remove deep scuffs/scratches from a leather steering wheel. After visiting my local dealership for the first year service of my Golf R I have noticed 2x 20cm+ long scuffs/scratches on my steering wheel which are fairly deep, please help?

No, unfortunately.  I'd seek the advice of a leather specialist if I were you, especially if the leather has actually been cut.  I think you can get leather binder and re-colouring kits I think. You can use stuff like shoe polish rubbed into scuffs to lessen the appearance.