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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: shambow on 22 February 2010, 06:15
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H bad news everyone i have chocolate camshaft :sick: does any body know were the best place i can buy the full kit an how much will it cost?i dont want too buy from vw as it will cost an arm an a leg.(camshaft followers bearing )an im going too do the timing belt an water pump as well.i cant for the life of me understand why my cam has gone with only 36k on her :sad:
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need more details m8. e.g. engine size. Engine Code? BHP?
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will be ARL / 150bhp I'm thinking......
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a arl with only 36k some old granny must of had it.
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a arl with only 36k some old granny must of had it.
yep and possibly poorly maintained though its not the first case of low mileage cam failure i've heard of :sad:
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mite take mine off at the weekend and check it out. Is there a upgraded version from vw to solve the issue. or if you bought anotherone from them it would be the same?
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mite take mine off at the weekend and check it out. Is there a upgraded version from vw to solve the issue. or if you bought anotherone from them it would be the same?
never remember but i think it was the followers that were upgraded :undecided:
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just wondering now wither to change the followers on mine if the cam is ok. Just so i dont fall foul to the choc cam issue
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just wondering now wither to change the followers on mine if the cam is ok. Just so i dont fall foul to the choc cam issue
there are hundreds of cars without the issue so you could be spending out for nothing
Visual inpsection for now should do the job :smiley:
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hopefully with mine being an 03 plate it mite have had the issue resolved towards the end of the production of the mk4
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give these guys a bell (http://www.volksmaster.co.uk/) say Tabs of UKMIVS sent you. they can supply a cam for £250 delivered (normally £280 plus postage) it apparently comes from the same factory as the vw cams
the cam from the dealers is around £400
the bear minium you need to change is
followers x 8 (dealers £22 each)
Shell bearings x 10 (£6 each)
cam shaft seal x 1 (£18)
oil x 1 (£24)
oil filter x 1 (£6)
you will more than likely need the cambelt done again (unless it was done not long ago) also the water pump
expect around £300+ labour
mine went last month (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=140425.0) cost me £850 and I never changed the cambelt or water pump as they weren't done long ago
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Are the caps machined to match the head? or are there separate bearing shells on a mk4?
Sounds like a very expensive problem, why does this happen?
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separate shell bearings
a few theories one being wrong oil used. which mine has only ever been serviced using correct vw oil
another being the followers where made of a weaker metal. so over time the cam wears it down.
vw revised the metal the followers where made out of a few years back. old followers are a shinny silver new ones are black case hardened
also see some 130 and 115 being affected with it now :cry: :lipsrsealed:
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thanks for getting back lads.sorry the car is a 3door 03 arl pd 150. the guy that doing the work said that the problem is(cylinder 2) the camshaft lug that sits over number two cylinder has wear and two followers are needed too. am i better getting all the follower changed or would the others do?is it the followers that give the bother or camshaft?ive just got a camshaft from my local vw breakers for £100.yes it was a woman that had the car before me i will say no more lol
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change all the followers for the new ones!!
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would gsf car parts be a good place to get my parts from? as i live in n.ireland
so wot i need is
camshaft x1
followers x8
shell bearing x10
cam shaft seal x1
oil x1
oil filter x1
cam belt kit x1
water pump x1
is there any other parts needed lads?
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only get them from vw £22 each you need 8
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wot type of engine oil do i need?
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vw 507 quantum PD oil 5w40
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separate shell bearings
a few theories one being wrong oil used. which mine has only ever been serviced using correct vw oil
another being the followers where made of a weaker metal. so over time the cam wears it down.
vw revised the metal the followers where made out of a few years back. old followers are a shinny silver new ones are black case hardened
also see some 130 and 115 being affected with it now :cry: :lipsrsealed:
I take it when the tappets get worn down the cam lobes also get damaged?
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as the followers start to wear they wear down the cam lobe
this was mine
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/golf/14012010124.jpg)
and this was the follower
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/golf/14012010140.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/kryptik_2010/golf/14012010141.jpg)
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Holy sh!t!!
Why would this issue only affect PD engines? or am i just being thick? :tongue:
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now then pd init 505.1 not 507????
touch wood my cam seems to be ok on 94k now 03 plate.
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Holy sh!t!!
Why would this issue only affect PD engines? or am i just being thick? :tongue:
maybe something to do with the injectors working off the cam on PD engines :undecided: and a bad batch of followers
Nad 507 is the newer spec
as long as its 501 or 507
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Hi again fingers crossed car is up running again an i get it back tonight! :smiley:
i will give use a full run down of all the parts i needed an the bill witch im not looking forward too :sick: