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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1440 on: 04 November 2017, 21:16 »
Thanks for the info Rebecca.
I’ll think I’ll be ordering very soon, just to force Watts hand: )

Haha, competitive DA ordering.  :laugh:  Its about time you and Watts sorted yourselves out and got yourselves DAs.  You’re about to push the button, but is he?   :grin:
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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1441 on: 04 November 2017, 22:51 »
I appreciate that this is a polisher and not a DA machine, but due to it's smaller size, do you think this would be easier to use and possibly more versatile?
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/flex/pe8-4-80-mini-rotary-machine-polisher.aspx
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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1442 on: 04 November 2017, 23:22 »
I appreciate that this is a polisher and not a DA machine, but due to it's smaller size, do you think this would be easier to use and possibly more versatile?
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/flex/pe8-4-80-mini-rotary-machine-polisher.aspx

A rotary polisher generates a lot more heat between the pad and paintwork than a DA polisher does (there’s hardly any heat build up with a DA), so a rotary increases the risk of strike-through or burning through the clear coat, especially when in inexperienced hands. The risk of strike-through or burning through the clear coat is minimal with a DA.

IMO, for a first polishing machine, I’d recommend investing in a DA that will take both 5” and 3” backing plates and pads. That way, you’ll have the versatility of being able to tackle larger areas and most of the harder to access areas too. The Das 6 Pro is a good all round machine and perfect for first-time polishers. I’ve had mine for just over 3.5 years and it’s given good service and paid for itself many times over.
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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1443 on: 04 November 2017, 23:22 »
I appreciate that this is a polisher and not a DA machine, but due to it's smaller size, do you think this would be easier to use and possibly more versatile?
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/flex/pe8-4-80-mini-rotary-machine-polisher.aspx

No.  Just my opinion but I don’t think your first foray into machine polishing should be with a Rotary without some amount of practice and training, due to the nature of its rotation, which can, in inexperienced hands, lead to a build up of heat in one area, and potential risk of burning through the paint.  Far better to start out with a DA which is the safer option for your paintwork in novice hands because it randomly oscillates removing the risk of heat build up. 

Also for your first DA you’ll find it hard work covering and entire car with a spot machine, so unless you are planning on buying 2 machines, look for a machine that can take spot pads and normal pads.  My first DA was Meguiars (8mm throw) which was a great start out machine, until I outgrew it and wanted something with a longer throw, and so I sold it and moved onto the Pro Plus.  So if you start out with something like the DAS6 Pro, you can always upgrade later and part fund a new machine buy selling your old one.
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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1444 on: 05 November 2017, 07:25 »
I appreciate that this is a polisher and not a DA machine, but due to it's smaller size, do you think this would be easier to use and possibly more versatile?
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/flex/pe8-4-80-mini-rotary-machine-polisher.aspx

A rotary polisher generates a lot more heat between the pad and paintwork than a DA polisher does (there’s hardly any heat build up with a DA), so a rotary increases the risk of strike-through or burning through the clear coat, especially when in inexperienced hands. The risk of strike-through or burning through the clear coat is minimal with a DA.

IMO, for a first polishing machine, I’d recommend investing in a DA that will take both 5” and 3” backing plates and pads. That way, you’ll have the versatility of being able to tackle larger areas and most of the harder to access areas too. The Das 6 Pro is a good all round machine and perfect for first-time polishers. I’ve had mine for just over 3.5 years and it’s given good service and paid for itself many times over.
Thanks for the input :smiley:
So does the Das 6 Pro accept a 3'' backing plate as well as the larger ones that come supplied with it?
It doesn't make it clear on the website.
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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1445 on: 05 November 2017, 07:31 »
I appreciate that this is a polisher and not a DA machine, but due to it's smaller size, do you think this would be easier to use and possibly more versatile?
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/flex/pe8-4-80-mini-rotary-machine-polisher.aspx

No.  Just my opinion but I don’t think your first foray into machine polishing should be with a Rotary without some amount of practice and training, due to the nature of its rotation, which can, in inexperienced hands, lead to a build up of heat in one area, and potential risk of burning through the paint.  Far better to start out with a DA which is the safer option for your paintwork in novice hands because it randomly oscillates removing the risk of heat build up. 

Also for your first DA you’ll find it hard work covering and entire car with a spot machine, so unless you are planning on buying 2 machines, look for a machine that can take spot pads and normal pads.  My first DA was Meguiars (8mm throw) which was a great start out machine, until I outgrew it and wanted something with a longer throw, and so I sold it and moved onto the Pro Plus.  So if you start out with something like the DAS6 Pro, you can always upgrade later and part fund a new machine buy selling your old one.
Thanks Rebecca :smiley:
Do you think it's worth the extra £35 to invest in the pro plus rather than the pro?
The odd review I've read suggests that the plus is just as easy to control but offers a step up in performance.
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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1446 on: 05 November 2017, 08:18 »
So does the Das 6 Pro accept a 3'' backing plate as well as the larger ones that come supplied with it?
It doesn't make it clear on the website.

Yes, it does. Here’s mine with a 3” backing plate and pad attached;

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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1447 on: 05 November 2017, 08:38 »
So does the Das 6 Pro accept a 3'' backing plate as well as the larger ones that come supplied with it?
It doesn't make it clear on the website.

Yes, it does. Here’s mine with a 3” backing plate and pad attached;


I'm assuming then that the pro plus will also accept a 3'' backing plate?
If so, I think that's the way forward for me :smiley:
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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1448 on: 05 November 2017, 09:24 »
I appreciate that this is a polisher and not a DA machine, but due to it's smaller size, do you think this would be easier to use and possibly more versatile?
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/flex/pe8-4-80-mini-rotary-machine-polisher.aspx

No.  Just my opinion but I don’t think your first foray into machine polishing should be with a Rotary without some amount of practice and training, due to the nature of its rotation, which can, in inexperienced hands, lead to a build up of heat in one area, and potential risk of burning through the paint.  Far better to start out with a DA which is the safer option for your paintwork in novice hands because it randomly oscillates removing the risk of heat build up. 

Also for your first DA you’ll find it hard work covering and entire car with a spot machine, so unless you are planning on buying 2 machines, look for a machine that can take spot pads and normal pads.  My first DA was Meguiars (8mm throw) which was a great start out machine, until I outgrew it and wanted something with a longer throw, and so I sold it and moved onto the Pro Plus.  So if you start out with something like the DAS6 Pro, you can always upgrade later and part fund a new machine buy selling your old one.
Thanks Rebecca :smiley:
Do you think it's worth the extra £35 to invest in the pro plus rather than the pro?
The odd review I've read suggests that the plus is just as easy to control but offers a step up in performance.

Spot pad issue aside, yes I do. I haven’t used the normal DAS6 PRO but it’s very much like my old Megs 220, and compared to that, the Plus is much nicer to use all round, better ergonomics, the head of the machine is better to grip, the weight of the machine is good and most importantly, being 15mm throw, the machine has much lesss vibration.

It’s a toughie really due to the spot pad issue.  In spring I did my entire car with 5”pads but felt that 3” were definitely needed and it was something that I missed, hence the recent purchase of the Rupes Mini.
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Re: What detailing have you done today?
« Reply #1449 on: 05 November 2017, 09:27 »
So does the Das 6 Pro accept a 3'' backing plate as well as the larger ones that come supplied with it?
It doesn't make it clear on the website.

Yes, it does. Here’s mine with a 3” backing plate and pad attached;


I'm assuming then that the pro plus will also accept a 3'' backing plate?
If so, I think that's the way forward for me :smiley:

No, the Pro Plus will not accept a 3”backing plate as I’ve explained!  The backing plate assembly is different so it will only take the 5 and 6” that come with it (or replacements).  You cannot use spot pads on the Plus unless you somehow adapt it, which I have seen people do, but clearly a makeshift job and compromising the balance of the machine.

Pro Plus backing assembly.

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