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General => Shows, events, track days, motorsport => Topic started by: Diamond Hell on 26 December 2011, 11:44

Title: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 26 December 2011, 11:44
Naturally it doesn't include any BS 1.8T or 6-cylinder nonsense - just a breathed on ABF on ITBs banging out around 240bhp.

Full VLN lap here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI63XN7r25Q&feature=colike
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: tech1889 on 27 December 2011, 13:26
Now that is a pretty cool car and a good driver.. what is a drenth gearbox ? a sequential box ?
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: F17BAD on 27 December 2011, 17:15
Needs more power..
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: tech1889 on 27 December 2011, 17:18
Needs more power..

he says about 240hp.. i would like to see what else he done as ITB on their own wont produce that power 200hp tops
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: F17BAD on 27 December 2011, 19:36

Yea, id say 190 - 200 tops, their was that thread on CGTI (a RR shoot out) with all the top ABF cars, some which were supposedly 200bhp +.. not one broke 200 BHP and their was ones their with better spec than what this guy lists
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: danny_p on 27 December 2011, 21:01

Yea, id say 190 - 200 tops, their was that thread on CGTI (a RR shoot out) with all the top ABF cars, some which were supposedly 200bhp +.. not one broke 200 BHP and their was ones their with better spec than what this guy lists

that fact thats it's in the VLN should give a small clue about the motor in it that even a muppet would notice. 

FYI the VLN is competitive motorsport   and no one would list all there modifactions but it's safe to say it's much higher speck than any of the clubgti cars 
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: F17BAD on 27 December 2011, 22:00
well you can't really say that without knowing the cars that are on CGTI?.. some very good builds over on their
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 27 December 2011, 22:19
well you can't really say that without knowing the cars that are on CGTI?.. some very good builds over on their

You know how even really weak swimmers look OK in the shallow end of the pool?

That's you in the deep water of this thread.

Back to the foot bath where even you're less likely to drown.

 :grin:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: tech1889 on 27 December 2011, 22:33
Would like to know more on the motor in not doubting it for one second.. The car flies and that bm is not happy at all..

Sorry what is VLN ?
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 27 December 2011, 22:41
VLN is a German race series.

Very well-respected and attracts some big money.

*possibly* more than the twunts on CGTI are spending.

Just possibly.  :grin:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: F17BAD on 27 December 2011, 23:00
Hit a sore point mentioning CGTI i guess  :grin:.. 

Im not hiding the fact i know fack all about this race series, but ill be honest, i have no intention or desire to find out about it either.. point is that car probably is no better than some of the work carried out by the people over on CGTI  (even you have not dared to say otherwise with you saying possibly)

It was built in 1997... things have progressed since then?  am i right or am i wrong ??

if I'm wrong, fair one.. less of the sh!t attitude tho..  because nobody really cares fella
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 27 December 2011, 23:27
Im ignorant and I'm going to reiterate* how ignorant I am and outline how lazy I am in making my ignorant comments, too.

You really are.

Less of the ignorant, dimwitted attitude tho, because if you didn't care you'd keep your mouth shut and not point out how ignorant you are.

The use of the term *possibly* was an ironic one.

It's not surprising you didn't get that, it was irony.

This next bit is not irony, just in case you're wondering:

None of the clutter being waved around on CGTI is touring car spec.  It does not compare with this car, the engine of which was built last year.  If you actually read the comment posted on the video and understood anything about race cars you'd understand that the motor's less than a year old build, not something built in 1997 - that was the date of the shell, you plank.

Foot bath, now, don't inhale.

*that means repeat
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: F17BAD on 27 December 2011, 23:33
I think your just talking absolute ball bags TBH

Even the owner does not not know the true power.. now he can't be that serious can he..

there cars on CGT that piss all over this... even my Golf 3 has more power

Lets all just be honest for a moment.. its not really special is it...

Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: danny_p on 27 December 2011, 23:55
even my Golf 3 has more power

turbo lump makeing more power than an NA lump that a bloody big supriese isn't it now.

doing what it's built for i expect it'd leave your car in it's naturaly asperated dust, in fact id bet on it.

as far as turbo cars go theres no shortage of stuff with more power theres a few outside but i wouldn't put the documents down against beating a VLN  car even if it is a mk3 golf,  on the ring with any of them,  but i'd think all bar the passat would have your golf
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 28 December 2011, 00:32
POWAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!!

Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: tech1889 on 28 December 2011, 00:37
I think he is so good because he knows the track well.. There are some corners i thought he would boot it on but didn't don't know whether lack of grip or still learning the track.. I understood the car was a 1997 motor lol.. That engine must of had a lot of work itb and standalone can push 200bhp set up right but that last 40 must of been hard to achieve.. You can see the power by the sheer acceleration out of corners which a novice with a turbo wouldn't be good at because of spooling...


All in all a great car and had a lot of money spent on it to do that day in day out its no show car function before form and a mk3 is a cheap shell to replace if he prangs it..
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: danny_p on 28 December 2011, 00:49
that cylinder head is going to have been bloody expensive.

it's putting in a bloody good effort.  and even tho its a mk3 for some reason i like it
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Adam on 28 December 2011, 01:11
To have 100BHP± over standard on a NA motor is quite spectacular im my uneducated-in-race-engines eyes.
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: PenguinGTI on 28 December 2011, 03:15
I'd guess that circa 240hp seems about right from the videos. Certainly looks quick enough in a straight line for a naturally aspirated lump.

I love the clip at the start of the vid of the SLS slamming on the anchors behind him  :tongue:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: JC on 28 December 2011, 07:22
Owns one and now starts posting links about them  :shocked: :lipsrsealed:

DH sure your ok  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 December 2011, 08:38
DH sure your ok

It's you're, dumb-ass.
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 28 December 2011, 11:29
Want that engine and gearbox!
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: tech1889 on 28 December 2011, 13:21
Want that engine and gearbox!

without the price tag lol
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: BimmerDub on 28 December 2011, 14:45
DH,

Appears to soak up the bumps and cambers pretty well (appreciate its just a vid so hard to really tell?) - what sort of suspension setup do you have ?
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: dom on 28 December 2011, 15:20
DH,

Appears to soak up the bumps and cambers pretty well (appreciate its just a vid so hard to really tell?) - what sort of suspension setup do you have ?

It isn't DH in the vid, or his car :wink:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: BimmerDub on 28 December 2011, 15:32
DH,

Appears to soak up the bumps and cambers pretty well (appreciate its just a vid so hard to really tell?) - what sort of suspension setup do you have ?

It isn't DH in the vid, or his car :wink:

oops sorry, teach me to read all the posts  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 28 December 2011, 20:20
Want that engine and gearbox!

without the price tag lol

yeah and the rebuilds!
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: F17BAD on 28 December 2011, 21:53


doing what it's built for i expect it'd leave your car in it's naturaly asperated dust, in fact id bet on it.
 

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 December 2011, 22:10
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

You don't really understand how much hotter a race-built engine is in comparison to your chip-tuned road motor, do you?

Or how much lighter that car probably is to your lard-bucket.

You are an arrogant and hilariously ignorant dim-witted boor.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: leeroy20vt on 30 December 2011, 20:00
i take it single throttle valve is itbs ?

either way thats deffo quicker than most mk3s about for a abf anyway

and i would agree with the above from dh  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 30 December 2011, 21:21
i take it single throttle valve is itbs ?

throttlebody per port, so here's Jenvey's kit for the VW 16V

(http://www.jenvey.co.uk/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/DBVW45.JPG)

BIG gasps vs sucking in air through a plenum.

Oh and they make a f*cking kick-ass noise.

I would very much like to ITB my Syncro.
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: VW BUSH on 30 December 2011, 21:40
http://www.drenth-gearboxes.com/companyinformation/address-drenth.html

Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: tech1889 on 31 December 2011, 00:46
They are also fooking expensive lol
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: Rhyso on 03 January 2012, 08:32
They are also fooking expensive lol

Pocket change for the CGTI boys no doubt  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: stow1985 on 08 January 2012, 23:39
Thats a beaut!

Handles so well!

Thought id post this one up of the same car, get a little peak under the bonnet too  :grin:

http://youtu.be/E2h0G-md9rs
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: stow1985 on 08 January 2012, 23:44
...and one for the vr6 lovers  :laugh:

http://youtu.be/1B-DQLvKBoE
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: tigerj360 on 17 January 2012, 16:58
Awesome vid and great lap of the ring! :cool:

and Kells I must admit you must be crazy to think you could beat this on a lap of the ring.
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: tweed on 17 January 2012, 19:14
Awesome vid and great lap of the ring! :cool:

and Kells I must admit you must be crazy to think you could beat this on a lap of the ring.


Where did you read that? He said his has more power, nothing els.

Love this mk3. Awesome build!

But  :grin: :grin: at the comments. True Internet warriors. 
Title: Re: Golf3 onboard fast lap of the 'ring
Post by: dom on 17 January 2012, 19:59
...and one for the vr6 lovers  :laugh:

http://youtu.be/1B-DQLvKBoE

Fugly car and a sped up video :laugh: