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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #730 on: 08 June 2019, 09:07 »
Thanks for the response AGB. Yes mine was gen 2 184 dsg Tiguan. Lovely car hated the gearbox on it  :grin: I need to go and see a car with normal nav and nav pro and see what they look like.
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #731 on: 08 June 2019, 18:38 »
The nav on both screens is definitely not worth paying that extra premium. Also, if you're an Android auto / CarPlay guy, then its irrelevant. The apple maps/google maps will never show in the instrument cluster.

The larger screen does look nice though, but the extra premium is harder to justify now imo... it made more sense in the older units when the standard screen was much smaller.
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #732 on: 08 June 2019, 18:45 »
I don't really use Android auto, can't get away with it. I prefer to keep the nav maps up to date. My friend at work has the standard screen and I must admit it does look very nice with the glass front. 👍
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #733 on: 10 June 2019, 20:04 »



I wouldn’t say you’re clogging the thread, it’s affirming to know that other people agree as I sometimes feel like I am the only one who thinks like this. I have mentioned TCR a few times despite the slight diversion so have not derailed the thread too much I hope.  :laugh:

I have to confess to only really liking NA engines and the CSS and TCR are the only exceptions I have ever made on this. I had a 911 (991.2) last summer and it had a horrible lag. I kept putting it into boost mode or whatever stupid acronym Porsche gave it as it was the only way I could get the feel I loved. That hesitation and pedal lag doesn’t exist in the CSS and I can’t say I noticed it in the TCR but don’t know the car as well yet as I have not spent as much time with it. Pedal weights and feel in the CSS are very different to a manual MKVII GTI though.

I’d get on with your friend, I’ve never really been a fan of the R either. I chuckled when I saw mention of the i8. That’s responsible for some of the worst back pain I have ever had - supplies with the worst seats I have ever tried in any car in my entire life. But journalists never ever mention that.

YouTubers and Car Bloggers are in a better position to offer honest, credible reviews and I think Thomas of Autogefuhl is excellent at approximating the experience of poking around a car in detail. He tends to offer a fair review with a buyer’s consideration but without being on the manufacturer payroll. So many YouTubers are so excited by the free junkets that they give glowing reviews when they’ve ‘made it’ and are invited by manufacturers.

I very rarely watch YouTube bloggers but will occasionally watch one on recommendation and will agree Thomas is very good.

I’m the opposite, aside from the fact I’ll never be able to afford a Porsche  :grin: I really like modern turbo engines. I enjoy the thrust as boost kicks in when exiting a sharp corner. I’m too old and lazy to wring the neck of a revvy NA engine nowadays.
Mind you, an old skool V8...

I'm thinking of trying to order a TCR to replace my 7 GTi PP if I can get the figures right. If it's as good as my GTi then I'll be keeping it for a good while so I'm thinking of DCC, nav pro, dynaudio and climate screen. I've got all those options on my current GTi apart from climate screen but am thinking do I need all of them. I like the fact with the nav pro you can show the maps on both screens but then I'm thinking is that really necessary? My current car is also a manual as I didn't like the dsg Tiguan I had previously so is the dsg petrol much better? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Now would be a perfect time to order a TCR.
It’s a useful step up from the PP GTI on one hand and special enough to feel quite different from your current car. It’ll be a wee while before the hot mk8’s come online and a little while longer for discounts to appear and early production niggles to settle.

I finally got to see a TCR in the flesh on Sunday, I got in the VW Exeter showroom just as it opened to have a very quick nose around their car while the sales guys were still culling their hangovers with coffee.
I was really impressed with how the car looks in the flesh. I liked the detailing, the pure grey colouring and the Reifnitz wheels (and how cool is it to have wheels named after the GTI Treffen hometown?) and even the seats weren’t too gaudy in the flesh. It got the thumbs up from my son too. 
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #734 on: 11 June 2019, 08:53 »

I very rarely watch YouTube bloggers but will occasionally watch one on recommendation and will agree Thomas is very good.

I’m the opposite, aside from the fact I’ll never be able to afford a Porsche  :grin: I really like modern turbo engines. I enjoy the thrust as boost kicks in when exiting a sharp corner. I’m too old and lazy to wring the neck of a revvy NA engine nowadays.
Mind you, an old skool V8...


There are many doors into the church of Porsche and I think price perception is part of the issue. Granted, they are expensive but a friend of my wife wanted a convertible and I told her to get a Boxster. Too expensive she said. Found her an immaculate car with 8k miles for the price of a new GTI which was her budget.

I'm not down on modern turbo engines, I love the engine/tune in the CSS but what got me about that 911 was the fact that it was supposed to be a sports car yet the CSS felt more exciting and didn't have a discernible lag. 9000 rpm in a flat six NA is poetry but I share your love of a burbly V8. Now that would be an engine upgrade for a GTI!  :grin:
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #735 on: 11 June 2019, 15:38 »
Loads of TCR's now on Autotrader, showing the different combinations you can get.

Black, Grey, Red, White, 18's, 19's, decals, no decals, pan roof etc etc.

As much as I hate to admit it, the decals really have grown on me, they certainly separate the car apart from other GTI's...  :shocked:
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #736 on: 11 June 2019, 16:26 »
Loads of TCR's now on Autotrader, showing the different combinations you can get.

Black, Grey, Red, White, 18's, 19's, decals, no decals, pan roof etc etc.

As much as I hate to admit it, the decals really have grown on me, they certainly separate the car apart from other GTI's...  :shocked:

Didn't realise there were as many as that on AT!

Seeing a few from the side, it lacks IMO a decent rear spoiler as I think AGB commented that they've switched it the other way round from the CS. Decals would be a no for me though. The little TCR logo is nice but those spots are terrible.
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #737 on: 17 June 2019, 02:05 »
I said I would post up a fuller review when I had run the car in but I’ve done about 500 miles in it now and spent the last week in the TCR driving in all conditions so suspect that my opinion won’t change much.

We optioned the TCR with traffic sign recognition and lane assist. The first appears to only identify the last traffic sign recognised versus having any intelligence or using supplemental data. The speed warning that was permanently on in the instrumentation became a source of irritation and it was promptly disabled. The lane assist revealed itself to me on a piece of road I know well and as I took the racing line, proceeded to fight me. Disabled that at the next stop street and not turned it back on again. I am sure they can be adjusted in some way but I’m not bothered about them as features and wouldn’t specify them if I had my time again. These features have been executed better in other cars I’ve driven.

The car is starting to bed in and the exhaust has produced some promising sounds when provoked but I still think it’s too quiet or the cabin is too well insulated. For a race car inspired model, it appears inspiration was taken from Formula E.

This is the first VW I’ve had with the digital instrumentation and for the most part I like it - subject to the usual complaint about the division of information between the head unit and instrumentation cluster not always being entirely perfect. The one thing that I have a bit of a bug bear with is the fuel gauge. At no point am I ever in doubt as to what my fuel level is on the CSS. But on the TCR, I have to check the gauge versus being able to just glance at it. Not sure if it’s the orientation change or the colour choice of the marker needle. I need to investigate whether I can change the needle colour or customise it, I’m sure it’s possible but if anyone has done this, be good to hear your views and how you did the change. I no longer have VCDS but been thinking about getting it again but as it’s PC only, it really is a pain.

Over the last week, I’ve driven the car in some appalling conditions and it has felt sure footed in extremely water logged conditions. The Pirellis have been very good and confidence inspiring. My car has the Reifnitz wheels and there is virtually no tyre wall when combined with the Pirellis and even very low kerbs can be nicked if you turn out too sharply. There really isn’t much forgiveness at all. Brakes are excellent and every bit as good as the ones on the CSS. They’re sharp but don’t feel as over servoed as they initially did, this may be running in or just familiarisation on my part.

I’ve played with the chassis control extensively and am running an individual programme which in essence is sport mode with dampers set to comfort or standard. I think the DCC settings are really well judged and unlike the CSS, I can use all of them in all conditions and none feel inappropriate. On the other hand, race mode on the CSS can’t cope with the UK’s roads but Sport on the TCR is absolutely fine.

I think power and torque in the TCR are spot on and the car feels quick. Quicker than a GTI PP. I’ve not managed to slip the wheels or induce any tramping and it puts power down well without any discernible torque steer. I've not been stamping on the pedals or burying my foot, it just hasn't been necessary due to the level of power/torque.

The DSG gearbox. Personally, I hate it if I want to have fun but don’t mind it if I’m just driving the car normally. Left in full auto, it’s always a gear out from where I want to be or is hell bent on having me change up for fuel economy. Driven in manual, it’s fine but the paddles are a bit of a joke and might be more agreeable if they were suitably sized. I’ve mentioned that I don’t get on with the fact that they’re fixed to the steering wheel which is a pain if you’re on twisty road with changes in elevation where you’re turning and changing up/down. Left in full auto to avoid shifting, the car would have me in sixth as soon as it possibly could, even in sport. Will probably swap to Mountine paddles if they can supply them without the ‘Halfords look’ branding.

Fuel economy not great, driving like a saint, I got 36.6mpg on a 100 mile run which was 20% suburbs / 60% motorway / 20% rural. Ironically, my wife runs the car in eco and got worse figures for the same run and she has a very different driving style. The Blue Trainer app gave me 85% as a rating for my driving but given the 20% of London driving, that’s expected due to the way you have to drive. My GT4 has a 3.8 litre engine and is manual. I manage 30.1mpg driving in similar manner on the same journey.

For me, the novelty of exploring a new car has worn off. It’s a superb car and excellent package but I think the performance aspects are let down with DSG. Despite the creature comforts, modernised interface and so on, I’d have a CSS without hesitation if I wanted a car that put a smile on my face every time.
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #738 on: 17 June 2019, 06:46 »
OBD11 is an alternative to vcds and is phone or tablet based. Your 36mpg sounds really good considering its got 45bhp more than a GTi pp and it'll probably get slightly better the more miles go on.
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Re: 2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?
« Reply #739 on: 17 June 2019, 07:29 »
I said I would post up a fuller review when I had run the car in but I’ve done about 500 miles in it now and spent the last week in the TCR driving in all conditions so suspect that my opinion won’t change much.

We optioned the TCR with traffic sign recognition and lane assist. The first appears to only identify the last traffic sign recognised versus having any intelligence or using supplemental data. The speed warning that was permanently on in the instrumentation became a source of irritation and it was promptly disabled. The lane assist revealed itself to me on a piece of road I know well and as I took the racing line, proceeded to fight me. Disabled that at the next stop street and not turned it back on again. I am sure they can be adjusted in some way but I’m not bothered about them as features and wouldn’t specify them if I had my time again. These features have been executed better in other cars I’ve driven.

The car is starting to bed in and the exhaust has produced some promising sounds when provoked but I still think it’s too quiet or the cabin is too well insulated. For a race car inspired model, it appears inspiration was taken from Formula E.

This is the first VW I’ve had with the digital instrumentation and for the most part I like it - subject to the usual complaint about the division of information between the head unit and instrumentation cluster not always being entirely perfect. The one thing that I have a bit of a bug bear with is the fuel gauge. At no point am I ever in doubt as to what my fuel level is on the CSS. But on the TCR, I have to check the gauge versus being able to just glance at it. Not sure if it’s the orientation change or the colour choice of the marker needle. I need to investigate whether I can change the needle colour or customise it, I’m sure it’s possible but if anyone has done this, be good to hear your views and how you did the change. I no longer have VCDS but been thinking about getting it again but as it’s PC only, it really is a pain.

Over the last week, I’ve driven the car in some appalling conditions and it has felt sure footed in extremely water logged conditions. The Pirellis have been very good and confidence inspiring. My car has the Reifnitz wheels and there is virtually no tyre wall when combined with the Pirellis and even very low kerbs can be nicked if you turn out too sharply. There really isn’t much forgiveness at all. Brakes are excellent and every bit as good as the ones on the CSS. They’re sharp but don’t feel as over servoed as they initially did, this may be running in or just familiarisation on my part.

I’ve played with the chassis control extensively and am running an individual programme which in essence is sport mode with dampers set to comfort or standard. I think the DCC settings are really well judged and unlike the CSS, I can use all of them in all conditions and none feel inappropriate. On the other hand, race mode on the CSS can’t cope with the UK’s roads but Sport on the TCR is absolutely fine.

I think power and torque in the TCR are spot on and the car feels quick. Quicker than a GTI PP. I’ve not managed to slip the wheels or induce any tramping and it puts power down well without any discernible torque steer. I've not been stamping on the pedals or burying my foot, it just hasn't been necessary due to the level of power/torque.

The DSG gearbox. Personally, I hate it if I want to have fun but don’t mind it if I’m just driving the car normally. Left in full auto, it’s always a gear out from where I want to be or is hell bent on having me change up for fuel economy. Driven in manual, it’s fine but the paddles are a bit of a joke and might be more agreeable if they were suitably sized. I’ve mentioned that I don’t get on with the fact that they’re fixed to the steering wheel which is a pain if you’re on twisty road with changes in elevation where you’re turning and changing up/down. Left in full auto to avoid shifting, the car would have me in sixth as soon as it possibly could, even in sport. Will probably swap to Mountine paddles if they can supply them without the ‘Halfords look’ branding.

Fuel economy not great, driving like a saint, I got 36.6mpg on a 100 mile run which was 20% suburbs / 60% motorway / 20% rural. Ironically, my wife runs the car in eco and got worse figures for the same run and she has a very different driving style. The Blue Trainer app gave me 85% as a rating for my driving but given the 20% of London driving, that’s expected due to the way you have to drive. My GT4 has a 3.8 litre engine and is manual. I manage 30.1mpg driving in similar manner on the same journey.

For me, the novelty of exploring a new car has worn off. It’s a superb car and excellent package but I think the performance aspects are let down with DSG. Despite the creature comforts, modernised interface and so on, I’d have a CSS without hesitation if I wanted a car that put a smile on my face every time.

Nice to read a post that hasn’t been written with rose tinted glasses.

How do you think it would have faired against the CSS had it also been manual?

A few reviews have mentioned the sound is fine but got a race inspired car a little more would have been nice, but as you say, it may be down to how well insulated the cabin is. I wonder if this was part of the reason for the akrapovic addition that will be comin?
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