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Title: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Sandtrap on 19 March 2017, 01:00
My santiagos are un marked but i want a slight change .  should i powder coat them at a cost of £320 or buy a set of 19" cades appolo £650, and keep santiagos aside as they are, for selling car in future ?
Or other option, leave leave the santiagos as they are and stop wanting to change stuff all the time !
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: SRGTD on 19 March 2017, 08:41
Forum member EricM had his Santiagos powder coated in smoked chrome colour. I think they look good, and having them powder coated does away with the potential problem of white worm corrosion that diamond cut alloys are prone to. Link to thread, including picture below;

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=278775.0

I see that the Cades Apollo wheels are available in a number of different offsets and 2 different widths; 8.5" and 9.5". The spec for your Santiagos is 5x112 bolt pattern, 19" diameter and 7.5" width with an offset of ET51.

Assuming you'd be planning on getting the 19x8.5 version of the Apollos, the offset is ET40 for your bolt pattern of 5x112, which would mean the inner and outer clearance would change by;

Inner clearance; 2mm less
Outer clearance; the outer face of the wheel would stand out 24mm more than your current wheels, so almost an inch closer to the wheel arch edge. Bear in mind that you'd need wider tyres on an 8.5" wide wheel, which would likely add a few extra mm's to the 24mm additional 'poke', so you may have rubbing issues with the tyres fouling the bodywork (if you're lowered). Would an extra 24mm-plus additional tyre width extend the tyres beyond the bodywork? If so, I think that might be an MOT fail. Link to wheel offset calculator below so you can see the impact that different offsets will have on wheel clearance;

http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

If your current wheels are unmarked, I think I'd stick with them and save yourself the cost of powder coating or buying wider wheels/tyres that might give you clearance issues.
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Watts on 19 March 2017, 16:53
If they're unmarked I'd leave them as is. For a small change, how about swapping the centre caps for the ones with a red circumference (depending on the colour of your car):

https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/wheels-wheel-hub-cap-chrome-red-vw-golf-7-genuine-volkswagen.htm

Or a change of wheel if you have a capacious wallet! I covet the AEZ Raise, possibly as they have a similar design to the Santiagos but for me I'd go 18" to reduce the chance of damage from pot holes and cheaper tyres as I'm a tight a**e :whistle:

http://www.aez-wheels.com/EN/products/raise
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Sandtrap on 20 March 2017, 12:38
Thanks for input .. I think ill keep the santiagos on the car. might still powder coat but also might wait for that until they actually need it ..
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Zack on 20 March 2017, 15:54
£320 is very expensive, I had 4 powder coated last year for £200 and very good finish.
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: brettblade on 20 March 2017, 16:17
£320 is very expensive, I had 4 powder coated last year for £200 and very good finish.

£80 per wheel for high quality faces and barrels on 19s isn't particularly expensive, I'd say that's the going rate.
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Zack on 20 March 2017, 18:31
Not the going rate if I'm paying, the powder coaters that I use are in your neck of the woods. :smiley:
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Sandtrap on 20 March 2017, 20:03
£320 is for smoked chrome . Basic colours are £270  abd theses prices are for just dropping car off and they do it all !  So i think thats not too bad
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Sandtrap on 31 March 2017, 18:34
Got the car back today with the Santiagos done in anthracite !  Happy with the outcome ... apart from the plonkers painting my centre caps to match ! I was not amused when I saw that .. but after some too and frow they agreed to deduct the cost of replacements ..
excuse the state of the  car ! I'm just back from the wheel place ... got new centre caps ordered and next job is some detailing ....
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/menzies007/IMG_0933.jpg)[/URL]
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/menzies007/IMG_0934.jpg) (http://s179.photobucket.com/user/menzies007/media/IMG_0934.jpg.html)
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/menzies007/IMG_0935.jpg) (http://s179.photobucket.com/user/menzies007/media/IMG_0935.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Mr GTD on 31 March 2017, 21:01
Looks good  :cool:

Bloody numpties doing centres too  :laugh: but at least you got them to cough up for it.

Be good to see some pics of the car in full so we could get a better picture of what it looks like.

It's does look like they've done a good job though!
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Sandtrap on 31 March 2017, 22:18
Looks good  :cool:

Bloody numpties doing centres too  :laugh: but at least you got them to cough up for it.

Be good to see some pics of the car in full so we could get a better picture of what it looks like.

It's does look like they've done a good job though!

They have done a good job .only way they coughed up was because I had picked up my keys off the office desk before the boss arrived .. he had told the young lad on the phone not to give me the keys ! And when he turned up about 15 min later he said ' that car is not leaving here till you pay me the full fu@&*ng amount !  And then I showed him I already had the keys ! Ha he was not impressed and full of un called for language.... lol
.. I'll get car clean and sort a few pics .. centre caps won't be here till middle of next week though
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: Sandtrap on 06 April 2017, 21:13
Got some pics with the car slightly cleaner , was waiting for the club sport wheel centres but hopefully they will show up tomorrow.. also had the roofbars done in anthracite
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/menzies007/IMG_0937.jpg) (http://s179.photobucket.com/user/menzies007/media/IMG_0937.jpg.html)
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/menzies007/IMG_0938.jpg) (http://s179.photobucket.com/user/menzies007/media/IMG_0938.jpg.html)
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/menzies007/IMG_0939.jpg) (http://s179.photobucket.com/user/menzies007/media/IMG_0939.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: SRGTD on 06 April 2017, 22:11
They look great Sandtrap; I'd be really chuffed with those :cool: Much more durable than the previous diamond cut finish.
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: DougUK on 26 July 2017, 22:18
Hi Sandtrap, the images (anthracite) have gone from the site now but I wonder if you could try to reload and also update as to whether you've had an any issues since.  After lending my GTi to a mate for the weekend I now have 2 badly kerbed alloys and the wheel specialist (edinburgh) is clear this would be the last time they could be cut.  Powder coating (he recommended black chrome) would come in at £400.  That's for 19" with 2 repairs and 2 just coat and paint.
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: SRGTD on 27 July 2017, 08:31
There's a picture in this discussion thread at reply #22;

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=280813.20
Title: Re: Powder coat santiagos
Post by: DougUK on 27 July 2017, 21:42
Thanks, much appreciated for signposting!  :smiley: