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Which version of 5F (MIB infotainement) hardware do you have and does it bong?

H56 no bongs
4 (20%)
H56 f'ing bongs
9 (45%)
H57 bong free
0 (0%)
H57 bong hell
0 (0%)
H58 no bongs for me baby
5 (25%)
H58 if it bongs just once more its getting smashed with a hammer
2 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 20

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Offline Kenis

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Re: Bong or no bong - a game for all your friends
« Reply #20 on: 14 January 2024, 11:11 »
I had no bongs or issues of any kind for first 8 months. Update happened and freezing temperatures (and car not garaged as it was for first 5 months) and now this happens every other journey (see video), not quite bongs but first time happened all the front assist / impact protection / led special dimming headlights all came up as not working.

Worried I won’t be covered under warranty since I fitted the fit cam x dashcam and also fitted r paddles myself.

https://youtu.be/DqvXSV2PelQ?si=IwIIPdmHLwqKYPUy

If anyone has any suggestions on what to do / how to fix let me know.

Looking at getting an obd eleven (not sure if should get std, pro or ultimate) to both fix this and then enable dual maps, have auto stop/start default to off (although that may be possible in existing menus, just not looked hard enough)
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Re: Bong or no bong - a game for all your friends
« Reply #21 on: 30 January 2024, 12:45 »
Go on then I've voted. I've just been not trying to tempt fate, even after nearly two years of ownership.
Quoting myself here but it did indeed become fate. Quite amazingly the very next day after I voted (Oct 23) I had a warning appear on the dash about the car needing to visit the dealership as some sort of error had appeared, it's from then on the problems started. I'll continue this in the correct thread so head there if you want to read about my issues, it's not a short story.
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Re: Bong or no bong - a game for all your friends
« Reply #22 on: 22 July 2024, 18:45 »
Well it doesn't get any better with the newer Hardware or Software.  :angry:

My latest Mk 8, bought new in March 2024, came with H67 Hardware and 1969 Software and it didn't "bong, although it froze completely on a 6 hour drive, and then started performing erratically. For example, the car's Satnav once thought I was driving on a city side street 10 miles away from where I was actually located and, quite alarmingly, slowed me from 70 mph to 20 mph on a motorway. 

The dealership were excellent. No quibbles from them at all; they checked the car, identified a problem with the 5F Control Unit and ordered a replacement, which was fitted just a few weeks later.

So far - fingers crossed - no bongs or other issues have arisen. :smiley:





« Last Edit: 22 July 2024, 18:50 by Sniffer »
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Re: Bong or no bong - a game for all your friends
« Reply #23 on: 23 July 2024, 00:13 »
Incorrect sat nav location is not an entirely new problem, According to the sat nav display, My mk7 used to regularly think it was back home in Wolfsburg!
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Re: Bong or no bong - a game for all your friends
« Reply #24 on: 23 July 2024, 01:04 »
Incorrect sat nav location is not an entirely new problem, According to the sat nav display, My mk7 used to regularly think it was back home in Wolfsburg!

Errr, I don't think I  ever suggested it was a NEW problem.

What I actually said was that "it doesn't get any better with the newer Hardware or Software" and that the Satnav issue was just an example of the erratic behaviour of my car. The Infotainment system completely freezing for most of my six hour journey was probably what showed up on the diagnostic and, I assume, was the primary reason that the dealer/VW agreed to replace my 5F control Unit under warranty.

Furthermore, I am not sure that the Mk 7 Software would have intervened and slowed a car from 70 to 20 mph on a motorway because of a Satnav glitch.
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Re: Bong or no bong - a game for all your friends
« Reply #25 on: 25 July 2024, 23:21 »
I was just pointing out that it’s not a new issue, sorry, I wasn’t meaning to imply that you suggested that it was, and as you say, the mk7 wouldn’t have intervened. It does worry me a little that everything nowadays is so heavily reliant on electronics and software in order to function.
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Re: Bong or no bong - a game for all your friends
« Reply #26 on: 26 July 2024, 08:58 »
Furthermore, I am not sure that the Mk 7 Software would have intervened and slowed a car from 70 to 20 mph on a motorway because of a Satnav glitch.

It would only do that if you had travel assist on... if you had just automatic cruise control (without the extra that is speed recognition) then it would have been fine...

There are three things which could cause that fail btw.

One is the emergency assist unit rebooting (did you hear a double click followed by the infotainment reboot)

Next is that it read a road sign incorrectly - visible road signs can cause it to think its for the road you are on.

Lastly a total satnav glitch which put you in a place with a different speed limit.... this could be a VW fault OR could be the result of GPS spoofing/jamming....which these days is a possibility with those guys in the furry hats spewing stuff from their homeland.

I had one yesterday that came up with something like bong! "no data available in this area" and it flat out wouldn't display any speed limit data at all. I wasn't on the motorway, I was down some country lanes and not using travel assist. Never seen it before...
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Re: Bong or no bong - a game for all your friends
« Reply #27 on: 01 August 2024, 17:58 »
Furthermore, I am not sure that the Mk 7 Software would have intervened and slowed a car from 70 to 20 mph on a motorway because of a Satnav glitch.

It would only do that if you had travel assist on... if you had just automatic cruise control (without the extra that is speed recognition) then it would have been fine...

There are three things which could cause that fail btw.

One is the emergency assist unit rebooting (did you hear a double click followed by the infotainment reboot)

Next is that it read a road sign incorrectly - visible road signs can cause it to think its for the road you are on.

Lastly a total satnav glitch which put you in a place with a different speed limit.... this could be a VW fault OR could be the result of GPS spoofing/jamming....which these days is a possibility with those guys in the furry hats spewing stuff from their homeland.

I had one yesterday that came up with something like bong! "no data available in this area" and it flat out wouldn't display any speed limit data at all. I wasn't on the motorway, I was down some country lanes and not using travel assist. Never seen it before...


Thanks Fred. Yes, I was aware which systems were running at the time and, as I mentioned earlier, I also noticed that my Satnav thought I was - in a 20 mph limit side street - around 10 miles or so away from where I was actually located. This annoying issue continued on my journey for several more miles and, when I got home 30 mins later, my satnav suggested that I was even further away, in completely the wrong direction.

I have no idea whether the above issue was in any way related to the problem I experienced a few weeks previously, with the Infotainment system freezing on a 150 mile trip. Personally, I don't think it was.

Anyway, I have now had the work done at the dealers (i.e. 5F Control Unit replaced) and, so far, experienced no further issues with Bongs, freezes, misleading Satnav or anything else.

Fingers crossed!  :smiley:
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