2018 Golf TCR and dealer information ?

[Jim_mk7.5]

Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf. 

[AGB]

Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height! 

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

[Hertsman]

Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height! 

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Its not really ride height itself that querying its the ride itself, as most, despite its leaning to track will never take it near a track and it will spend its life on UK roads - that article was more promising in terms of the DCC making the ride comfortable for the times when you are commuting around.

The DCC on my GTD was a revelation, loved it, appropriately firm in Sport and soft and cossetted in comfort

The DCC on my R was a surprise as expected the ride to be a little more compromised on the 19" Pretoria but it was opposite, where normal on the R = Comfort on the GTD and comfort on R is in fact a little too bouncy if anything. - Put that down to a lighter wheel??

But from what gleaming, you cannot make a comparison for the TCR as it maybe DCC, but its a different set up, and my hope is comfort on the TCR would be like normal on the R? if thats about right that would be great - Not overly bothered if ride really firms up in race/sport on TCR as given pressed that button then its really what seeking in sharper experience.

The other concern is the traction on getaway, as again my GTD used to tramp and thats circa 100 BHP less than the TCR

So just get an R would really be the answer but there has always been a hankering for a GTI, always been on list to tick since a kid, and personally really like this version which has a lot more style and appeal than the more capable R - Style vs practicality.

[hog_hedge]

Poor TCR.

[Jim_mk7.5]

Lucky they aren't a limited number!! 

[hog_hedge]

Lucky they aren't a limited number!! 

Ouch

[Jim_mk7.5]

Poor TCR.

Panic over for the forums member with one on order in Grey as its LHD! 

Obviously it's fallen off the factory train. Someone's having a bad day at work...

[AGB]

Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height! 

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Its not really ride height itself that querying its the ride itself, as most, despite its leaning to track will never take it near a track and it will spend its life on UK roads - that article was more promising in terms of the DCC making the ride comfortable for the times when you are commuting around.

The DCC on my GTD was a revelation, loved it, appropriately firm in Sport and soft and cossetted in comfort

The DCC on my R was a surprise as expected the ride to be a little more compromised on the 19" Pretoria but it was opposite, where normal on the R = Comfort on the GTD and comfort on R is in fact a little too bouncy if anything. - Put that down to a lighter wheel??

But from what gleaming, you cannot make a comparison for the TCR as it maybe DCC, but its a different set up, and my hope is comfort on the TCR would be like normal on the R? if thats about right that would be great - Not overly bothered if ride really firms up in race/sport on TCR as given pressed that button then its really what seeking in sharper experience.

The other concern is the traction on getaway, as again my GTD used to tramp and thats circa 100 BHP less than the TCR

So just get an R would really be the answer but there has always been a hankering for a GTI, always been on list to tick since a kid, and personally really like this version which has a lot more style and appeal than the more capable R - Style vs practicality.

You sound like you want a GTI. If you're going to get any GTI, I'd suggest this would be a good one to scratch the itch with.

Until someone does a back to back review comparing the GTI Performance to the TCR and R, I think we're going to be left to speculate. That said, there are sufficient variables with wheel, tyre choices and software for you to be able to get the car as you want but I'd be surprised if VW hadn't made it liveable with day to day. If the marketing is to be believed, there is a unique setup on the TCR and only driving an R and GTI PP back to back will give a sense of feel but then to ensure a fair comparison, you'd need the same wheel/tyre combination and I don't think any of the reviews are conducted with that level of rigour so are slightly subjective as road tests.

What I took away from the Motoring Research article is that the car is great on the roads that I would expect it to be good on. It won't match straight line speed with AWD on the R of course but the reviewer commented that the power/weight translated in the curves and 290 is still a lot of power for a FWD hot hatch.

I know what you mean about tramping, I have it with the GTD but it doesn't happen that often. I've more or less come to recognise the conditions where it'll occur and ease off in anticipation but it's the least appealing trait of the car. I did change the map on the GTD at one point and it was on about 220/490 but it introduced terrible torque steer and exaggerated the tramping so reversed it. I would have had to undertake a lot more tuning which I wasn't interested in spending money on but did think to check the geo and it was all over the place. I had the geo properly set by JZM and it made a substantial difference as did a change of tyres.

[Watts]

Couldn’t see if this review has been shared. Suggests they should have called it a GTI Performance Plus which actually sounds pretty spot on.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-gti-tcr/

Mentions the ride height which with adaptive dampers is 5mm lower only than a GTI P and the 20mm is ride height difference is between a GTI and a standard Golf.

Good and fair review I thought. I wonder if they could have offered a sequential gearbox, similar to what Abarth did with the dog ring box in the 695 Biposto to create a stronger TCR link. Instead we're left debating mm differences in ride height! 

They mention tyres in the article, does anyone know what they ship with as standard on the 19" wheels? The Motor Research review shows a close up with 19" Pretorias running on Pirelli PZeros and from the plate, I'm guessing that's one of the press cars as it has appeared in several articles. I'm not sure where the Michelin option exists per the article.

Its not really ride height itself that querying its the ride itself, as most, despite its leaning to track will never take it near a track and it will spend its life on UK roads - that article was more promising in terms of the DCC making the ride comfortable for the times when you are commuting around.

The DCC on my GTD was a revelation, loved it, appropriately firm in Sport and soft and cossetted in comfort

The DCC on my R was a surprise as expected the ride to be a little more compromised on the 19" Pretoria but it was opposite, where normal on the R = Comfort on the GTD and comfort on R is in fact a little too bouncy if anything. - Put that down to a lighter wheel??

But from what gleaming, you cannot make a comparison for the TCR as it maybe DCC, but its a different set up, and my hope is comfort on the TCR would be like normal on the R? if thats about right that would be great - Not overly bothered if ride really firms up in race/sport on TCR as given pressed that button then its really what seeking in sharper experience.

The other concern is the traction on getaway, as again my GTD used to tramp and thats circa 100 BHP less than the TCR

So just get an R would really be the answer but there has always been a hankering for a GTI, always been on list to tick since a kid, and personally really like this version which has a lot more style and appeal than the more capable R - Style vs practicality.

Are you perhaps over thinking it? I know it's an important decision but you want one so why not? The ride is not going to be terrible, it'll be absolutely fine and tramping can be 95% controlled with the right tyres. Since you seem to change your cars every few years it's not like you'll be stuck with it forever. I bet you'll love it

[AGB]

Poor TCR.

Panic over for the forums member with one on order in Grey as its LHD! 

Obviously it's fallen off the factory train. Someone's having a bad day at work...

Funnily enough, I got an email this morning from the dealer saying that the car had been built and then I saw this. Then I saw it was LHD.