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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: 2007GTI on 22 June 2017, 11:23
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After going to the dark side, I'm in the market for a 2nd hand Mk7.
I'm looking for:
DSG
5 door
Black or Carbon Grey
Performance Pack
Anything to look out for? I was reading about some peeps having issues with rear shocks knocking?
Thanks All
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Hi. I've got a 2013 gti, pp, dsg, dcc, acc, keyless, heated leather, 3 door and it's been faultless baring an electric water pump failure. Can't recommend it enough so check it out, make sure it's been serviced and then put a silly grin on your face
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Not sure what age car you're looking for, or what your budget is, but be aware there are a few early GTi's out there that don't have the ACC system fitted. You can identify these as there is no sensor fitted in the lower front grille.
5 door cars built from week 22 2015 onwards should have sat nav, heated front seats and keyless entry as standard. These were all optional extras on earlier cars.
Some owners have reported issues early days with the optional 19 inch wheels, in that they were allegedly prone to buckling.
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thanks both, I'm looking for around 2014/15, around 20k mark, appreciate the heads up
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I realise it is a fair bit more but if you could stretch the budget, drive the deal can do a brand new one in the spec you want for £26800. Might be worth considering?
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Thanks Watts. Funnily enough I am a fan of Drive the Deal and was looking the other day. I just can't quite justify a new car, as I don't do a lot of miles, as nice as it would be.
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Thanks Watts. Funnily enough I am a fan of Drive the Deal and was looking the other day. I just can't quite justify a new car, as I don't do a lot of miles, as nice as it would be.
How long are you going to be keeping it for? Then see what the difference between if you bought a new one now and how much of a difference there will be between that and a 2014/2015 car at the same point in the future.
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That did cross my mind, I kept my Mk5 for nearly 8 years, so you may have a point there!
on another note, I phoned up about this one and it has had 3 owners, put me off this one
http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201705135401067
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One may have been the original dealer if it was an ex-demo but I'd be a bit suspicious too. Still, plenty more fish etc. Have you looked on the VW used cars site? New cars are going up £400 soon so if you do decide on that best do so sharpish.
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Yes I have been looking there, cheers.
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Keep an eye on vw used cars locator. I found 2015 DSG PP for 20900 with sub 9k mileage last autumn.
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If you didnt mind a manual then my old car is in evans halshaw Middlesbrough.. 5900 mile black 5 dr pp 19" alloys April 2016, they actually paid me more for it than it is now selling for....no problems with it I just needed the money for a house purchase.
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thanks, but I went auto 10 years ago and won't go back now
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I've been doing some calculations today, on if I buy a 3 year old car, versus brand new.
So 2014 car, 5dr, DSG, performance pack, met paint, with around 30k, for around £17,000-£19,000 (depending on options and if private or dealer), take in to account deprecation, servicing, front discs and pads change, DSG oil change, tyres, brake fluid change.
Versus same car Brand new one, with DTD discount, albeit with only Met paint option, I don't need anything else, that obviously wouldn't need any of the above bar brake fluid, and servicing with is £149 for 2 years with PCP at the moment.
If you work out deprecation and all the additional costs of owning a 3 year old for 3 years, there is barely any difference, a couple of hundreds quid, depending on purchase cost, and obviously final mileage and condition, I only do 6k a year, so it would be a very low miler.
It might actually be a no brainer to order a new one after all, thanks Watts!
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I've been doing some calculations today, on if I buy a 3 year old car, versus brand new.
So 2014 car, 5dr, DSG, performance pack, met paint, with around 30k, for around £17,000-£19,000 (depending on options and if private or dealer), take in to account deprecation, servicing, front discs and pads change, DSG oil change, tyres, brake fluid change.
Versus same car Brand new one, with DTD discount, albeit with only Met paint option, I don't need anything else, that obviously wouldn't need any of the above bar brake fluid, and servicing with is £149 for 2 years with PCP at the moment.
If you work out deprecation and all the additional costs of owning a 3 year old for 3 years, there is barely any difference, a couple of hundreds quid, depending on purchase cost, and obviously final mileage and condition, I only do 6k a year, so it would be a very low miler.
It might actually be a no brainer to order a new one after all, thanks Watts!
Plus a new on will have a 3 year warranty and in my case that is a very often needed option.
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OP - glad to be of help :smiley: Do be quick though, £400 increase imminent....
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Yes, I'm going to get on it tomorrow.
Also what are peoples thoughts on climate windscreen, it is the only option I'd go for, worth the extra?
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I'm sure it's good but I find the defrost function on the climate control to be pretty good. If it was cheap though, I'd get it. On the MK7 though you used to have to combine it with something else, to do with mobile reception iirc which made it a bit pricey, especially if like me you didn't use a mobile in the car...
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Thanks, yes I remember it was oddly paired with mobile something or other, now its £295, so not too bad.
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You used to have to have it with advanced phone prep because the climate windscreen interfered with the mobile signal (I'm not sure it actually did, my wife's car has a heated from screen and it makes no difference at all)
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I would say Climate Windscreen was worth getting if you could afford. I went through the whole of last winter without having to scrape my windscreen as climate windscreen did a good enough job clearing the frost and ice. It took around 3-4 minutes max to defrost the windscreen. I suspect it will cost a fair bit to replace if it gets damaged. But the benefits I have experienced out weigh the negatives of cost. Which is why I say get it if you can afford it.
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I've spec'd Climate Windscreen on my GTD :smiley:
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I'm resurrecting my old thread.
I'm finding it hard to find a car in the south that meets my spec:
GTI, 64 or 15 plate, 5 door, Performance Pack, 5 door, Black or Carbon Grey with 18" wheels (not 19"), with up to 30k miles, with no options, for £19k-20k, pref with 1 owner.
It seems most performance pack cars have 19" wheels. Maybe there is just a lack of cars the moment, it being summer and people aren't changing cars, and are on holiday. Theres a few private sale ones, but they most have loads of owners! The dealer cars seems expensive for what they are IMHO.
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There is loads on eBay and auto trader :smiley:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2015-65-VW-GOLF-GTI-3-DR-220-LAUNCH-DSG-26K-FSH-CARBON-STEEL-GREY-/262964931927?hash=item3d39ee6d57:g:qqAAAOSwrhBZCZvT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-14-VW-Golf-Gti-Performance-DSG-5-door-Black-with-Black-leather-/142438298761?hash=item2129fbf489:g:4UAAAOSwx3NZX2N5
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Thanks, I do know know to use the web, the first one you posted is 3 door, I couldn't live with a 3 door.
Second one I have seen, but is slghtly too high miles and 200 miles away from me!
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I'm resurrecting my old thread.
I'm finding it hard to find a car in the south that meets my spec:
GTI, 64 or 15 plate, 5 door, Performance Pack, 5 door, Black or Carbon Grey with 18" wheels (not 19"), with up to 30k miles, with no options, for £19k-20k, pref with 1 owner.
It seems most performance pack cars have 19" wheels. Maybe there is just a lack of cars the moment, it being summer and people aren't changing cars, and are on holiday. Theres a few private sale ones, but they most have loads of owners! The dealer cars seems expensive for what they are IMHO.
There's a very nice R 2014 5dr, Dsg, lapis, sat Nav ,28k miles fish on auto trader. Asking 19995 reckon 19000 pos. Why not an R over a PP any day, believe me. At similar money.
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Loads of used R about now at about £20k and most have 18" wheels as they were leased and owners didn't want to pay for options. Sounds a much better option than a similar age GTi.
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I am sure someone would happily swap their 18 for you 19 if you find the right car.
My old gt I pp in black 5900 miles 5 door i was the only owned no knocks but is a manual, it's on a 16 plate £21,500 ish I really looked after the paintwork too so it should be swirl free, if you could lose your dsg.
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I'm resurrecting my old thread.
I'm finding it hard to find a car in the south that meets my spec:
GTI, 64 or 15 plate, 5 door, Performance Pack, 5 door, Black or Carbon Grey with 18" wheels (not 19"), with up to 30k miles, with no options, for £19k-20k, pref with 1 owner.
It seems most performance pack cars have 19" wheels. Maybe there is just a lack of cars the moment, it being summer and people aren't changing cars, and are on holiday. Theres a few private sale ones, but they most have loads of owners! The dealer cars seems expensive for what they are IMHO.
There's a very nice R 2014 5dr, Dsg, lapis, sat Nav ,28k miles fish on auto trader. Asking 19995 reckon 19000 pos. Why not an R over a PP any day, believe me. At similar money.
It's been mentioned many times on here....not everyone wants an R, despite it being arguably the better all round car.
I always wanted a Golf GTI, so I bought one. If I'd wanted an R, I would have bought one of them instead.
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I agree, if I wanted an R, I'd get one. Nothing against a R, but from my research and the fact there are so many for sale, they don't seen as desirable as GTI and then add the extra to tax and insure, an R will be probably hard to move on when I sell. So a GTI it is for me. Also on an R, I can't stand the silver wing mirrors and the wheels don't do it for me either. However Lapiz blue is a great colour. You win some, you loose some.
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I'm resurrecting my old thread.
I'm finding it hard to find a car in the south that meets my spec:
GTI, 64 or 15 plate, 5 door, Performance Pack, 5 door, Black or Carbon Grey with 18" wheels (not 19"), with up to 30k miles, with no options, for £19k-20k, pref with 1 owner.
It seems most performance pack cars have 19" wheels. Maybe there is just a lack of cars the moment, it being summer and people aren't changing cars, and are on holiday. Theres a few private sale ones, but they most have loads of owners! The dealer cars seems expensive for what they are IMHO.
There's a very nice R 2014 5dr, Dsg, lapis, sat Nav ,28k miles fish on auto trader. Asking 19995 reckon 19000 pos. Why not an R over a PP any day, believe me. At similar money.
It's been mentioned many times on here....not everyone wants an R, despite it being arguably the better all round car.
I always wanted a Golf GTI, so I bought one. If I'd wanted an R, I would have bought one of them instead.
Mate, I've had 6 generations of GTI and my R is the best, words can't describe really. My better half has a mk7 GTI which is great,but believe me If you really had the choice , no contest not just the power but the grip, traction is something else. Maybe I have a good one, all I know is I could have bought a much more expensive car, name it, but the R is all anyone would need, lottery win or not. :wink:
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I had the choice and still chose a pp gti. As good as the R was I just felt the gti was a better car for me so not everyone goes for an R :wink:
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I'm resurrecting my old thread.
I'm finding it hard to find a car in the south that meets my spec:
GTI, 64 or 15 plate, 5 door, Performance Pack, 5 door, Black or Carbon Grey with 18" wheels (not 19"), with up to 30k miles, with no options, for £19k-20k, pref with 1 owner.
It seems most performance pack cars have 19" wheels. Maybe there is just a lack of cars the moment, it being summer and people aren't changing cars, and are on holiday. Theres a few private sale ones, but they most have loads of owners! The dealer cars seems expensive for what they are IMHO.
There's a very nice R 2014 5dr, Dsg, lapis, sat Nav ,28k miles fish on auto trader. Asking 19995 reckon 19000 pos. Why not an R over a PP any day, believe me. At similar money.
It's been mentioned many times on here....not everyone wants an R, despite it being arguably the better all round car.
I always wanted a Golf GTI, so I bought one. If I'd wanted an R, I would have bought one of them instead.
Mate, I've had 6 generations of GTI and my R is the best, words can't describe really. My better half has a mk7 GTI which is great,but believe me If you really had the choice , no contest not just the power but the grip, traction is something else. Maybe I have a good one, all I know is I could have bought a much more expensive car, name it, but the R is all anyone would need, lottery win or not. :wink:
I sure you believe you are right but it doesn't make it so.
I really did have the choice but still chose to get a GTI, as hard is it obviously is for you to get your head round :rolleyes:
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I think the GTI and R are different enough mechanically and certainly in perception and associations, to appeal to different kinds of buyers.
For myself; I could have afforded an R, but like the understated GTI all-rounder because I don't need or will ever use the R performance.
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I think the GTI and R are different enough mechanically and certainly in perception and associations, to appeal to different kinds of buyers.
For myself; I could have afforded an R, but like the understated GTI all-rounder because I don't need or will ever use the R performance.
Fair enough, understated blimey? I personally think the 7.5 R is as or more understated than the equivalent GTI. The point I'm making is I have both on the driveway so unlike others here have the opportunity to use both and therefore can make a definitive judgement, as any car tester sure it's down to personal opinion.
When you say afford, depends if one is a cash purchaser or lease, the cash price I paid was very close to a similar specced PP, a no brainer. IMO!!!!
If the R didn't exist I'd have a PP for sure. :wink:
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I think the GTI and R are different enough mechanically and certainly in perception and associations, to appeal to different kinds of buyers.
For myself; I could have afforded an R, but like the understated GTI all-rounder because I don't need or will ever use the R performance.
Fair enough, understated blimey? I personally think the 7.5 R is as or more understated than the equivalent GTI. The point I'm making is I have both on the driveway so unlike others here have the opportunity to use both and therefore can make a definitive judgement, as any car tester sure it's down to personal opinion.
When you say afford, depends if one is a cash purchaser or lease, the cash price I paid was very close to a similar specced PP, a no brainer. IMO!!!!
If the R didn't exist I'd have a PP for sure. :wink:
I don't doubt what you say and if I'd have test driven an R then perhaps I wouldn't have been able to resist but for me, one look at the GTI tartan seats and red interior leds and I just had to have it, very desirable plus I hadn't had a GTI before and felt the need to fix that and see what the fuss was all about. I very rarely get to drive mine in a manner that ever tests the performance let alone that with an R so to pay daily at the pumps without the benefit of the extra power didn't make sense. Grip wise, the GTI is mega, the only exception being occasionally traction off the line in the wet but tbh, where I live that is rarely an issue with traffic and cameras.... Would I ever buy an R though? I certainly wouldn't rule one out, maybe next time :wink:
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I've seen this, a bit above my price bracket, but has nice extras like DCC and leather, but no Sat Nav.
I couldn't care less about having Nav, but what about resale, is it worth having for the fact might be easier to sell on with in built Nav?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201708168386549
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I think that car's biggest problem is the price, £21.5k for a 2014 model? That sounds a bit excessive. DCC and leather (if you like it, I prefer the tartan and the 'leather' afaik isn't 100% leather anyway, large portions of faux) are as you say nice but really not essential, lack of satnav wouldn't put me off but might others. I'd say wait a couple of weeks for all the trade-ins to show up and get something newer for the same or less.
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Cheers watts, yeah I was planning on waiting until early Sept, and pref get 2015 with keyles and Nav as standard.
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Cheers watts, yeah I was planning on waiting until early Sept, and pref get 2015 with keyles and Nav as standard.
Sounds sensible, any other extras will be a bonus!
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I've found a 64 plate 5dr GTI DSG PP, in Carbon Grey, Discover Pro, leather, keyless, pan roof, rear camera, 23k, FVWSH, 1 owner, sounds perfect, but it's £21,995 at a Main dealer.
Thoughts?
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It sounds a well specced car. Have you asked the dealer if there is any significant movement on the asking price?
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I have, they tried to play, come and drive it and we'll talk game, but I don't have time for that, so I've gone in hard and asked for £1000 off, see what they say. :laugh:
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I have, they tried to play, come and drive it and we'll talk game, but I don't have time for that, so I've gone in hard and asked for £1000 off, see what they say. :laugh:
Definitely worth a try however the game can work both ways. By investing time with you and going out for a test drive you 1 demonstrate you are more serious and 2 they may be persuaded to negotiate more as they have invested time in you and will want to close the deal. It's much easier to say no to an email (or ignore it).
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True, this was over the phone not email and Ive been there so many times before, sitting at the desk, waiting hours for the salesman/woman to go back and forth to sales manager and wearing you down, squeezing every last penny out of you, I'm just not interested in that. This is how much I want to pay, if you don't want to deal, I won't waste eachothers time. Bosh. or should that be Bosch! :whistle:
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It's a good spec, but £22k for a 3 year old Golf seems mighty expensive to me.
How many of those options are 'must have'?
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Yeah I'm beginning to think that myself. I could live without any of those options to be honest. I guess I'll keep looking.
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It's a good spec, but £22k for a 3 year old Golf seems mighty expensive to me.
How many of those options are 'must have'?
Agreed. £19,995 more like
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I've found a 64 plate 5dr GTI DSG PP, in Carbon Grey, Discover Pro, leather, keyless, pan roof, rear camera, 23k, FVWSH, 1 owner, sounds perfect, but it's £21,995 at a Main dealer.
Thoughts?
There seems to be plenty of choice around the £21,000 mark
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-gti-5dr-dsg-performance-pack/7315706
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Thanks but I could not live with a white car, or one with 19" wheels, it has to be Carbon Grey or Black on 18"s.
I've found a 64 plate 5dr GTI DSG PP, in Carbon Grey, Discover Pro, leather, keyless, pan roof, rear camera, 23k, FVWSH, 1 owner, sounds perfect, but it's £21,995 at a Main dealer.
Thoughts?
There seems to be plenty of choice around the £21,000 mark
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-gti-5dr-dsg-performance-pack/7315706
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Thanks but I could not live with a white car, or one with 19" wheels, it has to be Carbon Grey or Black on 18"s.
You're a good judge :wink:
I've found a 64 plate 5dr GTI DSG PP, in Carbon Grey, Discover Pro, leather, keyless, pan roof, rear camera, 23k, FVWSH, 1 owner, sounds perfect, but it's £21,995 at a Main dealer.
Thoughts?
There seems to be plenty of choice around the £21,000 mark
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-tsi-gti-5dr-dsg-performance-pack/7315706
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this is more like it, just miles from me
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-hatchback-2-0-tsi-gti-5dr-dsg-performance-pack-nav--2016-66/7642044
** UPDATE, It is mis advertised, it is not a performance pack on DVLA
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this is more like it, just miles from me
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-hatchback-2-0-tsi-gti-5dr-dsg-performance-pack-nav--2016-66/7642044
** UPDATE, It is mis advertised, it is not a performance pack on DVLA
Yeah you can see from the front brakes that it is not a PP model.
(https://s5.postimg.org/5izaqk9k7/PPvs_Non_PP_brakes.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Thanks, thats very helpful, I've never seen a side by side before!
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Dealer didn't get back to me for 48 hours, said they can't knock £1000 off, no surprises, so Im going elsewhere.
I have, they tried to play, come and drive it and we'll talk game, but I don't have time for that, so I've gone in hard and asked for £1000 off, see what they say. :laugh:
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this is more like it, just miles from me
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-hatchback-2-0-tsi-gti-5dr-dsg-performance-pack-nav--2016-66/7642044
** UPDATE, It is mis advertised, it is not a performance pack on DVLA
Yeah you can see from the front brakes that it is not a PP model.
(https://s5.postimg.org/5izaqk9k7/PPvs_Non_PP_brakes.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Are the PP brakes the same as those fitted to the R?
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Yes.
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Bit older than I would of liked, and no NAV, but looks tidy for the price
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709018877187
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Do you really want a 3 year old car which will likely be out of it's VW warranty? It looks good though but I'd be tempted to look for something newer since the budget is there. Also I'd say you really need to go to look at cars, I wanted a carbon grey DSG and ended up with a red manual - because I viewed, tested and wanted it. Looking online is not the way to buy, in the flesh is best.
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Thanks. Already tested 2 actually! Good point on warranty, ta. Deffo want DSG, love Carbon grey, so just keep looking!
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Thanks. Already tested 2 actually! Good point on warranty, ta. Deffo want DSG, love Carbon grey, so just keep looking!
Okay, sorry! The right one will come up, hopefully for you, soon :smiley:
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Finally found a car, pick it up Friday. Went for non performance pack in the end, but all other boxes ticked.
One thing, dealer said there isn't a soundaktor in the GTI, only GTD, bullsh!t right?
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Finally found a car, pick it up Friday. Went did non performance pack in the end, but all other boxes ticked.
One thing, dealer said there isn't a soundaktor in the GTI, only GTD, bullsh!t right?
Right. There is.
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Thanks!
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Well done! Now all that's left to do once you pick it up is to enjoy it!
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Thanks Watts. Picked up, all good, very happy!
Well done! Now all that's left to do once you pick it up is to enjoy it!