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Title: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: steve.gti on 22 April 2012, 12:08
hi, What is best for trackdays, a mk4 2.0 or a mk4 1.8 turbo, not looking for a car with big power, just want to have fun and importantly be very reliable.

steve
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: murraymint on 22 April 2012, 12:19
I'd say 1.8t
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: F17BAD on 22 April 2012, 14:09
did i read that right? 2.0 8v mk4 ??

jesus.. that was the very worst GTI ever.. and that engine is nowt but trouble.. AVOID
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: steve.gti on 22 April 2012, 14:47
If i go for the 1.8T, what are the best mods for good reliable power

steve
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: johnnyvr6 on 22 April 2012, 15:20
non tbh get a mk2 gti 16v
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: Diamond Hell on 22 April 2012, 15:48
non tbh get a mk2 gti 16v

Or cheaper and probably more reliable - a Golf3 16V.
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: Wayne on 22 April 2012, 22:12
A better bet would be a mk2 or as DH said even a mk3, if it has to be a mk4 then a 1.8t
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: tweed on 23 April 2012, 15:26
Mk2 gti with mk3 abf engine and wide track suspension
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: danny_p on 30 April 2012, 00:01
personaly wouldnt track a mk4.

2.slow would just be boreing.  and 1.8T's can get very expensive in the matance department when been worked hard,   they drop valves a bit to often for my likeing when run at high rpm lots and the turbos while fine on fast road cars are just not upto heavy track use
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: benjc on 02 May 2012, 23:08
i track my mk 4, wouldnt say its that boring tbh. only had to give way to catehams and superpower cars on my last outing.
i have a 18t mk4 that ive done biased around track days. not fully stripped but done enough to it for a good track car. its not to bad tbh, heavy yes but its a golf. they are heavy. had problems with brakes overheating but ducting has sorted it. did 145 miles round combe on mon and it was fine. next track car wont be a 1.8t though or a golf, but spent to much for now so i'll enjoy it for a bit longer first.
next car needs to be n/a for me i think

that said you dont fancy buyin it steve?
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: andybod on 05 May 2012, 16:58
i track my mk 4, wouldnt say its that boring tbh. only had to give way to catehams and superpower cars on my last outing.
i have a 18t mk4 that ive done biased around track days. not fully stripped but done enough to it for a good track car. its not to bad tbh, heavy yes but its a golf. they are heavy. had problems with brakes overheating but ducting has sorted it. did 145 miles round combe on mon and it was fine. next track car wont be a 1.8t though or a golf, but spent to much for now so i'll enjoy it for a bit longer first.
next car needs to be n/a for me i think

that said you dont fancy buyin it steve?

Sorry o/t but any pics of your brake ducting I'm having similar problems, my mk4 1.8t is slowly becoming my dedicated track car I find it good fun on the track it'll be stripped out and caged later this year I wouldn't use a mk non turbo but the 20vt can be quite usable cheap to buy ,tune and maintain with no problems sourcing parts
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: benjc on 08 May 2012, 23:56
Hi andy of topic but
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/425168.aspx
The pics aren't the best of the ducts but they make a good difference.
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: andybod on 09 May 2012, 19:14
Hi andy of topic but
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/425168.aspx
The pics aren't the best of the ducts but they make a good difference.

excellent thanks shall be looking into this  :wink:
Title: Re: a mk4 2.0 or mk4 1.8 turbo, whats best for trackdays
Post by: golf-sib on 18 May 2012, 16:27
1.8t followed by:

remap
descent disk pad combo
braided brake hoses
brake ducts
better suspension, stock suspension is rubbish
strip it

its a reliable car, there's many things you can bypass on the later models that give you a headache like n249 and n112, put things back to basic like on the AGU. Easy to work on and reliable providing you don't get a complete lemon. It's easy to work on aswell, plenty of tuning options.

I will be replacing the mk4 next year for the mk1 TT and swapping heads over from the golf and doing a full engine rebuild. Stock rod last around the 300mark, valves go at around 350, pistons at 400... so not a bad engine internally for tuning the 1.8T's.