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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Dizzie on 19 March 2004, 23:23

Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Dizzie on 19 March 2004, 23:23
you're not still going on about this are you!
you really have too much time on your hands matey.

every place you look it says 1 car weighs more or less than the next place you look.

the only way to get a true mesurement is to put 2 cars on exactly the same scales and have them weighed.
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Cupra Turbo on 19 March 2004, 23:35
Yeah well i dont have all 15 cars and I also dont have any scales big enough ... so I scowered the web looking at peoples webpages about their golf's and everything.

Im just hoping this will give a better representative than Overseer's chart that he often posts. His chart makes out all mk2's, mk3's and mk4's weigh the same ... which they dont... their very different.

Anywayz, since I wont be around tomorrow night, you can all have a good banter  ;)

PS: Hopefully jv will remove all these replies.
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Danr on 19 March 2004, 23:43
well according to your graph my mk1 has 172bhp per ton, gonna kick a vr6 ass when its out of garage, plus dizzies mk2 turbo if mine is 145bhp as tsr say
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Cupra Turbo on 19 March 2004, 23:57
for crying out loud, im talking standard cars. If I put a MG Xpower 1000Bhp thing in mine, id blow u all ...

this graph represents the STANDARD car. and btw im NOT quoting 0-60 times or top speeds... im quoting power-to-weight ... u really thing the mk2 and mk3 8v's can beat a 150PD mk4 in a race? or even 0-60?  LOL ...

*knew this would happen* ... theres more to making a car go fast than bhp and weights.  ... what about grip? torque? ...
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Dinky on 20 March 2004, 00:04
Danr-nice lookin golf! ;D
Black,know u took alot of time over this,not havin a go,but wot is it with all u peps who r like-"my car is more powerful than urs" kind of thing? I just love me car-simple as!If i wanted a fast car,wudn buy a golf cos,like mine,they r known for their bulk.(mines actually called the tank at work!)
Understand the need for discussion etc but dont want another action replay of the last post-"cudn have a mk1 or mk2"(whatever)
i like this site,enjoy havin abit banter but please dont lets this one make everyone start arguin again.This is not just directed towards u black!

Dinky  :-*
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: vixteris on 20 March 2004, 00:10
well said dinky.   ;) :D

did we all not come across this site because we put 'golf' or 'gti' in the search engine.  all this mines better than yours stuff is getting a bit repetitive.  ::)  

lets just enjoy being dubbers please and love eachother no matter how fat and ugly our cars are :-*
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: golfvr6 on 20 March 2004, 00:15
MK3 VR6 is only beaten by an R32  :D :D
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Cupra Turbo on 20 March 2004, 00:16
Yeah but the graph might be useful as a reference and for people looking into buying a Golf GTi ... people like to know stuff and this saves em scowering the web for data.

Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Dizzie on 20 March 2004, 00:20
mine will have 254bhp/ton if it weighs 945kgs ;D I can live with that
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Dinky on 20 March 2004, 00:22
Fair point black,is useful! ;D
Helpful addition to the site! ;D (n im not being sarcy)

Dinky  :-*
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Cupra Turbo on 20 March 2004, 00:24
thank you dinky

and Dizzie, take into consideration your larger (heavier) alloys, your ICE, your different engine, which weighs more... etc etc

 ;)
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Dizzie on 20 March 2004, 00:29
and i'm fat  :'(
I can't help myself. since mcdonalds brought out the big tasty I can't resist them. they pray on me. watching in glee as my big tub of lard of a body clumbersumly wobbles through the door.
 :'(
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Cupra Turbo on 20 March 2004, 00:36
take all that into consideration and ur car weighs 1450kg = R32 lol.

u own an R32... congrats mate!
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Blue MK2 on 20 March 2004, 08:43
ok black GTi u won this round ;)
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 20 March 2004, 10:10
i thought mk2 16v had 149bhp per tonne? anyway someone already done a graph here

(http://www.campaignregister.co.uk/images/graph1.jpg)

this one is much prettier ;D
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Overseer on 20 March 2004, 10:25
nice graphs :)

would be cool to see the chart sorted :)

you missed one. there are two v5 variants just like the 1.8T.

The slower one is 150 bhp (1998 -> 1999) as opposed to 170 bhp (2000 and on)
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Cupra Turbo on 20 March 2004, 14:50
I didnt realise there were two different V5's ... I'll make alterations at some point... too busy today and tonight im out on the piss.

as for the other graph

(http://www.campaignregister.co.uk/images/graph1.jpg)

Does the 8v, 16v and VR6 weigh the same?

Does the 8v and 16v mk2 weigh the same?

Does the 8v, 1.8T, V5, V6 4Motion and R32 mk4's all weigh the same? seems they all weigh 1200Kg.... if only ey..


Erm no. So that graph is as much use as jumping off a cliff.

Its too general... I actually took "time" to make mine.
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: richy on 20 March 2004, 17:59
What's all this about....
Quote


I would appreciate it if JV or another admin/moderator could remove any replies this thread gets, and also sticky and lock it. ... Oh and remove this line of text whilst your doing that. cheerz.


.. why bother posting something if you don't want any replies?

Rich.
P.S. You missed out my model (1.8 20v Non turbo 125bhp)!
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Dizzie on 20 March 2004, 21:43
I might be down sizing my ice to reclaim my boot and reduce the weight a bit. we'll see. :)
Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: gibby on 21 March 2004, 14:35
Black, if it's any consolation I thought it was quite interesting and it must have taken you a bit of time to collate all this data so hat off to you matey.

I now know how much bhp my little car has so thanks.

Title: Re:Golf GTI Generations - Power To Weight Ratio
Post by: Cupra Turbo on 21 March 2004, 18:32
Thanx gibby ... nice to know my work wasnt "completely" slagged off.

I'll add the 150bhp V5 and the 125Bhp None Turbo GTI too ... I'll have to find out the weights tho .. so it might be awhile cos Ive got no free time  ...