F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO

[Wayne]

yea i never said it wasnt.

you were wrong tho in regard to thinking the engine is the same as whats found in annies, octavias and normal Cupras

lots of differances, even the early S3 engines (APY CODE) have diferences from the later and better AMK / BAM

Im not to familiar with the details of these engines, what are the variances in power output etc?

It is a minefield tbh, Leon Cupra, Octavia RS and Golf Anni (plus a few non Anni) had 180bhp, Cupra R and early S3 had 210bhp, they then switched to the 225bhp lump, I think the Cupra R ended with the same in the end as well.

[thai-wronghorse]

Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.

[Wayne]

Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.

Well in a roundabout way the 1.8t was 150/180/210 or 225bhp but so many codes etc and some are rated more than others.

[Jamin]

This car is bonkers....I love it and think the S3 badge is a nice touch.

Don't hate the player......have the game  

[tshirt2k]

Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.

Main differences are turbos and vvt. K03 and k03s in normal 1.8t's. These are normally 150/180hp and will remap to 190hp(k03) and 210/225(k03s). The TT/S3/LCR (210/225hp) 1.8t comes with a k04, along with different injectors,vvt and lower compression ratio, will remap to 260/270hp.
That's why these engines are in higher demand.

[F17BAD]

  cheers mate


Regarding engines, theirs so much differences between the engines found in the notmal 20vt cars and then the S3/Cupra R/ Certain TT's

You can easy spot the difference by which side the throttle body is on. On waynes 180bhp, and on all the normal 20vt engines it sites on the left hand side of the inlet manifold

On the high output engines (APY, AMK, BAM) it sits on the right, you also get the bigger K04 turbo on these plus loads of other bits although the APY is not as good as the AMK/BAM.

AMK / BAM have stuff like VVT,

The only difference between the AMK and the Bam engines is the Map on the ECU. Audi wanted the then new out TT to be up on power over the S3 so it was mapped down. later facelift S3 and Cupra R got the Bam too

AMK does have bigger gudgeon pins and is regarded to be the stronger and more sought after (i have this engine in mine )

take a read here

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-forum-8l-chassis/90968-amk-bam-engine.html

and also take a look at this

 


Here is a pic of a Audi TT with the 180bhp engine as found in the annie and Octavia VRS - notich the engine cover shape and also the throttle body on the left



And hereis my AMK S3 lump, look at engine cover and also throttle body to the right. also notice the charge pipes down the left side of the engine, different shape manifold etc




Very sought after engines hence the price they go for (for a good one)

[Wayne]

Very handy guide

[F17BAD]

it is yea, needs a few bits filling in still, but basically AMK / BAM are same , forge crank, vvt large injectors etc

[F17BAD]

Small video with some of the conversion pics all thrown in...

http://youtu.be/xWr-YsCTmVo

 

[thai-wronghorse]

Awesome work and an amazing classic track.