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Title: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: kells on 13 March 2008, 23:32
Thought i may aswell start one of these threads seen as everyone else has them on going....better late than never i guess :grin:

I wont go into everything iv done to date as ill be here all week and im sure u cant be arsed to read that much....

most of this is from previous threads of mine so some of you will have seen parts of this already..

i want to keep this car looking original, (seen as my other car has almost every mod going) i also think the MK 3 looks at its best in OE looking form

only big thing i intend to do is the 20VT engine swap.

a few pics here after its first clean when i took over ownership, only additions here were new numberplates and a black rear VW badge.

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4678/golffront2kn8.jpg)

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3325/golkback1km2.jpg)

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7946/golfinteriorsh9.jpg)

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/915/golfclocksik4.jpg)


I had a job on fixing all the bits that didnt work, New sunroof was first on the list, then i fitted a simple but affective sound system (a must in my line of work :cool:), Alpine HU (of course!) Rainbow Germanline Comonents up front, focal Coax in the back, A Focal 10 inch sub box lives in the boot and its all currently powered by a pheonix Gold amp... it sounds great.

Added a genuine VR deep splitter to the front and i also eventually sourced some Hella smoked twin headlights and had some covers sprayed black to match the car..

i then gave the engine a K&N induction kit as for some strange reason my car was terrible in first gear (very jumpy and stalled easy)
the K&N induction kit amazingly solved this :cool:. Didn’t like the crap mounting kit that came with it so I manufactured one out of 304 stainless and polished it up…as you do :tongue:

i then set about giving the grotty unloved and never cleaned engine a good clean, this is still a on going process but we are getting their..when i got the car, the engine was probably one of the most dirty and stained bays i have ever seen...it was sooooo bad. :rolleyes:

next up the dash needed a update, i wanted rid of all the green lighting that comes as standard


Got these clocks instead of the standard blacks, these are the genuine anniversary units

(http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/968/clocksoutcar1th9.jpg)

These will be subject to some major reworking of the green lighting they have as standard (see results below)

Heater controls / rear heated screen switch

(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2622/heatertoday1ii3.jpg)

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(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4702/0001367kg4.jpg)

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Rear ashtray, first pic is of it unlit, and as its so hard to see what the hell is going on in the second pic of it, the light goes under the white dot, and basically illuminates this and a panel that lights the inside of the ashtray

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5448/ashtrayunlitwy2.jpg)

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9760/ashtrayresiseps9.jpg)


Electric Window and Electric mirror switch

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Sunroof switch, i had to take this with flash on as they are so bright it just looks like a dot if not hahah :grin:

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/39/sunroofswitchmd7.jpg)


Needed to remove the Green leds from the mileages and clock displays

The late style clocks including my anniversay items dont have the push/twist fit user replacable bulbs like the early ones do, i nhave had to totally desolder the entire clocks, which take s a long time and nerves of steel  :laugh:

the MAF/Mileage displays are lit not by bulbs and green filters but by CHIP LEDS

The illusive Chip Leds can be seen here, iv put these next to my keys just so you can see how tiny these are... you need a steady hand to work with these, they are plasic so burn if the soldering iron touch them..so go steady


(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1992/keyspic5ob4.jpg)

the chip leds are vitually impossible to find, but i did and i soldered them back in place of the old ones (Not easy to do haha)

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5451/mileagelcd2xl6.jpg)

We are now BLUE, but as you can see they are so bright i cant get focus at all, trust me these are bright as hell and look amazing and super clear to read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  well worth the hard work


(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9025/mileagelcdui8.jpg)

here they are using the flash, you can still see how blue they are with the flash on


(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/624/dialslitwd7.jpg)

cant get focus on the displays at all, this is with them dimmed a little too, you cant see the mileage and time on the pics but can in person, they are superb

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8674/dialslitwithflashbu9.jpg)

Took this with the flash turned on just so you can see the displays better

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4647/headlightswitchbp6.jpg)

Red headlight switch :)

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3683/toggleswitchfm8.jpg)

my original sunroof toggle switch i changed to red is now put aside

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9519/sunroofbuttonsyh1.jpg)

coz at the mo im rocking the later type Button switch (thanx to the salvage mk 4 clocks for the red chip leds)
these use the exact same type chip leds as the ones iv used in the LCD displays, i had to use red warning ones out of some mk 4 clocks i got hold of :) and then do some serious de soldering

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2955/dashlithk3.jpg)

Lookin good :

I next had to change the ignition switch, was a pain in the ass to do, took 3 days to drill off the coller on top of the steering coloum :angry:

soon after the Jamex coilovers were on along with new rear brake discs, pads and calipers due to a siezed one that caused me no end of bother

I also added the HID kit to the headlights, these are bloody great in the hella projectors to say the least  :wink:

Here is how it stands at the mo

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(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1702/sv201801mr3.gif)  
(front tyre here is spare alloy i have with a 205 tyre as i got a puncture on my regular wheel, rest are all switched to 195's as they look a hell of alot better)


Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 13 March 2008, 23:40
forgot to metion above, now have a Magnex twin round to fit, and also iv sourced a brand new set of Anniversary smoked fron fogs and indicators etc (thanx to my mate at the main dealers in leeds) and also soem genuie VAG smoked side repeaters which look alot better than the clears.

will post up pics soon
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 13 March 2008, 23:53
About time too mate...

Car looks as good as ever  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 00:04
About time too mate...

Car looks as good as ever  :cool:

 :cool: cheers dude! :wink:

i have a few other bits to add over the next week or so, so ill just keep updating with pics and so on...

when i think about it its took a lot to get it looking how it does, from having the paintless dent removal (89 dints in total) right through to simple things like having to replace the stolen end caps from the side skirts... :angry:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 00:20
looking mint as ever fella!   :cool:

good write up!  :afro:

nice one guy thanx  :wink:, had to keep the write up to a minimum, as i said before its amazing just how many small jobs you have to do to get it up to scratch, iv done a bout 100 times as many things to the car to what iv written about, would be more than likely be too boring for joe public to read about tho hahaha :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed: :smug: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Neaty on 14 March 2008, 00:29
looking good mate.

your dials and interior lights look sweet  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: remapped on 14 March 2008, 00:42
have to say again nice one for that CLEAN engine bay,
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: dubsport on 14 March 2008, 11:16
that is actually my favorite mk3  :drool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 14 March 2008, 11:37
Mine too!! :grin:

Kells, what do the Ani fogs look like? How are they different?

Really need to get the cockpit sorted with Red LED's!!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 12:14
rich89gti and 88mph thanx alot, means more than u realise to hear things like that :wink:

the annie fogs look very good, ill get some pics up soon as i can matey...im pleased with them, they are expnsive at 90 quid each (just for the fogs) i got them with 40% off tho as i have a good thing going on at the dealers :wink:
i got the annie indicators for a bargain 1 quid but the tow eye cover reflectors cost me 25 quid as thats what they cost VW bleieve it or not...

as said before i also got some genuine VAG side repeaters in smoked also, looks loads better :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 14 March 2008, 12:16
Intrigued to see what they look like!

I've just got smoked ones (German made but not OEM VW) which I really like.

Hopefully get the Morrette's on at the weekend then only the paint left to do.

See how they compare, pretty similar cars when I'm done! :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 14:49
Intrigued to see what they look like!

I've just got smoked ones (German made but not OEM VW) which I really like.

Hopefully get the Morrette's on at the weekend then only the paint left to do.

See how they compare, pretty similar cars when I'm done! :grin:

hehe, ill have updated pics coming soon...the annie units loo really cool, tbh i dont have them on the car at the mo but tried one side out, was well happy with them :)

i have a few other bits to add too, so, as i said before ill get some pics up soon as i can

will be good to see yours when its done matey :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 14 March 2008, 19:47
looking  :cool: as ever..... saying that black mk3's :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

:wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: westfield on 14 March 2008, 19:55
KELLS-That Magnex back box will make the back end look better :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 14 March 2008, 21:03
KELLS-That Magnex back box will make the back end look better :wink: :grin:

you bet yer boots it will :cool:, your a star matey thanx alot, a good home is where its gonna be at :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: LazyLunatic on 15 March 2008, 00:12
kells m8, well ... i'm speechless, I didn't realise just how much effort you have put in AND .... the rewards you have got from doing it!!!!! It is one damn awesome Golf!!!!

LL ;)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 15 March 2008, 00:17
 :smiley: thanx alot matey :wink:, always really good and nice to hear positive comments, still lots to be done with this car, will have a few more snap shots of a couple of new mods next week or so :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Dinky on 15 March 2008, 08:53
Nice one Kells... even I have to admit that I like your mk3! :shocked: :smiley:
That interior looks very slick... :afro:

Dinx :kiss:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: DazVR6 on 15 March 2008, 12:11
Well done Kells, you've made the mk3 look even better than it already did.. :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 15 March 2008, 18:02
Thanx ALOT guys (and girls of course :wink:)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 March 2008, 18:54
Ok so we got the magnex on FINALLY!!!, wasnt as easy as we first thought...it didnt fit on my standard middle box as it should have, we spent hours cutting more and more off, but apparently my middle box was a aftermarket one which was different to how the OE one would have been... so...

off the car went to have the rest of the system made up from 304 stainless up to the cat

the guys still ahd problems as when they attaced the rear hanger to the rubber it sat to the left and not within the cut out in the bumper!!!

so off came the mounting bracket and a new one welded on in a better position.

sounds pretty cool, not that loud which is how i wanted it, was a little worried with removing the middlew box, its no way as loud or as mean sounding as the custom mongoose on my jap car, but i really didnt want the golf to be loud :sick: so im happy :wink: :cool:

crap pic, took this on the way home after picking the car up, will get better pics up in the next few days including pics of the new genuine anniversary front Smoked fog lights, indicators and blanks, which all works out to be very expensive (but i got a deal from my mate at the dealers :wink:) and i will also get pics of the new momo steering wheel i should have fitted in the next day or so  :cool:

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8306/magnex1ku3.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 25 March 2008, 18:57
sits better then mine but time (and someone needing the ramp) halted my fitment...who fitted it kells and would they sort mine??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 March 2008, 19:02
well we had a go ourselves untill we realised the middle box on mine was a crap one, so in the end it went to alpha in leeds who are a powerflow dealer, they did a good job, had the car for 3 hours, wasnt sure if it hangs down a centimeter too much :laugh: but its hard to tell with the car been so low, so yeah im pretty happy with it, and theirs no knocking what so ever and its a very good tight fit, he did say theirs almost no space at all to get the magnex type to fit, was a close call..
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 March 2008, 19:05
Looks 110% mint kells mate!

Bet your chuffed with it after the initial hold up..

While i remember what tyres are you runnin? 195/50 or 195/45 make too please  :rolleyes: haha

Nice one
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 March 2008, 19:13
hahaha  they are 195/ 50, im not sure of the name tbh, will check in a bit and fire over a pm for you matey, i got them as they look Spot on, from my mate who works at ATS, and iv been happy with them but my mate just got (and i cant spell this) Verdistynes on his they look AWESOME!! too..

yeah pleased with the exhaust just getting used to how it looks as iv been running round with no back box so to see 2 big shiny pipes looks mad hahahaha
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 March 2008, 19:16
Here is another and the only other pic i have right now, more to come in next day or so.. :cool:

(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/28/magnex2vu6.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: filthy on 25 March 2008, 23:10
Looking good  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 27 March 2008, 19:49
the momo boss didnt fit ffs, thats 2 i have had sent to me now which are wrong...the latest is for a airbag model, it has the same part number too which is confusing, so now i am on the lookout for a momo boss kit to suit a mk 3 without airbag...

annie fogs lights, blanks and indicators are all on now too, i have sealed them as a extra precaution with all this sh!t weather i cant be arsed with them misting up :cool

pics tomo hopefully if the weather is ok!

The magnex is also great with no probs, drove it to doncaster and back last night (from Leeds)... first impressions are good :smug:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 27 March 2008, 20:18
Thats crazy the first one I got (off ebay) fiited straight on?

What's stopping it fitting? I'll try & get the part no. off mine if that'll help?


Really want a magnex exhaust or at least one like that - the DTM is getting boring, pretty damn loud!

Really like it it dude, looks good! :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Rhyso on 27 March 2008, 20:54
car looks mint  :cool:

love the interior mods :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 27 March 2008, 21:36
Thats crazy the first one I got (off ebay) fiited straight on?

What's stopping it fitting? I'll try & get the part no. off mine if that'll help?


Really want a magnex exhaust or at least one like that - the DTM is getting boring, pretty damn loud!

Really like it it dude, looks good! :smiley:


it has the copper ring missing on the one i have, and also the wire that connects to the horn push!!, apparently u take this bit off the airbag steering wheel and attach it to the boss!

on my car you need the boss which is for  non airbag model, it has the copper ring and wire for horn, plus the tab that cancels the indicators

i also had one sent which isnt even a momo but was in a momo box with the mk 3 part number...turns out its actually a mountney boss for a mk 2!!! kid is refunding me tho..



Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 27 March 2008, 21:36
car looks mint  :cool:

love the interior mods :afro:

cheers dude :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 28 March 2008, 18:32
went to my mum and dads today...been getting moaned at a little due to me taking over the garage to store cars and things for my cars haha

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whilst their i got the anniversary front fogs on, all genuine from the main dealer, before i fitted them iv sealed all the joins so they will never leak...they are notorious for that as any mk 3 owner will know!

i also ditched the orange indicator bulbs in favour of some silver ones so theirs no trace of orange on the front end :wink: :cool:

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here u can see the indicators flash orange still with these bulbs in

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fitted the spec r battery cover i got from a geezer on here

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then cleaned my mothers car for her whilst i was their, although it rained so it was a waste of time!

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will give the golf a full clean tomo...if the rain holds off that it!





Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Neaty on 28 March 2008, 22:29
look good there kells...the mk3, not the ka  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 28 March 2008, 23:11
look good there kells...the mk3, not the ka  :grin:

haha cheers neaty :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 29 March 2008, 00:13
will be better to see yours and richies in the flesh tho on sunday!! best give mine a clean at some point... need to get some gleaming black mk3 photos.. :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 31 March 2008, 10:19
will be better to see yours and richies in the flesh tho on sunday!! best give mine a clean at some point... need to get some gleaming black mk3 photos.. :wink:

Would be awesome to meet up with you guys, have all the MK3's together for a few pics (& grab Kells to get my LED's done :tongue: ) maybe later on in the year?

Love the Ani fogs dude, look like my ones - german made but not OEM - I sealed them before I fitted but one STILL fogs up, so that's going to be done again!!

Missed out on that engine tray on fleabay, will have to keep my eyes peeled for one!

What's under the sheet then?? :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 31 March 2008, 17:19
will be better to see yours and richies in the flesh tho on sunday!! best give mine a clean at some point... need to get some gleaming black mk3 photos.. :wink:

Would be awesome to meet up with you guys, have all the MK3's together for a few pics (& grab Kells to get my LED's done :tongue: ) maybe later on in the year?

Love the Ani fogs dude, look like my ones - german made but not OEM - I sealed them before I fitted but one STILL fogs up, so that's going to be done again!!

Missed out on that engine tray on fleabay, will have to keep my eyes peeled for one!

What's under the sheet then?? :grin:


yeah i sealed mine in a big way hahah just to be sure, not fogged up once yet and they no way will haha

a meet is deffo on the cards too matey, we will have to sort it out :wink:

under the sheet lies the swift GTI :cool:

deffo love the look of the front with the annie fogs etc, much better.., oh and iv noticed some copy engine covers on the bay at around 37 quid, (200 quid at the dealer for the VAG version like mine) now im not sure on the fit of them or the material either but its a option if u get desperate, the material does not look as flexible on the copy tho...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 12 April 2008, 16:35


Noticed a nasty little oil leak from the rocker cover which was getting worse and i was getting sick of wiping it every day so i decided to give the old girl a new one...

quick call to my contact at the dealers and i had the new gasket....

(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9117/newgasketab0.gif)

in between it pissing it down i got car in bits

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4367/cam1ww4.gif) (http://imageshack.us)

and the old gasket of the lump

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which turns out to be a non genuine part at closer inspection!

anyhow, ten mins later she is all back together but i noticed a split on the underside of the breather pipe marked with a GREEN "X"

so i now need to replace this part, iv put a small amount of silicone on it for now till i get back to the dealers, i must say this breather pipe is very thin rubber!

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2618/herenj4.gif) (http://imageshack.us)


more mods coming soon :)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 12 April 2008, 20:37
Noticed those but from experience I'll hold out for OEM VW.

One came up on eBay the other week but I missed it!

Still tied up with panel prepping for now though! :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: westfield on 12 April 2008, 20:47
Looking good KELLS will lookout 4 you Tomorrow if your at Pod??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 13 April 2008, 15:44
Noticed those but from experience I'll hold out for OEM VW.

One came up on eBay the other week but I missed it!

Still tied up with panel prepping for now though! :wink:


yeah you do right matey

im toying with what to do next/first, either full respray or 20vt or some other things???

hahaha :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 13 April 2008, 15:45
Looking good KELLS will lookout 4 you Tomorrow if your at Pod??

Yo matey hows things?

no way would i have made pod, was dj'ing at an illegal do last night and so far iv had zero sleep!! hope the day was good tho?????

 :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 05 May 2008, 16:50
not had much time on the golf at the minute due to working on the jap car and organising some events, but iv been trying to decide what to do witht he rear lights, i actually really liken the standard smoked gti lights so i decided to mod them slightly yet keep the much needed OE look, so i bought a second set of rear lights off the bay, won them for 8 quid...good result i thought and means i can save my original gti lights in standard form in case i need them for mot which tbh i very much doubt as these ones iv modded shine orange perfect, just as though it came from the factory like this..

(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1247/rearlights2af7.jpg)


(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8618/rearlights1wx7.jpg)


(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/271/rearlights3mn9.jpg)


looks loads better i think
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: mark3valver on 05 May 2008, 17:06
looking good, really like the back - tinted just enough to look oem but not too much!!!

do the 20VT before a respray, looking cool is no where near as fun as going fast imo

 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 05 May 2008, 17:10
looking good, really like the back - tinted just enough to look oem but not too much!!!

do the 20VT before a respray, looking cool is no where near as fun as going fast imo

 :grin:


thanx dude, and yeah i think its just right and keeps the OE look as i need with this car (the only way with a mk 3 in my opinion)

and as for the conversion, i think you could be right hahaha
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 05 May 2008, 23:03
did you use tinting spray?? as i want red and black and was thinking of buying some normal mk3 lights and tinting the indicator area
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 05 May 2008, 23:13
yeah i did, used the E-tech brand kit, smoked is the colour i used, but if you look at my thread with swift pics, i converted those lights to all red using a red tint kit, work well, the ones on my golf illuminate as good as they do from the factory but the red on the swifts indicator part needed green bulbs to make illuminate orange through the red if this makes sense lol

i also toyed with the idea of using standard mk 3 lenses, they can be had for next to nothing too
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 05 May 2008, 23:17
I will look into that e-tech stuff.... whre did you buy it from? and how much?

here's my idea...smoke the indicators and reverse light area keeping the red bottom...should be cheap and match my motors colours?

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/74superman/Tail%20lights/mk3golftaillightls.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 05 May 2008, 23:23
thats exactly what i was gonna do if i went down the standard non gti lense route, will look good i think, a bit like mk 2 16v lamps which i always liked

got the kit here, its not the cheepest tint on the market but for a few quid more than cheepo stuff its well worth it as its high quality and you also get the remover with it.

http://search.stores.ebay.co.uk/Waxacar-Car-Styling-01928-581284_light-tinting_W0QQfciZ6QQfclZ4QQfsnZWaxacarQ20CarQ20StylingQ2001928Q20581284QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ0QQsaselZ28857359QQsofpZ0

iv got around 4 or 5 light ish coats on mine to get them how mine look now, bearing in mind the standard gti lights are smoked a tad already
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: remapped on 11 May 2008, 23:40
car looking  :cool: :cool: kells !!

also temped to blacken the rear parts of the orange on mine !
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 13 May 2008, 20:27
Cheers matey :wink:
the back lights really look cool in person, had a few folk stop me and ask where i bought them haha..

MOT time tomo :rolleyes: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 01 August 2008, 22:21
tiny update,

Fitted these rear headrests (finally) last week, genuine kit from the dealers, had to take seats to bits to fit :laugh:

Gave her a full service last weekend too, did absolutly everything, all the filters, spark plugs, all fluids bla bla bla, got all parts at the dealer for cost price and got the oil their for free, bonus :)
Car runs super sweet as a nut!!!!

anyhow, pic of headrests in the rear

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5861/headrestqa1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

and gave it a quick clean earlier...

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2284/sv201978uk0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8292/sv201980lu7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/3171/sv201981gn0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3562/sv201984ds2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5554/sv201985smallwt8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2404/sv201993nt1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2625/sv201996qh7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9964/sv201998nj5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/3333/frontnt2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5044/sv202001xw3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: tom26 on 08 August 2008, 11:27
car looking awesome.
very tidy and understated - great job!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 08 August 2008, 13:26
car looking awesome.
very tidy and understated - great job!

Thanx tom matey :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 30 August 2008, 21:10
Tiny update

decided to fit a new coolant bottle as mine was soooo stained from the old orange coolant which has been used all its life, tried everhything to clean it but results were not what i wanted.

Got the old bottle off and had my new G12 Pink coolant at the ready

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8931/oldxk8.jpg)         (http://imageshack.us)  (http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6067/g122nk4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Got the super clear/white bottle on and the coolant in, just gotta re do the levels tomorrow :)  i can now see the bloody levels at last!!

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4218/newbottle2ue6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

all good now :)

got the (now super rare) Rain Wizzard so will try this stuff out on all glass, mirrors and lights

love the container it comes in,

(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1815/rainwizzardic0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

more updates coming soon...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: davero on 30 August 2008, 22:09
First time reading this thread, kells. Awesome car you got there mate. Very mean and moody
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 30 August 2008, 22:19
First time reading this thread, kells. Awesome car you got there mate. Very mean and moody

Thanx Dave, appreciate the comment :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kniterider on 30 August 2008, 22:23
for a 5door like mine i kind of like where your going... deffo need the new bottle... mine looks like a rusty spunk ball too.... ,  deffo need one of those and some g12, how much for bottle / coolant and will the coolant do a vr6 ?? (normally independant vw garage do mine but this is strictly budget so its all diy.. lol)

 :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 30 August 2008, 22:41
for a 5door like mine i kind of like where your going... deffo need the new bottle... mine looks like a rusty spunk ball too.... ,  deffo need one of those and some g12, how much for bottle / coolant and will the coolant do a vr6 ?? (normally independant vw garage do mine but this is strictly budget so its all diy.. lol)

 :cool:



hi matey

yeah trying to keep the golf looking OE ish but slightly more mean, it seems to works for it, get alot of attention when im out in it, the 5 doors were needed as this car is whats used to run my club events, so she does get used well and hauls some of the worlds best djs!

anyhow, the bottles are around 30 quid i think, i got mine for cost price as a friend works at the dealer, the VR6 bottle is slightly different..

The G12 coolant is around 8 quid a bottle, i needed 2 as my system holds 6L, so iv done a 50 / 50 mix and it will be fine for the VR6, its the best and latest coolent they do, its actually called G12 PLUS..

the new bottle has made a huge difference to the old one, very pleased with it

right the part number for the VR6 bottle is 021 121 407 and should cost you around 28 quid
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kniterider on 30 August 2008, 22:45
cheers will check out them numbers and get it sorted

 :cool:

must also sort a thread on mine as it went when server went down... not seen it since...


 :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Horney on 31 August 2008, 13:40
I'm not really a fan of the G3 but I do very much like this car.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 31 August 2008, 13:49
I'm not really a fan of the G3 but I do very much like this car.

Nick


thanks alot :), the corrado looks good in the pics btw, looks wicked in the blue yours is in  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Horney on 31 August 2008, 14:18
It's black actually, photos were from the for sale ad, I'm actually just about to go out and shoot some better ones.

nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 31 August 2008, 14:22
wow looks blue in those pics in the sig,im interested to see more pics of it showing the black better (my favorite colour of course hehe)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 23 September 2008, 18:39
got the momo wheel on finally :grin:, 4th time lucky with the boss kit, wheel is borrowed from the swift Gti i have in storage

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/833/momo1mh0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/604/momo2tv4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

here are some more random shots....

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7581/sv202234vr1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9537/isvhs2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5526/enginebitsdp3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)



(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/377/rockerhm4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)




(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8201/engine1wt9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4131/clocks2iz2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5474/clocksjr0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/633/headlightswitch1up9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2371/heatedcontrolsqb3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7200/electricwindowswitchkx9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5494/sv202215vo2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8635/backym8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5295/golf3tt7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2443/golfgtilm3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/453/glolfgti2oo4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1346/sv202224by0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)






Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: boneybradley on 23 September 2008, 18:49
kells i'm going to have to get my switches sorted!! the pics make me  :drool: oh i'm running blue led's on standard clocks now.... so if you sort any blue switches let me know.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 23 September 2008, 18:55
kells i'm going to have to get my switches sorted!! the pics make me  :drool: oh i'm running blue led's on standard clocks now.... so if you sort any blue switches let me know.

just got a load of red leds, they came today haha, let me sort some blue ones and we will have a chat  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 24 September 2008, 19:03
Lookin really well R'kid  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 September 2008, 19:13
Lookin really well R'kid  :cool:

cheers bro!!  cars been in bits since you were up last, few more bits to do too, as ever yours is looking uber cool !!!!!!   :cool:

will catch up with you soon matey  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Vdubbster on 24 September 2008, 20:57
you sticking with the standard rims?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 September 2008, 22:12
you sticking with the standard rims?


Hmmmmmmm its a hard one for me, i have a second set of standard rims which are going to have something done to them... i really am trying to keep it OE plus look inc the rims, as i love how it looks, but theirs a few rims i also do like...its taking alot of thought, i dont want to kill it...

will see what i thin k when i do what i plan to the second set of rims i have got.. :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: mk2majik on 25 September 2008, 09:56
Never really liked the mk3 gti,UNTIL NOW your car rocks mate makes me want to sell the mk2 and buy one simply stunning OEM+ all the way for me,know what you mean about wheel choice its so important it will make it or break it took me a while to decide on the ronals but think i got away with it,good luck dude  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 September 2008, 10:05
Never really liked the mk3 gti,UNTIL NOW your car rocks mate makes me want to sell the mk2 and buy one simply stunning OEM+ all the way for me,know what you mean about wheel choice its so important it will make it or break it took me a while to decide on the ronals but think i got away with it,good luck dude  :smiley:

Thank you very much for the comment! :smiley:

means alot coming from someone with a very nice mk 2.. and yes you deffo pulled it off with the rims on your car, looks gorgeous :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 November 2008, 13:17
Just a very quick update

purchased 2 sets of wheels

1 more set of standard GTI rims same as whats already on my car, these will be refurbed in some way or form, still deciding

and iv also picked up a set of something else too :lipsrsealed: these will be going on after the new year for summer use once they have been refurbed to the finish i want  :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: davero on 24 November 2008, 15:17
Spill Kells, what are they
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 November 2008, 19:29
all will be revealed soon :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Josho on 24 November 2008, 20:05
Tip for them MFA LEDs, heat up some tweezers with a lighter, or better a mini blowtorch or hob and then squeze gently on each side where the solder is, then it melts the solder, you put it in place and done.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 24 November 2008, 20:16
not sure what you mean their matey, their is 3 different type of dials all different in regard to how you swap the LEDS, mine have the chip leds which u cant buy, believe me i know how to swap the leds, iv done is Mannnnnnny times :grin:  and have some very nifty tools to do it with, a handfull of people have seen me do the job :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Wayne on 24 November 2008, 21:59
I have a feeling I know what rims you have got.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Bobby_t_16v on 24 November 2008, 22:12
Excellent thread  :smiley:  Attempted to do my heater switches, I figured out the knobs but I just cant get the actual dials to make them light up, if you can give me a hint of what I should be doing, it would be much appreciated  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Vdubbster on 24 November 2008, 22:22
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9638/novaalloyzd4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

With some adapters of course
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: eightyeightmph on 25 November 2008, 12:00
 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 November 2008, 12:52
hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 November 2008, 15:57
 :wink:











 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 November 2008, 17:19
hahaha yo dude.. wheres them pics  :wink: :wink: :cool: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: RiCHiE360 on 25 November 2008, 17:37
Ah sh!t a forgot. ill try and take some on ma camera if not ill take some on ma fone and text them to you asap :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 25 November 2008, 18:07
Ah sh!t a forgot. ill try and take some on ma camera if not ill take some on ma fone and text them to you asap :laugh:

nice swan matey :grin: :cool:
Title: richie360 I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE!
Post by: volvo1980 on 27 November 2008, 17:35
i am thinking of putting a mk4 steeing wheel on a mk3 and since you have already done it i am wondering if you can give me a idea of how you did it and what is needed, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 27 November 2008, 18:28
not me, i run a momo wheel, speak to Richie  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Josho on 28 November 2008, 17:39
Are you on about surface mount chip LEDs?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 28 November 2008, 19:51
yes but theirs lots of different types of them...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Josho on 29 November 2008, 11:42
Where did you get them from?

I know someone that deals with all different sizes LEDs, including a number of SMT's.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Karloss on 29 November 2008, 13:21
Whos Richie ?
Has he done the MK4 to 3 swap on the steering wheel
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 17 March 2009, 12:05
Just a quick update... got my rims in the refurbers today.. House of Kolour finish, should have them back and on the car in the next couple of days...

i cant wait  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Wayne on 17 March 2009, 12:10
Looking forward to the pics.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Dec on 17 March 2009, 16:06
Oooh I like the sound of that :D Hope your going to get pics up straight away! ;)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 17 March 2009, 16:16
Oooh I like the sound of that :D Hope your going to get pics up straight away! ;)

yes matey pics will be up soon as i have them back, they have told me 4 days as im having them done to my spec....not sure pics will show it off propperly but they will look fly...

i have put my stamp on it, polished the centre caps by hand and also hand painted the colour crests for the centres which took almost 2 hours per badge and i did 7 of them (i have some spare caps)  im very happy with my handy work
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Vdubbster on 17 March 2009, 16:44
Good going mate
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 20 March 2009, 19:34
Rims are on, too dark to take pics but she looks EVIL :)

pics to come tomo... im loviin it...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Wayne on 20 March 2009, 21:47
Looking forward to the pics.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 20 March 2009, 22:18
It's never too dark  :grin: Find somewhere light like TESCO hahaha (I know how much you hate car parks ;)).
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Vdubbster on 21 March 2009, 01:33
its gonna look 2 sick  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: Josho on 21 March 2009, 09:33
PICS! PICS! PICS! PICS!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI
Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:01
here we go folks a few pics, really busy with the night club at the mo so only had chance to get these done quickly for you to get an idea

colour is House of Kolour SILVER over black which give this great grey colour, iv got added sparkle in their too but pics dont show it, its a 4 stage paint set up

centre caps were fully refurbed by myself, fully mirror polished with hand painted porsche crest which i had to carefully remove, not easy at all to do the caps, around 2 hours each and i have 8 :)


(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/931/pic1uvm.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic1uvm.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6651/pic2o.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic2o.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7885/pic3duw.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic3duw.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4026/pic4qhc.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic4qhc.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1227/pic5n.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic5n.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9543/pic6a.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic6a.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1504/pic7a.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic7a.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6316/pic8f.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic8f.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/726/pic9y.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic9y.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9940/pic10i.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic10i.jpg)

here are my hand painted badges (the old original finish one is to the far left)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4790/5capsplusold.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5capsplusold.jpg)

here is how the badges started

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7880/afternitromorse.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=afternitromorse.jpg)


im well happy with it all
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: ace on 21 March 2009, 19:08
lookin very nice mate. what size adapters u using as i need to order mine this week.

did u manage to get 8's all round???
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:14
im rocking 25mm adapters matey, i bought a second set of rims for so i could have 4 x 8", i now have 4 X 6" for sale

the amount of people that look at the car now is just unreal, even folk who are not into cars, im very happy with it, didnt want to go a bright silver and risk looking boy racer ish if you get me hahahaha
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: ace on 21 March 2009, 19:18
yeah no what u mean, just got mine refurbed back to original. was looking at 20mm adapters, whats the final offest on yours now? cos i got 7's on the front that are et55 and the rears are 8's et52, planning on putting 195/40 on mine, as its a bit lower than yours
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:22
final offset is 27

didnt wanna go 40 profile on the 8" as theirs almost no rubber so the rims would get fooked quickly

mines around 70mm down at the mo, having it fully arch rolled next week at my mates bodyshop and then ill have the thing ditched into the weeds
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: shepgti on 21 March 2009, 19:34
looks good man, love the centre caps did a real good job on them! not too sure about the colour choice but thats just my boy racer opinion!  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:37
hahaha cheers bud

wanting a mean and subtle look for this car, hence trying to keeps things very low key, hard to get a pic of how they are in person but they sparkle like a mo fo..

centre caps was one of them jobs i had to question myself "why did i start this" when i was half way through :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** NEW WHEELS PICS **
Post by: shepgti on 21 March 2009, 19:40
haha, well worth it in the end!
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Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:42
yes deffo, so pleased with them..car just looks great now..without been too much if that makes sense, not liking leaving left till daft o clock in the morning outside the club tho :undecided:
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Post by: davero on 21 March 2009, 19:43
Looks fantastic mate.  :cool:
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Post by: shepgti on 21 March 2009, 19:46
yes deffo, so pleased with them..car just looks great now..without been too much if that makes sense, not liking leaving left till daft o clock in the morning outside the club tho :undecided:

catch 22 really isnt it. got to get a balance between looking good and not being nicked!!  :grin:
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Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:49
i know mate.. rims are worth more than the bloody car itself hahaha

@ Dave16v - cheers matey
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Post by: shepgti on 21 March 2009, 19:53
stick another set of locking bolts on them!  :wink:
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Post by: kells on 21 March 2009, 19:58
stick another set of locking bolts on them!  :wink:

haha i got the new mcgard ones on as my mate whos into that sort of thing told me those are the ones to have, but tbh if they want them, they will get them one way or another.... or the whole car...

i jsut dont like leaving it, really loving these rims man :)
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Post by: T_J_G on 21 March 2009, 20:53
Looks spot on Kells!
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 21 March 2009, 22:04
Holy sh!t this is the first time I've noticed yours is a 5 door!!  :grin:

As for the Porsche rims? Not very in keeping with your OEM+ style now is it?  :tongue:

Looks pretty good, however I think you may need to go lower!  :lipsrsealed:

Very tidy work on the centres though dude! :afro:
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Post by: Wayne on 21 March 2009, 23:24
Stunning, the best wheel for a mk3 by miles, great choice of colour as well.
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Post by: Josho on 21 March 2009, 23:38
SWEET! Looks awesome, you did an excellent job on the caps. How?
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Post by: Vdubbster on 22 March 2009, 00:41
A*  :smiley:
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Post by: spunkymonkey on 22 March 2009, 01:28
Ah yes my D'90 brother, tis a revolution!!!
I dont know what it is with them on a mk3 but its just right.

FTW

Good job  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 03:59
cheers for the replys guys

@88, their was no other wheel i liked at all, honest!, i feelo the d90 still fits well with a OEM look, hence the + part :)

is going lower pal, i not had chance only got them on yesterday evening late and iv been very busy with the club, iv just popped home as it is (4am) going back to the club now so tomorrow (or is thatr today?) ill be in bed!

:)
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Post by: Dec on 22 March 2009, 09:54
Love them mate! look sweet :cool:
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Post by: eightyeightmph on 22 March 2009, 12:52
Yea, must admit D90's suit it, and I see where you're coming from keeping it OEM+ :afro:
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 15:08
Yea, must admit D90's suit it, and I see where you're coming from keeping it OEM+ :afro:

i absolutly love it, i have managed to still keep the understated look i wanted, smoked lights etc... didnt want the wheels to be too bling plus i love the fact they look so fat haha, makes car look evil when u see it in person, ALOT of people look at it when its out on the road now
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Post by: Dec on 22 March 2009, 16:28
I hope your going to spring fest? :D wana see this car!
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 17:09
I hope your going to spring fest? :D wana see this car!

haha when and where is it dude, my heads fooked iv had no sleeep, back in the club later too, got all sorts of dates in my head with the events and stuff so let me know when it is and ill check my callender, aslong as i dont have no big events on or anything id be their :)
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Post by: GOLF_MK on 22 March 2009, 17:44
Look great, i always think the MK3 looks good with rims that have a 'lot of metal'  :smiley:
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Post by: RiCHiE360 on 22 March 2009, 20:11
DUDEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

They look so slick, that paint is absolutley awesome! Looks like a different car  :cool:

How you findin the 45's up front for catchin?

Rich
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 22 March 2009, 20:25
What size wheels are the kells? And tyre size?


Looking good, you know what I mean :)
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 20:30
richie my man, im lovin them hahaha

no catchin at all so far, getting arches rolled and dumping it :)

thought you would like these :), you know the score   :cool:

shady these are all 8" x 16"  195-45-16 yokohama S drives
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Post by: shepgti on 22 March 2009, 20:30
What size wheels are the kells? And tyre size?


Looking good, you know what I mean :)

16x8 with 195/45/r16's....

keep up shady!  :grin:

EDIT:awwww now i look silly  :sad:
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 22 March 2009, 21:02
Cheers kells  :grin: thanks for nothing shep  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Just asking as VRDan isn't sure on what tyres to put on his new 15s, but nor do I now lol!
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Post by: shepgti on 22 March 2009, 21:09
Cheers kells  :grin: thanks for nothing shep  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Just asking as VRDan isn't sure on what tyres to put on his new 15s, but nor do I now lol!

hehe, the standard profile for a 15 is 50 (195 on a 6j)
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 21:10
i had 195/50 on my gti 15's
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 22 March 2009, 21:11
We'll have to see what he gets but he needs something thinner than what's on there atm. :)


As said, kells looking good, glad you're pleased with them. I'm in desperate need of getting mine refurbished now, hopefully gonna be coming into some money in April but need to get mechanical work done on the car before it's MOT in June. (I think lol).
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Post by: Wayne on 22 March 2009, 21:12
I ran 195/50/15's, much cheaper and easier to find than 205/50's.
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Post by: davero on 22 March 2009, 22:25
How are you finding the s drives so far? I think they are an excellent tyre.
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Post by: Dec on 22 March 2009, 22:37
I hope your going to spring fest? :D wana see this car!

haha when and where is it dude, my heads fooked iv had no sleeep, back in the club later too, got all sorts of dates in my head with the events and stuff so let me know when it is and ill check my callender, aslong as i dont have no big events on or anything id be their :)

Next sunday (29th) at Santa pod mate :)

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=101368.0
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Post by: kells on 22 March 2009, 23:36
How are you finding the s drives so far? I think they are an excellent tyre.

so far they are superb, better than the paradas and i still havnt got them bedded in yet if that makes sense
only thing is they are not a all season tyre so no good in ice/snow but thats ok as the d90s wont be on in the winter as ill run my winter wheels

dec next sunday is a no no for me as i have a event on the sunday night in the club and im not only dj in at it im actually running the event
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 06:37
Ah fair enough mate :( lol
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 12:46
Ah fair enough mate :( lol

i really need to get to some of these meets :(

or why dont we arrange a meet up in my club hahaha, get everyone out for a pppparrrttty...
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 12:56
Are you going to go to edition38 or anything?

Would love to come haha, haven't a clue where to go In Leeds :P apparently there's two ends where the clubs are though as my friend lives there. She said there's the hardcore end and the normal people end haha 
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 13:04
Are you going to go to edition38 or anything?

Would love to come haha, haven't a clue where to go In Leeds :P apparently there's two ends where the clubs are though as my friend lives there. She said there's the hardcore end and the normal people end haha 

theirs no hardcore end now really, its all sold out... getting too ceoomercial unless you know where to go hehe, the club im working for now (apart from my own stuff in the city) is outside of leeds but its good, and it is seriously full of birds haha, big car park accross from it for all the cars too haha

not sure what events ill make it to matey, edition 38 i wanted to go dj at but they already had the djs sorted so that is a shame as i would have liked that
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Post by: RiCHiE360 on 23 March 2009, 14:02
Dec im gona make sure brad comes to at least one show this year, as soon as they start im gona be callin your fone fella, theres only so many times i'l let you off for bein busy DJ'in :grin:

P.S. just crash the decks at Edition.. They wont know, they'll all be chewin there faces off anyways  :wink:
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Post by: gjroe78 on 23 March 2009, 14:17
lookin sweet kells  :cool: good choice
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 14:45
cheers giroe matey :)


and Richie mate, yes man i need to get to some of these do's, anyhow, i wanna take you to this club, you just have to check this out we we need to arrange a weekend mate and have a mad one :)

give me a chance to see this new car of yours too:)
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 15:22
Dec im gona make sure brad comes to at least one show this year, as soon as they start im gona be callin your fone fella, theres only so many times i'l let you off for bein busy DJ'in :grin:

P.S. just crash the decks at Edition.. They wont know, they'll all be chewin there faces off anyways  :wink:

Sweet :P


My mates got decks in the back of his van haha :P He's not going to hold back playing some tunes lol
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 16:04
Dec im gona make sure brad comes to at least one show this year, as soon as they start im gona be callin your fone fella, theres only so many times i'l let you off for bein busy DJ'in :grin:

P.S. just crash the decks at Edition.. They wont know, they'll all be chewin there faces off anyways  :wink:

Sweet :P


My mates got decks in the back of his van haha :P He's not going to hold back playing some tunes lol


i woulnt mind havin a blast on them hehe :grin:
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 16:43
Probably nothing up to your standard :P

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v315/walshy200sx/cruises/?action=view&current=14032009029.flv
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 16:50
Probably nothing up to your standard :P

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v315/walshy200sx/cruises/?action=view&current=14032009029.flv


hahaha lovin it haha not my style music obviously but likin the van, those aint Technics decks tho unfortunatly, or at meast they dont look like it
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 16:56
Havent a clue mate! Got any vids of you doing your thing? :D
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 17:01
Havent a clue mate! Got any vids of you doing your thing? :D

got vids of my club night yeah

here we go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3nOZ95mQPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn0KrLlNqo&feature=related

here is a really cool one from one of the many partys i held in the Leeds Corn Exchange (2000 people)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i27Rzpu06w&feature=channel_page
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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 17:06
Sweet! Like the last one best ;)
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 17:14
Sweet! Like the last one best ;)

yeah the classics events are very cool, i love my old skool house, its what i grew up on u see :)  sound quality bad on that vid as i had a 40k sound system, (blew the roof off) was so loud it caused thousands of pounds worth of damage to stuff in the shops, and that caused me no end of bother (corn exchange is a wicked listed building used as a shopping complex, shaped like a dome)

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Post by: Dec on 23 March 2009, 17:21
Ooops haha!

If im ever up near leeds, ill give you a bell :P deffo know how to throw a party lol!
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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 17:32
Ooops haha!

If im ever up near leeds, ill give you a bell :P deffo know how to throw a party lol!

dude id look after you pal, would show u a good do put it that way :wink: :cool:
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Post by: LazyLunatic on 23 March 2009, 20:23
l8 comment i know, but just seen the rimmage!!!

phat stuff, they look the shizzle m8. :cool:

totally suit the car and have transformed it.

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Post by: kells on 23 March 2009, 21:15
l8 comment i know, but just seen the rimmage!!!

phat stuff, they look the shizzle m8. :cool:

totally suit the car and have transformed it.



cheers dude :wink:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 24 March 2009, 16:53
colour is House of Kolour SILVER over black which give this great grey colour, iv got added sparkle in their too but pics dont show it, its a 4 stage paint set up

centre caps were fully refurbed by myself, fully mirror polished with hand painted porsche crest which i had to carefully remove, not easy at all to do the caps, around 2 hours each and i have 8

Added sparkle, eh?

Peter approves:

(http://k43.pbase.com/g6/02/726802/2/75938442.p3FN33ao.jpg)

He's saddened about the dire state of your english though:

(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/nov2008/7/0/D7EE9272-D04E-0E73-EC4B9CD75BD3C63C.jpg)

To me, it looks like you're homophonic.  I've heard this will upset Peter a lot.  To stay on the right side of your Dad, (or is he your uncle?) this page will help you out. (http://www.spelling.hemscott.net/homophones1.htm)

Your painting skills on those badges are good.  Soon you'll be up to painting proper World of Warcraft figures - should open a whole new, higher social echelon to you.
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Post by: Khare on 24 March 2009, 16:54
Your painting skills on those badges are good.  Soon you'll be up to painting proper World of Warcraft figures - should open a whole new, higher social echelon to you.

PMSL!!!!!!!
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Post by: Neaty on 24 March 2009, 16:55
good work, car looks great and I can't believe you had the patients to repaint the badges. :afro:
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Post by: kells on 24 March 2009, 17:11
Thomas, i bet sharpie is saddened about the dire state of your ass hole but i dont go on about it on your sh!tty post about your bag of sh!te car do i...

keep your bull sh!te in the non sense section not in my thread which is about my car, not your weird crap...

strange as f**k all that you have written above anyway..infact it looks so desperate it makes you look even more of a tit than what u already are...its sheer lunacy i dont know why you dont just stop...

now jog on u bent cu n t :kiss:
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Post by: Mikester on 04 November 2009, 21:50
thought i best bump this thread with some dumpy 8v in it...haha
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Post by: Adam on 05 November 2009, 02:50
thought i best bump this thread with some dumpy 8v in it...haha

Do get a big head now before you have the VR6-T working okay.
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Post by: Mikester on 05 November 2009, 09:56
Humour.

Get one.
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Post by: Len on 05 November 2009, 10:05
Play nice boys as kells may leave again!  :wink:
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Post by: Adam on 05 November 2009, 11:08
Quote from: Mikester link=topic=79957.javascript:void(0);msg1206516#msg1206516 date=1257414989
Humour.

Get one.

Likewise  :rolleyes:
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Post by: kells on 05 November 2009, 11:20
hahahahaha  dumpy 8v haha


nearly as bad as a lardy slow ass VR lump   :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:


Just u wait till i find a decent BAM  wa ha ha ha ha   :cool: :cool: :cool:


I Love This mk3, its like a tank hahahaha never breaks down  :smiley:
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Post by: Mikester on 05 November 2009, 12:35
I Love This mk3, its like a tank hahahaha never breaks down  :smiley:


true dat. 8v ftw
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Post by: kells on 05 November 2009, 12:51
hahah they are tho,they can take punishment..


You watch,ill do engine swap and it will break all the time
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Post by: kells on 05 November 2009, 17:07

May aswell add these pics from the thread in nonsense chat,

will get more updated pics taken soon as the weather improves :)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5892/pic1z.jpg) (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/pic1z.jpg/)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4558/pic3n.jpg) (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/pic3n.jpg/)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6016/pic2j.jpg) (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/pic2j.jpg/)
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Post by: MooZ on 05 November 2009, 17:16
Those wheels really do look lovely, perfect colour & nice stretch on the tyres... but I bet your biggest enemy (maybe even bigger than DH and Sharpie) is now CURBS    :tongue::laugh:
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Post by: kells on 05 November 2009, 17:31
cheers

and yes a large cap is always left haha  :)
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Post by: dubsport on 07 November 2009, 11:14
mk3 is looking fooooooooking sweet kells  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 07 November 2009, 16:56
cheerz dude :cool:
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Post by: Toby on 07 November 2009, 17:04
Hot Hot Hot !!  :evil: (signd photo?)
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Post by: kells on 07 November 2009, 19:13
Hot Hot Hot !!  :evil: (signd photo?)


Hahaha  yo dude  :cool: :grin:
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Post by: davero on 08 November 2009, 00:07
Kells, good to see you back, car looks great, i have been away nearly as long as you, hate the haters.
We all love vw's for a different reason. Respect to all, no matter what their taste!
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Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 20:50

Today i bought this plate for the golf
just gotta wait for the cert to arrive so i can transfer it to the car, ordered the plates and here is what they will look like, slightly shorter than standard but still legal so im told....but who cares haha   :cool:

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7669/f17bad.jpg) (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/f17bad.jpg/)



(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1036/f17badr.jpg) (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/f17badr.jpg/)
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Post by: JC on 03 December 2009, 20:55
that must have cost  :shocked:
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Post by: Len on 03 December 2009, 20:56
Top dj so he got plenty money! :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 20:58
only cost around £650 ish   :lipsrsealed:  but i loved it and had to have it...
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Post by: JC on 03 December 2009, 20:58
did u buy direct from DVLA ?  :huh:
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Post by: shepgti on 03 December 2009, 21:00
please say you didnt pay £650 just bescause it spells bad? :shocked:
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Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 21:01
yes was cheepest place, tried all over, saw it listed cheeper but then it was plut VAt and the transfer fee so it was getting very EXP! DVLA was by far cheepest i could find it,
wanted F and wanted to have a 7 in thier and it had to read BAD
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Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 21:03
please say you didnt pay £650 just bescause it spells bad? :shocked:


yeap, thats the one i wanted, no point going half cock is their  :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Wayne on 03 December 2009, 21:04
 :shocked:  :shocked:  :rolleyes:
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Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 21:05
:shocked:  :shocked:  :rolleyes:


????
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: shepgti on 03 December 2009, 21:06
not think wanting 'bad' on a plate is a little well childish? :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 03 December 2009, 21:07
im just a big kid mate  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: Wayne on 03 December 2009, 23:56
:shocked:  :shocked:  :rolleyes:


????

Just  :shocked: that you have paid £650 for a bit of plastic.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 00:09
no i payed 23 quid for the plastic or is it acrylic??   :laugh:

the rest was for a bit of paper saying i own the reg F17 BAD, which will stay with me forever, so i kind of call it an investment... as unlike most cars, the price for the number will only increase where as a car will go the other way  :grin:

anyhow, i had a good event last week so i just decided to treat myself to it, its all good :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: shepgti on 04 December 2009, 00:17
not sure about the plate price rising but on a side note my plate cost 500 quid and i have spent in excess on 350 quid chaning it from car to car/ retention
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: Wayne on 04 December 2009, 00:21
no i payed 23 quid for the plastic or is it acrylic??   :laugh:

the rest was for a bit of paper saying i own the reg F17 BAD, which will stay with me forever, so i kind of call it an investment... as unlike most cars, the price for the number will only increase where as a car will go the other way  :grin:

anyhow, i had a good event last week so i just decided to treat myself to it, its all good :)

To be honest, plates only go up in value if they mean something or are really nice, I still have 2 but never keep a car longer enough to put it on plus as Shep said it is the cost of changing it over from car to car.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 00:23
not sure about the plate price rising but on a side note my plate cost 500 quid and i have spent in excess on 350 quid chaning it from car to car/ retention

should have picked a plate with a word then you will see a increase in price,

+

dont change your car so much haha, i wont be, and i aint even arsed, as to be honest its not really about money for me, got it coz I like it and I wanted it  :grin:

No point getting one at all if its not what you really want, or at least thats the basis i work on things anyhow, we are all different, im well happy with it so its great for me  :cool:


Anyhow...
im still waiting to see a happy/positive post/reply from you shep coz all i see is negativity ALL THE TIME  hahaha :laugh: :laugh:  come on man lets see a smile :evil: :kiss:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 00:25
no i payed 23 quid for the plastic or is it acrylic??   :laugh:

the rest was for a bit of paper saying i own the reg F17 BAD, which will stay with me forever, so i kind of call it an investment... as unlike most cars, the price for the number will only increase where as a car will go the other way  :grin:

anyhow, i had a good event last week so i just decided to treat myself to it, its all good :)

To be honest, plates only go up in value if they mean something or are really nice, I still have 2 but never keep a car longer enough to put it on plus as Shep said it is the cost of changing it over from car to car.


you need to stop been so serious

any plate with a Word will go up in value, but as iv already said, its not about money to me, its staying with me....
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: shepgti on 04 December 2009, 00:35
not sure about the plate price rising but on a side note my plate cost 500 quid and i have spent in excess on 350 quid chaning it from car to car/ retention

should have picked a plate with a word then you will see a increase in price,

+

dont change your car so much haha, i wont be, and i aint even arsed, as to be honest its not really about money for me, got it coz I like it and I wanted it  :grin:

No point getting one at all if its not what you really want, or at least thats the basis i work on things anyhow, we are all different, im well happy with it so its great for me  :cool:


Anyhow...
im still waiting to see a happy/positive post/reply from you shep coz all i see is negativity ALL THE TIME  hahaha :laugh: :laugh:  come on man lets see a smile :evil: :kiss:

haha im in a very negative place right now! :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 08:41
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

on a friendly tip:-

hope nothin too serious buddy :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: Len on 04 December 2009, 09:23
 
    FIT BAD

would be better as BAD FIT   :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 04 December 2009, 09:36
im guessing you wont like my new sig  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 04 December 2009, 09:38

    FIT BAD

would be better as BAD FIT   :grin:


my GF just said the F17 looks like FIT too ha

lol @ veedubgti16v..  all i need now is a BMW   :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: irish201 on 04 December 2009, 13:27
Nice car that. You cant beat a good set of Porsche Rims. And as always a good set of rims make the car!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 24 December 2009, 17:33
was almost beaten by the snow today, really bad here, had to travel from halifax to leeds this morning at 7am, was so deep my front end was like a snow plow and getting up my street was a nightmare, idiots parking on a very narrow street, up hill with sh!te summer rubber (i hate yoko S - Drives) i almost hit the parked cars, even my neighbour in his 4x4 didnt wanna risk it hahahaha (loosers  :grin:)

got my new number plate on the car tho, will get more pics once its cleaned etc :)

if this weather continues im putting my GTI rims back on till things improve

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1043/snowi.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/snowi.jpg/)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: Wayne on 24 December 2009, 19:41
Plate looks good but I am sure cut down plates are illegal.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI ** Im Back **
Post by: kells on 25 December 2009, 13:08
Cheers wayne, ill get more pics once its cleaned etc

oh and its legal, you just have to have at least 11mm round the edge of the letters, and the spacing has to be a set amount too, which mine is, the plates have carbon lettering tho which im guessing is prob not legal but they are the correct size and font, had the traffic police behind me yesterday and no dramas   :angry:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: crazyjas on 25 December 2009, 14:05
i know they are porche rims but what are they called, they are sweet and look cool :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Adam on 25 December 2009, 14:07
i know they are porche rims but what are they called, they are sweet and look cool :smiley:

They would be D90s, nice tidy wheel.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: crazyjas on 25 December 2009, 14:10
cheers adam, i bet i nead to re-mortgage to buy a set of those
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Adam on 25 December 2009, 14:45
cheers adam, i bet i nead to re-mortgage to buy a set of those

They pop up on eBay sometimes. 400-500 for a mint set.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 25 December 2009, 15:09
got about 1000 in my wheels, i had to buy 2 sets as i wanted the 8" all round, then i had a expensive refurb on them, polished the centre caps myself and hand painted the metal porche badges, which were quite hard to remove from the caps, the metal caps cost a fortune at the dealer (about £150) but they go on the bay for about 40 to 50 quid a set, although usually tatty..  iv got a spare set polished up just like the ones on my car but im hanging on to them.

the adapters to make them fit are quite expensive too so bear that in mind (about 250 quid for good ones)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 17:32
Had to give the car a clean today, even though it will be dirty soon as i drive it on these roads as they are at the mo, but i hit a black bird this morning on the way home from the club at around 7am :sick:, poor thing didnt do any damage to the car apart from a bunch of feathers in the engine bay, but the little fella was wedged in my bumber (along the bottom between the fins) so i had to remove him and pop the corpse in the bin

pics below, not the best as they were taken on my phone
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 17:32

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5113/64054293.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/64054293.jpg/)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7778/43676800.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/43676800.jpg/)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1887/56637635.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/56637635.jpg/)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/40/85396139.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/85396139.jpg/)

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9294/72838302.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/72838302.jpg/)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/128/87760398.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/87760398.jpg/)

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2562/35108130.jpg) (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/35108130.jpg/)

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3989/99514034.jpg) (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/99514034.jpg/)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Wayne on 27 December 2009, 21:27
Love it, very nice.  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 21:42
cheers dude   :wink:


next job is to get the outer rim of the wheels polished :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: JC on 27 December 2009, 21:42
so needs some Silver VW rimmage  :lipsrsealed:

but the rest looks the mutz :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 21:44
so needs some Silver VW rimmage  :lipsrsealed:

but the rest looks the mutz :afro:

whats silver vw rimmage dude??

examples too??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 21:47
Loving those pictures my man, I know I didn't take too kindly to the wheels but seriously, looks immense :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: JC on 27 December 2009, 21:48
(http://www.potn.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/teddywheels.jpg)


 :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 21:51
Loving those pictures my man, I know I didn't take too kindly to the wheels but seriously, looks immense :)

aww cheers matey, nice of you to say  :wink:

chuff, think ill have to get myself a set of those for the beast haha  :)


on a serious tip, my rims are my fave bit, i lurrrve them so much, i know theirs a few folk out their who are not into porker rims but these just do it for me on this car  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Andy-H on 27 December 2009, 21:51
cheers dude   :wink:


next job is to get the outer rim of the wheels polished :)

Those wheels look Mint as they are buddy. Are you going to re-laquer over the polishing when you do it or just protect them??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 21:57
cheers dude   :wink:


next job is to get the outer rim of the wheels polished :)

Those wheels look Mint as they are buddy. Are you going to re-laquer over the polishing when you do it or just protect them??

they do look mint as they are yes, im just thinking a polished lip is better for me as they are exposed, so far so good and no damage but the rims stick out alot which looks cool, but its also possible they will pic up stone chips (had this on previous rims) and if i have a polished lip i can just re polish myself easy, same if they suffor the dreaded curb (prob wont as im ultra carefull)

its just this car is a daily driver, used every day com,e rain or shine...  the lip would be bare with no laquer as this way its easier to keep up to them, if the laquer goes then the rim gets fooked quick stylee..

also a polished lip will match the polished centre caps, again these are bare polished non laquerd, i treat them every week cwith jetseal and wax :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:00
As I said man, seriousy am loving it, the colour and everything. I'm sporting HIDs now too  :lipsrsealed: gonna change the inner lamps bulbs to white though.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Andy-H on 27 December 2009, 22:01
cheers dude   :wink:


next job is to get the outer rim of the wheels polished :)

Those wheels look Mint as they are buddy. Are you going to re-laquer over the polishing when you do it or just protect them??

they do look mint as they are yes, im just thinking a polished lip is better for me as they are exposed, so far so good and no damage but the rims stick out alot which looks cool, but its also possible they will pic up stone chips (had this on previous rims) and if i have a polished lip i can just re polish myself easy, same if they suffor the dreaded curb (prob wont as im ultra carefull)

its just this car is a daily driver, used every day com,e rain or shine...  the lip would be bare with no laquer as this way its easier to keep up to them, if the laquer goes then the rim gets fooked quick stylee..

also a polished lip will match the polished centre caps, again these are bare polished non laquerd, i treat them every week cwith jetseal and wax :)



Cunning plan  :wink:

I'm having mine refurbed soon and as mine is a daily I get what you mean about the day to day fatigue  :sad:

Nice to get other peoples ideas of how to deal with the issues  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:02
As I said man, seriousy am loving it, the colour and everything. I'm sporting HIDs now too  :lipsrsealed: gonna change the inner lamps bulbs to white though.


cheers mate :cool:

hids in the hellas are soooo good aint they..i could not be with out them now

i was gonna change the inner sidelights to leds, but i was worried it might be chavvy??  what does everyone think????   was trying to keep a oem feel as my mk 4 has factory hids and sidelights like wats in my mk 3
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:04

Cunning plan  :wink:

I'm having mine refurbed soon and as mine is a daily I get what you mean about the day to day fatigue  :sad:

Nice to get other peoples ideas of how to deal with the issues  :wink:

aslong as you keep up to it, polishing is good, wouldnt want the full wheel doing but the rim is just ideal :) and looks cool as fook i think
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:08
As I said man, seriousy am loving it, the colour and everything. I'm sporting HIDs now too  :lipsrsealed: gonna change the inner lamps bulbs to white though.


cheers mate :cool:

hids in the hellas are soooo good aint they..i could not be with out them now

i was gonna change the inner sidelights to leds, but i was worried it might be chavvy??  what does everyone think????   was trying to keep a oem feel as my mk 4 has factory hids and sidelights like wats in my mk 3

I dunno how I was without them now either haha, very very much improved, no problems with beam either which is all good. I was thinking LED bulbs too but I spoke to Adam and he said they cause mist up inside or something which didn't sound good. I don't think it would be chavvy, but would rather bulbs instead to keep the main focus on the HIDs.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Andy-H on 27 December 2009, 22:11

aslong as you keep up to it, polishing is good, wouldnt want the full wheel doing but the rim is just ideal :) and looks cool as fook i think
Yeah, just been thinking about mine.......

Yours have a nice line to run the polishing to but mine would have to be polished too far in to look anything like  :sad:

Might have to go full colour and risk it for now  :sad:

I do have a mate who works in the vinyl graphic business that says he can sort me with some clear vinyl stretched over the lips to protect them a little so I'll have to go for that me thinks for now.

Do these HID's generate much heat etc.?? The Corrado lights are absolutely pants so looking at ways to improve them.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:13
dont forget im runnig stretched rubber so my  outer rim is very exposed, you will prob be fine with full painted rims

HIDs are fantastic, not sure if they generate more heat, i had mine for over 2 year tho and love them, i know shady will be loving his too

might try the leds in the side lights, just not sure ?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:17
Oh yeah, defo loving mine. Almost like daylight lol. Look the shiz too! Heat isn't an issue I dont think, besides they is awesome lol!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 December 2009, 22:20
Try it see what you like.

This car is amazing. As Shady was saying I didn't really like the wheels reading through the thread (yes I read it all, does that make me sad? :grin:) and I first thought the older rims looked way better but they've really, really grown on me and your car's pretty damn perfect! :cool:

I quite like the sidelights now, different, contrast etc. I think you should try orange and white. :grin: Actual orange bulbs though, they look cool and are legal.

Try all different kinds mate see what you like best!

Real inspiration dude and this car looks far better to me then all these cars with thousands spent on body work, smooth bumpers and all that, although I like the plate recess removed.

Simple, you've changed wheels, and headlights, rest is OEM (I know you've got parts from other MK3's) but the OEM look is looking absolutely fantastic. :cool:


Oh and HID's run cooler then halogen, I've taken mine out though. Illegal and all that. :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:23
Just seen your sig Matty, lmfao! Defo agree about the wheels growing on you, I still wouldn't do it myself because I'm a BBS whore but still would say no to this :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 December 2009, 22:28
Just seen your sig Matty, lmfao! Defo agree about the wheels growing on you, I still wouldn't do it myself because I'm a BBS whore but still would say no to this :)

I like variety in wheels. Might get some OEM BBS for mine and some coilovers but might sell it and either buy a MK2 GTi but cars like these are making me love MK3's again. :cool: Newer more practical and all that.


Yes my cock is bigger then yours. :tongue:

Jibe and Mr Nosh on the forum. :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:29
CHEERS Matty  :wink:

nail on head regarding the  reference to cars with ££££ spend on bodywork and daft mods

i like the mk 3 as it is standard so just wanted to build on that ever so slightly, i spend alot of time keeping this car looking good, and it shows, if i could only somehow show you lot just how much attention it gets when im out in it, i mean from standard joe public too who aint into cars, it gets alot of respect.

its my fave golf iv ever had, most people get carried away with mods and forget why they bought it in the first place, less is more when it comes to modifying a golf in my opinion, especially with the mk 3...

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:31
oh and shady you already know i like the bbs type, and yours are prob the best iv seen on here, not as much a fan of the annie rims, id prefere yours to them :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 December 2009, 22:40
oh and shady you already know i like the bbs type, and yours are prob the best iv seen on here, not as much a fan of the annie rims, id prefere yours to them :cool:

Cheers pal :) I'm gonna get some pics up with the lights soon :) and yeah RXs are much better than RXIIs haha! I'm just a BBS whore, love the OEM look, mines highly based on yours as you know Kells, especially the rear lights :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 December 2009, 22:41
CHEERS Matty  :wink:

nail on head regarding the  reference to cars with ££££ spend on bodywork and daft mods

i like the mk 3 as it is standard so just wanted to build on that ever so slightly, i spend alot of time keeping this car looking good, and it shows, if i could only somehow show you lot just how much attention it gets when im out in it, i mean from standard joe public too who aint into cars, it gets alot of respect.

its my fave golf iv ever had, most people get carried away with mods and forget why they bought it in the first place, less is more when it comes to modifying a golf in my opinion, especially with the mk 3...



Yeah, I like all the Golf's for the Golf's. I quite like the MK3's shape, and I think you've personallised it just enough. :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 27 December 2009, 22:45
yes mate, its why i got one, i liked how they do as standard, just needed a little twist here and their

im after a recaro trim for it and still considering the BAM engine, seems a shame tho to rip out this engine, its clean as hell now iv spent hours on it and never let me down....
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 December 2009, 00:05
Meh I suppose as long as Mr BAM will be as reliable for you, why not?

I suppose it will be a fair bit of work, but it will be a great sleeper(ish) especially to the Dub Scene who just think a MK3 Golf. :grin:

Cause we all have to admit apart from the VR6 they are one of the slower Golf range.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... F17 BAD :-)
Post by: kells on 28 December 2009, 00:11
VR's aint all that either, i just dont think in standard form the engine is powerfull enough for the size of it/cost of running,  good on the motorway mind, but handle like a sofa  :grin:

it would be good to have the bam in it tho, as you say, just to raise a few eye brows hahaha :grin:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 December 2009, 00:41
Yeah. The GTi's aren't slow and I still think they'll surprise some drivers but the BAM. :drool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 28 December 2009, 20:15
Who'd a thought this thread could degenerate any more, then Shady pops up declaring he's fitted illegal w*nker HIDs too. Tw*t.

New number plate = 1,000,000% more gay than before and it was pretty bent to start with.
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Post by: kells on 28 December 2009, 22:02
its a good job nobody gives a flying fook what a clueless cnunt like you thinks then aint it  :grin:

please keep out of my post, you have attempted to ruin it once before, so please leave it at that, i dont go on your thread and leave pointless comments about your pile of crap do i  :rolleyes:


i suggest you go get a shag and let of some of this stress.. its no good for you been such a negative old fart....

we all know you dont like me and dont like mk 3's  (apart from lazys which is bizzare), be interesting to see how you would manage to slag my car off if it was a mk 2, but im sure you would find a way...

now jog on...
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Post by: JC on 28 December 2009, 22:04
open forum kells,  positive and negative comments and all that.  :lipsrsealed:


still dont like the wheels  :grin:
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Post by: kells on 28 December 2009, 22:18
we both know his pathetic comments are aimed at me on a personal level, prefere not to have that on this thread really matey

fair play abut the wheels, i dont like yours either  :grin:, cant all like the same thing can we, if we did this would be a boring world we are living in, for every person that dont like them, their is about 100 that do  :wink:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 December 2009, 22:36
Halfords sell Carbon effect font on plates.

Must be legal as it comes with BS numbers.
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Post by: kells on 29 December 2009, 11:46
yeap, the plates are all legal, lettering and spacing and the size of the plate   :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 29 December 2009, 12:36
please keep out of my post,

Don't worry Kells, I'll keep right out of your post - I'd never interfere with another man's mail.

i dont go on your thread and leave pointless comments about your pile of crap do i

You crack on, if you want to.  I should hate to think you were holding back on me.  It might lead to pent-up aggression, bitterness and temper tantrums, along with storming off the forum for months on your part.

The thing is that it's not that I don't like you.

I do pity you from time to time.  Surely there is a village out there with a vacant post which you could fill?

It's not even that I don't like Golf3s that much.

Admittedly it'd be a cold day in hell before I bought one I wasn't going to rip the engine and gearbox out of and toss the rest away. 

LL is actually doing something interesting with his.  Something that has technical merit, he's learning a lot and his car is being developed into something interesting.  Oh and I definitely like Paul86S2's 16V track car and Ian Howell's track VR6.  Your attempts are just lame though.  All you've done with yours is proved to World of Warcraft figure painters that they have a transferable skill - they too could paint a Porsche shield as well as you have, I'm sure.  I'd be just as rude about your car if it was a preened Golf2 with a donkey under the bonnet.

My biggest issues with you and this barge are two-fold:

1. I don't like your illegal headlights and I don't like your promotion of them as 'a good thing' to the more impressionable members of this forum.

HID lights are illegal when not fitted in an E-marked light unit designed to have HID units fitted to them.

When fitted behind inappropriate lenses (like yours) they cause beam scatter and are likely to dazzle other motorists.

This is inconsiderate and dangerous for other road users.

2. I also really don't like your consistent and terrible mauling of the English language.  It's quite offensive to most people with a reading age of over 10 years, barely literate and terribly slovenly.

As for the new numberplate - the last person to promote themselves as 'bad' was Michael Jackson.

That ended well.

Now go out for a run, or something?
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Post by: kells on 29 December 2009, 12:39
And breathe....... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 29 December 2009, 16:46
As for the new numberplate - the last person to promote themselves as 'bad' was Michael Jackson.

That ended well.

I'm sorry, but :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 14:59
not much to report back on as such, apart from a couple of things in the pipeline

firstly, a trip to my mate Mj @ MJ interiors is on next week (was going to be today but i was late in from the club last nite so needed my sleep :grin:) looking to replace my interior with something a little bit more special   :cool:

And the second thing which im a little excited about is one of my friends called me last nite to give me first dibs on his audi S3 Bam engine, yeeehaaaaa, he is thinking on braking his car, hopefully this will happen as its a well looked after lump and ill have the full history with it too, plus all other bits i may need and want off the car which is perfect for me, so fingers crossed

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6040/sv202670.jpg) (http://img237.imageshack.us/i/sv202670.jpg/)
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Post by: Wayne on 06 February 2010, 17:14
That looks mean as fook from the front, as an idea why not run black badges.
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 17:18
id think about it matey as i run a black one on the rear, but i like the silver VW badge on the nose for some reason, might blacken the GTI one tho? ?   really am trying to keep a factory look tho too Hmmmm  :smiley:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 06 February 2010, 17:33
Putting a black grill badge on mine was one of the best ideas I've ever had lol
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Post by: dubsport on 06 February 2010, 17:40
i thought gti's were meant to have black badges on the front? at least the mk1 and 2 did right?  :undecided:

Looking awesome kells :afro:
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 17:54
cheers dude  :cool:

they came with silver as standard matey, this car was box standard when it arrived on my driveway, so the one thats on it now is the original item, as i said before i swapped the rear for black (kept the original siver one tho too)


are you rockin a black one now then joe?
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 06 February 2010, 18:02
Black ftw :cool:

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs131.snc3/17839_1375097256367_1199897708_1115131_1002032_n.jpg)
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Post by: DoogalDoogz on 06 February 2010, 18:06
Car looks good mate, never really seen a mk3 on the D90 wheels but they look really good, especially in that colour, suits the car very well.

I will say im not a fan of personalised plates though, but thats just me.
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 18:08
cheers dude, appreciate the comment, more so after looking at your sig  :grin:

i really like the d90 rim as it has a oem feel to it :-)

Joe - looks good!
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Post by: DoogalDoogz on 06 February 2010, 18:39
Ahaha yeah forgot I had that as my sig, not the biggest fan of mk3s, or any car thats not a mk2 or mk1 golf tbh haha. Occasionally though some come along that I think, damn, looks pretty damn good. Yours is one of those cars.
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Post by: kells on 06 February 2010, 18:49
thanks alot matey  :wink:
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Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 08 February 2010, 19:20
HAHA really like that sig! where u find that too?
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 February 2010, 21:29
I made it.
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 08 February 2010, 21:42
Mk1 + Mk3 = best Golfs ever made.. fact.

Mk2's, with the exception of the G60/Rallye.. were all pants. Strictly my opinion of course (I've owned 2 Mk2's before)

Although back on topic....

Kells did you get those pillar trims off Damo? And do you have any plans for the headlining? Surprised you didn't comment on mine :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 08:46
hey joe, iv not looked on yours just yet as iv been really busy with my music, gonna go have a peep in a sec :-)

got the pillars of damo yes matey, will have a full concept Recaro interior in the car soon too, but its gonna be retrimmed by MJ Interiors, door cards too  :cool:

not sure what to do re the roof liner, i might have it retrimmed in leather, mine isnt like thye later ones, my N Plate 16v had a fabric type liner which is what im guesiung your is too?  the one in this mk 3 is not fabric its hard to explain, its like vynil or something ?

 :cool:
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 08:46
HAHA really like that sig! where u find that too?

iv seen a few about, some have the mk 4 missing too :laugh:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 09 February 2010, 10:19
Oh yeah I know the type you're on about, think one of ours had the same roof lining (might have been my nans 1.4 'L')

Looking forward to seeing these seats!!
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 11:49
ill try get a pic of the seats tonight as im going over their to see em :-)
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Post by: DrewGTI on 09 February 2010, 18:46
Hey kells, loving the look of your mk3!  :cool:


getting my D90's sprayed up same kinda colour. . just wondered what rubber you got on and if i didnt go with the streached look what size?

also how do the adapters work, am i gonna need more bolts?
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 20:15
i run 195/45 rubber matey

go for 205/45s for less stretch mate

adapters come with all the bolts if you get the decent ones, (Fk) they just bolt on to the hub using the bolts they come with, and then the rim just fits on them as it would your normal hub, its that simple  :cool:

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Post by: DrewGTI on 09 February 2010, 21:38
yeah. . getting the FK ones  :cool: my bolts i have in my longbeachalloys be cool for theD90's then?  :smiley:


mie are 7j all round so if i went for the 195/45's will get the same look as your fronts
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Post by: kells on 09 February 2010, 22:49
i run hte bolts i had on my longbeach too

and my rims are all 8" wide mate, front and rears, wont be far off looks wise i wouldnt think tho mate
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 09 February 2010, 23:29
Can I just mention H&R adapters are the bee's knee's but you pay for them!

FK from what I've heard aren't bad.


What's these seats then mate? Cars looking good. :cool:
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Post by: kells on 10 February 2010, 00:12
Seats are Recaros like the colour concepts, but retrimmed by Mj interiors so the quality is ALOT better, will have stitched in Recaro logo and heat embossed MJ interiors logo, still deciding exactly how i want  them to be, will have rear headrests too of course as i hate mk 3 rear seats without them :-)

not sure what to do about door cards yet as its £££££ to have them retrimmed (cheepest he can do what i would want is £275 for the 4 door cards alone haha) so may look out for some highline ones or concept ones in black, so if anyone has any get in touch.

they will have a uprated heating element in them too (CARBON FIBRE) so the loom is different, i need a OEM dash switch and then need to adapt that to fit the loom that comes with the aftermarket heating elements, it comes with stand alone switches but i wanna run OEM versions. dont think it will be a problem tbh.. had alokk at the loom today, i may get a VW loom and modify it to the aftermarket loom etc
going for this set up because they get alot warmer and dont burn out, and most important they dont burn through the material which can cause damage to the leather, MJ showed me some examples, and also told me the VW pads are prone to fail..  i trust his opinion as he has been in this game along time and is very highly regarded 

the seats wont be ready till late march i dont think tho, something to look forward to :-)

check his website: (needs updating tho as its quite old now)

http://www.mjinteriors.co.uk/
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Post by: kells on 13 February 2010, 18:38
Been over at MJ interiors today, my new interior will be ready for next weekend, so ill be taking my car over and he will be putting it in with me..  cant wait :-)

just gotta source all the bits i need to convert the rear windows to electric as i dont wanna cut the new door cards
apparently i need the dash loom with conections for the dash mounted switch which will control the rear windows, the looms are different from 1995 onwards so i need a early type one. plus early type loom for both rear doors and obviously the mechs and motors

looking forward to getting it all sorted  :cool:
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Post by: T_J_G on 13 February 2010, 18:50
Should look good mate!
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Post by: kells on 13 February 2010, 19:05
yes matey, really cant wait, cant recommend MJ enough, he is a really top guy! and very very good at what he does.


just need to get the Bam in once this little lot is all done then ill be a happy chap haha :grin:
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Post by: T_J_G on 13 February 2010, 19:07
Yeah MJ trims are top, seen them on many (show) cars.
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Post by: kells on 13 February 2010, 19:14
yeah theirs always bits for show cars in his workshop, he has done a fair few retrims for some big name footballers etc too..my retrim is not so drastic, just black italian leather... but its what i wanted  :cool:
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Post by: LazyLunatic on 13 February 2010, 19:41
i see the letters BAM written and now im interested :D are you going through with it you reckon? you getting it done professionally or giving it a go yourself?
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Post by: kells on 13 February 2010, 21:25
was thinking to do it myself at my mates garage tbh, thry do alot of conversions, that said i do want a pro finish, but seen as my mate does bodyshop stuff, we were talkin about smoothing the bay

will deffo be doing it if my mate breaks his S3, which he says he 100% is, ill have all the bits i need off his car plus all the service history :cool:
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Post by: DrewGTI on 17 February 2010, 19:51
hey kells, hows thimgs? any news on the engine?


just wondering about your centre caps? once place can they be popped out easy by some chav?
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Post by: kells on 17 February 2010, 21:21
working on the recaro interior at the mo matey, its at MJ interiors as we type :cool:

my caps are the type that cant be removed unless you do it from the rear, (like when the rim is off)  some of the metal caps have 2 holes in them, these can be removed by some little robbing tw4t, luckily mine cant

which you got??  show me a pic
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Post by: DrewGTI on 18 February 2010, 08:09
ah cool, when do you get them back?



yeah, mine are same as yours....


(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs388.snc3/23694_313159041828_574076828_3982058_8120097_n.jpg)



thats good then!  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 18 February 2010, 12:21
hope to have them ready for the weekend, or just after, cannot wait, they are looking  :cool:

caps same as mine so your safe man, those are in mint condition too, where u pick them up? i wanted mine polished so it would have been a crime to strip those  :grin: :grin:
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Post by: DrewGTI on 18 February 2010, 21:11
awesome! cant wait for pictures man!  :cool:


got hold of a brand new set for £95!! thought it was money well spent as the wheels should hold there money.  :smiley:
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Post by: kells on 18 February 2010, 21:50
yeah ill get some up soon as its in the car :)

£95 is a good price mate, they are around £45 each at the dealers :wink:

as you say, good thing about these rims and caps is, you will get back what you spent on them, same goes for a MJ interior like iv got, this is the route im on with this project. CBA loosing lots of money   :grin:
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Post by: DrewGTI on 19 February 2010, 20:50
yeah. . thats the way i'm trying to go.


tasteful mods so other prople will like and then i wont lose any money if i sell. but to be honest i think i'll just keep it!  :cool:

get it looking the way i want then a engine swap!
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Post by: kells on 19 February 2010, 21:23
so your going same route as me then :cool:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 February 2010, 17:18
And mee :cool:

I've got it the way I want it, it just needs a respray and a faster engine :smiley:
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Post by: kells on 20 February 2010, 18:23
And mee :cool:

I've got it the way I want it, it just needs a respray and a faster engine :smiley:

yes mate, its the best way, you know the score :wink:

well i should have the new trim in the car just after the weekend, MJ is just waiting to get the stitching i want doing finishing off :-)

then its new alarm time and then hopefully my mate will be breaking the S3, which means BAM time.. hopefully...
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Post by: T_J_G on 25 February 2010, 21:06
Still no cow?
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Post by: kells on 25 February 2010, 22:05
Still no cow?


was over their last nite, almost done, SATURDAY im told  :cool:

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Post by: Toby on 25 February 2010, 22:14
cant wait to see some good progress.... its BAD :D
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Post by: kells on 25 February 2010, 22:20
BAD to the bone hahaha   :grin:

will post pics once iv got the new recaros in  :cool:
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Post by: T_J_G on 26 February 2010, 10:24
Still no cow?


was over their last nite, almost done, SATURDAY im told  :cool:



Happy days!
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Post by: Wayne on 26 February 2010, 10:57
Looking foward to the pics
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 26 February 2010, 13:21
It's not bad, it's terrible.

There's a difference.
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Post by: kells on 26 February 2010, 14:07
Even you cant BAD mouth a MJ retrimmed Recaro interior.... :evil:


 :huh: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 26 February 2010, 20:57
I'm sure we can all agree that you can't polish a turd.

This seems to be the closest thing available - effectively rolling one around in glitter.

Pick the glitter off and it's still the same thing underneath.
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Post by: kells on 26 February 2010, 21:59
ahh well, cant win em all eh   :laugh:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 February 2010, 20:54
Well..............................

?
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Post by: kells on 27 February 2010, 20:59
The recaros are in :-) and i love them

although iv yet to pick up the rear headrests as they were not ready (im having MJ logo heat stanmped on the headrests)  ill upload a sneaky pic tomo then the propper pics once rear headrests are here

one other thing that was funny was finding a bag stashed undder the carpet with lots of individually wrapped packages, turns out its crack and 2 cocaine...

this car has been a dealers car at some point, must have been when it was newer as the main bag they were stored has deteriorated, pics of it all to come, we were  :shocked: :shocked: tho!!!!
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 27 February 2010, 21:07
:laugh:

You crack 'ed!

Looking forward to the pics though, and you were well lucky you didn't get pulled and searched, particularly in a car like yours (no offense).
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Post by: kells on 27 February 2010, 21:09
:laugh:

 you were well lucky you didn't get pulled and searched, particularly in a car like yours (no offense).

i know matey exactly what we have all said..  :shocked:
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 13:33

Here is a quick sneaky couple of pics of the seats, ill get propper ones once i pick up the rear headrests and the front headrests tomo, i have the front headrests in but these are getting replace with ones with the MJ Interior logos heat stamped in which is a bit like how the colour concept logos are stamped in on the Colour concepts

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8103/90947190.jpg) (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/90947190.jpg/)

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9959/93530464.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/93530464.jpg/)

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4290/64479844.jpg) (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/64479844.jpg/)

and a couple of pics of what we foind hidden under the front seats/ carpet, a bag Full of small deals of crack and some of cocaine :shocked:

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1544/59310634.jpg) (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/59310634.jpg/)

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2461/77596010.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/77596010.jpg/)

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9345/81015330.jpg) (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/81015330.jpg/)
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 28 February 2010, 13:48
Seats look awesome mate.  I'm jealous!
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Post by: warnesey333 on 28 February 2010, 13:50
dude - that is one hell of a find lmao.

Good job you never got stopped and searched!
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 13:52
cheers Joe, absolutly love them. never want anything but recaro again!!

and yeah was a mad find, could have been nasty. we are very shocked !!
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Post by: Mew on 28 February 2010, 14:04
Seats look good, I don't see why you'd want the MJ logo though :undecided:
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 14:26
Seats look good, I don't see why you'd want the MJ logo though :undecided:

i liek the logo, and he is also one of the best re trimmers out their, the logo will help keep the value of the seats high later down the line.
The logo is not big and it looks cool,  plus im good mates with MJ so im happy to advertise his business, he is such a top guy, cant stress how much he is happy to help you out, he has given me the gear gaitor and has given me a highlinbe centre consol too, plus loads of gliptone care creams etc

im really happy with the work he has done
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Post by: Andy-H on 28 February 2010, 14:33
Very nice seats those Mate.

They look really comfy, bet it smells really nice in there as well  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 14:58
Very nice seats those Mate.

They look really comfy, bet it smells really nice in there as well  :cool:

was just gonna say, THE SMELL   :tongue:  luvley :evil:

makes the old gti seats feel so sh!te sitting in these. the leather is real nice quality compaired to whats in my mk 4 as standard, you can reallt tell the difference!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: shepgti on 28 February 2010, 16:02
how did you get your seats to mj? did you take them or courier them? :undecided:
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Post by: Dec on 28 February 2010, 16:30
Damn! They make my old colour concept recaro's look like poo!
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Post by: Mikester on 28 February 2010, 16:30
Are these your original cloth gti seats retrimmed?
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Post by: Wayne on 28 February 2010, 16:40
Awesome :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 16:47
Are these your original cloth gti seats retrimmed?

no mate, these are/were cloth recaros which were fooked, they now have all brand new bolsters from recaro, and are re trimmed in nappa italian leather by MJ, they also have uprated heating pads in them which are carbon fibre

shep, MJ's is only about 12 mile from me, iv known him a few years now and he has become a good friend, we fitted them at his place together yesterday.

He is always doing all the magazine cars and footballers cars etc, look in PVW mag and you will see how many show cars use MJ

you can courier stuff to him tho no problem, alot of people do
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 28 February 2010, 21:10
very nice seats you've got there! been looking forward to seeing wot they look like. managed to sort out getting a mk3 golf heater control switch linked to your uprated seat loom?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 21:13
very nice seats you've got there! been looking forward to seeing wot they look like. managed to sort out getting a mk3 golf heater control switch linked to your uprated seat loom?

working on it matey, got my electrician mate coming to see me friday, both the aftermarket loo where it comes out of the seats and the VAG loom wher eit would plug into the factory elements both have 4 wires but im unsure which wire goes where, might have a look tomo, but if not Friday all been well ill have it all up and running  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 February 2010, 21:17
I hate them, I mean come on, they aren't in my car.  :grin: :grin: :grin:


They look real nice man. Doubt many have taken the old cloth Recaros and re-trimmed before. Hope you've gotten rid of the drugs too, don't wanna get done for possession.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: T_J_G on 28 February 2010, 21:25
Seats look nice Kells!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 21:38
cheers guys  :-)

Shady they were fooked before the rebuild and re trim, all brand new cushions and side bolsters direct from recaro so they are like brand new.

originally was just gonna have them re done in the late type factory material and my rears to match.... till i started seeing the leather retrims he was doing everytime i was at his :grin:

expensive but they will hold their value and its well worth it, they look superb and have transformed my sh!te interior, iv compaired the leather to the standard leather in the mk4 and its a class above...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 February 2010, 22:30
:cool:

Very, very jealous.


I mean:

I know I'd be making a loss, but for you mate, I'll do it. I'm willing to swap my beautiful, amazingly sh!te awesome beige cloth interior with your lower quality interior, I know you are trying to perfect it and well, my interior would complete your car minus engine, so I'm willing to sacrifice it. :undecided:

I'll arrange a courier yes?

Did you sniff the crack then? LOL :grin: Kiddin'.
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 22:36
 :grin: :grin:  cheers matty ill snap your arm off on that offer  :evil:

not touching the crack, a mate said he could sell it on as he knows someone who takes it,  and make me quite alot of cash but its going down the loo mate, dont want that on my back. iv already taken a big enough risk driving round with all this in my car, and obviously at the times of day this car is on the road its always a big chance of getting stopped for a random check..

still not sure what the other powder is, an educated guess is coke, but im not gonna try find out thats for sure!  :grin:
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Post by: Matty-MK3 on 28 February 2010, 22:38
:grin: :grin:  cheers matty ill snap your arm off on that offer  :evil:

not touching the crack, a mate said he could sell it on as he knows someone who takes it,  and make me quite alot of cash but its going down the loo mate, dont want that on my back. iv already taken a big enough risk driving round with all this in my car, and obviously at the times of day this car is on the road its always a big chance of getting stopped for a random check..

still not sure what the other powder is, an educated guess is coke, but im not gonna try find out thats for sure!  :grin:

Best decision TBF, only got to take that guy to sell it on to a mate etc. etc. one guy to rat and well there we go. Plus it's naughty naughty.

Flush it quick! :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: GOLF_STU on 28 February 2010, 22:40
ha ha snap!! i found drugs when i took my golfs centre console out  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 22:42
yep too true, its as good as gone now mate anyhow  :wink:

Stu i dont mind a bit of personal but finding a dealers haul was a bit much haha :laugh: their was loads of the stuff, saved a few for the pics, rest is long gone, whats left is going in a mo too
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Wayne on 28 February 2010, 22:52
Was'nt the last owner a Doctor  :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 22:56
the first owner was a doctor, hence the cars original plate of L9 DOC..  i dont know whats happened since he had the car and i got the car.. and if that person registerd it, i just dunno,  its from southend on sea originally, but theirs paperwork and documents from castleford, sheffield and barnsley with the car...so its spent time their, i think the car has seen some underworld activity between me and the doc...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ EARLY G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS**
Post by: Wayne on 28 February 2010, 23:15
Sounds like it.
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Post by: kells on 28 February 2010, 23:35
few things are making sense now as when i got it, their was parts of interior trim missing, and also bits round the sunroof so the roof liner could be dropped easily, the sunroof motor was also missing (stash point maybe)

this is probably when the car slipped into a bad state as the records with it showed it had been welll looked after, i could never understand how tho as it was full of dints when i got it..

im glad iv got it on private plates anyhow haha :grin:
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Post by: Adam on 02 March 2010, 16:30
the first owner was a doctor, hence the cars original plate of L9 DOC..  i dont know whats happened since he had the car and i got the car.. and if that person registerd it, i just dunno,  its from southend on sea originally, but theirs paperwork and documents from castleford, sheffield and barnsley with the car...so its spent time their, i think the car has seen some underworld activity between me and the doc...

Doctor of drugs?  :lipsrsealed: Takes someone with experience to make drugs.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS PG 31**
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 19:59
Cleaned today, pics below




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Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 20:02

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Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK OE+ G3 GTI.... MJ INTERIORS RECAROS, AND DRUG FIND. **PICS PG 31**
Post by: Wayne on 07 March 2010, 20:03
Awesome :afro:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 07 March 2010, 20:05
Black badges dude, black badges :wink:

I'm tempted to copy your rear light mod too. I have a spare pair of rear lights.
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Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 20:09
cheers wayne. more pics added above  :cool:

gonna stick with stock badges on the front matey for now OEM stylee :cool:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 07 March 2010, 20:10
At least try it? :cry:
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Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 20:13
i might do matey, i just dont wanna take it too far away from standard, i like the silver VW badge as it breaks it up and i wanna leave the GTI badge in place even more so when the Bam goes in  :grin: 

tbh i just like the clean GTI look, undecided on black badges :undecided:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 07 March 2010, 20:15
Hairy muff :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 20:16
HAHAHA  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Wayne on 07 March 2010, 20:18
Black badges ftw
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 07 March 2010, 21:35
very smart dude! looking great. i always think black is the best colour when cleaned up, then again im biased owning black cars lol. ur engine bay looks very clean aswell, u have ur rocker cover re-painted/powdercoated?
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Post by: Tease-MotorSport on 07 March 2010, 21:42
Sweeeeeeet looking Car mate....

Just read the whole Topic! Did you say how much the Re-trim was?
I read all of DH's Comments..... What a Narrow Minded DOUCHE!
Keep up the Good Work!!!!!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 21:50
thanx for the nice comments

The engine is bare metal polished by my own hands hehe

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the retrim was expensive as its nappa leather and done by MJ but his retrims start at about £850 for normal leather  :cool:
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Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 07 March 2010, 21:53
blinkin heck,. bet u went thought some pads/man hours not just doin the head, but alternator etc. it a b!tch to keep clean? looks smart, stands out!
 think id like mine powder coated silver for the OE look
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 21:57
gotta keep up to it yes mate haha, its used every day this car, never meant to take it so far but just sort of happened, cant help it i always end up polishing my cars engines  :grin:

powerdercoated would be cool man
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: dom on 07 March 2010, 22:51
After just reading thru all 36 pages of this thread i've gotta say Kells, this is the nicest looking Mk3 I think i've seen! I'm so jealous  :angry: I love the OEM look.

Also just listened to your remix of Baby Girl as well....sick!  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 23:08
After just reading thru all 36 pages of this thread i've gotta say Kells, this is the nicest looking Mk3 I think i've seen! I'm so jealous  :angry: I love the OEM look.

Also just listened to your remix of Baby Girl as well....sick!  :grin:

ahh cheers matey thats nice of you to say  :wink:

Baby girl is really really big in the club i play, glad you liked it, i enjoyed making it  :cool:
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Post by: mumbles on 07 March 2010, 23:35
Looking sweet Kells, loving the look of it right now. I think you should keep the front badge silver, as you say helps break up the front a bit and it really stands out. Propper impressed with the engine, trying to get through the years of crap on mine is a nightmare, getting there though! :afro:

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 07 March 2010, 23:37
Feeling this car TBH.

Much prefer it to all this "show scene" tat.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 07 March 2010, 23:40
thanks alot for compliments guys, really great to hear nice words on the car, i give it alot of my time trying to keep it looking fresh. put some pics on ed38 thinking it would be too OE for them but they really like it too :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: DubSociety on 10 March 2010, 08:32
RATED. Especially due to the fact its your daily ... what a stunner!

The summer days are really gonna show your motor off --- can't wait to get working on mine aswell when the holidays kick in.

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 09:01
cheers dude  :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 09:05
I love it kells, looks absolutely mint :cool:

but can i ask why have you got shorter plates?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 09:50
because the number is shorter and i dont like alot of blank plate if that makes sense, its still legal, you need to have at least 11mm round the edge of your lettering and iv more than that

plus i just prefere the look of it, looks a bit more mean :laugh: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 10:05
because the number is shorter and i dont like alot of blank plate if that makes sense, its still legal, you need to have at least 11mm round the edge of your lettering and iv more than that

plus i just prefere the look of it, looks a bit more mean :laugh: :cool:

fair enough bud.

btw, i need to sit in your seats, cause you just cant tell how good they are by looking at them! you got the heating elements wired in with the switches, etc yet?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 10:18
got all the heated elements working via a switch they came with which iv hidden as iv just put in the OEM loom, and dash switch, iv converted that to red illumination and its lit up, my electrician mate is coming friday this week or next to get the 2 loomes fused together so its working via the OEM switch :cool:

they get toasty warm tho its ace haha, and the seats are just soooo fookin good to sit in, these are like new as they have all brand new genuine Recaro bolsters and cusionings fitted. MJ is awesome, i get my rear headrests back this saturday too  :cool:


i just want the engine in the car now, then im just about happy
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 10:49
good sh!t :cool:

sounds right bud, a nice looking mint bay with a BAM sitting in the middle, and i'd say its done :afro:

Then mine would be the ghetto version of yours :D
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 11:01
 :grin: :grin: im liking that  :wink:

gonna go for a oem look in the bay i think.... just waiting on my mate with the S3, he just lost his job so hopefully this will speed him up  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 11:14
:grin: :grin: im liking that  :wink:

gonna go for a oem look in the bay i think.... just waiting on my mate with the S3, he just lost his job so hopefully this will speed him up  :laugh:

sounds good :afro:

What you doing about management and your clocks/dash, etc?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 11:22
at the moment (could change)  im going for full S3 set up, clocks loom, ecu etc, then a superchips remap and id be happy with that

my close firend owns his own turbo company so he is going to refurb and hybrid the turbo for cost price no labour so thats a bonus. Obviously will run a FMI behind the bumper painte dblack so its not noticable and will prob rock black silicone hoses so from the outside it looks like a normal GTI
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 12:35
at the moment (could change)  im going for full S3 set up, clocks loom, ecu etc, then a superchips remap and id be happy with that

my close firend owns his own turbo company so he is going to refurb and hybrid the turbo for cost price no labour so thats a bonus. Obviously will run a FMI behind the bumper painte dblack so its not noticable and will prob rock black silicone hoses so from the outside it looks like a normal GTI

OK, sounds good. Where you getting it done? I take it your going to make the engine look OEM too, with the cover, etc?

... and k04 hybrid :shocked: so you should be looking at 300+bhp

will we see a Quaife product find its way into your gearbox? oh and 02a or the s3 6 speed?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 13:52
not sure where to get it done, my mate say he can do it at his garage, they do alot of conversions, but i dunno if to go somewhere who has a rep for it then the car will be worth ££££££  if that makes sense

MJ who did my seats has connections with everyone and has sais he will speak to people for me, also he thinks i should rock the S3 box 6 speed.
i was originally gonna go with the 02A

OEM i think so with the cover etc, but you know me their may be polished metals their too, but they are hard to keep clean, whatever i do the car will be kept usable so it will be easy to sell on...  too many cars are too faffy which makes them un usable on a day to day basis

and yeah the turbo should help with power  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: VR6-Joe on 10 March 2010, 14:00
You work at Tesco but are you gonna scan doe :huh:?


LOVE this. Swap me your seats for a Cadburys creme egg :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 14:14
who works at tesco?? get me one of the choc bunny things hahah

And make it 2 eggs and its a deal joe  :tongue: :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: VR6-Joe on 10 March 2010, 14:47
Done deal!!

Haha foooook knows, saw that on facebook and it made me laugh
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 14:53
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 10 March 2010, 14:56
defo the 6 speed box if its being done elsewhere.

What places are up near you that would do it? Awesome gti are over in manchester.... cant think off any other places i've read in the mags that are up near you.

The phirm, but they are in hampshire...
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 10 March 2010, 16:04
i cant remember the name of this guy MJ told me to use.. im gonna ask him on Saturday when i see him, MJ is the guy that did my seats as i say he has alot of contacts seen as he does all the mag cars etc. ill have to see/think about it. im guessing it wont be cheep to have it done.. well not as cheep as doing at my mates garage :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 11 March 2010, 12:12
finally pulled my finger out and got myself some WINTER centre caps for my D90's even tho we are almost out of winter :grin: :rolleyes:  its been a pain having to keep polishing and sealing my polished metal caps. I do have 2 sets of polished caps i refurbed but i want to keep one set of those stashed well away

anyhow, got some black ones with metal colour crests as i thought they look good with the black paint, will run these till theirs no more grit on the roads

just finished re polishing my metal caps so they are ready to go back on  :cool:

pic of the black caps on the car (wheels are dirty)

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6302/image033r.jpg) (http://img251.imageshack.us/i/image033r.jpg/)



and one of my cherished polished caps  :grin:

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/761/capswd.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/capswd.jpg/)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Dmonday on 11 March 2010, 12:16
that re-trim looks awsome :laugh: and im liking the centre caps!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: DrewGTI on 18 March 2010, 15:21
Some the same as your interior redone by MJ
on eBay for £900 buy it now!!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 18 March 2010, 16:04
those not nappa leather either haha, he isnt cheep but he is fantastic at what he does
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 11:04
my friend with the S3 came to see me this morning, says he is breaking the car in around a month. struck a deal on the engine, Gearbox, ECU, Clocks, Full looms, Front Breaks and anything else i need for the conversion all for 450 quid!  im well happy with that, its a 2001 bam engine with full audi history and 80k on the clock

just playing the waiting game now :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 19 March 2010, 11:08
my friend with the S3 came to see me this morning, says he is breaking the car in around a month. struck a deal on the engine, Gearbox, ECU, Clocks, Full looms, Front Breaks and anything else i need for the conversion all for 450 quid!  im well happy with that, its a 2001 bam engine with full audi history and 80k on the clock

just playing the waiting game now :cool:

you lucky *uck!

:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 11:17
 :grin: :grin:

i know, bit of a bargain aint it, well pleased.

mate is gonna rebuild and hybrid the turbo too, engine is MINT too, looks like new and all the covers are present not broken
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: LazyLunatic on 19 March 2010, 11:27
:grin: :grin:

i know, bit of a bargain aint it, well pleased.

mate is gonna rebuild and hybrid the turbo too, engine is MINT too, looks like new and all the covers are present not broken

schweet!

you going to strip it and paint it? or polish it up like you do everything! :D

i really wish i had stripped mine and painted it before it went in :(
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Wayne on 19 March 2010, 11:29
my friend with the S3 came to see me this morning, says he is breaking the car in around a month. struck a deal on the engine, Gearbox, ECU, Clocks, Full looms, Front Breaks and anything else i need for the conversion all for 450 quid!  im well happy with that, its a 2001 bam engine with full audi history and 80k on the clock

just playing the waiting game now :cool:

Bargain :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 11:41
you know me, i cant help but cleaning stuff so ill be messing with it before it goes in the car yeah :grin: i think i need to with how my car is, you pull it off well as you got the whole rat look thing going on but mines like the oppersite to that.

im in no rush to fit it so i mite even have the engine re built
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Rhyso on 19 March 2010, 11:43
thats fecking silly cheap!!  :shocked: :shocked:

What's wrong with the S3 if its only got 80K on the clock  :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Dec on 19 March 2010, 11:57
I like the S3 news :cool:

How does it work with only using it front wheel drive as I thought that even older S3's were Quattro? :embarassed: Im an idiot so probably wrong!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Rhyso on 19 March 2010, 12:01
I like the S3 news :cool:

How does it work with only using it front wheel drive as I thought that even older S3's were Quattro? :embarassed: Im an idiot so probably wrong!

just block off the rear prop shaft port i would have thought or something along those lines
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 12:32
the S3 has been damaged on the rear, he has claimed on the insurance and bought the car back, its such a easy repair it seems a shame not to put it back on the road

it has also got a mint fullblack Recaro leather interior which will be up for grabs

plus just about everything else and all parts to repair the car..  he is after the newer shape S3 hence the sale of the car in bits, all money he makes plus the insurance payout will be going towards new car

he is after quick sale on everything, car was pretty much mint
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 19 March 2010, 12:34
Dec you should buy all the panels off him and have them weled onto yours as the S3 were wider  :cool: not sure if its same model type as yours tho, his is a 2001
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Dec on 21 March 2010, 02:34
Dec you should buy all the panels off him and have them weled onto yours as the S3 were wider  :cool: not sure if its same model type as yours tho, his is a 2001

Unfortunately thats the older shape kells or I would have had a load of bits! The new shape S3's were brought out in 06 I think. Would have snapped the whole front end up :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 16:06
finally got my rear doors converted to electric - was a pain in the ass finding the parts to do the job, massive thanx to doug over on club GTI  :cool:

basically early spec cars like mine run a different wiring loom to the later cars, and to fit rear electric windows you have to replace the full electrical wiring loom!!! this runs from the fuse box to both A pillars, then it runs down both sides of the car to the B pillars and on the drivers side right up to the central locking pump. At the fuse box which is a nightmare in its self i had to trace all the wires unplug them and then repace with my new loom  THIS WAS A RIGHT FOOKIN JOB and took some pissing about.

i managed to get the new loom inplace in the exact location as the original loom, for the factory finish, to do this most the dash was out as were all the side panels and kick plates plus all boot lining

i also had to replace the door looms with the looms out of a car which had electrics (again this lot had to be out of a early spec car as the conectors changed on later cars

I also had to get some electric window regulators and all the switched (plus convert them to red illumination to match all my others)

got it all back together and everything worked as it should BONUS :laugh:


Here is the looms i had to remove, no pic of the new one but it was a combination loom and not all sepertate like this lot!! some of the plugs were a different colour which caused some issues but i managed to work out what was what

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6820/sv202818.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/sv202818.jpg/)


a few pics of the rear seats now i got the rear headrests in

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8190/sv202812.jpg) (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/sv202812.jpg/)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/15/sv202814.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/sv202814.jpg/)

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2084/sv202815.jpg) (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/sv202815.jpg/)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9817/sv202816.jpg) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/sv202816.jpg/)

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8135/sv202820.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/sv202820.jpg/)
 




Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: Wayne on 20 April 2010, 16:11
Looks awesome :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK EX DRUG DEALERS G3 GTI.. MJ INTERIORS RECAROS + DRUG FIND.
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 16:13
thanx matey  :wink:

really pleased with it all,

next job is new rubber and MOT time
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 20 April 2010, 18:25
wondered if you got round to this job. herd ot wud be a full loom jobbie. well done mate, bet ur chuffed
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 18:44
yes matey very happy, ill be honest their was a moment i did not think the wiring would all go back and the car would work again, so i thought i might have to break it  :sad:, but i kept at it and got it all back as tho it had come from the factory as it is now. a lengthy job  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:09
Full of win.. as per usual!

I need a favour though :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:10
hehe, how can i be of help this time buddie  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:15
The lowest point of your subframe.. how far is it from the floor (in cm) ??

This part..

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs426.snc3/24598_1441654399479_1176646283_31327029_3388350_n.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:19
that is going to be hard to measure matey, ill have a look in a bit, how come u need to know this?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:21
I measured mine earlier and was wondering if yours was lower than mine :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jonnypolish on 20 April 2010, 19:22
Your seats are the nuts! Nice grab on teh BAM!

I claim the seats when they come out  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:32
cheers jonny matey :)

joe its aprox 4 to 4.5 cms from the ground that part

tried to take a pic of the underside of the car but cant really get under

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5469/sv202823.jpg) (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/sv202823.jpg/)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:36
sh!t a brick... cheers dude

mine's 3cm :embarassed:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:39
i have a bit that hangs lower than this tho which is causing me probs, its a bracket thing that goes over the exhaust!

mine is around the 85/90mm down mark so thats why yours is 3cm as your at 120 aint you?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 19:43
I've wound the front coilovers off the threads so it should be about 120mm I hope?? The rear isn't as low because I didn't want it to sit down at the rear like a Saxo :grin:

The central exhaust bracket only gives me grief on speed bumps
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 19:47
thart bracket scraps on my drive, i wonder if the GTI is different on the underside to yours??  iv still got  few threads to go, mine go down to 120, thinking about it i bet mine is closer to the 100mm mark.. iv got mine the same at the back, its a level drop, im not into the nose down look myself but i also dont like the nose up look either haha :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 20:05
The reason I got my stretched tyres was so that I could go down at the back.. so mine sits level now aswell :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 20 April 2010, 21:42
I think we need pics of the cars side by side to compare  :tongue:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 22:00
Yea.. come to Suffolk Kells :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 20 April 2010, 22:20
pop round in 5 mins mate  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6-Joe on 20 April 2010, 22:21
I'll stick the beers in the fridge :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 21 April 2010, 20:19
I think you should invest in a brake light spoiler like Spadys.

OEM VW.

Just what I would do if your car was mine.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 21 April 2010, 21:23
i know what you are saying but just want to leave the original period spoiler in place, did have the highline colour coded item to go on but changed the old mind at the last min  :grin:

also not a huge fan of break lights in spoilers,  but thats just my personal opinion :nerd:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 21 April 2010, 21:36
i know what you are saying but just want to leave the original period spoiler in place, did have the highline colour coded item to go on but changed the old mind at the last min  :grin:

also not a huge fan of break lights in spoilers,  but thats just my personal opinion :nerd:



+1 don't think they look right to be honest.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 21 April 2010, 21:49
I think they look sporty. :undecided:

Also a pet hate of mine is MK3 brake lights, they look like tailights. :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 21 April 2010, 22:02
I like my brake light in the middle, better than just the standard two.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 21 April 2010, 22:41
Yeah my spoilers a bit shat.

+ it puts my insurance up by £14.50 a year. :cry:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dubstar83 on 21 April 2010, 23:15
nice1 kell av a black mk3 gti got some chrome an black wheels on way wldnt mind startin thread aswell havent a clue how 2 get pics on tho
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 22 April 2010, 16:40
nice1 kell av a black mk3 gti got some chrome an black wheels on way wldnt mind startin thread aswell havent a clue how 2 get pics on tho


cheers dude

i use www.imageshack.us to host my pictures, can even re size them on their, just copy and paste the FORUM code off the site onto here and it puts the pics up
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jahilton2002 on 22 April 2010, 22:03
Yep your car rocks..... i'm gonna do a red one, already got the headlights lol  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tdi_blu on 22 April 2010, 22:17
Didnt read through all 43 pages but this car looks so right really nice job kells  :wink:
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Post by: Bellend on 22 April 2010, 23:07
Inspiration this.  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 23 April 2010, 10:02
Wow, cheers guys, thanks for the comments  :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 23 April 2010, 10:19
Yea.. come to Suffolk Kells :grin:

Make it essex as its in the middle (really not in the middle but closer for kells and me haha)

Seats look sick mate!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 23 April 2010, 10:21
you guys need to come up north, make a weekend of it, go to the club, etc, its full of fit birds so well worth it  :grin:

going to ask my mate about the audi rims today for u Dec mate, he been away :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 23 April 2010, 10:55
Got a gf mate so no need for girls but she's at kiss weekender in 3 weeks or something so a definate possibility to come up! I'll give you a text about it :)

ah sweet man let me know :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 May 2010, 16:51
Needed some new brakes on the front, as the ones that were on were shot

Mintex discs and Pads, which will do till i get the S3 brakes on (and Tarox Discs)

Old V New

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3116/image046ts.jpg) (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/image046ts.jpg/)

check out how bad the old pads were against the new ones :shocked: down to the bone man  :grin:

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6595/image043ax.jpg) (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/image043ax.jpg/)


all done

(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4958/image044q.jpg) (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/image044q.jpg/)

Removed an old imobiliser, im getting a dab hand with the fuse box now after fitting the new looms the other week  :laugh:

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3761/image052i.jpg) (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/image052i.jpg/)

and gave it a quick clean

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7340/5555555x.jpg) (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/5555555x.jpg/)

Now off to make tea  :cool:



Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: DrewGTI on 05 May 2010, 17:16
Them wires look messy! Rather you than me mate!  :laugh:

what size adapters you running again matey?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 05 May 2010, 17:58
Mannnn, wonder what my pads are going to look like :tongue:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 May 2010, 18:06
mine were right down to the metal, they were genuine VW items too. discs had a right lip on them and i was getting serious brake fade so they had to go

MOT tomo so best to get them on the car


Drew the fronts are 25mm
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: DrewGTI on 05 May 2010, 18:21
How bout rears matey?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 May 2010, 18:36
seems everyione wants my set ups haha
 :grin:
30, major work done on all 4 arches

got a set of 30's for the front too but they are a bit too much, 25 all round is pretty much spot on unless you go major low
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: adzgti3 on 05 May 2010, 18:45
car look very clean and tidy mate.

 :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: DrewGTI on 05 May 2010, 18:52
seems everyione wants my set ups haha
 :grin:
30, major work done on all 4 arches

got a set of 30's for the front too but they are a bit too much, 25 all round is pretty much spot on unless you go major low


hmmmm. . mine are 25mm all rounf 7j D90's... was gonna pop 30 0r 35 on rear...
plus drup it a little more! might leave it 25mm and drop it on them?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 May 2010, 23:23
id leave at 25mm and drop more, mines had alot done to the arches, before this i could not get as low and a shreadded a yoko in the process on the arch  :sad:
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Post by: azzrobz on 06 May 2010, 14:11
Loving your car Kell's, I realy want your seats, but with the check anni inserts, (keeping it oem looking) its wat they shulda done with all the anni interiors. if not all leather interiors.
keep up the good work on the batmobile!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 06 May 2010, 17:45
cheers dude :)

iv seen people retrim the recaros like mine but use the annie cloth, as you say, you need to keep that pattern as its what helps make a annie  :smiley:

Just got car back from MOT, what can i say..... i love this car, another year with no advisorys, thats wioth the hids, stretched rubber, etc, and it even passed the emmisions with what i thought was a broken oxygen sensor which i repaired  :cool:

all good, and im very pleased.

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 06 May 2010, 17:54

Just got car back from MOT, what can i say..... i love this car, another year with no advisorys, thats wioth the hids, stretched rubber, etc, and it even passed the emmisions with what i thought was a broken oxygen sensor which i repaired  :cool:


Congrats dude :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 06 May 2010, 17:55
cheers dom matey, its always good to get a clean sheet :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 06 May 2010, 17:59
My old 1.4 heap of a Mk3 sailed through the last one before I sold it. Just one advisory for a tyre!

I was expecting it to fail on all kinds of things, such a good feeling when I got the call saying it had passed  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 17:34
Saw my future car whilst in the city earlier, the bright Green one  :evil: :cool:

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1552/image049t.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/image049t.jpg/)

on a serious tip,

Should have my BAM in july for the mk 3, then just need to fit it
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Post by: Dec on 11 May 2010, 17:35
I love RS's :evil:
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Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 17:37
me too, my gf says she will pay the deposit on one for me if she can have the mk 3  :kiss:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 11 May 2010, 17:38
Not bad !

My gf says.. hurry up and earn more so I dont have to work. :rolleyes: :tongue:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 17:42
GET RID NOW  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 11 May 2010, 17:43
Haha :tongue:

Her mum's just retired.. at 43 :P alrite for some!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: zdebx on 11 May 2010, 17:53
Naaaaaaaaaahhhh, RS's are nice, especially the new ones, but it's still a Ford :D
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Post by: kells on 11 May 2010, 17:56
yeah i love fords, always have loved all the RS models
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 06 June 2010, 01:02
Couple of crap snaps of when i met jonnypolish today at our bodyshop, put these in the mk3 section too :)

Top guys, really good to meet you :)

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5213/dsc00604gh.jpg) (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/dsc00604gh.jpg/)

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6008/dsc00605bh.jpg) (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/dsc00605bh.jpg/)

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4199/dsc00607s.jpg) (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/dsc00607s.jpg/)
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Post by: kells on 07 June 2010, 22:35
Another random shot i had sent to me

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/612/image050f.jpg) (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/image050f.jpg/)

and a pic of a funny letter i got in the post from VW  (if only they knew haha  :evil:)

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/329/letterj.jpg) (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/letterj.jpg/)
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Post by: T_J_G on 08 June 2010, 12:53
WTF it doesn't even rhyme..!
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Post by: kells on 08 June 2010, 13:08
 :grin: i know, bit of a strange one aint it haha, its some competition VW are running, this was on the outside of the envelope.. :grin:
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Post by: Jimp on 08 June 2010, 13:11
Loving the shots of your car and jonnypolish's car  :cool: It shows how different two mk3s can look even with similar bits  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 08 June 2010, 13:19
cheers matey, pics were not that great quality, think he got some better ones, was good to meet him, great bunch of guys, they came all the was up from London too  :cool:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 13 June 2010, 22:09
Ha, that is commitment and reputation for ya ;)
Your guys did amazing work.. Wouldn't have spent my money anywhere else! And a pleasure to meeet!
A couple of days and i'll have our pics uploaded even if they are from the same angles just better quality :D

On another note, in that random shot your rear lights look especially dark, have they been smoked?
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Post by: kells on 14 June 2010, 08:40
aye matey i did a joey mod on those little fellas  :cool:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 14 June 2010, 18:41
Did think they looked darker than usual! Blend in quite nicely with the paintwork!
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Post by: kells on 14 June 2010, 19:39
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/128/87760398.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/87760398.jpg/)

(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8618/rearlights1wx7.jpg)
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 14 June 2010, 23:20
Also got a set on mine courtesy of kells:

(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt25/Shady_Pioneer/Random%20Pics/DSC_0411.jpg?t=1276553982)

:afro:
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Post by: kells on 15 June 2010, 08:53
looking very good they are too,  :cool: :wink:

car looks well their too m8  :smiley:
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Post by: spear on 15 June 2010, 08:57
Liking the rear lights guys. Did you spray the inside or outside of the lights to get that look?

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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 15 June 2010, 12:44
looking very good they are too,  :cool: :wink:

car looks well their too m8  :smiley:

Cheers bud. I'll be keeping them in case I get another MK3.  :grin:
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Post by: kells on 15 June 2010, 13:20
 :grin: you do right tho  :wink:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 15 June 2010, 17:22
Looking tidy! Wheres my hook up  :sad:
Think i may have to join the joey modders and do mine  :laugh:
After i rip off my VR Splitter and destroy my exhaust of course  :evil:
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Post by: kells on 15 June 2010, 19:48
i would have done em for u when u was up matey if id have known
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 26 June 2010, 18:12
Car has had Major detail session and now looks like its had a respray, truly amazing results pics do not do it justice

they are here:


http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=159371.0

also on a side not, think ill have my BAM engine in my garage in around 8 weeks time all been well  :cool:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 26 June 2010, 18:23
:o Moving quickly mate!
Think us Londoners will have to come up and see you when its in, or come down to our meets
(and show the Supercharged VR's who's boss  :cool:)
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Post by: kells on 02 July 2010, 10:36
A few pics i like from the thread in the detailing section:

If you aint seen it already, the full thread is here with a load more pics:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=159371.0


(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4639/img0024dyk.jpg) (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/img0024dyk.jpg/)

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4213/img0029k.jpg) (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/img0029k.jpg/)

(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/1555/img0200xu.jpg) (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/img0200xu.jpg/)


(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1360/img0203ik.jpg) (http://img295.imageshack.us/i/img0203ik.jpg/)
   
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8518/img0204wf.jpg) (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/img0204wf.jpg/)



(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3033/img0207co.jpg) (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/img0207co.jpg/)
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Post by: kells on 02 July 2010, 10:39
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7823/img0208ll.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/img0208ll.jpg/)

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3662/img0218s.jpg) (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/img0218s.jpg/)


(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5936/img0215ed.jpg) (http://img180.imageshack.us/i/img0215ed.jpg/)

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/369/img0216wc.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/img0216wc.jpg/)
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Post by: Jimp on 02 July 2010, 17:50
Looks sweet  :cool: Do you have smoked lamin-x or something on your dual rounds or are they smoked like that anyway?
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Post by: Toopay_MkIII_GT on 02 July 2010, 21:40
looks like it just rolled out the factory! great work there. ive been wanting to buy a G220 machine polisher and some products for a while now. love seeing detailing
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Post by: Wayne on 02 July 2010, 21:42
Looks sweet  :cool: Do you have smoked lamin-x or something on your dual rounds or are they smoked like that anyway?

Hellas were available in smoked or clear.
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Post by: archie837 on 02 July 2010, 23:47
such a boojy interior. Need to get myself some rear headrest seats
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 03 July 2010, 15:15
cheers guys,

jimp the hellas are genuine smoked (came like this)

Toopay_MkIII_GT, do it matey, everywhere i go in this mk3 people just look at at and i get so many compliments, makes all the hard work seem worthy  :cool:

P.S dont forget i use this car everyday no matter what the weather etc, and this is all original paint work unlike many others. It is a well used car and i keep it looking this fresh at all times, takes some doing but as i say, its well worth the effort

 :smiley:
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Post by: kells on 04 July 2010, 19:01
Another pic i found on my iphone i like

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2023/gtin.jpg) (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/gtin.jpg/)

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Post by: dubsport on 04 July 2010, 19:13
^ hard as nails  :evil:
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Post by: kells on 04 July 2010, 19:18
angry looking car  :cool: :evil:
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Post by: Dec on 04 July 2010, 22:57
That pic is awesome!
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Post by: kells on 04 July 2010, 23:09
That pic is awesome!

Yeah I love it too. Was taken on the new iPhone 4 :-)
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Post by: archie837 on 04 July 2010, 23:14


Yeah I love it too. Was taken on the new iPhone 4 :-)

Aye was gonna say, iPhone photo are you sure? It's nice and clear! Took one on my 3g earlier and  :undecided: rubbish!
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Post by: tdi_blu on 04 July 2010, 23:20
car looks stunning mate  :shocked: pop round and do mine if you want  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 05 July 2010, 09:14
Cheers matey. -)


ARchie,yep iPhone 4, the new one, really good
At pics I was surprised too
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Dec on 05 July 2010, 10:10
iphone 3gs pics arent toooo bad, just need a little tweaking in photoshop or lightroom to get the colour to be vibrant :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jonnypolish on 08 July 2010, 19:29
Sorry its taken so long mate but here are our pics from the trip up  :smug:

(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31014.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31013.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31012.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31011.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31009.jpg)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31008.jpg)
Same as your one but better quality  :cool:
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31007.jpg)
And one of your car which looks superb mate ;)
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31006.jpg)

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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 20:38
Missed opportunity here......

You know that film Dumb and Dumber.....

You should have re-enacted some of the scenes with the cars and then the owners.  :grin:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 July 2010, 20:42
Your pathetic. That is all.
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 20:48
Sweet pics matey, nice one, was a good day :)

ignore that fat tw4t, he is getting obsessive about me now...

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Post by: avengedslayer on 08 July 2010, 20:48
This front end on kells car is awesome, ispiration for my estate,  :smiley:
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 20:51
cheers buddie, look forward to your estate project  :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 20:59
ignore that fat tw4t,

On what basis am I 'fat'?  Just curious - it's a new insult for you.  You must have seen a fat person recently and thought it was me....
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:02
ignore that fat tw4t,

On what basis am I 'fat'?  Just curious - it's a new insult for you.  You must have seen a fat person recently and thought it was me....

saw a pic of your in khares pics, you got a tubby belly by look of it... need to loose that, or calm down on your diet shave a zilisecond of ya lap times and beat hurdys 350hp monster, its downhill from now for you so take this as a early warning  :kiss:

now please fark of my thread and revert to PM if you wanna carry this one on

Ta
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 21:13
You sure you're not mistaking me for DannyP?  :huh:

Thanks for the early warning.

Here's one for you.  Keep on hanging about in nightclubs and you'll wind up like Peter Stringfellow.

HTHs.

(http://www.diamondhell.com/loser.gif)
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:20
You sure you're not mistaking me for DannyP?  :huh:

Thanks for the early warning.

Here's one for you.  Keep on hanging about in nightclubs and you'll wind up like Peter Stringfellow.

HTHs.

(http://www.diamondhell.com/loser.gif)

is danny fat :), nah it was you

do you go to any shows? i wanna meet you

and if i end up with his bank balance id be happy  :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 21:25
Maybe Combe in July.  If you did show you'd need to be bringing a lid.  :grin:

Danny's a very good mate, but by his own admission he's put on a bit of weight lately.
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:29
a lid ? Hmmm okies lol

maybe we should meet for scones and a cup of tea.. have this out face to face and move on ? or we can just carry on like this pissing the rest of the forum off ? its up to you
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Post by: benvictors on 08 July 2010, 21:41
I used to find it funny that DH just follows you about the forum putting stupid little comments after anything you post, however its getting a little long in the tooth now, he's like your own, annoying, forum shadow  :laugh:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 21:44
a lid ? Hmmm okies lol

You'd show up as much as your buddie would race Nick at Pod.
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Post by: funkyfive on 08 July 2010, 21:46
Liking the Rims Kells. Have you had a little extra smoke on the rear clusters? Thinking of getting mine tinted to get some extra badness
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:49
a lid ? Hmmm okies lol

You'd show up as much as your buddie would race Nick at Pod.

my buddie is not gonna show up at the pod to race a old mk 2 8v (not having a dig before anyone starts), he aint even into all that sh!te, but if horney was at the lights (or any other mk 2 gti) he would put the foot down and smoke him, unless said mk 2 had some modifield modern converted engine swap

hell, even i couldnt be arse to make that huge trip!

if you wanted to meet up, y'know what, i would do my best to meet you if we were to sort things out face to face..






@funkyfive, cheers dude, and yeah iv modified the rear lights a tad :)

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Post by: funkyfive on 08 July 2010, 21:54
You got to tell me did you tint them yourself?, they look smooth from the back and your car looks mean from the front. Feeling the love!!!
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 21:57
You got to tell me did you tint them yourself?, they look smooth from the back and your car looks mean from the front. Feeling the love!!!

thanks man :)

and yeah i did the rear lights myself matey
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 July 2010, 22:03
Wow I feel bad for posting the pics now Brad since your little follower has jumped on it!
Shame the front end of mine looks so stock :( Was a great day though  :cool:
I hope to see you soon Mr Stringfellow  :laugh:
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:05
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

glad you posted, love the pics :)

next time you lot are coming to the club.... stringfellow VIP stylee


 :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 22:15
if you wanted to meet up, y'know what, i would do my best to meet you if we were to sort things out face to face..

What is there to 'sort out'

I can't teach you reason and objectivity in one face to face meeting.

As the saying goes - you can't educate pork.

You're all hot air.

Now hurry up with the BAM conversion (scene victim) and build something worth talking about.
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:18
ok fair do, you dont wanna sort things out and move on, dont say i didnt offer  :sad:

BAM will be here in around 8 weeks, thats when the S3 comes off the road..
i am looking forward to it as the mk3 is crying out for it  :grin:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 July 2010, 22:32
ok fair do, you dont wanna sort things out and move on, dont say i didnt offer  :sad:

Don't dismiss it like that, you poor wounded soldier.

I have no idea what 'sort out' means 'on the street'.

Man-up and come to Combe.

It'll cost me a helluva lot more than you.
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:35
ok fair do, you dont wanna sort things out and move on, dont say i didnt offer  :sad:

Don't dismiss it like that, you poor wounded soldier.

I have no idea what 'sort out' means 'on the street'.

Man-up and come to Combe.

It'll cost me a helluva lot more than you.


when is combe then, whats the deal with it ? are you doing the track thing then i take it ?
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Post by: Horney on 08 July 2010, 22:40
but if horney was at the lights (or any other mk 2 gti) he would put the foot down and smoke him, unless said mk 2 had some modifield modern converted engine swap

I'm not gonna spam your thread loads etc but I just felt the need to point out that the age of engine has nothing to do with performance. Old engines can modified to produce big big power as well as modern engines. It just involves less messing about with laptops and more messing about with powertools. The fastest street legal car in the world runs a Chevy V8 which dates from the 1950's.

Modern engines are great, especially FI ones as they are easy to wind the boost up and get good numbers. Old engines are good as well and one thing which they have going for them for the home modifier is they are much simpler to maintain and fault diagnose. Horses for courses and all that.

nick
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:42
nope, i totally agree,  thats a valid and fair point, my quote was just a random one, nothing in it and not aimed at anyone..
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Post by: Horney on 08 July 2010, 22:45
fair does. :cool: Just felt the need to stick up for us that soldier on with our stone age fuel injection systems and single figure valves :grin:

nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:50
fair does. :cool: Just felt the need to stick up for us that soldier on with our stone age fuel injection systems and single figure valves :grin:

nick

LOL at the single fig valves part

 :cool:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 July 2010, 22:51
Nick has hit the nail on the head... Good lad :)

And Brad i look forward to it mate  :cool:
I'll make sure your BAM is in first before i come up!
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Post by: kells on 08 July 2010, 22:53
Nick has hit the nail on the head... Good lad :)

And Brad i look forward to it mate  :cool:
I'll make sure your BAM is in first before i come up!

too right matey, had a drive of the doner car yesterday, pulls well, but crying out for a remap  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 08 July 2010, 23:02
when is combe then, whats the deal with it ? are you doing the track thing then i take it ?

Sat 24th July @ Castle Combe race circuit. It's a VW Driver Magazine trackday + Show. Passengers are £10 I think and you need a crash helmet (Motorbike ones are fine or you can hire one from the circuit). It's a fair old trek from your manor but if you do come down your welcome to a pax lap in the white heap.

Nick
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Post by: kells on 09 July 2010, 08:35
Ah cheers that's a really nice offer. I will certainly look into it even just for a nice long trip out  :grin:

Maybe convince the other half to come along, it all depends on what work I have on that weekend and how far from me it actually is

Cheers for that kind offer their Nick  :cool:
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Post by: kells on 09 July 2010, 08:51
220 miles each way Hmm :) Had a look on goolge earth on my phone  :evil:
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Post by: dom on 09 July 2010, 22:09
Loving the pics... that red Mk4 looks phat  :cool:  :tongue:

(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab223/jonnypolish/SNV31011.jpg)
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Post by: kells on 09 July 2010, 23:54
Red mk 4 has had almost 30k spent on it.it's 400bhp and is for sale at 8k I think.
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Post by: jonnypolish on 10 July 2010, 19:31
It's only 8k?!? You could strip it and sell it for a fair sized profit..
Brad... Buy it for me and i'll give you the monies  :laugh:

McClaren SLR discs with Ferrari calipers ALL round... Utter hype!
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 November 2010, 19:46
May aswell bump htis thread with recent happenings
Had a run in with a sainsburys truck who decided to pull out on me saying he didn’t see me, this resulted in this:

(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4549/imagebm.jpg) (http://img295.imageshack.us/i/imagebm.jpg/)

Was rather pissed off at this, but it was either a rim getting damaged or the whole side of the car...

i thought the rim was beyond repair, until i was put on to a guy over in York who races Porsches, i gave the guy a call thinking he would just say what i expected (na the wheels a right off) but instead he was very positive..

Needless to say, i got the wheel to him the same day, He checked to see if it was buckled or cracked, and found it was not, and the damage was just cosmetic (he told me that’s the beauty with Porsche rims – very well built and one of the strongest out their – Bonus!)
 2 days later he called me to say the rim had been re-welded and was perfect!!!  (Minus paint)

Which led me onto my next issue, the paint!, this was a one off mix,  the guys at my refurb place said they could just paint the outer rim on the damaged rim, but I was not happy with that idea in case the match was not perfect..

So.... I had all the wheels refurbished again in the same shade, with a little bit more flip to them this time, they came back looking  fooking amazing, here is a shot of the damaged rim fully repaired
 (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8017/imagehzb.jpg) (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/imagehzb.jpg/)
I had already sourced a replacement rim (not a easy task with it been a well sought after 8j) thinking the damaged wheel  was going to be only good as a ornament, so I now have 5 rims all painted up, so I’ve got a spare stashed away..  Also got a paint code now so if anything like this happens (god forbid) again I won’t have to have all the wheels painted due to worrying about getting a match on the colour

Here is the car on the newly finished rims, (all my recent pics are actually of it on these as this all happened a few month back now)
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5874/gtixo.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/gtixo.jpg/)
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6448/sv202751.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/sv202751.jpg/)

Other small additions included me carbon wrapping my rear VW badge and a spare rear spoiler (which I didn’t like on my car so never fitted it in the end)

Here is the badge tho, I like it and it looks really good on the car seen as iv got carbon lettering on the number plates
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6760/badgez.jpg) (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/badgez.jpg/)

That’s it for now, the car will be coming off the road around January time for engine work and other stuff.. so its all change for 2011.....

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Post by: jeremybarker on 08 November 2010, 19:54
Your car is a reason for me wanting a MK3 at some point.

One of the nicest MK3's with those wheels and colour combo  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 November 2010, 20:05
ahh cheers mate, appreciate the comment  :cool:
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Post by: dom on 08 November 2010, 20:06
Looks good as ever Kells :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 08 November 2010, 20:32
Cheers dude, a few tricks to come in the new year, sooner rather than later i hope  :lipsrsealed: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 08 November 2010, 21:01
Cheers dude, a few tricks to come in the new year, sooner rather than later i hope  :lipsrsealed: :cool:

Still going BAM?  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 November 2010, 21:18
Yep.. donor car is almost mine...  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 08 November 2010, 21:23
Yep.. donor car is almost mine...  :laugh:

 :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Jimp on 08 November 2010, 23:12
Good to hear the wheels (and everything else  :grin:) are ok. Looks awesome as usual  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 09 November 2010, 09:04
nice one jimp matey, the most important thing was my GF, she was in the car when the incident happened, and to say she was scared is a understatement, to make matters worse, the Sainsbury’s truck was parked on double yellow lines, then just decided to pull out with no indication what so ever   :rolleyes:

His excuse for been on the yellow lines - His bosses say he is not allowed to park in front of the shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   (its one of these small Sainsbury’s stores that have taken over a local store, not sure if you guys have them. this one is on a very busy main road near a hospital, even with him parked how he was, ambulances would have had trouble getting by

Here is a shot of the truck, and the central reservation which i only just caught with the wheel.. (mk 3 breaks are dam good  :grin:)


(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7148/photouu.jpg) (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/photouu.jpg/)
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Post by: lemski on 09 November 2010, 12:41
Its always someone elses fault. Just red this, nice mk3. Sorry to hear bout the incedent bud
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 November 2010, 12:48
Cheers fella, all back to normal now so no drama, just one of them things  :cool:
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Post by: dubsport on 09 November 2010, 17:01
looks facking sweet bruh! :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Ninja on 10 November 2010, 10:02
Kells,

I know you've heard this many times. But your car is one of the reasons for the move to MK3 from MK2.

Sweet ride. (Mine's nicer  :tongue:)
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Post by: robz on 10 November 2010, 11:00
give him a bigger head... lol
although he knows what i think also ;)
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Post by: lewis1641 on 10 November 2010, 11:34
wheel repair looks bang on.

car's not too shabby either!
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Post by: Len on 11 November 2010, 12:39
Ah but mines better than Brads!  :wink: :grin:


Glad to see this thread still here btw!  :wink:
And you hanging around!  :cool:
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Post by: T_J_G on 11 November 2010, 19:01
I like this car.
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Post by: tdi_blu on 11 November 2010, 20:06
One of my favs this  :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 November 2010, 16:39
Ah but mines better than Brads!

Empirically.

More doors, more whores.

More valves...... well it's obviously just better.  Unless it's 20valves, of course.
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 09:06
car is now in winter mode, standard GTI rims etc..

small new mod, new led modification iv done, these illuminate the gearstick/cubbyhole are really well without distracting you in the night, similar to what you find in the new BMW's

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9551/photoovc.jpg) (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/photoovc.jpg/)

wont be around much to answer to this post, so please dont think im been ignorant

 :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 16 December 2010, 09:40
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet
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Post by: robz on 16 December 2010, 10:14
Ya got pics if the cubbyhole bit?
Good idea though mate!
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Post by: Dec on 16 December 2010, 11:07
Oi ! BMW's and Audi's too :grin: :tongue:

Looks sweet mate!
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 11:53
i had this in the m3 and the 530D my mate just got, looks really cool, epecially at nite, but its wired to the ignition so its on all the time  :cool:

be a bit hard to get a pic of the way it illuminates the cubbyhole area, but it just shines a very subtle light down that area without scattering the beam, i has to place the leds a certain way to do this,did a blue illuminated one also but much too bright for my likes
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 12:16
Not sure if i already posted this up, but modified my rear badge too

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6760/badgez.jpg) (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/badgez.jpg/)
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 December 2010, 12:23
Oi ! BMW's and Audi's too :grin: :tongue:

Looks sweet mate!
and later VWs and Mazda and.......

Good job though... how did you do the badge then?

Shaun
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 12:54
i dunno what other cars have them, the audis iv been n dont nor does the mazdas (2 x RX8's) but i just saw it in the bmw and liked the idea  :wink:

the badge was done using carbon wrap and my GF's hair dryer, i first removed it from the backing rubber which is glued via the pins on the rear, i then re glued this part after


also did a spare rear spoiler but thats not gonna see my car
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 December 2010, 13:34
i dunno what other cars have them, the audis iv been n dont nor does the mazdas (2 x RX8's) but i just saw it in the bmw and liked the idea  :wink:

the badge was done using carbon wrap and my GF's hair dryer, i first removed it from the backing rubber which is glued via the pins on the rear, i then re glued this part after


also did a spare rear spoiler but thats not gonna see my car
  First time I clocked it was in a dub, I had a mk5 golf with 2 red led's, My Mazda 6 has them in blue but they are a subtle blue
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 15:06
i tried blue but way too bright for what i wanted, and it was a distraction too, the subtle blue u have sounds cool

im off for test drive in a mk 6 GTI this week so ill see if that has them  :cool:  they are handy i must admit
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 December 2010, 15:30
i tried blue but way too bright for what i wanted, and it was a distraction too, the subtle blue u have sounds cool

im off for test drive in a mk 6 GTI this week so ill see if that has them  :cool:  they are handy i must admit

Yeah the blue works in the MAZ, funny though as all the instruments are the same colour as BM, amber, but there is one blue multi function oval light in the middle of the stereo and then the blue ambient lighting like yours....

MK6 has them.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 16 December 2010, 15:53
small new mod, new led modification iv done, these illuminate the gearstick/cubbyhole are really well without distracting you in the night, similar to what you find in the new BMW's

And tractors since about year 2000.  I think that's a more appropriate comparison to draw.

Although the tractors are far more sophisticated than this old barge.

wont be around much to answer to this post, so please dont think im been ignorant

QED.  Answers not required.
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Post by: Jimp on 16 December 2010, 15:58
Nice one on the interior lights. Reminds me of the W8 light mod on mk4s. The same lights are in my mk5 as standard, same shade of red too. They look so cool  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 December 2010, 16:13
Yeah they look cool at nite, really good little mod this, i didnt realise the mk 5 had them, nice touch  :cool:

As for a tractor been more sophisticated, id say one of those could be much more sophisticated than most cars on the road... 
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 16 December 2010, 16:20
small new mod, new led modification iv done, these illuminate the gearstick/cubbyhole are really well without distracting you in the night, similar to what you find in the new BMW's

And tractors since about year 2000.  I think that's a more appropriate comparison to draw.

Although the tractors are far more sophisticated than this old barge.

wont be around much to answer to this post, so please dont think im been ignorant

QED.  Answers not required.

(http://www.techimo.com/forum/attachments/suggestion-box/14393d1117651123-pokey-stick-smiley-poke.gif)  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 20:54

Had a slight issue the other night with the rear brakes..

hit a bump in the road at 40mph and the rear brakes locked up, handbrake was jammed on, drivers side rear disc was glowing orange like a Le Mans 24HR car  :laugh:, and the amount of smoke that was coming off it i thought the car was gonna set up in flames

Second mare of the night was the car not fitting on the tow truck greenflag sent, which was annoying because they told me the name of the garage who were going to recover me, and i know only one of their trucks fits my car on due to how low it is.. Anyhow long story short they came in a regular tow truck, i couldn’t be arsed to f**k about so I removed the lower splitter and all was good  :cool:

Myself and Ben (Ben victors off here) inspected the car the morning after to find this on the rear passenger side

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7881/imageozv.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/imageozv.jpg/)

Spot the problem....

(for those less blessed amongst us the calliper should sit at around the 1 o clock position)


Also the sh!t guard that sits on the hub was like this

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9066/imagexj.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/i/imagexj.jpg/)


The reason???  Well the bolts which hold the calliper on the hub were gone!!!!  No damage, no fecked threrads, just complete gone as tho they had been removed; now i know these were super tight as i hammered them on a few month back...They are the 2 Allen key bolts.


I also had a overheated problem due to a frozen RAD on the night we had a -12 temp... this was the nail in the coffin for my already leaking radiator....cracked...big time


So we  fitted a new one, no pics of the new on but here is the car in prep for removal of old unit, we managed to remove/replace with the slam panel in situ which was a bonus, refilled the system with 50/50 mix of VW G12 Plus, and fitted a new heater resistor..

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1442/imagemphk.jpg) (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/imagemphk.jpg/)



car heater/coolant system runs like a charm as do the breaks, we were lucky enough not to have warped a disc, one of the pads was destroyed so we changed those out for a new set


Last thing done was wiring in my puddle lights in my doors, we did Bens car too, this is a cool mod

trip to the car grave yard to find a MK4...


(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3436/imagetzp.jpg) (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/imagetzp.jpg/)


and here they are, these are lit, bright so hard to get a decent pic but you get the idea, basically just like on a mk4 gti

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6885/imageqg.jpg) (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/imageqg.jpg/)





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Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 20:56
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.
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Post by: Bellend on 30 December 2010, 20:58
As Wayne said.

I absolutely f**king hate Loctite but this is why I force myself to use it.

Can't really think why else it would have happened. :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 20:58
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.


yeah i got locktite on those plue the carrier bolts
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Post by: Bellend on 30 December 2010, 21:01
Very strange.  :huh:

It's impossible to get to them without removing the car/jacking them up really, isn't it?  :undecided:

Lucky though!

How comes it froze? Topping it up with water?

Good results all roundish I guess.  :grin:
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Post by: Wayne on 30 December 2010, 21:03
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.


yeah i got locktite on those plue the carrier bolts

Very odd then.
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Post by: Bellend on 30 December 2010, 21:05
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.


yeah i got locktite on those plue the carrier bolts

That is the carrier that's moved tho?  :huh:
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 21:06
You shouldn't need loctite on the carrier bolts, they are tight.
The caliper bolts need loctite.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 21:10
we were bloody shocked TBH


Re the Rad, my bad really, i had developed a leak, and was topping up on water till i got round to fitting the new Rad, guess too much water in the system, the one night of -12 did the obvious


all good results in the end tho, car is now running to perfection once again, its also had a service with genuine VW parts, oild etc... all good at the mo

tomo ill be giving it a good clean..

also got this kit as one of my gifts at Xmas... cant wait to use it, gonna go on a quick course before i use it tho, just so i can learn the right way..

http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-3/dodo-juice-rotary-starter-polishing-kit/0/


@audi quattro, if thats the case why do the bolts you get with genuine pads have locktite on the threads when u buy em  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 21:13
Did you use loctite on the cailper bolts.


yeah i got locktite on those plue the carrier bolts

That is the carrier that's moved tho?  :huh:


Yeah the whole lot had moved, the bolts that are allen key ones which hold the carrier to the car were the ones missing, i also dab a lil sealent on the 2 13mm bolts that hold the caliper centre to the carrier.. if this makes sense
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Post by: Bellend on 30 December 2010, 21:15
I see what you were saying. Lucky though, sharp corner and not expecting it.  :lipsrsealed:

we were bloody shocked TBH


Re the Rad, my bad really, i had developed a leak, and was topping up on water till i got round to fitting the new Rad, guess too much water in the system, the one night of -12 did the obvious


all good results in the end tho, car is now running to perfection once again, its also had a service with genuine VW parts, oild etc... all good at the mo

tomo ill be giving it a good clean..

also got this kit as one of my gifts at Xmas... cant wait to use it, gonna go on a quick course before i use it tho, just so i can learn the right way..

http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-3/dodo-juice-rotary-starter-polishing-kit/0/


@audi quattro, if thats the case why do the bolts you get with genuine pads have locktite on the threads when u buy em  :wink:

Yeah mate, they are the calliper bolts, which need loctite.

The carrier bolts don't apparently which when thinking  about it most don't.....
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 21:18
i know the bar stewards were tight as a nuns ass hole

the caliper made a nice grinding mark on the inner wheel, thank got i have the winter rims on and not my porkers
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 21:42
we were bloody shocked TBH


Re the Rad, my bad really, i had developed a leak, and was topping up on water till i got round to fitting the new Rad, guess too much water in the system, the one night of -12 did the obvious


all good results in the end tho, car is now running to perfection once again, its also had a service with genuine VW parts, oild etc... all good at the mo

tomo ill be giving it a good clean..

also got this kit as one of my gifts at Xmas... cant wait to use it, gonna go on a quick course before i use it tho, just so i can learn the right way..

http://www.monzacarcare.com/machine-polishing-3/dodo-juice-rotary-starter-polishing-kit/0/


@audi quattro, if thats the case why do the bolts you get with genuine pads have locktite on the threads when u buy em  :wink:

As Bellend just said, the caliper bolts need loctite, they are only about 20lb ft.
The carrier bolts(allen heads) are 60ft lb(i might be wrong), but they are tight and don't need loctite.
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 December 2010, 21:48
Correction the carrier bolts are 65nm or about 48lb ft, if tightened with a torque wrench, they shouldn't come loose!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 December 2010, 21:51
ahh i see, yeah mate thats what i meant, a bit of confusion their, it was the 2 Allen head bolts which were gone (the ones that dont have locktite as standard)

they very extreeeeeeemly tight around 3 month ago, as i hammered the allen key - to nthe point i was worried id not get them off again  :grin:, i could no way get my torque wrench in that tight area
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 31 December 2010, 09:50
So you over-tightened the bolts and stretched the threads, which is why they came loose.

I've had a rear caliper carrier bolt come loose on a test run in my Golf before - makes an almighty racket when it comes loose - every time you let off it goes 'clonk' into the wheel.  You must have had some bangin' choons on in your car not to notice it happening.

As for progressively thinning your coolant down to water through winter oop norf.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 December 2010, 13:36
the threads on the caliper are fine, not strectched, so i dunno if the bolts threads could have been, im no expert, guess it could be possible, but they were treated to a (small) dab of locktite.. just glad it didnt cause no more damage, and very lucky the disc didnt warp either.

the rad, yeah plain bonkers really, although it was topped up before the massive freeze we had, still not a good thing to do granted, should have swapped out the rad for the new one sooner..
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 January 2011, 23:01
Gonna bump this back up to the top, the next job now going to be dedicated to the engine swap, which should be taking place the back end of Feb/march
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Post by: Dec on 10 January 2011, 13:35
Siiiiiick :cool: :cool:
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 10 January 2011, 13:37
Gonna bump this back up to the top, the next job now going to be dedicated to the engine swap, which should be taking place the back end of Feb/march

Did you manage to decide what engine was goin in then!  :grin: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 January 2011, 17:37
looks like the S3 lump mate (BAM) already got some bits for the conversion, wanna get it off the road before the MOT is due (MAY) and done, coz i wanna fit a new steering rack at the same time as when the engine is out as i have some play and a slight leak in the one thats on the car now, so that could be a MOT fail anyhow.
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Post by: jonnypolish on 10 January 2011, 17:45
<3
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Post by: Jimp on 10 January 2011, 19:50
Best of luck with the conversion man  :cool:
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Post by: Sam on 10 January 2011, 20:03
Gonna be pretty phat when this conversion is done kells  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 January 2011, 20:39
Gonna be pretty phat when this conversion is done kells  :smiley:


thanks alot for that pal  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: Mikester on 10 January 2011, 20:55
Gonna be pretty phat when this conversion is done kells  :smiley:


thanks alot for that pal  :wink: :cool:

Not wrong, he has been talking about it for long enough. ha
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 January 2011, 21:03
i have mate, but you should know me, do it once do it to perfection  :laugh:

jokes aside, its difficult to take this car out of use as i use it A LOT and for all my DJ work etc, conversion has to be done quickly, MOT is up in may so thats the latest the car will be off the road (coz it need the new rack to pass anyhow), then it needs to be back on the road ASAP on a urgent basis.

Remap and ill just enjoy it (wanting the factory ECU and loom set up)

Only other mod id like is some porker front breaks, im happy with rest of car and i want to retain its original 1990's looks as much as i can on the basis - less is more  :cool:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 11 January 2011, 10:39
i have mate, but you should know me, do it once do it to perfection  :laugh:

jokes aside, its difficult to take this car out of use as i use it A LOT and for all my DJ work etc, conversion has to be done quickly, MOT is up in may so thats the latest the car will be off the road (coz it need the new rack to pass anyhow), then it needs to be back on the road ASAP on a urgent basis.

Remap and ill just enjoy it (wanting the factory ECU and loom set up)

Only other mod id like is some porker front breaks, im happy with rest of car and i want to retain its original 1990's looks as much as i can on the basis - less is more  :cool:

Good luck with the conversion... Do have to carry much gear around?... Cant you get yourself a heap to bomb about in while the golf is off the road?
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:05
dont carry hardly owt around mate just my tunes and Mac, but yeah thats a option i had thought of, just dont want an excuse to leave the car off the road for too long,  :smiley:
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Post by: Mikester on 11 January 2011, 19:07
dont carry hardly owt around mate just my tunes and Mac, but yeah thats a option i had thought of, just dont want an excuse to leave the car off the road for too long,  :smiley:

Be an idea though as its never going to go smoothly and quickly lets be honest.
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:09
i know mate, i hear you on that...maybe get another Mk3 gti so i can break it for parts after....   :undecided:
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Post by: Mikester on 11 January 2011, 19:12
i know mate, i hear you on that...maybe get another Mk3 gti so i can break it for parts after....   :undecided:

Not a bad idea to be fair. Loads about dirt cheap.
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Post by: Dmonday on 11 January 2011, 19:21
i picked up a 1.4 for £400 to get me to work and i've managed to make more back on that selling the coilovers and stuff off it ;) means you don't have to rush the conversion that way, first time round i rushed my VR conversion and things was tie-wrapped all over :D good luck with the conversion!

Dan
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:23
Good going Dan

and cheers buddie. going for a OEM look in the Bay too, really looking forward to this conversion as the car is crying out for propper lump
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Post by: dom on 11 January 2011, 19:39
Good going Dan

and cheers buddie. going for a OEM look in the Bay too, really looking forward to this conversion as the car is crying out for propper lump

I'll look forward to seeing the bay when your finished with it then! Yours is pretty immaculate at the moment!  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 January 2011, 19:44
Thanks man, new one will be treated to the same love  :laugh:

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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 12:04
2.0T FSI conversion is back on the table and in my options list again, really keen on this engine and after speaking the Ben at  Qpeng iv found out they are releasing the kit in the next month or so to "plug and play"
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Post by: Horney on 12 January 2011, 12:15
Will this one include knock sensor use? I've always liked the idea of the qpeng for the 20vt conversions bu tthe lack of knock detection has always struck me as major weakness of their looms.

nick
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Post by: Wayne on 12 January 2011, 12:29
2.0T FSI conversion is back on the table and in my options list again, really keen on this engine and after speaking the Ben at  Qpeng iv found out they are releasing the kit in the next month or so to "plug and play"

Interesting, am I right in thinking you still need to raise fuel pressure etc.


Will this one include knock sensor use? I've always liked the idea of the qpeng for the 20vt conversions bu tthe lack of knock detection has always struck me as major weakness of their looms.

You share my view on qpang, no knock sensor is poor
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 14:00
Guys these are all questions iv asked, im awaiting a response
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 14:58
I just got a reply, get the idea he didnt want to say much and the only thing he confirmed was that i could use my original dash and clocks etc, its it will be 100 % plug and play
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Post by: Horney on 12 January 2011, 15:04
Hummm sounds interesting. Will have to see how this develops. Could be tempted to FSI the MKII in a couple of years.

Nick
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Post by: danny_p on 12 January 2011, 15:10
you need a copy of elsa and wireing tools.  then just have it the ecu cracked.   the pl with skills managed to get past the immob some time ago 
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 15:51
yeah i already know this, i dont have the skills and those that do are wanting silly money, thats the problem..

i like the FSI lump tho, very tempting to go for it even tho i really want factory management
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 January 2011, 16:48
my friend with the S3 came to see me this morning, says he is breaking the car in around a month. struck a deal on the engine, Gearbox, ECU, Clocks, Full looms, Front Breaks and anything else i need for the conversion all for 450 quid!  im well happy with that, its a 2001 bam engine with full audi history and 80k on the clock

just playing the waiting game now :cool:

jokes aside, its difficult to take this car out of use as i use it A LOT and for all my DJ work etc, conversion has to be done quickly, MOT is up in may so thats the latest the car will be off the road (coz it need the new rack to pass anyhow), then it needs to be back on the road ASAP on a urgent basis.

Well there's a year between the 2010 'expected date' and the new 2011 'expected date' so I guess we can expect a new mid-2012 'expected date' next January or thereabouts because you clearly neither have the balls, facilities, cash or any idea of how to complete either a 1.8T or 2.0TSI conversion.  You are all mouth and no trousers, or prove me wrong by completing the conversion.

You will now tell me I'm a farmer, who's arrogant, full of sh*t and go on about how your'e going to do this without actually taking any action whatsoever.  Are you afraid you'll chip the paint on your tugboat, or maybe damage and indicator repeater?

I also predict the posts outlining the above will appear to have been constructed by someone with a sub-normal grasp of the English language.

Porsche brakes my f*cking ar$e.
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Post by: F17BAD on 12 January 2011, 18:30
Hows F uk off sound to you ?
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 January 2011, 22:10
Sounds like someone who's right out of excuses for doing nothing about the engine conversion they've been talking about for what, nearly two years?  :grin:
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Post by: Jimp on 12 January 2011, 23:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc
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Post by: Dmonday on 12 January 2011, 23:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc

:D think that will make them want to kill each other even more then they already do!

Dan
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 09:11
LOL
He obviously isnt as good at reading as he makes out, the point i made about hard taking the car off the road was not said for no reason. Iv never been in no rush, i didnt know it was a race ?


Anyhow, he will see, as will others.
Myself and Ben "Jammin" Victors are doing the conversion and iv already got some bits... 

And the car will not get treated to nasty damage and paint defects like your conversions do, and no ECU's will be fried.. yes i can solder  :kiss:


So yeah, just wait and see thomas,

In the meantime:

DONT HATE - PARTICIPATE :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 January 2011, 09:38
DONT BULLSH*T, DO SOMETHING.

A race would involve you doing something more than making a lot of noise, something you've proven is about your only skill.

We'll all await you removing chips from ECUs and replacing them to show off your mad skilz.

And the car will not get treated to nasty damage and paint defects like your conversions do

Yeah, maybe you'll do some of the work yourself, unlike others.  :grin:

I'm sure no professional outfit has ever chipped paint or broken a clip on a +15 year old indicator repeater.  How that can be replaced, I'll never know.

Easy to take a holier than thou stance when you've done the square root of f*ck all, isn't it?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 09:59
Iv never had my car damaged any place, not even at quick fit LOL :grin:

Damage like that is done by some fool that takes little pride in the work they are doing, hence why id never let a goon like you any place close to my property.

And to be arrogant to certain people’s family members is just plain rude, u may have half this forum hanging out the back of you but its not very professional for a middle aged man to promote pointless crap about a certain member publicly..

and as for soldering surface mount stuff, LOL I have no problems doing that.

Anyhow, this thread is not about that or you/your pathetic ways, But you are correct its taken a while for me to get to this stage, so have a little gold star. But in all honesty i was thinking of getting a new car last year and that’s why my plans were put on hold, not that you should be worrying about what I do or anything. Not all of us publicly announce every part of our life on a forum.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tdi_blu on 13 January 2011, 10:10
Its clear to see as pointed out youve been talking and thinking about the conversion for some time.As youve mentioned their is no race to do it and of course funding is needed to carry out the work but from looking at your car and the work mods you have done youve never rushed and thats why the car is the standard it is why its such a nice motor.Best thing to do is when you can just crack on with it mate and get posting and prove people wrong either way good luck with it  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: robz on 13 January 2011, 10:36
glad your back on it kells!!
also glad ya didnt sell you crazy fool :D
no rush in perfection eh ;)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 10:47
Cheers guys, much appreciated  :cool:

i doubt id have sold it tbh, its been too much of a good car, i had the crazy idea of getting a ED30 / new S3 /Focus RS, which would have meant finance and thats something im not into also servicing costs etc, its not like you can rip those sorts of cars to bits on your drive is it, well not if you wanna keep the warranty and service book intact bla bla

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: lewis1641 on 13 January 2011, 11:09
Good luck with the conversion dude. 
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 11:14
thanks man  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 13 January 2011, 11:19
Good luck with it  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 11:22
cheers wayne, looking forward to it and i know Ben is itching to crack on with it too
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: robz on 13 January 2011, 11:32
yeah, ya cant sell that car, not creeping up your arse but it is one of the best ive seen!
plus i reckon you'd get bored of all those other cars!
will be brill with the 2.0 in!
are ya gonna kepp it oem look too? would look sweet!!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 11:49
ahh cheers  rob matey

still might go for the Bam yet, im on the fence with the 2, im thinking seen as its a hom made thing the 1.8t bam may be more straight forward (if i decide oem lool /ecu) if i go the qpeng way ill want the 2.0t i think

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: sharki786 on 13 January 2011, 11:53
its your car mate and take as long as you want. no1 is chipping in for you so you have all the right to take the p or do it qwuick. but like i say take your time and do it properly!!! and good luck with the build love to see it.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 13 January 2011, 11:57
Whats the deal with managing the injection on the fsi's then, can any old aftermarket ecu be used? I think the non turbo could be the 16v engine to go for in the future, ally block, decent head design etc
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 13 January 2011, 12:16
Can't wait to see this. f**k what DH says. Yeah I wanna see it get done but I know its difficult taking a car off the road and as I've always said I appreciate the effort and result of your work. The car llooks amazing in the flesh although I've only seen it from the car. Credit where its due, it looks perfectly put together as if it just rolled out of the factory. That's what its all about in my eyes. :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 January 2011, 14:05
Can't wait to see this.

Nor can I.

But we're going to have to, maybe forever.  :grin:

When someone's family member has a little dog snapping at your kids, trying to attack them it's not really arrogance wanting them to f*ck off as soon as possible, is it now?

Especially not when they've wasted hours of your time and taken the p*ss.

At least I've met said child, don't believe you have - your opinions might change meeting him in the flesh.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 14:23
cheers for the replys guys and goons (DH)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 13 January 2011, 16:51
So when is the engine going in? End of Feb?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 18:41
the car has to be off the road latest may, so i have till then to get all my bits, we have had a chat and decided the best route is gonna be 20 VT, i want factory management not qpeng, and this is main reason for going 20vt.

I have sopke to a guy from CGTI who makes up looms, he can do my loom as a plug and play using the factory ECU etc, although Ben (benvictors off here) is keen to just do this ourselves

Feel free to come give a hand pal, its deffo happening regardless of what certain forum members think  :rolleyes:

I have my mate with the S3 (who im not sure how reliable he is as he has let me down once) says i can have all the full running gear, if not im looking for a BAM or even a AGU, but i really want a £££££Bam with a Derv box

im exited and worried all at once but im sure it will come good
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 January 2011, 18:47
I have my mate with the S3 (who im not sure how reliable he is as he has let me down once)

Prepping for a FAIL already I see.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 18:50
ill tell it how it is, already looking elsewhere yeah, either way, its happening. sorry !
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Toby on 13 January 2011, 19:33
hopefully, looking forard to this  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 January 2011, 21:53
the car has to be off the road latest may, so i have till then to get all my bits, we have had a chat and decided the best route is gonna be 20 VT, i want factory management not qpeng, and this is main reason for going 20vt.

I have sopke to a guy from CGTI who makes up looms, he can do my loom as a plug and play using the factory ECU etc, although Ben (benvictors off here) is keen to just do this ourselves
Feel free to come give a hand pal, its deffo happening regardless of what certain forum members think  :rolleyes:

I have my mate with the S3 (who im not sure how reliable he is as he has let me down once) says i can have all the full running gear, if not im looking for a BAM or even a AGU, but i really want a £££££Bam with a Derv box

im exited and worried all at once but im sure it will come good

we're doing it, end of!!! ha ha ha  :grin:
Im well excited about gettin stuck into this mate, you will feel alot better driving round in it knowing we did everything  :smug:

And make sure you are kettle trained by the time we come to do it, Dont make me come on here and bad mouth you  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 21:56
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

hahahahaha


good call mate im all over it, mite even treat you to a pot noodle :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 January 2011, 22:02
:grin: :grin: :grin:

hahahahaha


good call mate im all over it, mite even treat you to a pot noodle :laugh:

Whooaa, dont be spoiling me bruv  :shocked:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: robz on 13 January 2011, 22:05
:D
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tech1889 on 13 January 2011, 22:11
I wouldnt put a big search in for a BAM 20VT as they are rare and because of this they are really really expensive... me personally i would get a AGU block and then either a BAM head or a AGU polished and ported head.. If you put a BAM head on a AGU there is no difference just will save a fortune..

AGU is a safe option all round.. fit the k03s or k04 turbo easy.. you have no VVT to worry about.. you have a lot less sensors than the AUM which are prone to go wrong which means less wiring.. and the AGU is a strong engine and i think the early ones had a larger ported head compared to the AUM not 100% on this though..

Sorry if you've spoke about this before i just didnt want to read all 60 odd pages  :smiley:

Also a good choice on engine there bud  :wink:

Dan
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 January 2011, 22:32
cheers matey, and yeah iv had alot of folk telling me to go that same route you mention

if im honest, im looking to get to 250hp max really, one of my better mates owns a turbo company, he says he can do me a hybrid set up for whatever i get, im not sure what sort of power id end up with on a AGU with hybrid ??
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Adam on 13 January 2011, 23:50
cheers matey, and yeah iv had alot of folk telling me to go that same route you mention

if im honest, im looking to get to 250hp max really, one of my better mates owns a turbo company, he says he can do me a hybrid set up for whatever i get, im not sure what sort of power id end up with on a AGU with hybrid ??

AGU or TFSI on QPENG
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jonnypolish on 13 January 2011, 23:56
And make sure you are kettle trained by the time we come to do it, Dont make me come on here and bad mouth you  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Just make sure there's no willy dipping in the tea like Khare did to DH :D LOL!
I would be on making a trip from London to also lend a hand if Need be lads :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 09:43
cheers jonny matey  :cool:

Adam, do you think AGU ??

Really not sure i want Qpeng tbh
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 14 January 2011, 09:52
cheers jonny matey  :cool:

Adam, do you think AGU ??

Really not sure i want Qpeng tbh

Personally i'd avoid Qpeng, OEM management with knock sensor and diagnostic ftw  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 10:25
my thoughts exactly and then i can also rock the remap i really want which is Superchips
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2011, 10:30
my thoughts exactly and then i can also rock the remap i really want which is Superchips

Do they do an AGU hybrid turbo remap?  :undecided:  That sort of setup you ideally want setting up on a rolling road as each one varies slightly depending on the hardware used / installed
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 10:35
Was gonna say just had a look on there site and they don't seem to mention hybrid mapping, just £400 for a generic map which is pretty expensive. Even then it claims a gain of 37hp, taking the std engine to 187 which is pretty far off 250.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2011, 10:37
Was gonna say just had a look on there site and they don't seem to mention hybrid mapping, just £400 for a generic map which is pretty expensive. Even then it claims a gain of 37hp, taking the std engine to 187 which is pretty far off 250.

Don't forget that's for the STANDARD AGU with the little KO3 turbo  :wink:  Most you'll ever see out of that with all the upgrades is 195bhp

For over 200bhp on an AGU you need KO3s, hybrid, KO4, GT28 etc etc
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 10:39
Oh yeh I know, but what im saying is that there is no mention of hybrid mapping as you said. Just mapping of a std engine
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 11:33
Not sure about the mapping side of it, but the only ones i like / have exp of are superchips and REVO so if i cant have superchips then its over to revo, Ill get well lane turbo centre to do it on the rollers, or their is a Revo / superchips dealer in Bradford and they have a rolling road too.
The last time i had my car chipped, well lane did it, they took the map off the car sent it to superchips, they did their thing and sent the new file back to well  lane, im not sure if this is the same with hybrid or not.
I really want the S3 lump APY or BAM, mite be cheaper to buy the whole car (seen them go for 3k) and take all the bits i need then sell the rest in bits to make some cash back
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 11:43
As far as Im aware hybrid mapping has to be done live then taken off, looked at, corrected and done again a few times to get it spot on cos all kinds of issues get thrown up.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 11:51
cheers for the heads up on this buddie, ill have to look into this :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 12:07
Caistor , iv spoke to my buddie who owns the turbo company, he said same re the mapping etc...   :wink:  he thinks i could see a extra 45 - 50 hp with the hybrid, what u think ?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2011, 12:10
There's a couple of hybrid KO3's running around and I think they're producing approx 250-270bhp depending on the other hardware mods - turbo back exhaust, FMIC etc etc

If you're doing this, then spend the money and do it all properly i.e with a spec and hardware that you're going to be happy with  :smiley:

No point putting on a piddly turbo if then in 12 months time you're craving more power
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 12:18
Caistor , iv spoke to my buddie who owns the turbo company, he said same re the mapping etc...   :wink:  he thinks i could see a extra 45 - 50 hp with the hybrid, what u think ?

No idea, have you even decided what size turbo you are gonna run and what boost presures? Are you determined to hit 250bhp? I would reccomend a set up like mine that has two maps, so you have say a 200bhp setting and a 250bhp setting thats changed by simply flicking a switch.

I think you need to re-arrange the prioritys of the engine swap to be honest. Decide what engine you want to run and dont change your mind or you will start to f**k things up. Then the hard part is custom on top. What turbo? what pressures? what intercooler? is that cooler too laggy or not cooling enough? what size injectors? what engine managment? will that suit both the turbo and engine? ect ect
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 12:27
sorry buddie i failed to mention this is based on the S3 apy / Bam engine and K04 turbo, this is the one im really wanting to use, he calculated his sh!t on this turbo, and says he would rather do the work on it before the engine is installed to save ripping it all apart again

other than this i wanna keep everything standard as possible, i hear the compression of this engine is all good as are the injectors for what i want,  ? ? ?

intercoole riv already got size is length =  65CM approx and width is around the 7CM mark
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Sam on 14 January 2011, 12:34
Ok so its just mapping that needs sorting really, you and your mate need to sit down really and write a list out. Write it as if you are modding the audi to run at 250bhp. Will make things much simpler to work out in your head and think things through. The main problem for me when even thinking about running bigger power ect is that there is no base point as the car wasnt a turbo to start with so almost everything is custom. Which is a bit annoying
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 12:43
I hear you matey 100%, he even said ill need to sit down with him, he is even happy to talk to the mapping people and give them all the calculations of the work he will have carried out on the turbo

I cant speak good enough words of this guy, offers a great service, even the Leeds VW dealership use him as the mk 5/6 TDI turbos are apparently pants!! (BKD engine codes)

cheers once again for your helpfull comments
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Adam on 14 January 2011, 12:48
I know what your saying about QPENG, mapping them is a pain. Hope Nick dosnt mind but this is what he sent me regarding the MBE 922.

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The 992 ecu cannot be live mapped or traced as its the base unit (cheap one) the 992 offers direct mapping and logging, which mean running dyno run the real time data outputs can be read from the ecu and a log stored a bit like vagcom. When changes are needed to be made we can open up the correct map and make exact changes at points linked with tps/rpm of MAP/rpm the changes are made to the map area and then set to the ecu direct without turning the engine off, it takes around 15 secs from opening map to the affects changing the engine output.  Its a long wind way of mapping standalone ecu compared to OMEX where it can real time tace and emulate the eprom which means live map changes in real time.

I have mk1 golf in with ko3s and qpeng for mapping this week ( I will put pics on forum and rtech facebook tomorrow)  The stock map qpeng sent is piss poor IMO, the lower and of the TPS scale is wrong which causes a nasty bog down as the lightly press the gas.  So the first step is get the car running right and then map for power.   QPEng will give you the option to run a map sensor and closed loop boost control via the ecu, which aint worth the extra money, you best bet is to get a good electric boost controller to gain better boost control.  Its take around 3 to 4 days of on and off mapping the get it 100% due to AIT and coolant temp offset map which need setting up and testing at all temps.

The qpeng will only run closed loop lambda on idel so its a good idea to get a wideband air/fuel ratio gauge fitted to your dash.

Unless they are pulling something better ECU wise for the TFSI plug and play I would avoid the 922.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 12:51
chhers Adam matey :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tech1889 on 14 January 2011, 12:55
Yer get the setup I mentioned put a k03s or a k03s hybrid and you will see 250 bhp.. I would use standard management it's easy and is more than good enough for what you want..

Qpeng is just fancy management lol.. Hybrid I would get custom map as generic hybrid maps are not the best from what I've read..
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 14 January 2011, 13:18
Qpeng is just fancy management lol

No, it's dumb-f*ck management which is only implemented by those too scared of the wiring involved in putting the OEM management into the transplanted car.

Basically any other after-market ECU and set up will be superior.

For the fantasy engine that's being bandied about you need to spend time on the rollers with a mapper, so it needs to be decided which ECU will be used at the point of choosing a mapper, as they all have their preferences, or just put OEM management on a tweaked motor and hope it can suck up the changes you make and accommodate it.

'sending off a map' to have it tweaked by a big name is just nonsense - they pour money into developing generic maps that run closer to key safety margins, using the standard motor and OEM ECU.  Mapping for anything away from OEM spec needs the car on the rollers, with the ability to change the map on the fly to suit the variables - this is all maths and figures, which is why Brad's struggling - he probably wants a 'seat of the pants' map that feels really exciting yet has no actual base in figures.

The spec to the mapper sounds like it'll be 'just turn it all up to 11'.  :grin:  So rock 'n' roll.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: lewis1641 on 14 January 2011, 14:00
this may be of interest to you.

my friend does remaps (generic and tweaked generic stuff, uses genius and kess ) but the bloke who does his programming is based in York and had a rolling road for custom maps. he is very experienced and i am sure he would do a great job on your car. pm me if you want his number
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 14:36
Lewis, wha tis his name ??

i had my swift GTI tuned in york and mapped, Alwyn kershaws it was called, bloody good place did wonders with my swift. Really knew their sh!t, itsd now been made into a car sales place and no tuning :cry:

Thomas, when they did the swift, they did use the rolling road loads to get the map right as non of the generic ones as you call them worked for my car, it was superchips that did it and it took them almost a full day to get it right. iv always used superchips and its never give me any hassle hence why id like to stick with a brand i trust ? is that such a issue ?

im no expert unlike you, im not really that bothered about been one either i just want a reliable 250 or HP as the car is a daily hack, not no track car etc
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 January 2011, 14:37
Yer get the setup I mentioned put a k03s or a k03s hybrid and you will see 250 bhp.. I would use standard management it's easy and is more than good enough for what you want..

Qpeng is just fancy management lol.. Hybrid I would get custom map as generic hybrid maps are not the best from what I've read..


yeah mate sound advice, cheers for that :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2011, 15:22
May aswell add this little clip in here too, i took this for dom, as he now has magnex on his MK3

pretty poitless really seen as this engine is coming out soon, but here it is, revved to 2.5k ish, Magnex Cat back with no centre box on a 8v lump (maybe a usefull video for potential owners of magnex/centre box removal people)

P.S you can also hear the induction noise from the K&N 57i, and also the common and annoying rattle on the front heatsheld plus seen as it was pissing it down, you can hear that too :grin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0WyBujWKmU
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 16 January 2011, 18:18
love your car mate, big fan of the porsche rims, :grin:
queston for you, how much did you pay for the pipe to replace the mid box? and where from, if you dont mind me asking.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2011, 18:50
Cheers dude

It was a couple of year ago now bvut i think it was around the £75 mark, it is infact 304 st/st and my mate who owns a powerflow dealer did the work.. the car runs alot better without the middle box

but keep in mind some powerflow dealers are very shoddy 
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 16 January 2011, 19:31
thought you were goin to say powerflow, and thats bout what i expected.
yea i've heard some are, theres one near where i work though and i know there good fortunately, used them before, so i'll go down there cheers mate
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 16 January 2011, 20:05
Thomas, when they did the swift, they did use the rolling road loads to get the map right as non of the generic ones as you call them worked for my car, it was superchips that did it and it took them almost a full day to get it right. iv always used superchips and its never give me any hassle hence why id like to stick with a brand i trust ? is that such a issue ?

im no expert unlike you, im not really that bothered about been one either i just want a reliable 250 or HP as the car is a daily hack, not no track car etc

It's not an issue of brand, it's finding a person who will work with whatever the ECU is to put a map together generated from the best parameters to deliver the right balance of power economy and reliability, arguably needed more on a 'daily hack' than a track car, as you can spend a LOT of time mapping the part-throttle areas of the map, to get them right.

Superchips dealers generally deliver remaps for standard engines, not custom-built maps.  When did you have the Swift mapped?  It's possible that today's Superchips is a lot different to the outfit that spent a day working up a custom map for your Swift.  Unless you know the person who's doing the mapping you're in danger of finding yourself sitting next to a bloke with a laptop who doesn't know his AFRs from his exhaust temps, but knows map A goes on engine code B, but is wearing a Superchips sweatshirt.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2011, 20:58
I hear you, 100%

the swift was done in 1995, and they did bend over backward to get it right.  You have a very valid point, basicaslly the company is so big these days churning out the standard maps - they cant be arsed with a small fry like what ill need  -  this is what you mean ? 

i think im gonna have to agree if thats the case.

I may have to visit R-Tech or the REVO dealer  which is local to me (have rolling road)

cheers for imput :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 16 January 2011, 21:35
My 2 pence's worth (which counts for nothing) but when it is all in and running go for a proper / custom remap.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 16 January 2011, 21:39
Yes Wayne mate, seems this is the way to go  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 17 January 2011, 17:23
Car has been totally Dodo Juiced, used my spin doctor, plus a load of other goodies i have and its looking MINT!!!  even tho its still in winter mode. PORSCHE rims are going back on end of February

check out the paint - all original 1993

(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6002/imageheb.jpg)

 :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 17 January 2011, 17:51
Pretty damn shiny Kells, I wish my paintwork was that good! :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 17 January 2011, 18:01
cheers matey, i have put a hell of a lot of time into it

Next up Bens red one, which is in need of some TLC, so ill make sure i get before and after shots of his (think yours is same colour)
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Post by: dom on 17 January 2011, 18:26
cheers matey, i have put a hell of a lot of time into it

Next up Bens red one, which is in need of some TLC, so ill make sure i get before and after shots of his (think yours is same colour)

Yeah do it! I'm pretty sure mines the same colour  :smiley:
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Post by: Dmonday on 17 January 2011, 18:30
Awesome, would love to have paint like that :afro:

Dan
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 17 January 2011, 18:33
Awesome, would love to have paint like that :afro:

Dan
Mine is was like that!.............. Good job, very shiny, but then isn't it always?
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Post by: F17BAD on 17 January 2011, 18:47
Hehe, yeah i keep it well at all times, washed at least once a week come rain or shine, i never let the dirt build up.

Iv spent hours on this car, got all the swirls out with my new dodo juice spin doctor, bloody awesome bit of kit but not for the kids LOL, can be dangerous in the wrong hannds :evil: and according to detailing world, Flat black is the hardest to work on, so im Very happy with my work

i really wish i had good pics of the day i bought this car - it looked fooked, unloved and ready to be broken...paint looked so bad i actually thought it was metalic black till i did my first polish on it hahaha.  it was originally only purchased as a daily drive and pool car for my Club events.. but the OCD took over  :kiss:

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Post by: Wayne on 17 January 2011, 20:42
Awesome work :afro:
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Post by: benvictors on 17 January 2011, 22:28
cheers matey, i have put a hell of a lot of time into it

Next up Bens red one, which is in need of some TLC, so ill make sure i get before and after shots of his (think yours is same colour)

WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!  :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :wink:
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Post by: robz on 18 January 2011, 09:34
jealous mate, my paint is awful!!
needs all the swirls getting out :(
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 09:53
Cheers :cool:

would pop a pick up of the whole car - but its still in winter mode with Standard GTI rims on it  :grin:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 January 2011, 11:01
Cheers :cool:

would pop a pick up of the whole car - but its still in winter mode with Standard GTI rims on it  :grin:

So?  If I thought like that there would be no pictures of my car on here whatsoever.
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 11:12
Well, its a bit of a common sight seeing a MK3 on standard rims, where as you are doing a build up thread which for me, is a lot different, your thread is like a lil flower waiting to blossom  :grin:

here you go then, Full dodo juiced up, and In wintermode on its standard rims, think ill put the Porsche rims back on late February - really missing them, arches look so gay with them been modified to accomodate the larger rim/adapters plus the handling is no way near as good on these Longbeach

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5558/imagegli.jpg)

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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 11:18
Here is a couple others i took at the same time

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/305/imageuq.jpg)

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3445/imagefcal.jpg)



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Post by: Wayne on 18 January 2011, 11:47
Looks ok on the longbeech alloys  :smiley:

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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 11:52
hehe cheers wayne, it would be better if it had spacers on (rear mostly) as the modifications we made to them (which look factory when iv got the Porsche rims on) make the standard rims look lost, the pictures kind of hide this, but yeah looks ok - just a lil ghay :grin:  not long to go now till i put the D90's back on and id rahter not risk any damage to those seen as i just spent a fortune getting them refurbed afther the incident with the sainsbury truck a few month back
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Post by: dom on 18 January 2011, 12:27

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5558/imagegli.jpg)



Wow! :shocked:

Depending on how Ben's turns out I may have to buy a dodojuice MP myself! (and learn how to use it of course :laugh:)
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 12:43
She has come out really well, im very pleased with it, look forward to getting my hands on that red paint of bens, will be using dodo products on his car too amongst other things.. he is gonna be a very lucky boy  :grin:  but he helps me all the time at the drop of a hat with parts of the car he was breaking so fair is fair and all that malarky :cool:


bring on the Red  :grin:
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 18 January 2011, 12:55
Joining the Longbeach crew for the winter then kells? I will probably stick my TT wheels on after I've resprayed (satin) the car, save getting them messy...you never know.  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 January 2011, 14:01
Joining the Longbeach crew for the winter then kells? I will probably stick my TT wheels on after I've resprayed (satin) the car, save getting them messy...you never know.  :grin:

Yes mate haha, iv had them on since end of November, was not prepaired to risk my precious (to me) D90's in all the snow we had, and im glad i made the decision as we have had some bad snow up these parts :cry:

And yeah mate, deffo dont put ya polished ones on till their is ZERO salt on the roads, make sure u keep them fully waxed up at all times too :cool:
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Post by: Rhyso on 19 January 2011, 10:05
Full correction detail is one of THE best things you can do for a car

Looks sweet  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 January 2011, 10:57
Full correction detail is one of THE best things you can do for a car

Looks sweet  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Cheers matey,
Agree 100%, really rewarding especially on such a old car (19 years old in august :shocked:)
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Post by: Rhyso on 19 January 2011, 11:02
Full correction detail is one of THE best things you can do for a car

Looks sweet  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Cheers matey,
Agree 100%, really rewarding especially on such a old car (19 years old in august :shocked:)

Certainly adds value to any car IMO  :smiley:

Had the MK4 and the Audi done and the transformation always staggers me; especially on the MK4 as it had never been done. 
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 January 2011, 12:07
yes for sure, Car gets A LOT of looks too  :cool:

iv just done a quick detail on a friends Audi - just like yours actually, they are a big car (sportback) take longer to do :laugh:
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Post by: Dec on 24 January 2011, 13:31
Mine needs detailing, but would probably benefit from a full respray :sad:
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Post by: Toby on 24 January 2011, 19:33
that looks soooo sexy!! i need me some!! i have a red mk4.. and i polished it at the weekend, but by the looks of it its worth the investment!!
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Post by: Mikester on 24 January 2011, 21:59
Lack of:

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/lowlifebronze/international008.jpg)
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Post by: Toby on 24 January 2011, 22:00
Lack of:

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/lowlifebronze/international008.jpg)

that is sweeeeeeeeet!

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Post by: F17BAD on 25 January 2011, 15:22
If thats the Mk3 i think it is, MJ did the seats in it, sweet ride

Cannot wait to get my engine in..

also rebuilding my swift GTI - back to its original colour etc.. OLDSKOOL IS COOL  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 January 2011, 22:32
No pics, but just put the Porsche rims back on today...wont be too long till car is taken off the road now for its all new lease of life   :cool:
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Post by: Toby on 31 January 2011, 22:35
No pics, but just put the Porsche rims back on today...wont be too long till car is taken off the road now for its all new lease of life   :cool:

"like"
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Post by: Bellend on 31 January 2011, 23:04
 :cool:

I think you should get on this group buy for dials.

Get the OEM backlit ones in either blue or white, this car seriousy deserves them.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 January 2011, 23:12
cheers buddie, Are thise the ones @ £65 large ones??  look pretty fly but i really love my dials that iv modded tho.

And also its worth mentioning i may be running the S3 dials with the conversion. We will see as iv not yet decided which way to go yet. either way whatever happens it will be good  :cool: :wink:
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Post by: Dec on 01 February 2011, 12:23
If thats the Mk3 i think it is, MJ did the seats in it, sweet ride

Cannot wait to get my engine in..

also rebuilding my swift GTI - back to its original colour etc.. OLDSKOOL IS COOL  :cool:

Like the sound of that, my mates (who done that sticker for you) just got his swift back on the road ready for a few RWYB days over the summer :cool: Was off the road for 6 months needing a cambelt/waterpump change but put some lightened pullys or something like that on, and a bigger throttle body, just waiting on Cams for it now :)
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Post by: Adam on 01 February 2011, 12:28
A mate of mine is selling his white Swift GTi. They do shift!

Come on kells do hurry up on the conversion.
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 February 2011, 12:50
yeah the swifts are great cars, she fired right up first time the other day - its been off the road stored since 2004 -2005,

This was the engine running first time in a long time!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6e1S_jA6x0

 it has a whole host of engine mods and is close to 150hp mark - very, very rapid




And yes Adam - not long now  :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 02 February 2011, 13:58
Lack of:

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j197/lowlifebronze/international008.jpg)

Made up by a glut of:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/diamondhell/bulls.jpg)

 :grin:
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Post by: robz on 02 February 2011, 14:05
picture fail :D
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 February 2011, 17:27
picture fail :D


 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Thomas mi old bean, if your gonna be your usual thingyish self then at least learn how to upload a picture correctly.
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Post by: Mikester on 02 February 2011, 17:29
I stand by my lack of post. Will this thread get to 200 pages with still just talk of this turbo?
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 February 2011, 17:45
who cares ??  apart from thomas. Car comes off road at the latest, in May.. as iv already said previoulsy.

patience is a virtue
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Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 02 February 2011, 22:19
Wasn't the second picture supposed to be blank?  :grin:
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Post by: dom on 02 February 2011, 22:31
Wasn't the second picture supposed to be blank?  :grin:

Nope, swear filter changed the URL.

http://oldcatman.blogspot.com/bullsh!t-lg%202.jpg

but change the "!" to "i"

I'm warning you though, it's not a pretty image!
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 February 2011, 12:50
There, fixed, because the most significant thing happening in this thread, or to this car is someone getting a picture URL wrong.

Brad Kells - LPP
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Post by: Len on 03 February 2011, 12:53
I wouldnt lower myself to even acknowledge DH if I were you Brad, he is just so full of sh!t himself he thinks everybody else is the same.
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Post by: robz on 03 February 2011, 15:15
:D
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Post by: lemski on 03 February 2011, 15:19
Lol. Can't wait to see this engine go in
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Post by: robz on 03 February 2011, 15:50
Neither can I!!
We beleive kells :D
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Post by: lemski on 03 February 2011, 16:55
Yeh it will go in. He lives in yorkshire any thing is possible :D
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 February 2011, 16:57
Awwww, Len you shouldn't :kiss:
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Post by: F17BAD on 03 February 2011, 18:07
I wouldnt lower myself to even acknowledge DH if I were you Brad, he is just so full of sh!t himself he thinks everybody else is the same.

yeah so true, those members of this site that are not bum lickers alsio know this..

And yes it will be happy days once the engine goes in - not long now till the work begins. I will get loads of pics for those people that would rather hate than participate ;-)

Today i have lowered the car a tad more - to do this I have flaired the arches at my mates bodyshop slightly more.
The car handles even better now!!  didnt expect that  :smiley:, rear 1cm from the bottom thread and the front is around 2.5, these coilovers go to -120mm
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Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 20:58
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Man, I could eat of that engine, it is soooooo clean!
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 04 February 2011, 10:04
I look forward to seeing the BAM go in. Wheels aren't my favourite but the rest of the car is top dollar.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 17:02
A few snaps of latest ride height

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8688/imagegrb.jpg)

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/697/imagepda.jpg)

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5343/imagelqo.jpg)

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/406/imageyk.jpg)

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7017/modsk.jpg)

and next to bens

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7828/imagevl.jpg)
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Post by: Toby on 06 February 2011, 17:05
my fave mk3 :D   :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 17:06
cheers buddie  :cool: :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 06 February 2011, 17:06
what tyres you got on front
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 17:09
same as on rear - yokohama S drive 195-45-16 with heavily mdifoed arches rto suite the drop, which is around the 100mm mark
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Post by: lemski on 06 February 2011, 17:26
not too bad that mate, will be awesome when that new engine is in. you got any idea of what parts are needed for the conversion
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 17:31
yeah mate iv got my shopping list at the ready - some parts already got  :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 06 February 2011, 19:29
ahhh good stuff, like to see people prove other people wrong. world doesnt need haters in it
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Post by: robz on 06 February 2011, 19:30
like!
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Post by: Wayne on 06 February 2011, 19:31
Looking good Brad :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 19:59
Looking good Brad :afro:

cheers pal, and Rob ;-)
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Post by: Jimp on 06 February 2011, 22:25
They colour of the wheels really pops in the last pic  :cool: Good stuff man :afro:
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Post by: Bellend on 06 February 2011, 22:30
Looking amazing.  :cool:

Maybe raise the rear 5mm?
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 22:35
thanks man :wink:

Regarding the drop: I wanna keep it as it is - i really dont like the rear higher than the front look, im going for a 90's stance look, level drop. iMO looks more mean  :evil:

jimp the rims have a special paint, they change depending on the lighting  :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 06 February 2011, 22:45
Fair enough.  :cool:

I hate the pictures cause I think mine looks pretty clean then I look at that.  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 22:50
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

takes alot to keep a black car looking fresh mate.. im working on Bens red one at the moment getting his back to its original red!
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Post by: Mikester on 06 February 2011, 22:59
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

takes alot to keep a black car looking fresh mate..

+1 Your not wrong.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 23:00
they look amazing tho once clean - but yeah takes some love to keep them looking fresh  :grin:
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Post by: Mikester on 06 February 2011, 23:04
Yeah, love a black car. Only problem is stone chips etc. The front bumper of my car is basically white as it the bonnet edge, big problem as its such a wedge shape.

Dont miss blackening all that trim though on the mk3!!!
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Post by: Bellend on 06 February 2011, 23:07
Mystic blue is bad enough, had it all looking finally after 10 hours of JUST light polishing and waxing looking really glossy and really deep shine looked nice then it got dark and looked deeper but the swirls and marks where "mates" had drawn in the dirt on my fresh painted bonnet were horrible.  :cry:
 :cry:

Need to get an orbital and some decent pads.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 February 2011, 23:16
yeah mate mine was like that when i bought it, i actually thought i had got a metalic black one hahaha, its took me ages to get it so im happy - but the paint is all original 1993  :cool:

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Post by: Dec on 07 February 2011, 12:23
Mine looks better when its dirty :grin:

Covers up all the scrapes and chips. Also covers up the swirl marks too :cry: :tongue:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 February 2011, 14:01
Mine looks better when its dirty :grin:

Covers up all the scrapes and chips. Also covers up the swirl marks too :cry: :tongue:

And demonstrates you're not LPP.  :grin:
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Post by: Dec on 07 February 2011, 14:08
 :embarassed: Haven't come accross LPP before, whats it mean? :smiley: :undecided:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 February 2011, 14:11
Legendary Polishing Poseur.
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Post by: Dec on 07 February 2011, 14:13
 :laugh: Fair enough! If I weren't doing so many miles, then I would care a bit more, but its impossible to keep mine looking nice when doing 500 miles a week :sad:

Not impossible, but I don't get time to wash it once a day/every two days
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 February 2011, 15:14
Do mine once a week mate thats all it takes, in the week mine gets filthy - its used as much as yours almost.

Once you have removed all the swirls you only have to get a good technique to prevent or reduce the chance of swirls and marring of the paint. I know the audi paint is crap, just like the paint on the new VW's. mine is also very soft and can mark easily. As i say i just spend a couple of hours every sunday giving it the once over :smiley:
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 February 2011, 23:03
Looks BANG on point mate!!
Soooooo cleannnnnn!
I actually cant wait to see it in the flesh again! Just had mine detailed too, but it still doesnt look that fresh :'(
You're such a cleaning pervert :D wish i had the time/skill to get to that state!

Great work man :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 February 2011, 23:09
hahahaha, "Cleaning pervert" haha, gotta be done - it gets a alot of compliments from joe public...

was almost written off by some young twerp in a fiesta earlier who decided to fly round a corner too fast crossing over to my side of the road - also giving the 2 finger wave and slowed down as tho he wanted a fight. He had the shock of his life when i (un known to him) double backed round the block and ended up coming towards him.  Gave huge Verbal Abuse - Standard  whilst he sat in his car with the doors locked hahaha.. spotty little runt


be good to catch up with you again mate :cool:

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Post by: benvictors on 08 February 2011, 23:14
Stop bullying the young uns Brad  :wink:
No more little white chips on my bonnet after waxing it last nite, but sh!t loads from yesterday  :cry: Think its defo grit off the road  :angry:
You fancy going to that RR day over at Manc in April mush??
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 February 2011, 23:17
Stop bullying the young uns Brad  :wink:
No more little white chips on my bonnet after waxing it last nite, but sh!t loads from yesterday  :cry: Think its defo grit off the road  :angry:
You fancy going to that RR day over at Manc in April mush??

i fancy it yeah - but wish it was later when i had the new engine in  :sad: :embarassed:whats the date of it ??   Hmmmmmm
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Post by: benvictors on 08 February 2011, 23:20
16th bud, think we could get it in before there  :shocked: :shocked:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 February 2011, 23:25
16th bud, think we could get it in before there  :shocked: :shocked:


its a posibility - i do have Luvley on at mungo on that date too tho, so i need to keep this in mind too
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Post by: benvictors on 08 February 2011, 23:30
I'd wanna be back around teatime anyhow bud, thats only 8 weeks to get everything and do the conversion tho   :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 February 2011, 23:33
i know mate - might be pushing it haha, not sure id wanna bother putting it on the rollers with the 8v lump :laugh: not even sure it will fit on them with it been so low, its usually the sill area that causes problems
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Post by: benvictors on 08 February 2011, 23:38
I wont be going on the rollers either, would just be good to show off the cars  :cool: Yours looks sweet and mine hopefully wont be far behind by then  :grin:
Mite go on the rollers just for a laugh   :laugh: :shocked: :laugh:
PLUS, its for a very good cause  :smiley:
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Post by: dom on 08 February 2011, 23:45
I wont be going on the rollers either, would just be good to show off the cars  :cool: Yours looks sweet and mine hopefully wont be far behind by then  :grin:
Mite go on the rollers just for a laugh   :laugh: :shocked: :laugh:
PLUS, its for a very good cause  :smiley:

Do it! As Ben says, even if you don't go on the rollers it should be a good day! :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 February 2011, 00:04
Yeah deffo sounds good I'll see, if the car is on the road I'll bring it if not I'll ride with ben :-)
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 March 2011, 18:40
Random pic after giving it a clean earlier...

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/8788/imagevtg.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 01 March 2011, 19:19
Did you use the Magifoam?
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 March 2011, 19:33
I used the super snow foam mate, got a real good foam, left it 10 mins to dwel then hit it with a 2 bucket wash.
I then pat it dry followed by a coat of dodo Juice PH, (machined it, sealed it and waxed it 4 weeks ago so this was just a top up

Foam wise im going to go down the Cherry snow foam route mate
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Post by: Dmonday on 01 March 2011, 19:35
Fresssssh :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 March 2011, 19:37
cheers Dan - sad news about yours, whats the plan car wise ??  what about that 5 door we spoke about the other weekend ??
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Post by: Dmonday on 01 March 2011, 19:49
cheers Dan - sad news about yours, whats the plan car wise ??  what about that 5 door we spoke about the other weekend ??

Will talk to you on facebook about what im thinking dude :)
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 March 2011, 20:20
cheers Dan - sad news about yours, whats the plan car wise ??  what about that 5 door we spoke about the other weekend ??

Will talk to you on facebook about what im thinking dude :)

ok pal :-)
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Post by: dom on 01 March 2011, 20:30
cheers Dan - sad news about yours, whats the plan car wise ??  what about that 5 door we spoke about the other weekend ??

Will talk to you on facebook about what im thinking dude :)

Hit me up with the info as well Dan :wink:
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Post by: CCGTI on 31 March 2011, 09:01
was looking good last night mate, pictures dont do it justice
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 12:26
cheers pal, good to meet you finally mate. will no doubt see you with ben again soon  :wink:

Was a decent little meet that, Car was well received by people so thats always nice  :cool:
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Post by: CCGTI on 31 March 2011, 13:10
interior and wheels really stud out for me mate, some nice stretch on the D90's
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 14:06
thanks mate.. :cool:

Here is a pic of the latest (small) addition to the car..  not long to go now till i take this off the road for its whole new lease of life (New Heart)

anyhow, got this, MK 3.5 cabbie handbreak lever. really suits my interior

Not the best of pics due to gail force 50 wind

(http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4787/imagenn.jpg) (http://img861.imageshack.us/i/imagenn.jpg/)

(http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/789/imagejkt.jpg) (http://img816.imageshack.us/i/imagejkt.jpg/)

Also got a sunglasses case that fits in the roofliner for my shades, ill get some pics when this arrives. next update now is gonna be probably the engine work..
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 March 2011, 16:32
didnt know your interior was that nice kells i love it lol
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 March 2011, 17:37
Does look cosy in there.  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 17:40
cheers guys, its prob the best bit of the car ful MJ Interiors retrim in nappa on Genuine Recaros, carbon heating etc
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Post by: tech1889 on 31 March 2011, 17:41
bloody hell that musta set you back lol
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 17:46
its worth quite a bit mate yea.

Try to keep everything on the car high quality without it looking OTT

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4414/imagexhb.jpg)
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Post by: golf-sib on 31 March 2011, 17:51
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 17:52
cheers buddy  :cool:
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Post by: Khare on 31 March 2011, 17:55
So where did you manage to find a VW dealership that sells brand new Mk3's then?  :huh: :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 17:57
hahaha, many many hours of cleaning  :laugh:
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Post by: CCGTI on 31 March 2011, 18:02
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!

best golf around the old mk3, better looking than its younger and fatter mk4 sister
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Post by: golf-sib on 31 March 2011, 18:05
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!

best golf around the old mk3, better looking than its younger and fatter mk4 sister

 :grin: VW now make additional parts for the mk3, carbon fiber oars  :lipsrsealed: I'm going to get my coat...
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 March 2011, 18:40
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!

best golf around the old mk3, better looking than its younger and fatter mk4 sister

Wouldn't go that far. What about their even thinner older sisters?  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 31 March 2011, 18:58
Well im not that fussy, i love em all and iv had most of them too, although never had a mk1, but always loved them..

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Post by: SoundillusioN on 31 March 2011, 19:38
Well im not that fussy, i love em all and iv had most of them too, although never had a mk1, but always loved them..



You won't like mine, it's no beauty queen, its a bit simple too.  :grin:
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Post by: CCGTI on 31 March 2011, 23:03
Looks spot on mate, I generally hate mk3oats but I love your one!

best golf around the old mk3, better looking than its younger and fatter mk4 sister

Wouldn't go that far. What about their even thinner older sisters?  :cool:

dont get me wrong 4 5 and 6 generation have there perks but they are all to fat as hot hatches, alot of people slag the old mk3 off but it no bigger than the mk2 and it has the right balance of new skool/old skool styling
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 20:49
BAM ENGINE HAS BEEN PURCHESED

BAD BOI

 :evil:
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Post by: dom on 06 May 2011, 20:58
BAM ENGINE HAS BEEN PURCHESED

BAD BOI

 :evil:

Nice! When's the conversion starting? :evil:
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Post by: lemski on 06 May 2011, 21:05
Yeh boi. Whens this kickin off. Gunna be awesome to see unfold
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:09
in about a month it will start, well end off this month, engine only done 35k too :drool:

Can Not Fookin Wait, this car is crying out for this lump
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Post by: lemski on 06 May 2011, 21:11
Gunna be a reet sleeper
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:15
yes mate deffo is, a few people are gonna get a shock next time they see this car at the lights and think its a ghay 8v...  :evil: :evil:

running it on Factory ECU so it will be getting mapped right away too
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Post by: lemski on 06 May 2011, 21:20
If i had the money i'd have a bam in my mk2 just to see people faces as it fcuks off into the distance.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:25
almost bought a AUQ from a VRS but na, it had to be the BAM, its the one i always wanted.. and at this mileage it had to be done.. was not cheap but it will be worth it
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Post by: Wayne on 06 May 2011, 21:28
AUQ would still be a good choice  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:33
wayne, ypou are right it was my second choice and a close one at that, almost went for one on ED38, (nice car u have their btw)  i dont get on here much lately due to alot of personal problems and also because im very busy with my events and other sh!t

but i said id do this conversion to this car with a BAM and people on here doubted that.. so here i am following it thru..as ever sticking to my word

 :cool:
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Post by: Wayne on 06 May 2011, 21:35
wayne, ypou are right it was my second choice and a close one at that, almost went for one on ED38, (nice car u have their btw) 
 :cool:

No probs and thanks, well pleased with it so far, 180bhp is good fun even in a bigger car  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 May 2011, 21:42
yes i thought he 180 was a good base, the one i was looking at had a K04 on it tho, so would have been bang on tbh.. but u know i always wanted a BAM.. and thats what iv got, one of the very last ones too
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Post by: Jimp on 07 May 2011, 15:09
Best of luck with the conversion man :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 May 2011, 19:38
cheers dude
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Post by: dazzawest1987 on 07 May 2011, 23:10
You doing the conversion yourself kells?
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Post by: Toby on 07 May 2011, 23:13
lookin forward to this  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 01:18
doing it myself yes, me and Ben victors off here are gonna make this bad boi come alive.. gonna be good..   :cool:
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Post by: Jack3559 on 08 May 2011, 01:31
Got any plans for the engine bay?
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 01:35
just want a OEM look matey, noting pretenteous or owt silly, standard looking tidy OEM as tho this is how it left the factory
although might polish a few bits or powdercoat etc

car is my daily ride and its not seeing any filler etc or hiding wires and sh!t like that.. been here before and had the T shirt

OEM look is the best way to be (for me)

engine going in on factory management and having remap.. i cant explain how much im looking forward to this. just got a few little bits to get and away we go, will be back end of month and jopefully habe it done in a week  :undecided: :tongue: :laugh: :cool: we will see haha
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Post by: tdi_blu on 08 May 2011, 08:04
Good luck with the conversion Kell will be a awsome ride once shes all done plus it shuts the haters up  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 11:16
Good luck with the conversion Kell will be a awsome ride once shes all done plus it shuts the haters up  :wink:

cheers bro..

and yeah. haha, feel the love on this thread haha. people will always find something to hate but hey ho.

will get plenty of pics and videos on here of the conversion for those whjo are interested
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Post by: benvictors on 08 May 2011, 11:33
Looking forward to this mateeeeee  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Think im as giddy as you are about it  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 11:35
yes pal, its gonna be a good do.. can not wait mate!!

*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe
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Post by: benvictors on 08 May 2011, 11:48
yes pal, its gonna be a good do.. can not wait mate!!

*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe

True to your word are kid  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 May 2011, 16:46
*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe

Is the 8V motor out?

Is the car off the road?

You've bought an engine.

That's not an engine conversion, that's buying some parts.

As for timescales, remind me when you started blathering on about putting a 20VT in it?

This could run aground yet.
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Post by: jonnypolish on 08 May 2011, 16:57
I'm so happy for you brother!!
A long time in the pipeline!
I think after my trip to the ring a visit to Leeds will be in order  :cool:
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Post by: tdi_blu on 08 May 2011, 17:09
*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe

Is the 8V motor out?

Is the car off the road?

You've bought an engine.

That's not an engine conversion, that's buying some parts.

As for timescales, remind me when you started blathering on about putting a 20VT in it?

This could run aground yet.

I knew the hater would be round soon enough  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 17:12
yes mate, you should come up on the weekend of the 28th of this month, thier is a party going off mate.. Wink wink.. will add you to a certain private group on FB

the engine will be out by this time too thomas fella.. blew more than id have liked to on the set up i have got but its well worth it to me because the miles on the engine is the lowest iv seen... but cheers for the hate, wouldnt expect any less on this forum whaha
BTW, i dint realise i said it was a race, as far as i remember, i could be wrong but i am sure i said i would be taking the car off the road in May...  its May now..   :wink:



Blu - haha yea so predictable aint it
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Post by: Wayne on 08 May 2011, 20:30
Good luck with it Brad  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 May 2011, 20:35
thanks Wayne mate  :wink:
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Post by: robz on 09 May 2011, 14:24
cant wait for this dude!!
good luck with it all ;)
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 14:43
cheers bro

Original engine / Gearbox set up now For Sale

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=192198.0
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Post by: tshirt2k on 09 May 2011, 14:50
Good luck with the "conversion" mate.:afro: I'm sure it was just the topic to get the green hater going.
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 15:17
hehe cheers matey, itching to get at this, engine should arrive at mine on the weekend, give it a quick dust down, Turbo off to my mate to be checked over altho he says it will be fine at the mileage its done  (still worth lookin while the engine is out tho)

A few bits still to get then me and ben are on with it, cant wait.. 

f**k the haters..   :grin:
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Post by: dom on 09 May 2011, 15:18
hehe cheers matey, itching to get at this, engine should arrive at mine on the weekend, give it a quick dust down, Turbo off to my mate to be checked over altho he says it will be fine at the mileage its done  (still worth lookin while the engine is out tho)

A few bits still to get then me and ben are on with it, cant wait.. 

f**k the haters..   :grin:

Good luck with it :afro:

Make sure you take lots of pics of it in progress, everyone loves pics :wink:
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Post by: Jack3559 on 09 May 2011, 15:20
More pics = More man points.
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Post by: robz on 09 May 2011, 15:26
More pics = More man points.

Equals more man love :D
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 15:29
lots of pics and vids will be taken.. this is a must for me too, and i know ben feels the same  :cool:
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Post by: jamrock on 09 May 2011, 17:03
good luck with the swap kells!!

if the engine is a low mile unit then should be no problem with it. getting the turbo checked whilst its off is a good move.

bespoke division is doing an S3 swap too, looks like its way forward  :cool:
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Post by: Dmonday on 09 May 2011, 18:01
Siccccck :) good to see this started dude! We need updates :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 18:04
Danny mate their will be loads of them, we will bring the car over to you once its complete too  :cool:
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Post by: Dmonday on 09 May 2011, 20:14
Danny mate their will be loads of them, we will bring the car over to you once its complete too  :cool:

Haha siccck :) f**k haters man. Get this done, will be sweet!
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 20:18
gonna be just like the number plate mate.. Bad Boii   :evil:

Lookin for a cheap fooked valver, willing to pay upto £350 if anybody knows of one ?
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Post by: dom on 09 May 2011, 20:25
gonna be just like the number plate mate.. Bad Boii   :evil:

Lookin for a cheap fooked valver, willing to pay upto £350 if anybody knows of one ?

That just for the clutch/gearbox setup? If so:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=190622.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=190622.0)

And flog the rest :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 May 2011, 20:28
cheers mate, bit long in the tooth although i plan to rebuild it anyhow so will give it thought
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 22:47
A mk3 16v GTI has now been purcased (many thanks Stu) for some bits i need for my conversion.

really is too good to break as the shell is one of the best iv seen!!!!!  very very suprised and even tho it has suspect head gasket fail, it drives great, oil is in the coolent expansion bottle but the oil in the engine looks fine.
 Here is link for the car, i paid £250 for her and love it haha.. gearbox is sweet as a nut and theirs some other bits i want off this for mine. Hell it even has a rare engine undercover like mine and a rear under cover which iv never ever seen before plus twin rad fans etc...

 Think im gonna get it back on the road later down the line tho as it really is too good to break and i think i can get her looking really nice.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=159239.0

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5519/imagehpc.jpg)
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Post by: dom on 10 May 2011, 22:49
Look how high it is compared to Ben's :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 22:51
not gonna lie i was feeling sick all the way home haha forgot just how high they are as standard hahahaha

she moves well tho
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Post by: robiwill on 10 May 2011, 22:54
try changing the oil cooler common on a 16v for failing and most mistake it for a failed headgasket worth a try
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 22:57
try changing the oil cooler common on a 16v for failing and most mistake it for a failed headgasket worth a try

cheers for this info - really good example of a mk3 so would be great to keep her alive - my mate really wants to buy it from me
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Post by: dom on 10 May 2011, 22:58
not gonna lie i was feeling sea sick all the way home haha forgot just how high they are as standard hahahaha

she moves well tho

Added a little bit for you :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 23:01
i was gonna put that haha
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Post by: benvictors on 10 May 2011, 23:05
Hi, said it might be the oil cooler sunbeam  :wink:
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Post by: Wayne on 10 May 2011, 23:24
Bypass the cooler, flush the cooling system through and see if the oil comes back.
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 May 2011, 23:50
How do I do this ?

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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 11 May 2011, 00:18
Bargain.

Just disconnect both pipes from the oil cooler and bridge them with some copper tubing and jubilee clips or similar and refill the coolant and run it mate.
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 10:32
cheers mate gonna try this out..

really like the car, gonna rob the bits i need for my conversion and then replace them and kee her on the road when i have more time, as i have 2 people interested in buying it
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Post by: CCGTI on 11 May 2011, 18:09
looks a good car for 250 mate
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 20:13
its really good mate

F17BAD needs the gearbox, gear shift mech and twin rad fans out of this car but im
gonna fit gearbox, fly and new clutch that is all in my 8v into this. and fix the issue it has with the oil cooler

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7231/imageqdn.jpg)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/815/imagexof.jpg)
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Post by: CCGTI on 11 May 2011, 20:35
good luck with conversion as well, should sound sexy when its all fitted
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 20:50
Shady, chris and any other tw4t that bums each other on here and has nothing better to do with their time other than make sly comments will be pleased to know the black car comes off the road this weekend and the work starts for its whole new lease of life

need the car back on the road ASAP, hope to have the green one sorted to use while we do the black one  :cool:



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Post by: snifferdog on 11 May 2011, 21:00
Good stuff! I'll be checkin this thread out a bit more now!!

Also, my mate had the oil cooler problem on his Peugeot, turned out to be the headgasket.  :grin: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 21:09
hahaha no way!!  well we will see, iv been offered 800 for the car as it is !!  really wanna use it for a few weeks if i can tho
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Post by: Bellend on 11 May 2011, 21:11
Your car is looking amazing. I'm truely jealous, especially of the time you have to keep it clean.  :tongue:

One tiny thing I'm not keen on though, is the shortened rear plate?

Looks a bit out of place.  :undecided:

Just IMO tho! :afro:
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Post by: neil1780 on 11 May 2011, 21:11
Sweet mate this will finish the car off nicely :afro:
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Post by: cняis on 11 May 2011, 21:14
Shady, chris and any other tw4t that bums each other on here and has nothing better to do with their time other than make sly comments will be pleased to know the black car comes off the road this weekend and the work starts for its whole new lease of life

need the car back on the road ASAP, hope to have the green one sorted to use while we do the black one  :cool:





Me or another Chris? As I've not commented on this thread or your car (I think) :tongue:
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Post by: Toby on 11 May 2011, 21:21
result on the green 16v!!

cant wait to see your's gettin on the way ... F**k the hayters  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 21:24
ahh come on chris, haha you know exactly what im talking about but its all fun, next time jsut say what you think on here rather than else where - at least idiots like DH are not afraid to say sh!t to my face haha

im not havin a go at you mate coz iv not met you or owt i jut dont like all the arsey comments which were clearly aimed at me  :grin:..


toby - cheers mate :wink:

bellend, yeah mate, maybe a marmite thing the short one but i love it so it stays. cheers for your comments it means alot to me
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Post by: cняis on 11 May 2011, 21:47
ahh come on chris, haha you know exactly what im talking about but its all fun, next time jsut say what you think on here rather than else where - at least idiots like DH are not afraid to say sh!t to my face haha

im not havin a go at you mate coz iv not met you or owt i jut dont like all the arsey comments which were clearly aimed at me  :grin:..


toby - cheers mate :wink:

bellend, yeah mate, maybe a marmite thing the short one but i love it so it stays. cheers for your comments it means alot to me

Is it because I said "awwwww snap!" ?? Its from 'my name is earl', his ex mrs says it all the time, it means "damn"!  :laugh: i think you've got the wrong end of the stick this time  :kiss: i wasnt saying it in agreement, i was saying it as i was shocked  :shocked:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 21:51
i dont watch that program and okies if you say so, no worries, if thats the case sorry  :cool:

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Post by: cняis on 11 May 2011, 21:57
i dont watch that program and okies if you say so, no worries, if thats the case sorry  :cool:



Thats OK I do sometimes b!tch with you about pointless sh!t but thats to your (online) face not in someone elses dubrides thread. I stand less chance of reprisal on other peoples threads   :tongue:

Anyway you should be chuffed with all the attention you get, good and bad  :grin:

Now hurry the fk up and get the engine in  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 May 2011, 22:02
i hear u mate, repled to your pm too  :wink:

 :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:06
Well i drove the golf in 2.0l 8v guise for the last time today... 

work has started on the conversion, had a spare hour or so, and as of today this is how she stands

time is running out for this engine in this car:

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3667/img0960a.jpg) (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/img0960a.jpg/)

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8861/img0969j.jpg) (http://img805.imageshack.us/i/img0969j.jpg/)

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/9987/img0965l.jpg) (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/img0965l.jpg/)

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4508/img0967v.jpg) (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/img0967v.jpg/)

Engine is going to be fully removed on the weekend...

sad to see the car in bits but will be worth it in the end   :cool:



Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:11
You can't put the 8v box in the 16v without a lot of ball ache. Better to pick up a good 2nd hand 16v box.

nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:14
why not? whats the issues matey?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:20
How the hell did you get the rear wheels on the ramps in that direction, did you jack it up first?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 12 May 2011, 22:20
8v box is rod change, 16v isn't :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: robz on 12 May 2011, 22:22
good luck with it all fella!
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:22
why not? whats the issues matey?

Well the 8v box is rod shift and the 16v is cable shift, you need to salvage a Ibiza cupra i believe to do the swap.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:23
had to jack it coz even with rear bumper removed the car was too low to get up the ramp haha


rod yea, but why cant i just change the whole lot out, id like to know if it is possible and what needs to be done rather than blut 1 liner replies haha

ill ask over on CGTI
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:23
8v is rod change and cable clutch system, 16v is cable shift and Hydrolic clutch. These two systems are quite different and have different peddle boxes as well as the gear change and fluid/cable differences. It is doable but it would be a right pain and would make the 16v a pain to maintain in the future plus any savvy buyer would be put off by all the 8v stuff in it.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:25
8v is rod change and cable clutch system, 16v is cable shift and Hydrolic clutch. These two systems are quite different and have different peddle boxes as well as the gear change and fluid/cable differences. It is doable but it would be a right pain and would make the 16v a pain to maintain in the future plus any savvy buyer would be put off by all the 8v stuff in it.

Nick

pedal box is exactly same mate

all the 8v stuff, its just a gear box, iv seen folk use this box in conversions on mk2 with ABF, is it really that hard a job to do. i just want the car ro run about in
 p.s hydro set up off in black one

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:28
The pedal box isn't teh same as Horney mentions due to the 8v having a cable operated clutch
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:29
Humm maybe the MKIII 16v still has a cable clutch then, was pretty sure they were hydro. Been a while since I had my head under a 16v so I'm sure some one else will confirm the clutch type. If it is a hydro one th epeddle box will be different to drive the cylinder.

Folks use the ABF gearbox in MKII's as it's stronger than the 8v one and the cable shift means you can mount the shifter up high in a track car.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:30
The mk3 16v clutch is definitely hydro operated.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:30
been told its the same bar a bit on it which u blank off or something,

Originally Posted by kells  
So can i not use the 16v cat at all ? do i need to use the pedal box from the 16v too ??

im going to remap it also once its all fitted

All Mk3 pedal boxes are the same but you will need to add the hydro clutch setup to yours if your using a 16v box.
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Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: lemski on 12 May 2011, 22:31
16v are hydros just to confirm. Kells whens the work starting on this beast properly anyway?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:32
what do i need to do then to rock the 8v box or is it a deffo no go


work has started mate, see pics, main work starts saturday, i collect my BAM sat morning as its still in a seat cupra R thats been wrote off
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:35
How comes you want to use the 8v box in your conversion anyway, surely the 16v gear ratios are more suitable plus the fact it'll be a lot easier to set up due to the points that have just been made?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:37
He wants to put th e8v box in the 16v car to replace the box he's nicking from that for the 20vT.

I'm pretty sure the peddle boxes are different.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 12 May 2011, 22:38
Engine still not in yet? ...........  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Good luck with the conversion matey, it's about time this car had the power to match!

OCD by any chance? Everything is spotless, even the bay! Nicest 8v bay i've ever seen and i'm sure the S3 one would look awesome too! :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 May 2011, 22:39
Last time I looked at a tugboat 8V vs 16V the set up was completely different and yes, that includes cable clutch actuation on the 8V and hydraulic on the 16V and IIRC pedal boxes too.

I can even see the cable for the clutch on your car.

the 16V WILL be hydraulic.

There are minor details like the mounts on the front of the engine, the o/s driveshaft, as well as the mechanism which are different 020 to 02A install, but obviously you've done all this research already, right?

Make sure you undo those hub bolts before you remove the gearbox or you might make a right mess of those 928 rims trying to get the hub bolts undone.  You are going to put a set of shyte wheels on while you do the conversion, surely?

Given that you don't have any idea even about the sandwich cooler and what/where/why it might be an issue this conversion thread has the potential to develop into a proper comedy now, unless you're buying in the intelligence and real world nolidge to do the conversion.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:40
RIght so I think your options are as follows:

1) Swap the whole lot from the 16v into the 8v. Gearbox, clutch system and peddle box. Then put all the 8v stuff in the 16v.

2) Use the 16v box in the conversion and use some seat bits to retain the cars current cable clutch system therefore saving the peddle box swap. The 16v car will then need a replacement 16v box or sell as a project minus gearbox.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:40
He wants to put th e8v box in the 16v car to replace the box he's nicking from that for the 20vT.

I'm pretty sure the peddle boxes are different.

Nick

opps sorry yeah of course i almost forgot the point of the current conversation then. ha.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:41
yea wanna do what nick says, trying to kee costs down now too, im at 3k mark so dont really wanna be buying more boxes haha

Wherry cheers matey, means alot to me.. this car is almost their for me in how i want it.... engine iv got is uber low miles and the car is screeming out for it, i am sad to see the 8v go tho, its been good to me, they are not /. or this one wasnt as bad as folk make out
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:44
Surely it'd be quicker, cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to just buy another 16v box from a breakers yard just to get the spare car up and running?

If you don't want to spend any more money then why don't you sell the 8v engine and gearbox to fund the 16v gearbox replacement?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:45
Last time I looked at a tugboat 8V vs 16V the set up was completely different and yes, that includes cable clutch actuation on the 8V and hydraulic on the 16V and IIRC pedal boxes too.

I can even see the cable for the clutch on your car.

the 16V WILL be hydraulic.

There are minor details like the mounts on the front of the engine, the o/s driveshaft, as well as the mechanism which are different 020 to 02A install, but obviously you've done all this research already, right?

Make sure you undo those hub bolts before you remove the gearbox or you might make a right mess of those 928 rims trying to get the hub bolts undone.  You are going to put a set of shyte wheels on while you do the conversion, surely?

Given that you don't have any idea even about the sandwich cooler and what/where/why it might be an issue this conversion thread has the potential to develop into a proper comedy now, unless you're buying in the intelligence and real world nolidge to do the conversion.  :grin:

dont worry, wheels coming off tomo, today was just to remove the easy bits dude and the fluids   :wink:



cheers for reply, iv not researced a 8v into a ABF which is what im asking about, i do know what i need for the conversion into the black one tho lol, thats why i bought a full 16v car to use the bits from
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:47
Surely it'd be quicker, cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to just buy another 16v box from a breakers yard just to get the spare car up and running?

yes mate looks as tho, deffo dont want to break it as its too good

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1818/imageih.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Horney on 12 May 2011, 22:47
Surely it'd be quicker, cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to just buy another 16v box from a breakers yard just to get the spare car up and running?

That's what I'd do, plenty of MKIII's get broken and it'll be worth more money if it can move under it's own steam. Just robing the box from that car and keeping F17 cable clutch seems the most sensible and easiest way of doing it. Hydro clutch is a bit rubbish anyway, they feel a bit odd. That said, I', not a fan of cable change either TBH, rod feels more direct. At least VW's cable change doesn't feel to bad, Vauxhalls feels like stirring lumpy custard.

Nick
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:49
cheers mate, ill look intio this RE the F17BAD cable
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 May 2011, 22:53
Surely it'd be quicker, cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to just buy another 16v box from a breakers yard just to get the spare car up and running?

That's what I'd do, plenty of MKIII's get broken and it'll be worth more money if it can move under it's own steam. Just robing the box from that car and keeping F17 cable clutch seems the most sensible and easiest way of doing it. Hydro clutch is a bit rubbish anyway, they feel a bit odd. That said, I', not a fan of cable change either TBH, rod feels more direct. At least VW's cable change doesn't feel to bad, Vauxhalls feels like stirring lumpy custard.

Nick

I totally agree, I MUCH preferred the gear changes in my previous 8v Golfs especially after a good refurb and replacing all the bushes. But yeah, as cable change boxs go ther are worse out there than what VW opted for on the 16v  I guess.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:54
ok cool, so what do i need to do to kee the cable, is it the seat thing i need to do
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Jack3559 on 12 May 2011, 22:57
I know you're not in the market for another box, but to save working on the 16V at all, why not look for a TDi box? Apparently a good choice for 1.8T.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 May 2011, 22:57
looked into that matey, but the 16v box is what i want, cheers mate
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 12 May 2011, 23:10
This is what we want for the clutch to make life easier matey, Cable to Hydro set up from a Synchro

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r272/fangdanga/Forums/02Aclutchbracket.jpg
Part number 02A 141 708B, still available from VW I think  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 06:09
Actually it's from very early Passat3.  It also comes with a boot and two bolts.

Needs the bracket that holds the cable in place at the front, too.

This set up was also used in various SEATs - Ibiza and Toledo.

As you want all this to convert to cable you've bought the wrong car - Ibiza or Toledo ABF would have been much more sensible.

You also (obviously) need the right cable to go with it, as it's at a further 90 degrees around to the rod-change box.

Not sure the Toledo cable will be right, as the pedal box on the G3 is quite different to the G2.

Not sure Brad's left leg will be strong enough on an uprated 228mm clutch with a cable clutch though.  :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: lemski on 13 May 2011, 07:49
what do i need to do then to rock the 8v box or is it a deffo no go


work has started mate, see pics, main work starts saturday, i collect my BAM sat morning as its still in a seat cupra R thats been wrote off


i always miss thing when am on my phone.

i'd just get another hydo box from somats
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 May 2011, 08:46
Actually it's from very early Passat3.  It also comes with a boot and two bolts.

Needs the bracket that holds the cable in place at the front, too.

This set up was also used in various SEATs - Ibiza and Toledo.

As you want all this to convert to cable you've bought the wrong car - Ibiza or Toledo ABF would have been much more sensible.

You also (obviously) need the right cable to go with it, as it's at a further 90 degrees around to the rod-change box.

Not sure the Toledo cable will be right, as the pedal box on the G3 is quite different to the G2.

Not sure Brad's left leg will be strong enough on an uprated 228mm clutch with a cable clutch though.  :grin:


 :grin:

many thanks for this reply, any ideas which cable to try mate ?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 10:38
Late Toldeo ABF 16V is the one you want, but be aware it's auto-adjust.

The part number is on this site somewhere - search for Toledo or something.

I think the one on mine has been (deliberately) butchered by an AA man (one who I know) at some point before it got to my car - the auto-adjust has been defeated and it has screw adjustment on the end. 

Suits me fine, but be aware the standardish clutch in mine is already quite heavy on the cable.  The hydraulic set up will be significantly lighter and an easier every day drive.
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 May 2011, 11:19
cheers for this, very helpfull  :wink:

Can you give me your honest opinion which set up to use, either Hydro or the cable ?  basically what would you decide? 

once again, thanks for the imput
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Post by: Wayne on 13 May 2011, 11:22
I would tempted to run hydro as it will lighter in day to day use.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 12:09
It's a daily and you're a girl.

Go hydro.
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Post by: F17BAD on 13 May 2011, 12:30
hahaha, id not go to that extent, i got a paddle one in the swift that was heavvvvvyyyyy..

cheers tho, ill have a think.  :cool:

Collect the Bam engine in the morning and im removing the 8v lump from the Golf shell tomo afternoon
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dubsport on 13 May 2011, 14:32
This thread makes me happy.

DH and Kells building bridges  :grin:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 May 2011, 14:59
Well fook me... I don't come on here for a few weeks and look what happens...  Have there been lots of man hugs going on in my absence?
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Post by: JC on 13 May 2011, 15:03
 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 May 2011, 16:50
Just polish, fanny about with trim and paint centre-caps: collect abuse.

Actually do something worthwhile: get help and assistance.

It's simple equation.  :grin:
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Post by: dubsport on 13 May 2011, 18:51
glad you havent commented on my thread then :laugh: you would have a field day  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 May 2011, 22:27
yeah big thanks must go out to DH, good of him for taking the time to be helpfull, jokes and sh!t aside, means alot so cheers
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 19:20
Ok, so today i got my new engine, a 200 mile round trip this morning

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5053/img0972dz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/img0972dz.jpg/)

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/347/img0973li.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/img0973li.jpg/)

and this afternoon we got the old engine out of the car, this is the ver last picture you will see with this 8v lump in the bay

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3104/img0978k.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/img0978k.jpg/)

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6821/img0980u.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/228/img0980u.jpg/)

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4957/img0982ud.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/img0982ud.jpg/)


also removed half the dash.. (no pics yet)

tomo rest of dash will be removed plus theb old engine loom, also gonna do some repair work to the Green 16v car to solve the oil cooler issue.. so its a early start and im DJ'ing tonight..

Happy times tho..   :cool:
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Post by: JC on 14 May 2011, 19:30
and so much easier starting with a clean bay before removing the old engine - good progress for day one :afro:

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Post by: kniterider on 14 May 2011, 19:31
good stuf fmate, looking forward to seeing it progress :)

Gaz
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 19:32
cheers guys, chuff - Deffo   :wink: :cool:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 May 2011, 19:37
Catching up on everything.... nice progress. :afro:... what you doing with the old shiny lump?
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 19:39
thanks mate, old lump is in the classifieds  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 14 May 2011, 20:06
Think we did pretty damn good to say we didnt touch the car til half 1  :wink: think the black beauty will be just about prepped for stuff to be bolted back in by the end of play tomorrow, aside from Mr Kells going to town on the bay with his extensive cleaning products  :laugh: :grin:

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 20:11
hahaha, yep cant wait to tackle them hard to reach places i never sould before... the New engine needs some attention too... its on my head now...  :tongue:

Ben showing it some love

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7235/img0977i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/img0977i.jpg/)

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Post by: CCGTI on 14 May 2011, 20:15
defo having a play in this when its done, top work lads
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 20:18
no probs dude, cheers  :wink:
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Post by: CCGTI on 14 May 2011, 20:22
if u need a spare pair of hands gives us a shout and if im free more than happy to help
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Post by: benvictors on 14 May 2011, 20:29
hahaha, yep cant wait to tackle them hard to reach places i never sould before... the New engine needs some attention too... its on my head now...  :tongue:

Ben showing it some love

(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7235/img0977i.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/img0977i.jpg/)


Ha ha ha ha
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 20:30
cheers roger mate, welcome down anytime
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Post by: Wayne on 14 May 2011, 21:30
Excellent work :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 May 2011, 21:40
cheers wayne mate
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 May 2011, 13:31
Today i got the dash out and the looms out ready to be worked on

(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6010/imagezny.jpg)


and started to clean the new engine, currently deciding if to powdercoat the inlet manifold and the chargepipe black, leave standard or go polised

(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4899/imageakl.jpg)


next is to get the wiring looms sorted, iv had no sleep, so thats all for today..
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tech1889 on 15 May 2011, 13:40
i would go part polished mate.. powdered black makes the bay look a week bit dull in my eyes  :smiley:

Making good progress though mate  :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 15 May 2011, 15:25
Don't powdercoat, you need to enable as much heat transfer as possible and you also want to not polish the boost pipes. The last tithead I was at the 'ring with who had polished boost pipes couldn't figure out why they kept blowing off..... I suggested he scour over the ends of them with some sandpaper - suddenly the problem was gone...
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Post by: Horney on 15 May 2011, 15:34
Don't powdercoat, you need to enable as much heat transfer as possible and you also want to not polish the boost pipes. The last tithead I was at the 'ring with who had polished boost pipes couldn't figure out why they kept blowing off..... I suggested he scour over the ends of them with some sandpaper - suddenly the problem was gone...

lol, seen this with polished boost pipes as well. Look good polished but as DH says leave the contact surfaces rough.

Nick

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Post by: F17BAD on 15 May 2011, 17:35
Don't powdercoat, you need to enable as much heat transfer as possible and you also want to not polish the boost pipes. The last tithead I was at the 'ring with who had polished boost pipes couldn't figure out why they kept blowing off..... I suggested he scour over the ends of them with some sandpaper - suddenly the problem was gone...

hi mate, iv decided to leave it all OEM. its the look im going for so would be silly to do any other.. and cheers for the heads up  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 15 May 2011, 19:32
Leave the pipes standard :smiley: oe look is the best :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 15 May 2011, 20:35
OEM it is  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: golf-sib on 15 May 2011, 22:03
Hairspray also roughens up the surface between silicone and polished pipes which is common practice if you decide to do any pipework yourself and make sure you bead the pipes too.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: pablo64 on 16 May 2011, 20:39
looking forward to seeing this sorted, cars excellent as it was, now it will have show and go, well done kells, respect to ya fella
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Post by: F17BAD on 16 May 2011, 22:13
Cheers matey

 :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 17 May 2011, 13:18
What you decided with the exhaust, downpipe, cat situation?
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Post by: F17BAD on 17 May 2011, 13:54
Hi matey

Im actually going to message u and send you a few links of cats to see what your opinion is, downpipe is also on my mind, theirs the Qpeng which iv heard bad things about and then the one on the thread i made on CGTI that somebody put a link up of.. i need the setup to have provisions for 2 lambda sensors, i look of the one you have TBH

Gonna measure my magnex, but if this is too small its gonna have to be a Jetex


will message you in a bit mate - possibly tonight  :cool:
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Post by: dubsport on 17 May 2011, 22:53
Powdercoat and polished would look awesome mate as the rest of your car is proper shiny 8)
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 May 2011, 11:46
what bad things have you heard about the qpeng downpipe? I've only heard bad about their management, I've been using the downpipe no problems though. Only 1 lambda on it though

I'd be in interested to see your cat options as well as I'm looking for one atm :) Was gonna get the Hoffmann but would be good to compare it to others, I cant really find any others suitable
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 18 May 2011, 12:38
hi matey, think im gonna go with the same cat as you but tap it and fit a lambda probe to it, does the qpeng have a hole for a probe then?

iv heard the welds are crap and fail..

take a read of this thread i made on CGTI, the one in the link somebody has provided is the one i think im going to get (Downpipe)

http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235473

also interested in the cat Tshirt2K mentions although thats over in the states
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 May 2011, 13:11
ah ok your running a k04? im just a k03s dunno what the qpeng k04 pipe is like, only 1 weld on the k03 and looks pretty good. It has a lambda hole for the pre cat which is just after the flexi bit after it joins to the manifold, seems a bit close to the engine for my liking but guess it will do the job. Will see what Mr MOT has to say about it  :grin: I've mapped out my post cat lambda dont think it will affect anything its just there to check the cat is working properly.

I like the look of that cat tshirt2k posted! would need to cut the flange off though like he said, it looks like what I imagine the Hoffmann cat would look like with sleeves welded on its ends, which is what I was planning to do :P If you go for it let me know what happens :)
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Post by: tshirt2k on 18 May 2011, 13:53
Dont think the hoffman cat is 2.5". Would be a direct fit for the standard sytem which steps down to just over 2" IIRC. And its dearer.
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 May 2011, 14:07
I was looking at a Hoffmann universal cat on ebay for £109 thats 2.5"
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-2-5-200-cpi-Sports-Cat-Catalytic-Converter-/270751139635?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f0a068733
Was unsure about the quality for the price but have been told there good?
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Post by: tshirt2k on 18 May 2011, 14:36
Thought you meant the direct fit one. They are all around the same price. But they will still need fabriction to fit depending where the downpipe finished in comparison to the exhaust. I thought about using one of these and although i could have done it, i didnt fancy all the messing about under the car and making more flanges etc.
Youll need to buy a length of pipe and connectors. Which could add upto £50. Plus welding. I added it up and got the 42 Draft design one as it was cold at the time.   :sad:

All depends on if you can fabricate yourself or how much extra it'll cost to get it fabbed up.
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 18 May 2011, 15:31
Yeah will need a bit of modding, but with the qpeng downpipe having a non flanged 2.5" end and my exhaust also having 2.5" was thinking all I'd need to do was weld on 2 sleeves 1 on each end slightly bigger than the outter diammeter of downpipe/exhaust and just slide it on and hold it with clamps. At least I'm hoping thats all I'd need to do  :p
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Post by: Mikester on 19 May 2011, 16:30
Enough talk, more pics. lol.
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 May 2011, 18:22
waiting on a few parts mike, then the pics will roll, trying to get this back on the road in the next couple off weeks  :cool:
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Post by: Mikester on 19 May 2011, 19:59
waiting on a few parts mike, then the pics will roll, trying to get this back on the road in the next couple off weeks  :cool:

Garrett? FMIC? NOS?
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 19 May 2011, 21:53
How are you gonna be fitting your intercooler and which one are you going for?
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 May 2011, 21:59
its a universal thing, iv already got it, gonna bolt it to that front cross member thing it will be at the bottom of the bumper in the misddle behind them fin things

mike waiting on a engine mount i was wrongly suplied, and deciding on ym exhaust / cat / downpipe set up

this weeknd sees us taking the bits off the valver i need and fitting to the black car, Hydro set up etc

also need to order some polly bushes and a gaitor thats split on my steering rack
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Post by: Horney on 19 May 2011, 22:03
Get the steering rack poly bushes, they make an awesome difference. If you can stitch weld the front wishbones while you have it all in bits as well.

Nick
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 19 May 2011, 22:12
is the fmic the universal 65mm thick ebay jobbie? I'm using this one, been looking for info tonight on ways to move the rad back on the drivers side as it just fouls the fmic by about 5mm or so, which causes it to push against the bumper and so you cant refit it without a lot of trimming. I had to cut all the fins out of mine and it still isnt enough :( Regretting doing it now and have just stuck some black mesh behind it for the time being, gonna have a go at moving the rad on the weekend
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 May 2011, 22:31
ill let you know how i get on with the intercooler and what i come up with need to switch this engine mount as iv been supplied the wrong part :rolleyes:, then i can do a trial fit

Nick will keep that in mind - nice one matey :cool:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 20 May 2011, 00:00
If you can stitch weld the front wishbones while you have it all in bits as well.

Golf3 wishbones less in need of it, IIRC.

TBH having been round Leeds I wouldn't do it, as I'd want to deform a control arm before the sub-frame if I walloped a pothole.  :wink:

If I was re-bushing this car I'd go OEM TBH - poly don't last and often seem to squeak.  Not a good look if you is being a bad-a$$.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 20 May 2011, 00:07
I was always under the impression it was just the mk1's and 2's that needed beefing up in that department as well.
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Post by: Khare on 20 May 2011, 00:15
Glad to see this finally underway Kells :afro: Looking forward to all the updates and pics  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2011, 10:30
cheers guys

DH, the lower suspension arm bushes are worn and a deffo mot fail, i was going to polly these, do you think OEM would be better option for this part ??
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Post by: Wayne on 20 May 2011, 10:53
cheers guys

DH, the lower suspension arm bushes are worn and a deffo mot fail, i was going to polly these, do you think OEM would be better option for this part ??

I would run standard bushes.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 20 May 2011, 13:43
DH, the lower suspension arm bushes are worn and a deffo mot fail, i was going to polly these, do you think OEM would be better option for this part ??

OEM will be better. 

You need to check with some ETKA fetishist to see if the TT bushes fit your control arms.  If they do they will be a better option than poly or OEM as they are solid rubber bonded to the outer and inner steel carriers.
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 May 2011, 13:58
ok cool cheers for that ill look into this
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Post by: tshirt2k on 20 May 2011, 19:17
TT Rear bushes fit.

Part No 8N0 407 181 B
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 May 2011, 01:35
That's something to remember.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 21 May 2011, 01:46
Although I thought the TT shared parts with the mk4 Golf, not the mk3?
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Post by: LowlifeDubber on 21 May 2011, 06:47
Get some pics up mate! :grin:

Interested to see how you mount your intercooler too.Do you reckon you will have to chop much of your bumper up?
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Post by: tshirt2k on 21 May 2011, 17:53
Get some pics up mate! :grin:

Interested to see how you mount your intercooler too.Do you reckon you will have to chop much of your bumper up?


Not if its not properly. Just remove two fins and  a skim of the rest. Involves moving rad back a touch
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Post by: tdi_blu on 21 May 2011, 19:21
Great work mate really moving now this is going to be one sweet mk3 once shes all done ill be watching all your updates  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 May 2011, 20:23
cheers guys more pics soon, today was spent stripping the bits of the ABF car that i need, Black car is now ready for evverything to go back in, just waiting for CAT, downpipe and exhaust to arrive, looking at 2 weeks more build time to see this one back on the road

Sold whats left of the green car today for £500!! :smiley: so that will be gone once iv removed the bits i need, not bad seen as the head gasket completely went on thursday  :grin:
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 21 May 2011, 22:01
Get some pics up mate! :grin:

Interested to see how you mount your intercooler too.Do you reckon you will have to chop much of your bumper up?


Not if its not properly. Just remove two fins and  a skim of the rest. Involves moving rad back a touch

I just spent the day moving my rad back for the intercooler thanks to your build thread :)

Looking forward to more pics :) How did you get on with the throttle pedal? Ben was asking me how I got mine out the other night, told him brute strength and a hacksaw  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 May 2011, 21:12
currently taking the bits off the 16valve GTI i bought which i need for F17BAD.. this should be done in a few days

also cleaned up the inlet manifold and throttle body

from this

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5061/imagedii.jpg)

to this

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/355/imagelvhm.jpg)

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2210/imageogs.jpg)

just need another insert for one of the injectors as i stripped one by accident haha, that should be here tomo..

also done the alterrnator Black like the throttle body

(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6484/imagedxw.jpg)


Its gettign their, engine will be a clean OEM look once complete

next day of work is tuesday evening, removal of gearbox, Hydro set up and Gear linkage from the Valver.. then a quick clean up of these parts and its time to fully rebuild F17BAD, lots of pics to come
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Post by: dom on 22 May 2011, 22:51
Looking good :cool:

What did you use to clean it up?
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 May 2011, 22:56
My hands lol and alot of time

Going for all out OEM look

Engine is uber low miles and it shows. Much easier to clean than my old lump was.

Prefered products are gunk spray and wd40 for plastics and fastners
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Post by: JC on 23 May 2011, 05:48
Prefered products are gunk spray and wd40 for plastics and fastners

Man up and get them whacked in the dishwasher  :shocked: :tongue:

Looking good so far :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 May 2011, 14:09
hahaha Chuff i wanted to use that for some other bits but is is out of order at the mo and awaiting repair  :angry: :angry: :grin:

picked up a few new bits from audi today and got the correct engine mount which i was supplied wrong, engine going in the golf this weekend
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Post by: jonnypolish on 23 May 2011, 14:44
<3 :afro:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 23 May 2011, 20:50
One thing I'd recommend also whilst youre at it, is change to shifter and tower to mk4 style to make everything feel new and more precise.  :wink:
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Post by: Toby on 23 May 2011, 20:52
im lovin how this is going! hayters  :kiss:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 23 May 2011, 21:14
One thing I'd recommend also whilst youre at it, is change to shifter and tower to mk4 style to make everything feel new and more precise.  :wink:

Definitely worth doing whilst it's all apart.
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 May 2011, 21:40
Cheers - anyone ny links on the bits i need..

quick as possible too as i need to get the bits ASAP

also, what bracket do people reccomend (if any) to fit a single boost gauge ? 
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Post by: benvictors on 23 May 2011, 21:44
I know what parts matey, need to get down to that scrappers on Saturday and get on the pilfer  :grin:
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 23 May 2011, 21:45
for the 02j shifter you need the shifter itself with cables and the 02j gearbox tower. Depends on your 02a box wether its a straight swap or not, the 02j tower is a bit thicker than the early 02a but its the same as the late 02a (I think) not sure how to tell which one you have though :P If you have the thinner one you need to fit a bigger thing in your 02a (the name of the bit escapes me at the moment lol)
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Post by: benvictors on 23 May 2011, 21:48
for the 02j shifter you need the shifter itself with cables and the 02j gearbox tower. Depends on your 02a box wether its a straight swap or not, the 02j tower is a bit thicker than the early 02a but its the same as the late 02a (I think) not sure how to tell which one you have though :P If you have the thinner one you need to fit a bigger thing in your 02a (the name of the bit escapes me at the moment lol)

'thing' will do ha ha ha
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 May 2011, 21:49
my gearbox is from a 1997 car. so its a late one.. ill leave this to ben to sort... he loves this sort of sh!t :laugh:
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Post by: benvictors on 23 May 2011, 22:03
my gearbox is from a 1997 car. so its a late one.. ill leave this to ben to sort... he loves this sort of sh!t :laugh:
You knows it  :grin:
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 23 May 2011, 22:54
lol, I like the idea of doing this kinda stuff, but I hate that it always turns out to be a much bigger ball ache than anticipated  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 May 2011, 23:02
hahaha know the feeling mate
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 09:19
A few Links to what's needed but can Be got from scrap cars cheaper. 02j tower from a 5 speed box. 02j 5speed shifter with cables and cable bracket. I would also go for a TT short shift for around £25. Waiting till I'm able to put it all in mine.

02j tower into mk2/mk3 tunnel (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193257)

There is another mod for the housing shown in one of the threads below to get it fitting right in a mk3 without any welding.

02j Tower info (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229024&highlight=02j+tower)

TT short shift info (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230387&highlight=02j+tower)


Car which also have the housing.

Quote from: rubjonny
MK4 style cable shift fitted to:
Polo 95-02 - TDI
Polo classic 00-02 - TDI
Lupo 99-06 -  TDI & 1.6 GTI 16v
Caddy 96-03 - TDI

Ibiza 99-02 - TDI & 1.8T
Arosa 97-04 - TDI
Cordoba 99-02 - TDI & 1.8T
Inca 99-01 - TDI




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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 09:26
Cheers - anyone ny links on the bits i need..

quick as possible too as i need to get the bits ASAP

also, what bracket do people reccomend (if any) to fit a single boost gauge ? 

Depends where you want to mount your gauge. I went dash mount pods and modded them for locations where I wanted them. I didn't want A pillar fast and furious stylee.

Same place where I got my Cat from does this.

(http://www.42draftdesigns.com/images/gaugepanels/mk3single/mk3sgp01.jpg)

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/mk3single.html (http://www.42draftdesigns.com/categories/products/mk3single.html)


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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 09:42
cheers matey will look at those links


cant really use the panel for the gauge tho as i have heated seat switch their

Iv ordered my K04 downpipe and my Jetex system, in talks with the americans about my Cat, iv sent them alot of dimensions so im waiting to see what they come back with...
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Post by: Jack3559 on 24 May 2011, 09:50
I think the gauges look cool in the vents, saw it on a mk4, looked proper sleeper.

(http://www.swgmotorsport.com/asps/uploads/big/159-1.jpg)

For extra cool points, you could put it behind the slats... they look sweet when they're lit up in there.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 11:25
cheers matey will look at those links


cant really use the panel for the gauge tho as i have heated seat switch their


Ok. An alternative  i came up with. holder cost about £4

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/SDC10287.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/SDC10291.jpg)

You can't get this vent pods for the mk3 IIRC

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Post by: Jack3559 on 24 May 2011, 11:54
I'm not sure if you can buy them, but you could certainly DIY them...

Your solution looks pretty cool, but does it disrupt the view of the rest of the clocks?
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 13:41
Ordered my Boost Gauge, its a VDO one.. matches my clocks

was thinking in the vents in the centre consol as i dont use those vents at all, do like how you have done those so may look at this option too:cool:
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Post by: Mikester on 24 May 2011, 13:44
Pics with fruit in to prove this is really happening. lol.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 13:45
ehh ??

their is pics of the car in bits and of the new engine, you want any more proof pm me for my address and get your boney arse over  :grin:
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Post by: Jack3559 on 24 May 2011, 13:46
Pics with fruit in to prove this is really happening. lol.

Birds custard.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 14:05
I'm not sure if you can buy them, but you could certainly DIY them...

Your solution looks pretty cool, but does it disrupt the view of the rest of the clocks?

No. As you look down above them. Everything you need is right infront of you.  :wink:

Picture isn't representing actual view you get.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/SDC10303.jpg)

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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 14:08
think i might do the same mate
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 14:10
Shouldn't be giving all my tricks away.   :laugh:
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Post by: Wayne on 24 May 2011, 14:16

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/SDC10303.jpg)



They look good mounted like that  :smiley:
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Post by: Mikester on 24 May 2011, 14:17
ehh ??

their is pics of the car in bits and of the new engine, you want any more proof pm me for my address and get your boney arse over  :grin:

Was a joke, lol.

I believe its happening just want to see progress in this beast.

I would be a bad influence if i came and looked. lol
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 14:30
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

i need to get it done ASAP mat, about 2 weeks and she will be finished, still working on the 16v car getting bits off that i need then i need to put that back together coz iv already sold it and need rid of it off my drive

trail fit of The S3 lump into F17BAD is this weekend

ben has a few bits to do like mounting brackets for the Audi Accelerator pedal etc and some bits for in the bay, and iv to prepair the abf gearbox too.. gotta loom fresh


still waiting on reply from the states about my cat, other than that we just about have all we need, gonna try use original airbox too for4 the oem feel, plus its close to the turbo so a regualr induction kit is a bad idea, seen a few that relocate but i dont fanc spending another 300 notes right now as im upto the 4k mark..
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 16:06
what are peoples opinion on the shallow sump ?   i want one but i hear they have no provision for a oil level sensor ??
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Post by: dom on 24 May 2011, 16:47
Not a clue about the sump, but i'm liking the idea of the gauges there :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 17:16
yeah deffo the best place for them by the looks of it

*awaits tshirt2k RE sump :smiley:
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Post by: dom on 24 May 2011, 17:18
yeah deffo the best place for them by the looks of it

*awaits tshirt2k RE sump :smiley:

I can't wait to see this up and running! You gonna head to the RR day at The Doc's in October?
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 17:45
im their mate.. might go see that guy before to get this mapped up
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Post by: Bellend on 24 May 2011, 17:45
If you only need one gauge, what about putting it where the hazard switch is, dead in the middle and then using a 3.5 hazard switch which goes with the A/C buttons etc and looks completely OEM?
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Post by: lemski on 24 May 2011, 17:51
Ooooow u'll be at docs would love to see what this pulls on the dyno
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 18:07
If you only need one gauge, what about putting it where the hazard switch is, dead in the middle and then using a 3.5 hazard switch which goes with the A/C buttons etc and looks completely OEM?

an idea i had already mate but the cowling has a atachment pint in the centre so dunno if it will be possible
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 18:09
Ooooow u'll be at docs would love to see what this pulls on the dyno

me too mate, was originally after a reliable 250 hp.. so owt above that is cool for now till i get a limited slip diff... then i wanna do alot more to this engine  :lipsrsealed: :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 24 May 2011, 18:10
More is better in my eyes
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 18:48
yeap haha  :cool:

and this bad boy should help me along the way  :tongue:

(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3011/imagezbi.jpg)
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Post by: golf-sib on 24 May 2011, 19:50
You can get shallow sumps with oil pick up, I remember I was thinking of getting one at a point as I thought I was scraping. All I was smacking was the cat shield  :grin:

All depends how low you are, if its a 40-50mm drop (I'm talking on a mk4, not sure how low the engine would sit in a mk3) then I can't see the point off a shallow sump unless you're silly low.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 May 2011, 19:58

All depends how low you are, if its a 40-50mm drop (I'm talking on a mk4, not sure how low the engine would sit in a mk3) then I can't see the point off a shallow sump unless you're silly low.

Think the same. Your car doesn't look that low TBH. All depends if you want to make the car handle sh*t or not and not be able to make use of all that power. if it becomes a problem, you could always change it after.
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Post by: Wayne on 24 May 2011, 21:14
what are peoples opinion on the shallow sump ?   i want one but i hear they have no provision for a oil level sensor ??

I think you will be fine with a standard sump, try it first and see how low it is.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 21:46
cool will see then

tshirt2k, car is very low - 100mm low or their abouts
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Post by: cняis on 24 May 2011, 22:49
too low and its unusable at speed anyway, unless the road is dead flat and smooth (i.e. race track). No twisty A/B road action for you  :grin:

Higher ride height will generate negative scene points though, which is why i lowered mine a touch recently  :lipsrsealed:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 May 2011, 23:09
she handles how i like it to tbh, but i hear what you say 100%

ill see how the sump sits once  the engine is in the car
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Post by: tech1889 on 24 May 2011, 23:15
Kells great to see progress mate.. coming along nicely.. i missed out on a BAM lump on the bay everything turbo ancillaries etc for £700  :angry: :angry:

What you could do if your worried about running shallow sump and running less oil etc.. why not just remove standard sump and get it plated up with some heavy duty stainless steel then atleast you know you wont crack the sump and will only take chunks out the plated area.. worth a thought  :smiley:

Dan
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Post by: Dmonday on 24 May 2011, 23:43
Great to see progress dude :) hope all goes well!
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 09:07
Kells great to see progress mate.. coming along nicely.. i missed out on a BAM lump on the bay everything turbo ancillaries etc for £700  :angry: :angry:

What you could do if your worried about running shallow sump and running less oil etc.. why not just remove standard sump and get it plated up with some heavy duty stainless steel then atleast you know you wont crack the sump and will only take chunks out the plated area.. worth a thought  :smiley:

Dan


yeah this is a good idea, ill see what clearance is like ;-)

now need a pedal box from the valver, ts too much hassle removing the one from the ABF car i have because iv sold that car and the lad wants to keep it on the road. easiest way is to just buy another Pedal box so hope to sort that todaY!!   we can confirm they are deffo different on 8v and 16v cars, because theirs spot welds on my 8v one meaning you cant change bits on the box!

My K04 downpipe should arrive today as should my Jetex, and the Americans are making me up a Hiflow sports cat with provisions for my Lambda sensors, that should hit my house in about 10 days..

We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.


got a twin fan rad prepaired also and thats going on the black car

other problems we have found is removing the post lambda from the donor cars Exhaust system!!! tried everything, does anybody know if i use my old gti one instead, will that be ok ? it has the same wires just a different conection for the loom but i could swap that easy enough ??


Next day working is saturday, need to fully finish removing bits from the ABF car, and get that off my drive and then prepair the Gearbox from that ready to go in my car, and also fit the new pedal box.. not sure if we will have time to trial fit the S3 lump in my bay like id hoped to
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Post by: tshirt2k on 25 May 2011, 11:09
What are you trying to do with the pedal box? I'm sure all mk3s have provisions to go hydro clutch without removing pedal box. Are you using a mk4 DBW pedal?

Remember this:

Quote from: rubjonny
you need to change:
clutch cable
flywheel
clutch
box
gear shifter & linkages

so its not gonna be a quick job, but entirely doable. the hydro and cable clutch pedal boxes are the same though, so that at least is an easy swap. unbolt hydro master cylinder, fit clutch cable, done.

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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 12:16
using the Seat cupra R DBW pedal

my pedal box is a box section tack welded, its differentt o the one in my 16v car, ill let ben explain it when he come on here

the one in the 16v car has no spring on the clutch pedal, all other pedal boxes iv seen do have this, and to remove the pedal box looks a mare of a job, especially on the 16v car i have because i dont want to remove the engine..

i need to fit my old parts into the 16v car,, or at least cap of the hydro on that car and run cable..
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Post by: benvictors on 25 May 2011, 13:06
pedalbox...
The 8v pedalbox has a bracket spot welded to it for support when the clutch is fully depressed, this bracket has a strut that runs straight across the centre of the hole for the hydro cylinder so without cutting this strut away you can not fit the cylinder. Cutting it away could cause a weakness in the frame of the pedalbox so isnt really an option, also the small square bracket that is on the side of the clutch pedal for the hydro rod is non existant on the 8v.
Whether VW changed this design in later cars i dont know but the box thats in the early spec 8v is definately a no go for the hydro set-up. I will try take some pics on the offending item tonite an post up so everyone can see what im taking about
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 25 May 2011, 13:18
I used my 8v box just took the blank plate off and stuck the cylinder in there, put the clip on the back of the pedal and all was good. Guess I had it easier than I thought  :grin:

Which cat are you going for, the VR6 one with the flange?
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Post by: benvictors on 25 May 2011, 13:21
Yep, Theres no provision for the clip at all and where the blank plate is is where that strut runs, fecking ballache and more expense for Kells but we shall prevail ha ha
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 13:25
americans are making up the Cat to my spec. not pissing about...  No flange on mine that im having made up.

downpipe has arrived from trackslag, fully polished bad boy, much better than qpeng tat (their K04 ones are baba - the flexi part cant move so strains the welds)

Jetex cat back has arrived and so has some other bits


pedal box thing is on my mind.. f**ks sake lol :rolleyes: :grin:

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Post by: Wayne on 25 May 2011, 13:29
So it sounds like the early pedal box is different.

Would it be major work to fit the later box
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Post by: benvictors on 25 May 2011, 13:47
Not MAJOR work, just a ballache, gotta drop the master cylinder in the bay and remove the steering rack from the cab. But, because we are putting the green machine back together we are gonna leave that pedalbox in situe to save time so need to source a valver/vr6 pedalbox.
As it happens it has made life a little easier for the DBW install cos i can integrate the bracket for it into the pedalbox whilst its off the car to get it perfect  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 13:52
dont think so mate, its easier with engine out and dash (how it is at present)but to swap my pedal box for the one on the green car is a mare, so i jut wanna source another hydro box for the black car, and just fit my cable set up, rod exchange etc to the green car.. and plug off the hydro set up (leave it in situ) in the green car 

if all that makes sense
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Post by: robz on 25 May 2011, 13:58
fantastic work buddy!
well happy for ya :)
so glad your getting to do this!!
look forward to seeing this finished, and i wanna vid of you "settling it in" :D
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 14:09
lots of vids and fotos to come :-)
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Post by: pablo64 on 25 May 2011, 15:54
Sounds like the project is well under way and so looking forward to it being finished, few niggles on the way but aint that what its all about, doing something differant, well done kells/ben, keep up the good work
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 18:32
a few new bits turned up

(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1393/imageckz.jpg)

(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2448/imageyanh.jpg)

Cool as new Downpipe

(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7939/imagetzh.jpg)

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5554/imageux.jpg)

Its not Jetex - its just sitting on the box for my new exhaust system:

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6746/imagebgc.jpg)

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9210/imageyxi.jpg)

non resonated, looks great and seems superb quality - hope it lives up to my old magnex

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Post by: robz on 25 May 2011, 18:36
oooo sweet :D
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Post by: Wayne on 25 May 2011, 19:52
 :drool: coming together nicely
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Post by: dom on 25 May 2011, 22:35
I love shiny new parts :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 25 May 2011, 22:37
The Jetex are top quality and quiet. I need to get the non res section on mine to make it a bit meatier.  Alot of people say fit is bad. But that's because they don't fit it properly.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: benvictors on 25 May 2011, 22:51
Well it seems good old VW changed the spec on the pedalboxes from early to late cars  :angry:
Just checked 2 later spec cars and yrs tgey are universal, they have the bracket on the side of tge clutch pedal for the hydro cylinder and no stupid strut across the hole in the bulk head!!
Thankfully CCGTI has a later spec pedalbox we can pilfer, happy days  :grin:
Just need to remove and re-fit into F17BAD now
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 22:53
need it quick as ben jammin... still feel pissed btw  :grin:
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Post by: CCGTI on 25 May 2011, 23:19
told you i come in useful
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Post by: F17BAD on 25 May 2011, 23:25
Very useful mate :-)
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Post by: Wayne on 25 May 2011, 23:36
Well it seems good old VW changed the spec on the pedalboxes from early to late cars  :angry:
Just checked 2 later spec cars and yrs tgey are universal, they have the bracket on the side of tge clutch pedal for the hydro cylinder and no stupid strut across the hole in the bulk head!!
Thankfully CCGTI has a later spec pedalbox we can pilfer, happy days  :grin:
Just need to remove and re-fit into F17BAD now

Interesting info and good result in the end.  :smiley:
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 25 May 2011, 23:40
We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.

Quoted, just for reference.  :grin:
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 26 May 2011, 00:39
We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.

Quoted, just for reference.  :grin:

Lol, love the friendly reminder :) :)
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 09:09
We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.

Quoted, just for reference.  :grin:


 :laugh:  please dont jinks this :grin:,, i should have kept quiet  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 26 May 2011, 09:40
We have alot to do and it is stressfull, but i need this back on the road URGENT BASIS, we have planned to finish it the first week june.

Quoted, just for reference.  :grin:


 :laugh:  please dont jinks this :grin:,, i should have kept quiet  :laugh: :laugh:

Hope you can do it. But it is a bit of a tall order!
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 10:49
been talking to Nick at R Tech, he is telling me i need a Badger5 TIP to get best results, and with this i can expect a genuine 275 / 280 HP

anyone know anything about these or any other TIPs for my engine ?? 
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 17:26
My new bost gauge turned up today - illuminates white. thats will be changed to BLUE to match my dials. best gauge iv seen. Not a fan of the cheapo ones and this matches my Anniversary clocks perfectly

(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5603/imagepqd.jpg)
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Post by: dubsport on 26 May 2011, 17:39
Noice!!!  :cool:

You going to edition38 bud?
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 17:45
when is the date mate ????
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Post by: dubsport on 26 May 2011, 17:46
September 2nd-4th I think bud!
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 17:51
i think ill be their then mate yeap  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 22:15
been messing about with the location for the gauge, couldnt get to love it any place but in theb vent i dont use, so came up with this mock up for now, i can mount it at an angle if need be bt im gonna try it in the car first..

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5898/imagesvg.jpg)

(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3732/imagetj.jpg)
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Post by: Jack3559 on 26 May 2011, 22:16
That looks the f**king business.
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 26 May 2011, 22:21
not too shabby  :cool:

I was just comming in here to ask you where you were gonna mount your guages as I'm on the lookout for some atm, liking the look of that :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 22:23
Cheers  :cool:

im not one for a load of gauges in VWs but the turbo boost one is needed, so i jsut hunted for one that matched my anniversary dials 

VDO do a nice black one too, im gonna swap out the illumination to blue on this
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Post by: tshirt2k on 26 May 2011, 22:23
been talking to Nick at R Tech, he is telling me i need a Badger5 TIP to get best results, and with this i can expect a genuine 275 / 280 HP

anyone know anything about these or any other TIPs for my engine ?? 

Search on cgti shows this.

http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226329 (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226329)
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Post by: F17BAD on 26 May 2011, 22:48
seen that thread, but can i just run a normal silicone TIP ??  nick was telling me the standard one on my engine is very restrictive? i was going to message u about this, Forge have told me they have one for £144 ? 

Bill at Badger5 has told me £205 for one of his

and Iv seen silicone ones as cheap ad £55 + £8 postage on the bay ?? 

what do you think to these?
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Post by: Wayne on 27 May 2011, 00:03
Gauge looks ok, makes use of the vent etc.
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Post by: tech1889 on 27 May 2011, 00:13
badger5 tips are very very highly rated mate.. i had a forge one on mine with no issues.. i think its down to preferance.. also imo do it once do it right.. the cheap silicone pipes have less strength and can delaminate where something like forge or badger5 will not.. im sure someone will pipe up with something to the contrary.. but hey lol

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Post by: LowlifeDubber on 27 May 2011, 06:14
Enjoying reading this mate.Keep up the good work! :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 07:06
A mate of mine had some problems with some forge bits that had split and even had a hole in the IC where it wasnt welded properly. They were causing him various problems until we found them during a leak test. Luckily it was still in the warranty period and they were changed. Usually I'd say you gets what you pay, but I've had no problems with the "cheap" silicone bends I have bought from eBay etc. So I'd be inclined to try them out.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 09:57
nick at r Tech was saying the standard intake pipe is very restrictive, so will a silicone one (of any brand) solve this ??

this is my main question ??

cheers for these replies


RE Vent, ben has make up a metal plate that replaces the vent so i may be using that, ill see  :evil:
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Post by: dubsport on 27 May 2011, 10:00
What turbo are you using mate? Ko3 ko3s? If you are I wouldn't bother with a silicone tip, don't think our pea shooters create enough boost to make the tip distort shape and make it restrictive :D
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 10:35
Mate iv got a S3 engine which is going to be mapped soon as it's in my car, turbo is K04
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 10:54
I suppose as long as you can get one with a 3" bore. It should be ok. The extra cost for the others may not be justified.
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Post by: Rhyso on 27 May 2011, 10:59
nick at r Tech was saying the standard intake pipe is very restrictive, so will a silicone one (of any brand) solve this ??

this is my main question ??

cheers for these replies

Yes it will - that's why these aftermarket products exist  :wink:
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Post by: dubsport on 27 May 2011, 11:02
Mate iv got a S3 engine which is going to be mapped soon as it's in my car, turbo is K04

haha really should read previous post  :embarassed:

Definitely looming forward to seeing this at edition mate!
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 11:13
nice one matey :-)

had a test on the illumination of the dials, got a perfect match on my clocks as these are the very same leds haha, just need to mount them correct and then Bob is your auntys brother


(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7348/imagencq.jpg)
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 11:15
Uprate the TIP, reasons are straight forward

Aftermarket ones gradually drop from 3" to 2" which us a smoother transition and aids the airflow. OEM one drops halfway too 2" and it is restrictive in terms of how it bends and reduces.

As for aftermarket, I'd head for the cheaper ones, even the eBay £90 by various motorsport companies are good. They are made in coupled silicone which is 3-5ply, on TIPs its usually 4-5ply making it difficult to bend, collapse or cave in, even under stress and vacuum. I have used 3ply silicone and that refuses the bend, so imagine what an extra layer or 2 would do.

Its not like vacuum silicone which will collapse easy as the diameter increases.

But I can't imagine how the badger5 would be superior, as I have never dealt or used there products.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 11:28
cheers mate, really appreciate thast reply, emailed a guy on ebay about one, want a black one idealy but blue would be good also, so ill see what he has, his price is 54 quid plus 8 postage!

Back on to the gauge, Ben has come up with this which i love

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6295/imagedky.jpg)

He has done it so it points towards me unlike the other way which is in the vent and does not direct the driver of the car
Will finish it with some black finish or carbon and see how it looks

what do we all think?
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Post by: Wayne on 27 May 2011, 11:33
Wrap it in carbon and it will be great.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 11:36
Wrap it in carbon and it will be great.

you are on the same level as me mate, just orederd some more of the 3m carbon fibre :cool:
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 11:37
No problem, I've had forge and two ebay TIPs in front of me, one was demon motorsports and then another brand. They where cheaper in price but quality was near enough the same so I can't justify the price of another product for the sake of a Nike tick.

Go black it makes sense, I had my engine in all blue and absuletely hated it and redone it all back to black for a OEM look.

What you doing with the IC's?
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 11:58
he only has a blue one ??  rest of the bay is black, even got new engine cover with the all silver writing to get rid of the RED 5V TURBO bit on the S3 ones

IC?  do you mean intercooler ?
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 12:17
Yep Intercooler
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 27 May 2011, 12:19
could wrap the blue tip in black silicone tape :P

Black is  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 12:40
iv got a front mount IC, which we are gonna fab up the piping, will use Black hoses on here where we need to. i want the cooler to fit a certain way, basically no modding of the bumper fins if possible.

using a twin rad fan off my valver that had aircon
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 27 May 2011, 12:47
Check out tshirt2k build thread on cgti to see how he moved his rad back so he could fit the cooler without modding the bumper, wish I'd seen it before I butchered mine up  :sad:

Pics in my thread on how I did it as well but they probably better in his thread
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 12:48
iv got a front mount IC, which we are gonna fab up the piping, will use Black hoses on here where we need to. i want the cooler to fit a certain way, basically no modding of the bumper fins if possible.

using a twin rad fan off my valver that had aircon

If you want no cutting of the fins, you will need to mod the panel like dan_GTI8v.

Edit: Beat me to it
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 13:03
i have no air con so im hoping that gives me a little more room to play with
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 13:05
Sounds good, I found Toyosports do good pipe kits for £80 and I still have pipes left. It comes with good clamps and silicone bits to join.

You got a beading tool or will you make the pipes then get them beaded. If its the second then most machine shops use a hydraulic beader, careful with these as if you are using alluminium pipe the can easily crack the pipes quite easily.

Have some hairspray handy, it helps the pipes slide in when wet, as it drys it makes the surface rough between the pipe and silicone reducing the chance off it popping off. A lot of garages do this except hairspray will not damage the engine in anyway.

Also you going 2" or 2.5" in piping.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 13:07
iv seen those kits and was looking for them the other day in their shop ?

which IC have you got ?


not sure what size mi IC is, ill have to check that..
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 27 May 2011, 13:13
I removed the aircon from mine, my IC is 65mm thick which is the thickness I see on most universal coolers, I had to move the rad back around 10-15mm to get the cooler behind the slam panel so it cleared the bumper and thats with the fins cut out

Think you will have a hard job making it all fit without either cutting the bumper or moving the rad back  :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 13:55
ill do it, seen others with the fins, the fins have to stay so fingers cossed
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Post by: golf-sib on 27 May 2011, 14:30
I know ko4 has 51/52mn inlet (2"). I just bought a 2" pipe kit off them (as ko3 inlets are more less the same). Search "it has begun" in mk4 section to see my build.

Also you can buy a beading tool for pipes upto 2.5" for £90 that you can use in a vice. which I was recommended on the locost forums and tbh very chuffed with.

As for the IC, toyosports do a 1.8T intercooler for the A4. This FMIC is only 51mm thick with 51mm inlets, which is what I used and ordered seperately. Afterwards I wrapped all my pipes up to reduce heatsoak effects. If you want to reduce trim put the Rad back with some spacers. Other people have put the IC very close to the to the Rad (a few mm. ) and stick some foam or other heat resistive material so the IC and Rad don't touch.

Also measure the TB to see what size reducer you would need, mine was 50>60mm on AGU, you may get away with reusing some off the standard silicone that's already there by cutting it up
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 16:43
For your engine you will need 2.25" or 57mm pipe. That will support ~ 300-320hp. Any smaller can cause a restriction. Any larger can slow airspeed(spool time) And have as few bends as poss. Depends what pipe you get regarding beads. Because of the need to weld with a mig, I chose stainless but the need for beads were apparent recently due to leaks. So I made my own with rings of tube.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/tshirt2k/16vt%20project/d42f4bb8.jpg)

As mentioned, unless your ic is very thin. (It shouldnt be small for the amount of power you hope to run) You will need to move rad back to keep fins untouched. Regardless of having AC or not. The drivers side of the rad is angled forward so reduces gap between rad and crossmember.
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Post by: F17BAD on 27 May 2011, 17:14
great info guys

need to sort the tubing out, tshirt what do u actually recommend ?? my IC is the same as Dans
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Post by: tshirt2k on 27 May 2011, 17:59
great info guys

need to sort the tubing out, tshirt what do u actually recommend ?? my IC is the same as Dans

Recommend , as in what? Size, material?
Look at the boost run on mine, it will be very similar to your layout. Due to using TT/S3/cupra inlet.  I used 57mm stainless tube. I also used a toyosport ebay IC . Going too large on the tube can be harder to run due space needed.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 May 2011, 12:21
did you use the tubing that came with the IC ??
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Post by: tshirt2k on 28 May 2011, 15:07
No. Didn't buy a kit. Bought all bits separate due to not wanting be left with any bends etc that I didn't need. Plus stainless was easier for me to work with.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 May 2011, 18:58
think im gonna do same, make our own pipes up

couple more bits collected today from dealer

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4665/imageyod.jpg)

but most part of day was spent with ben removing ABF Gearbox and sh!t and replacing it all with the 8v set up

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5492/imagetcw.jpg)

here she is, awaiting the magic treatment from me, which im gonna start after my tea

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1949/imagebrq.jpg)

more work tomo - gotta get green car built back up because its sold
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 28 May 2011, 19:14
what u doing to the gearbox? rebuilding it your self? :) how much work is involved in that..

god speed........
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 May 2011, 20:57
we are doing everything ourself

gearbox will look like new once done... :cool:

as for rebuilding gearboxes you can buy a kit for about 90 quid
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Post by: golf-sib on 29 May 2011, 11:20
Here's the tool I used:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pipe-Tube-Beading-Tool-/190529519802?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c5c71c0ba

Its designed for pipes upto 2.5", brilliant tool, you use it in a vice. The bead is down to you how much you want it pressed, big lip or just a bulge as your in the control of the vice. Its fine to use on stainless piping, as I cut down one off the standard stainless pipes and beaded it to have an additional T-piece rather than buying odd bits that I could save money on (same thing you can do with the standard silicon, slice it up into pieces, lengths or angles you may need, its money in your pocket). Also the 18 swg thickness limitation can be ignored for alluminium due to it being softer and I succeeded on a bigger swg size in aluminum pipes to bead.

Here's the device in action:
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/FMIC/FMIC13.jpg)
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/FMIC/FMIC14.jpg)

The t-piece in stainless I was on about:
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/FMIC/FMIC21.jpg)

The lip it produces:
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/FMIC/FMIC15.jpg)

You doing any thing additional like catch can install, making additional brackets, cleaning injectors?

Hope this helps
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Post by: F17BAD on 29 May 2011, 12:43
Ben is gonna fab up some brakets we will need for certain stuff yeah

Injectors cleaning ?  what do you mean sent away to be cleaned. If so i dontthink dso the engine is less than 40k and they look brand new do the injectors

Gearbox has come up well, its had a recent rebuild so i wont need to do that  :smiley:, jsut gotta paint it up now but thats a job for tomorrow because im DJ'ing at a courtyard event at 2 o clock then off out for tea with the other half

Will pop up pics of the gearbox tomo once iv finished with it   :cool:

that tool looks wicked mate. where are you from ??

wi
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Post by: golf-sib on 29 May 2011, 14:17
I'm from kent/london really, the thing says northfleet but I'm around the wellin/ bexleyheath dare DA16/DA9 as I have not yet moved house yet.

Try registering to a locost/kit car forum such as this: http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/

The guys on there have a wealth off knowledge and will help out majorly with a few beer tokens if they are local.

I have a cheap ultrasonic cleaner, my engines only now upto 75k and the idle feels smoother after the clean, the lads on the audisport forum are on this and are seeing improvements in idle and response on engines as little as 50k... But I'm no expert, while its out why not give it a clean and you can inspect the o-rings as well. I had two nasty o-rings on my injectos when I first took them out at 65k so it does not hurt to have a look I suppose.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 29 May 2011, 16:32
Sexy tool.  :smiley:
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Post by: Mikester on 01 June 2011, 00:07
Update required i think, its been a few days.
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Post by: benvictors on 01 June 2011, 08:50
I'll do a quick update then  :wink:
The green machine is pretty much all back together now and ready for shipping off to Kells' mate, just got the gear linkage to fidlle with an thats done.
We are waiting on the cat to turn up from America and then thats pretty much everything we need to start putting F17BAD back together, gotta go grab some clips, hoses etc for the install but allthe major parts are just sat waiting. Im on with the fabrication of the pedal box as we spk, gonna install a new bracket to the box for the DBW pedal then spray it all up black to keep with the OEM feel. Ive a few more brackets to make for the bay, one for the relocation of the expansion tank and one for the relocation of the carbon filter, me and Kells didnt like the idea of venting the petrol fume line to atmosphere so the carbon canister stays.
Work starts Sunday on the proper install so expect lots and lots of pics and maybe even the odd vid of our progress  :wink:
Im sure I will have left some bits out so il let Kells jump in on that.
EXCITING  :laugh:
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Post by: robz on 01 June 2011, 08:54
was the clutch the wrong way round out of interest??
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 13:58
was the clutch the wrong way round out of interest??


letting my mate sort it but yea, we have run out of time to be messing with the green dragon so its built back up and looks like a car again

im currently messing with some wiring in prep for this weekend shindig which will hopefully see F17BAD back together, got loads to do, seems unreal TBH because this is going to be my ultimate MK3 Golf... 

On a side note, EDD who is an absolute Legend (you know who you are - and i know you will be reading this)  has sorted me out a set of uber rare Anniversary 16v clocks out of his very own car, which have the all importand 160MPH readout.. this means i can have my dials the same as ever but only with the correct reading for the engine as the S3 has 160 mph clocks too

Thanks mate - you know how important the dials are to me  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: dom on 01 June 2011, 18:39
Glad to hear good progress is being made! Looking forward to seeing some updates over the weekend, this is gonna be one hell of a car when finished :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 20:57
Cheers mate

Gearbox is all ready now

From this

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1949/imagebrq.jpg)

to this

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3503/imagezgh.jpg)

to this - Satin Black

(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7276/imagedvj.jpg)

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2152/imagexdc.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5167/imageuac.jpg)

Really pleased with this. brand new VR6 clutch is to go in with this too

Some of the other bits iv taken from the 16valve GTI i bought for bits are the Twin rad fans which iv cleaned up and fitted my recently new Rad to

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7405/imageelwx.jpg)

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7540/imagevxw.jpg)

and the rear under cover - dont see many of these!!!

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5903/imageufy.jpg)

and now i have 2 x under engine covers, the 16 valve one has a slightly bigger hole so ill keep the one which i can get to fit my S3 lump

(other is going to Ben so dont bother asking for it haha :grin:)

(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7667/imagexao.jpg)

and this which iv never ever seen on a GTI before - Sump protector :cool: :cool: think this is why the 16v undercover has a slightly larger hole for the sump, hope i can get this to fit the S3 Sump

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9259/imagedc.jpg)

(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4549/imagebm.jpg)
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 01 June 2011, 21:42
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9259/imagedc.jpg)

I had one of these fitted to my valver up until Monday when mine decided to fly off on the M2 at 70 mph  :wink: The noise it made beneath my car was truly horrific and sh!t the life out of my girlfriend and son. I pulled over to retrieve it but the bastard thing is now smashed.  :sad:
It must have been due to the fact i haven't got my under full under engine cover attached at the moments due to doing some work recently and t6hen the fact it went into have the geometry set up on Saturday so I reckon one of the useless monkey twa@ts have knocked it loose.  :angry:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 01 June 2011, 21:44
Still got this one though.  :smiley:

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5903/imageufy.jpg)
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 01 June 2011, 21:46
Coming along nicely Mr Kells. Do miss my '3
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 21:48
Joe - been a while mate, hope you are well..

all going well, glad you have seen this, was meaning to get in touch  :cool:

thai wronghorse, they seem to only fit with a little plastic pin those sump guards, i think if i use it i will fit it in place a better way
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 01 June 2011, 21:53
Yea man things are good, haven't been on here in months due to work and now having a social life lol but just came into some money so been browsing the classifieds to see what I can treat myself to as it's my 21st birthday next month. Think I saw something about an S3 lump on facebook though so thought I'd check out your thread :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 21:55
Be good to see you back in a 3 mate, a VR or something :-)

have you sold the bora ?  or are you thinking of a second car  :smiley:
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 01 June 2011, 22:11
Will never sell the Bora, love it too much. The birds love it cus they think it's a drug dealers car and the lads love it cus it's not a chavved up Mk4

Wouldn't mind another '3. Got insurance quote on a VR, £1300 :/ Would be a long term project though so insurance wouldn't matter for at least a couple of years. Nearly had myself a Polo 6n the other day in exchange for a set of AMG reps I bought for £60 :tongue: but traded them for £200 cash instead cus a Polos too small for me :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 June 2011, 22:20
should get a VR mate as a project, glad u still got ya bora its a good un
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Post by: VR6-Joe on 01 June 2011, 22:49
Shame really, dads would have been perfect as it already had FK coilovers and a Jetex exhaust but he sold it a couple of months back for £500 :sad: Saying that though I think the head gasket was on its way out :tongue: I'll post up a pic of the Bora in my thread :)
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Post by: benvictors on 03 June 2011, 12:02
Quick update before the real work starts on Sunday  :grin:
As you already know the pedalboxes are different in the early 8v's and aren't possibl to use for the hydro clutch set-up, heres a pic from the engine side of the bulk head through the hole the hydro clutch cylinder would fit
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0684.jpg)
As you can see there is bracket running straight across the hole = TW4T
But, F17BAD's pedalbox is out now -
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0689.jpg)
And the new pedalbox with DBW pedal should be all done by tomorrow morn

Whilst the steering column was out (Gotta come out for pedalbox removal) we decided to upgrade to a newer, adjustable one
New vs old
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0687.jpg)
Stripped em both down
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0690.jpg)
And re-built
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0691.jpg)

Just to be another pain in the arse, the early 8v's had a different brake fluid reservoir, ALL the late models had the same one with a stem off the bottom end for hydro clutch, if on a late 8v it had a sealed end.
The early 8v's didnt have this stem at all, AND, the threads for the solid brake lines were smaller = TW4T
This meant we had to use the original reservoir bracket (the black one for the smaller threads) and the newer reservoir itself (the shiny lookin one with the stem off the side
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0685.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0686.jpg)

The UJ boot was completely fooked
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0692.jpg)
so Brad's ordered a new un from VW, £20 with VAT, should be here in the morn.

Thats about it for now kids, expect lots and lots and lots more from Sunday, woop  :laugh:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 June 2011, 12:06
Good bit of progress there... That last pic looks like what happened to mine, manifold burn.  Make sure the next one is wrapped.
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Post by: F17BAD on 04 June 2011, 21:00
Very quick update before the big work starts on the full rebuild tomorrow..

The ultra rare and hard to find 160 MPH Anniversary dials arrived today (Biggest thanks ever go to Edd for sorting these out for me and helping make this car my perfect MK3)

Within 5 minutes of the postman knocking on the door i had these bad boys in bits, like my other set of annie dials these were the later type with fully soldered and sealed chip LEDS for the displays

Proper pics of thes eat night will come at the end of the build but they are converted and awaiting mileage correction - im so happy i have these because i loved my old annie dials but the 140 mph readout was just not enough for this build

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6548/imagefyn.jpg)

Back to Blue - notice the Chip Leds.. these are the ones that take quite some doing to convert

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4418/imagetka.jpg)

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1439/imageuyk.jpg)

Here you see the 140 MPH versions next to the 160 MPH versions

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1296/imagehss.jpg)

Also did the final prep of the bay

(http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/4351/imagevtw.jpg)

got the loom all ready to go back in with Audi S3 ECU

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7488/imagejfe.jpg)

and began to tidy up wires in the car, this is a mid way through shot... many many wires needed to be removed for old sh!t the car has had in its previous life

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1615/imagextr.jpg)


More to come tomorrow
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Post by: dazzawest1987 on 04 June 2011, 21:09
Good work kells been looking for one of those instrument packs aswell, hope allgoes to plan Tomoz mate
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Post by: Wayne on 04 June 2011, 21:30
Great work so far :afro:
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Post by: pablo64 on 04 June 2011, 22:57
 looking good kells, cant wait to this finished  :smiley:  :cool:
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Post by: cняis on 05 June 2011, 01:31

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1615/imagextr.jpg)


I know your pain right now  :undecided:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 08:37
Yes Chris I saw yours and I was going to give u a comment wishing you luck haha :laugh: it's no fun is it :laugh:
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Post by: Toby on 05 June 2011, 08:58
Can't wait till tonight :)
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Post by: CCGTI on 05 June 2011, 17:08
Looking good lads
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Post by: benvictors on 05 June 2011, 19:47
Update.....
Yesterday Morn I cracked on with the pedalbox bracket
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0696.jpg)

The stem off the back of the new bracket screws into the car once the box is in situ
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0695.jpg)

Put a bolt on the back of the pedal to take the force when at full throttle
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0698.jpg)

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0697.jpg)

And in the car
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0701.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0700.jpg)

Installed the new adjustable steering column
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0703.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0702.jpg)

Fitted all the hydro clutch set-up and the new engine mounts today also, had to drill a hole for the cable change shifter box to fit properly, as always my measurements were bang  :rolleyes: on so it looks factory  :cool:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0704.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0705.jpg)

Got the loom in and started putting the inside back together, think Brad has more piccy's so I'll let him post some shizzle up  :grin:
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Post by: tdi_blu on 05 June 2011, 19:50
Great work Kell fair play looks like its going to be a quality conversion  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 20:07
finished for today, engine will be in the bay tomo,

today we have

fitted full hybrid OEM loom

(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1871/imagepbg.jpg)

(http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/4610/imagenklj.jpg)

fitted the Hydro set up

Fitted all gear linkage

fitted Bens Hybrid Pedal box with the S3 pedal

Had the Anniversary 160 MPH clocks mileage corrected

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5364/imageabi.jpg)

fitted the full interior apart from drivers seat and middle vents (where the boost gauge will live)

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7798/imagekhg.jpg)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1098/imagetyy.jpg)

Removed and refitted both front suspension bottom arms and fitted new bushes

OLD

(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/7480/imagefyp.jpg)

NEW

(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/549/imagegu.jpg)

Rain stopped play  (we are doing this outside)

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6812/imagescp.jpg)

Tomo the Engine says hello to F17BAD

How the car stands right now

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7679/imagekvz.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7639/imagevxmg.jpg)

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Post by: Wayne on 05 June 2011, 20:42
Excellent progress :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 20:55
Very good day had today

Also - The Green dragon MK3 16valver that i took the bits i needed from was sold and picked up today.. so i no longer have to worry about that.. My mate has bought it and is going to have the head gasket fixed  :cool:
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Post by: cняis on 05 June 2011, 21:38
Finished by friday then :afro:  :grin:

Seriously though good work
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Post by: snifferdog on 05 June 2011, 21:42
Excellent work!  :cool:

Cant believe that Ive only just realised its a 5 door. :grin: :grin: :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 21:44
Finished by friday then :afro:  :grin:

Seriously though good work

should be finished by then mate, i hope so anyhow

cheers, how is your dash coming on ?


@ Snifferdog, many people fail to spot this too  :grin:
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Post by: archie837 on 05 June 2011, 21:49
Mate you're making fantastic progress, well impressed!

Wish the rod would crack on this fast! Too much welding bits to see a difference at the moment.
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 21:53
tomo (monday) will see engine in the car all been well  :cool:
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Post by: robz on 05 June 2011, 22:07
well done pal!!
you got a proper 5 door one, a lesson people :D
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Post by: dom on 05 June 2011, 22:27
Great work guys, I bet your pretty damn excited about it being finished! Hell i'm excited for you! :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 05 June 2011, 22:32
very very excited Dom..

this is a built car and not bought and we are doing it to a very high standard on my drive with no special tools etc.. and no garage either :grin:

This is our very first engine conversion. im proud of the work thats been done.. it is all top notch

 iv learnt one thing, early mk3 is alot different to late ones  :grin: had to swap out a load of parts. this car is basically getting fully rebuilt!!!!

Its cost me ££££ to do this to the standard i want to but i think its gonna be worth it. Cant wait to drive it. see if it puts a bigger smile on my face than my Swift GTI ever did (that will take some doing)
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 06 June 2011, 07:15
Good work mate! Looking fwd to seeing it in the flesh/metal at some point! :)
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Post by: sharki786 on 06 June 2011, 11:26
 :wink: loving the build. it WILL put a big smile on your face, the MACHINE you are building to your own taste!
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 June 2011, 13:00
Fantastic progress and some great new parts fitted/replaced well so far.

Crunch time looks like it's only round the corner! :afro:
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Post by: Mikester on 06 June 2011, 16:37
Hope all of this rain hasnt dampened the progress. Its been pouring all day here!
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Post by: cняis on 06 June 2011, 18:09
Cue the youtube video showing the engine running minus the exhaust  :grin:

Every engine swap thread has one!
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 19:00
The engine is now in the bay

todays works

prep final bits of engine, including fitment of new VR6 Clutch, Gearbox, silicone TIP and part of my custom stainless downpipe

We had alot of running about to do inbetween all this lot too regarding some tool bits we needed to buy and a visit to a place that does silicone hosing etc (we will be going back their tomo)

anyhow her is some pics from today

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4624/imagetdm.jpg)

removed air con of S3 lump

(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/6752/imageeez.jpg)

S3 flywheel v ABF 16v flywheel

(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3285/imagefllk.jpg)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9853/imagelyh.jpg)

(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5029/imageanq.jpg)

Engine meets gearbox

(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2738/imagebx.jpg)

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5766/imageael.jpg)

had to change rear mount on engine for the ABF part

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9274/imagecvt.jpg)

time for the engine to see its new home

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8127/imagebyl.jpg)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1118/imagexgv.jpg)

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9343/imageiwa.jpg)
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 19:03
(http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/6522/imagetkq.jpg)

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4238/imagevtb.jpg)

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2489/imageeoq.jpg)

Here you can see part of my downpipe

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/4441/imagewibq.jpg)

Tried the Engine cover, make sure it does not hit the bonnet :-)

(http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/1962/imageay.jpg)


tomo will bolt rest of engine parts on and plug all the wiring in

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Post by: JC on 06 June 2011, 19:04
most excellent progress.  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 19:06
cheers matey
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Post by: pablo64 on 06 June 2011, 19:10
thats looking good , looks OEM just what you want eh kells, nice job your doing
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Post by: lemski on 06 June 2011, 19:12
Good work mate
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 06 June 2011, 19:22
Wow! Nice one mate! Awesome! Looks to be a very full bay now! Not like the old 8v :) where u might fall in, lol
Bet ur getting rather giddy now! Can just imagine that first turn of the key and She fires up! Wish I could be there!

Enjoy mate!
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 19:27
i must admit im getting excited, changed all the insurance over today, every single modification is declaired..

looking forward to getting this project finished  (for now)

got loads more plans, car does not really need it (apart from stone chips to the front) but my mate who owns the bodyshop wants to put his stamp on the car and is wanting to give it a full new coat of paint ... so ill see  :laugh:

i also want some different breaks and some other bits and bobs...

but firs tup will be a remap, prob end of the month when iv got some more cash  :grin:
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Post by: Rhyso on 06 June 2011, 20:00
Looks half tidy like  :tongue:
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Post by: robz on 06 June 2011, 20:34
congrats mate, pulling a cracker out of the bag for the mk3 lads!!
looks a tight fit on there however!
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Post by: dom on 06 June 2011, 20:49
(http://www.favstocks.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/2011/05/37f46-facebook-like-icon.jpg)
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Post by: Junior74 on 06 June 2011, 21:25
Awesome mate!!
Just read through this thread, i'm hooked and insanely jealous, AMAZING!!!!!
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Post by: Wayne on 06 June 2011, 21:29
Awesome, looks really oe with the cover. :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 21:55
OEM is the look im going for with this engine, wanted to use original airbox too but its a bit too large and looks ugly in the bay due to clearance. so its induction kit and headshield thats going to be going on once it arrives (just orederd it)
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Post by: Jack3559 on 06 June 2011, 22:04
Is there no room for a mk3 air box?

That'd keep it OE.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:11
Is there no room for a mk3 air box?

That'd keep it OE.

far too small intake for a start, then its at wrong side of engine too...

my main priority is the engine can breathe right, so im going my trusted K&N induction route, this time with a heatsheild  :cool:
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 22:11
Is there no room for a mk3 air box?

That'd keep it OE.

vr6 airbox maybe thought that was 3"
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:15
 Vr box is no way near as big as the S3 one by look of it - and its wrong side of engine... so mk3 box is deffo out the window

plus i have my K&N on its way (TBH its my favoured route as they have never let me down)

just need uprated diverter valve now
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 22:20
Vr box is no way near as big as the S3 one by look of it - and its wrong side of engine... so mk3 box is deffo out the window

plus i have my K&N on its way (TBH its my favoured route as they have never let me down)

just need uprated diverter valve now

You going forge route and you relocating the DV the same way there aftermarket kits do?
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Post by: Toby on 06 June 2011, 22:21
Lobe this!! Cracking progress

Hatres still hating?
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:23
golf - sib, i wanna keep it in factory location really. but would like a forge DV

Toby, seems to have calmed down lately hehe :smiley:
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 22:33
golf - sib, i wanna keep it in factory location really. but would like a forge DV

Toby, seems to have calmed down lately hehe :smiley:

The DV relocated will not look out of place depending how you do it, I need to get a picture off mine up and show you with a black forge 007p DV, won't be much extra while your doing the custom pipework for the FMIC... Just keeping options and idea's open.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:36
why would i need to re locate it tho ?

plus i have realised i dont need to do much pipe work for my FMIC, with having the S3 enginbe, i have the main charge pipe fron the turbo already present, i just need to fab up the bits that go down from this to the IC and then on the otherside a short bit from the IC to the TB (which on mine is located on the left of the bay)
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 22:40
DV recirculated air after the turbo back to the intake, the turbo offcourse warms the air up due to the heat involved. Most people relocate the DV after the intercooler so it recirculates cooler air back into the system. Seems a popular mod on the other side off the Atlantic.
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Post by: F17BAD on 06 June 2011, 22:42
ahh makes sense. everyday is a school day  :cool:

will consider this
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Post by: tech1889 on 06 June 2011, 23:29
re-locating makes no difference what so ever.. speak to any tuner and they will say the same.. the only difference is you can see it after relocation for some people this earns scene points maybe ??
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Post by: Bellend on 06 June 2011, 23:30
Perfect, simple.  :cool:
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Post by: golf-sib on 06 June 2011, 23:38
In theory it works and helps, but I doibt it's nothing you will feel in the real world. Never hurts though especially when it can be done easily and cheaply.
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 June 2011, 12:14
Toby, seems to have calmed down lately hehe :smiley:

You have a collection of parts at the moment.

Let's see it running, eh?

Coating the gearbox in paint was a stupid idea.  It will retain heat more than the bare casing, which may well reduce the life of the 'box.

If there hadn't been endless wittering about this for about two years before anything happened it wouldn't have attracted such derision.
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Post by: cняis on 07 June 2011, 13:24
Toby, seems to have calmed down lately hehe :smiley:

You have a collection of parts at the moment.

Let's see it running, eh?

Coating the gearbox in paint was a stupid idea.  It will retain heat more than the bare casing, which may well reduce the life of the 'box.

If there hadn't been endless wittering about this for about two years before anything happened it wouldn't have attracted such derision.

Can't you just be nice for a change?  :rolleyes:
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Post by: robz on 07 June 2011, 14:01
But think how nice the box looks :D
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Post by: lemski on 07 June 2011, 14:50
Think how nice the whole car will be
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Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 June 2011, 19:55
Can't you just be nice for a change?  :rolleyes:

I am.
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Post by: benvictors on 07 June 2011, 19:58
Can't you just be nice for a change?  :rolleyes:

I am a knob
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Post by: Sam on 07 June 2011, 20:10
This is pretty nice for MR Hell if you read back a few months in the thread haha
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Post by: robz on 07 June 2011, 20:11
ive seen worse dh comments :D
we running yet kells :D
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Post by: Mikester on 07 June 2011, 20:12
Pretty sure there needs to be an update today...
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Post by: cняis on 07 June 2011, 20:12
Well Mr Hell we all know, deep down, that 99.9% of what you say is true. However there are ways of saying it! Constructive and Destructive criticism yada yada... nevermind.

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Post by: golf-sib on 07 June 2011, 20:16
I thought only what he says is right, even when he said he liked men  :undecided:


 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 June 2011, 20:18
Cheers guys for positive comments, means a hell of alot to me because this is going to be my perfect Golf 3 GTI built to the spec i want

anyhow today we got the full loom hooked up, this took a bit of doing as some of the plugs needed swapping over etc and we wanted a factory finish and look in the bay

we had to modify where the wires route, think ben has those pictures so im sure he will upload that lot

we also built up the rest of the engine, we are really close now to finishing this and im so happy.. also happy i dont have to spend much more because its cost ££££ so far

We also got the Intercooler piping sorted - ben did a wicked job of that, perfect!!!,

we flipped the rad on the golf too and modified my slam panel to suit this modification, we did this because the piping on the S3 engine is on the otherside to what my golfs was

My twin rad fan was modified lots to do the mods we wahted and keep a factory look

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9843/imageaxh.jpg)

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8007/imagewso.jpg)

then we got on with the IC

Here is how the pipes join the cooler:

(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/470/imageqcmf.jpg)

(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/6829/imagewygm.jpg)

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9767/imagefszz.jpg)

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/362/imageich.jpg)

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6223/imageqvd.jpg)

(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4025/imagevrl.jpg)

did loads of other niggly little jobs, tomo we have a couple of plugs to add to the loom and one to extend. boost gauge to fit and induction kit.. Plus new diverter Valve if it arrives

Will also give the engine and box new oil, sparkplugs and other service parts and then we will turn the key and see if it lives

My cat has not arrived from USA yet so im still waiting on that

anyhow, its looking good

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2724/imagezfq.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7648/imagejog.jpg)

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2598/imageangs.jpg)
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Post by: cняis on 07 June 2011, 20:22
Good news :afro:
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Post by: robz on 07 June 2011, 20:23
You two need a serious man hug for the effort there! Thumbs up guys
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Post by: jamrock on 07 June 2011, 20:32
now that is top notch kells.  :smiley:

5dr mk3 s3!!!! never thought i would like such a combo, but i do!!  :laugh:

really top work so far fella, make sure you get a video up of it running
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Post by: F17BAD on 07 June 2011, 20:40
Cheers for the replies guys  :smiley:
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Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 07 June 2011, 20:41
Not checked up on this for around a week, pretty f**king good progress made!

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Post by: CCGTI on 07 June 2011, 20:56
looking spot on, bring on the test drive
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Post by: pablo64 on 08 June 2011, 09:05
this is looking wicked cant wait for a vid of it running, nice one
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Post by: *tell* on 08 June 2011, 09:24
looking good  :wink:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 08 June 2011, 14:44
All of sudden this looks like it's really moving now... looking great so far.. when do you think you'll be up and running again?
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 June 2011, 19:25
All of sudden this looks like it's really moving now... looking great so far.. when do you think you'll be up and running again?


Had full day on it today everything g is just about done although still waiting on my custom ct from USA

Finished the wiring, fitted a forge DV and the K&N, serviced the engine and tried to fire her up, it turned over but I'm getting no spark at the plugs, need to hook up to vag com but can't find my lead ARGGHHHH!!!!
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Post by: JC on 08 June 2011, 19:38
now the fun begins  :laugh: good look with the lecktrickery  :evil:
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Post by: F17BAD on 08 June 2011, 20:42
cheers LOL :grin: will hook it up to my mates vagcom later tonight if he makes it, if not it will be tomo

Got the Jetex system offered up to the car (minus the cat) and thats looking good.
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Post by: Jimp on 08 June 2011, 22:25
This is progressing so fast  :shocked: Last time I checked the thread you had just bought the engine  :grin: It's going to be seriously sweet when it's up and running :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 18:57
ITS ALIVE

Got it running today and im over the fooking moon, it sounds AWESOME!!!!


videos to come soon!!!!!
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Post by: dom on 09 June 2011, 18:58
ITS ALIVE

Got it running today and im over the fooking moon, it sounds AWESOME!!!!


videos to come soon!!!!!

Wahoo!! Nice one!! :cool:
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Post by: lemski on 09 June 2011, 19:13
Sweet mate well done
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Post by: Khare on 09 June 2011, 19:16
Kells......



All I got to say to you is...







:afro: Nice one! Looks like you're really taking your time with this and doing it right the first time. Can't wait to see the videos!
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Post by: Seanl on 09 June 2011, 19:22
Well happy for you mate, I bet you were grinning from ear to ear!!  :grin: :grin:

What was the problem with the no spark then??
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 09 June 2011, 19:24
well done mate! chuffed for you!  how loud with no exhaust  :evil:

what was wrong with it?
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Post by: jonnypolish on 09 June 2011, 19:33
That engine looks MAJOR fresh!! Dammmm!

Great work mate! even im waiting to hear it running!!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 19:37
i ran vag com on my zillion year old xp Laptop, 15 codes came up (all bull sh!te from stuff been un plugged i guess)  i cleared the codes and just tried it

The thing just fired up into life, couldnt believe it, sounds mental with no exhaust :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

need that cat to arrive from the states i cant wait to get this bad boi on the road

biggest shouts ever to ben - some of his work on this was outstanding (and im a fussy bas tard)

jonny - u know me, iv spent alot of time on this engine and everything else, we both wanted to make this look OEM. The wiring is better than it was out the factory..  im very very happy


a few tiny bits to sort, brackets and stuff for the coolant bottle etc and induction kit, and thats about it...

it will then be off for a custom remap
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 09 June 2011, 19:46
how long for the cat to come? any news on it?
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Post by: CCGTI on 09 June 2011, 19:47
what about my help lol taking you out with my broken horn
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Post by: Wayne on 09 June 2011, 20:44
Great result with getting it started. :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 20:54
The Cat is due any time

gonna pop some vids up tomo,

Roger - that was funny with that horn and those creaking noises hahahahahaha

Over the moon right now!!!

3 days of hard work went from a stripped out car to this!!
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Post by: pablo64 on 09 June 2011, 21:15
im well pleased that youve got it up and running kells/ben, excellent job
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Post by: benvictors on 09 June 2011, 21:21
SUPER SUPER SUPER stoked about this firing up  :smiley: :wink: :cool: :grin: :laugh:
Chuffed witht the end result, think we have done an A-MAZING job on it to say it was our first (of many?? :shocked:) conversions
Like Brad said, some odds and sodds to sort out and that god damn cat to turn up and she's on the road  :cool:
Im actually rather shocked at just how well it has gone, without taking into consideration all the fecking about on that green valver we did, it was a 2 day tear down and 4 day re-build  :shocked: 6days from a running, OLD SPEC, 8v, to a running 1.8T  :smug:

Gotta make another housing for the boost gauge as I butchered the old one  :rolleyes:
And as Brad said, a few under the hood brackets to make, expansion tank, carbon cannister and air filter, but I think the plan is to take it to my work once its on the road to do them.

CANT WAIT FOR THE TEST DRIVE  :grin: :grin:
Got some pics from the last couple of days so il start bobbing them up shortly  :cool:
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Post by: Horney on 09 June 2011, 21:43
Would be interested to see a break down of costs. Good work chaps.

Nick
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 21:50
Would be interested to see a break down of costs. Good work chaps.

Nick

cost a fooking lot mate, got all the paperwork for the whole build but dare not tot it up just yet :lipsrsealed: :shocked: :evil:

the engine was not cheap, it was the exact engine i wanted tho and the right miles (40k) and these engines are getting very hard to find with those miles(as i found out). i didnt want one that had been in any other dub or conversion - it had to be one straight from the original car. it took me ages to find the right one i was hapy with (as you lot on here know haha)

Job could be done for a couple of K less if you chose a regular 20 VT.  We used the best of everything we could for this, everything had to be spot on. im so happy because this car is close to been what i had in my dream

I want Big bad ass breaks and a LSD next..  but the remap is next soon as i get paid :laugh:


Bens car is getting a V6 engine too so that should be a fun project when it happens

 
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Post by: dom on 09 June 2011, 21:56
Would be interested to see a break down of costs. Good work chaps.

Nick

I'd also be very interested to know the totals if you dare add them up :grin:

If you ever do work it out (and don't mind sharing the info) hit me up with a PM, i'd love to know how much this conversion actually costs doing it to a high standard :wink:
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Post by: Wayne on 09 June 2011, 22:02
What are you planning for brakes.
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Post by: golf-sib on 09 June 2011, 22:08
F*ck the brakes I am tired of all this engine talk and no vids.... get them UP
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 22:09
Breaks wise

thinking brembo off the Cupra r if they will go behind my 16" (dont think they will)

or some kind of Porker breaks

A few pics of the engine

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5885/imageukp.jpg)


(http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/6043/imageno.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1210/imagerwe.jpg)

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3343/imageran.jpg)

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3282/imagepyd.jpg)

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1125/imagewub.jpg)

Videos tomo
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Post by: Mikester on 09 June 2011, 22:10
Porsche brakes i think it has to be given the wheels if they would fit. Maybe boxster ones like people fit to mk4's and a3's.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 09 June 2011, 22:43
 Looks like a your doing well so far. :afro: be careful getting used to double the 8v power.
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 22:50
Looks like a your doing well so far. :afro: be careful getting used to double the 8v power.

im used to more power, my swift gti was/is 150 odd bhp and thats like a biscuit tin, miss that power so im glad to be back :evil:  cant wait to get it mapped up :-)

cheers for all your help BTW, you have been a star!..  very close now to finisihing this, so nhappy it works as does everything else inside the car etc
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Post by: jonnypolish on 09 June 2011, 22:58
Im intrigued to know the costing of this!
If i ever get out of drifting (Which i doubt  :embarassed:)
I want to R32 my old girl! if i still have her!

Looks f00king tidy man, very impressed. Although you have always been an OEM/Clean PERVERT  :grin:
Im up in august and cant wait to see this! See if you can catch me :evil:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 09 June 2011, 23:08
That looks bloody good and actually belongs in that bay. Top work guys, I'd love one one of these in mine.
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 09 June 2011, 23:10
My only criticism would be that it appears to be a tad crowded on the right hand side due to the cone filter, battery and washer bottle. Still awesome though.
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Post by: F17BAD on 09 June 2011, 23:13
cheers for the comments, really bloody happy with this, cant believe its all working !! haha, lots more to come from this car in the future.... :cool: :lipsrsealed: :evil:

looks ok in person, toyed with idea of moving battery or the washer bottle for a mk4 item on the other side because i need cold air to the induction kit and space is tight haha  we will see
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Post by: cняis on 09 June 2011, 23:56
One thing at a time, however if you decide to relocate the battery then a BMW E36 would be a good start, you can use the battery cable (its very heavy gauge and long) and the associated distribution block in the engine bay. High quality and cheap enough from a breakers yard :afro:
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Post by: Bellend on 09 June 2011, 23:57
I soooooo wish I was a part of this.

Such an epic conversion.

Top work, well done lads!  :cool:
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Post by: Wayne on 10 June 2011, 00:04
Brakes wise

thinking brembo off the Cupra r if they will go behind my 16" (dont think they will)

or some kind of Porker breaks

A few pics of the engine

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1125/imagewub.jpg)


I believe 312mm is the biggest that will fit behind 16", engine bay looks great  :smiley:, might be worth looking at moving the battery to the boot
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Post by: Rhyso on 10 June 2011, 07:37
Wayne is correct - 312mm will fit behind 16's; Cupra R brakes need 17's at a minimum

Looks awesome  :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 10 June 2011, 07:49
312 mm aren't necessary. Later mk3 288mm with decent pads will do. Will mean you can still fit a 15" spare or the standard gti wheels for the winter etc.
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Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 June 2011, 09:30
That looks fookin' sh!t.

























 :grin: Only joking. Fair play, got it in and to an extremely high standard by the looks and sounds of it so I hope it runs and stays well for you. :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 June 2011, 09:42
Cheers for the replies, we are over the moon with it. Will get a video up of it running later :-)
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 10 June 2011, 09:44
Cheers for the replies, we are over the moon with it. Will get a video up of it running later :-)
Have you taken it for a blast? The sound is amazing!  :cool:
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Post by: Misky on 10 June 2011, 10:07
Great work Brad! Im defo poping upto Leeds now!  :laugh:
This car is crying for a mag shoot!!!
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 June 2011, 10:19
Not taken it on the road yet as I'm waiting to fit the cat once that arrives :-)

Can't wait to drive it, car finally has the engine it deserves !!!   :cool:

Misky, cheers for that :-)
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 June 2011, 19:35
Here is a quick video of the engine running, i have more which ill upload later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVRbuDQ5Kg
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 10 June 2011, 21:00
Sounds awesome! Love the sound of the turbo! :)
Can it be heard so well cos of no exhaust? Or will it still be obvious with exhaust fitted? 
gonna be fantastic! Well done!

I remember my mate years ago started his freshly made rs turbo onion and it had no exhaust, and you could here the turbo spool up and down, was awesome!  Btw it was surprisingly quick and torque steered horrifically!

Will the beast torque steer as well? Don't want it catching u out!
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Post by: Jimp on 10 June 2011, 21:19
It's awesome to hear the car running  :cool: Great work turning it around so fast man :afro: Are you taking it to any of the summer shows?
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Post by: F17BAD on 10 June 2011, 21:25
Should be able to hear the turbo just the same, exhaust is straight thru from Turbo back, the cat iv got coming is non restrictive  :cool:

will prob torque steer, my swift gti did with its 150hp motor, i dont  mind that tho

Jimp hope to take it to as many as i can, wanna hit ED38.. think car is gonna get fresh paint soon
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Post by: neil1780 on 10 June 2011, 21:36
Awesome mate well done, oem look is by far the tidiest imo :afro:
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Post by: Wayne on 10 June 2011, 21:39
Sounds sweet as  :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 01:13
*told you id take the car off the road by May didnt i hehe

Is the 8V motor out?

Is the car off the road?

You've bought an engine.

That's not an engine conversion, that's buying some parts.

As for timescales, remind me when you started blathering on about putting a 20VT in it?

This could run aground yet.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSyxxOe2a6FRWSH8zVijgGBpO9kjUutax6y4AaS3aSh7fapealJfQ)
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 09:43
That's the reply of the year :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Dmonday on 11 June 2011, 10:04
Sounds like it's running perfect ;) congrats man, i would be well happy with it!
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 12:27
Cheers dude, proper happy with it  :cool:
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Post by: cняis on 11 June 2011, 14:56
I bet you're chuffed to bits!  :laugh:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 16:29
I bet you're chuffed to bits!  :laugh:


Really happy mate yea, just want this cat to turn up from the states now  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Jimp on 11 June 2011, 21:39
@Bellend  :grin: :laugh:
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Post by: *tell* on 11 June 2011, 21:50
well done and looking and sounding good  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:06
Boost gauge is now fitted

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5097/imageyyt.jpg)

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/689/imageiwe.jpg)

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5784/imagextp.jpg)

changed illumination from white to blue to match my interior mods

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/892/imagelzgn.jpg)

(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/104/imageaet.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:10
Boost gauge, awesome!  :cool:

Carbon,  :undecided:

Is there any other carbon bits in the car?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:10
@Bellend  :grin: :laugh:

 :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:12
yea the lettering on the numberplates is carbonfibre mate..  it was black but was not happy with the finish, i like it. for now it stays.. well at least untill we fabricate another panel (its made from metal)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Wayne on 11 June 2011, 22:15
Boost gauge looks good. :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:17
cheers wayne mate, happy with it  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:20
yea the lettering on the numberplates is carbonfibre mate..  it was black but was not happy with the finish, i like it. for now it stays.. well at least untill we fabricate another panel (its made from metal)



Fair do's.

Looks quality work as usual though!  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:26
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:29
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!
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Post by: cняis on 11 June 2011, 22:36
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!

Erm, just buy an original 16v or VR?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:39
insurance have agreed the value to 7.5k!!!!   :smiley:

car will be getting new paint, does not really need it but the front end has age related stone chips (the car is almost 19 year sold and on original paint)

Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: cняis on 11 June 2011, 22:43
insurance have agreed the value to 7.5k!!!!   :smiley:

car will be getting new paint, does not really need it but the front end has age related stone chips (the car is almost 19 year sold and on original paint)



colour change?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jamrock on 11 June 2011, 22:44
well done kells.  :smiley:

looking proper OEM that is.
 :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:48
insurance have agreed the value to 7.5k!!!!   :smiley:

car will be getting new paint, does not really need it but the front end has age related stone chips (the car is almost 19 year sold and on original paint)



colour change?

absolutly not matey..

took me ages to find a flat black early mk3 GTI, will be same colour. as i say it does not really need it, but seen as iv now gone this far.....

plus one of my best mates owns a Bodyshop and is wanting to put his stamp on the car.. who am i to stand in his way  :evil:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:48
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!

Erm, just buy an original 16v or VR?

Not my thread but no.

Cheaper insurance on a conversion and my car and want to keep it that way, plus the shell is rust free.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: cняis on 11 June 2011, 22:51
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!

Erm, just buy an original 16v or VR?

Not my thread but no.

Cheaper insurance on a conversion and my car and want to keep it that way, plus the shell is rust free.


Ok well i wont clutter up brads thread anymore but surely you're reshelling a 16v as you'd want all the car except the panels. I cant see how insurance will be cheaper on a conversion  :undecided:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Bellend on 11 June 2011, 22:59
Cheers bruv.. see how i get on with it.. can easily switch to plain black again if i change the old mind on it :-)



No worries man, hope I can do my 16v conversion (would be 1.8t or VR but £££) to the same level, don't care if it takes the full 6 months, want it right. Is just so much better. Car's gotta be worth a fair bit now! Especially if you get it blown over!

Erm, just buy an original 16v or VR?

Not my thread but no.

Cheaper insurance on a conversion and my car and want to keep it that way, plus the shell is rust free.


Ok well i wont clutter up brads thread anymore but surely you're reshelling a 16v as you'd want all the car except the panels. I cant see how insurance will be cheaper on a conversion  :undecided:

Lol Sorry Brad!

Because it will be a 2l 16v Golf. Not a "GTi". It won't have the badge kinda thing.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 11 June 2011, 22:59
hehe its ok guys   :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: pablo64 on 12 June 2011, 10:02
Boost gauge looks cool as does your dash illumination, loving this car, excellent attention to detail, ideal mk3 respect matey
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: dom on 12 June 2011, 19:28
Loving the boost gauge, great idea :afro:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 June 2011, 19:53
Like the idea of the boost gauge but don't like the location. Looks weird without the heater vent there.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 June 2011, 20:34
its my prefered location - tried a it on the cowling infront of the dials and i hated it as it looked too fussy for my liking and i didnt want it jap style on the A pillar..  i dont use those middle vents, i never have because of the dust it causes (my OCD) so this is the ideal location to use for me.

TBH, its a case of functionality over aesthetics really, that said, i love it so its all good  :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 12 June 2011, 22:23
I think it looks pretty good there as well and like yourself, never ever use the centre vents.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 12 June 2011, 22:33
yeah its in perfect vision too from drivers seat. and i like making use of the vents i dont ever use - you know the score  :smiley:

Just been with my mate Mj (mj interiors)  might get him to trim the panel in leather ha - he says he will do if i want.. kind of like the carbon fibre tho now... ill see how i get on with it :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: cняis on 12 June 2011, 23:33
I have this to compliment your boost gauge if you like, all i'd ask for is postage. It uses a 501 bulb in the back which can easily be swapped for a blue LED.

http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&k=s&p=134GOPEBARW

(http://www.larkspeed.com/intricart/product/image1/134GOPEBARW.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 13 June 2011, 06:34
What about mounting in the drivers dash speaker grill, seen somewhere that the cover was lifted and a panel made so it sits raised and 2 gauges mounted, will try and find the pic today, then you could keep oem vents appearance and fit an oil pressure gauge, thought you'd be wanting one on this bad boy :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 June 2011, 09:54
mark let me know

chris - that is a mighty fine offer - really appreciate that, not sure if i wanna run 2 gauges yet, but if i do ill take u up on this offer - you are a top guy   :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: cняis on 13 June 2011, 13:36
mark let me know

chris - that is a mighty fine offer - really appreciate that, not sure if i wanna run 2 gauges yet, but if i do ill take u up on this offer - you are a top guy   :wink: :cool:

No probs, I recently pulled it out of the dash and wont need it. Doesnt come with a sender though so I cant check if it works (or can I run 12v through it to check?)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 June 2011, 14:02
i will let you know if i need it mate, many thanks for the offer - means a lot to me.. got you all wrong before mate  :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Mikester on 13 June 2011, 16:45
So is it raining CATS and dogs yet in your letter box?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: Seanl on 13 June 2011, 16:55
+1!! Need daily update fix now!!!!!  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 June 2011, 20:03
Still waiting on the cat, it left america on Friday so shouldn't be too long now  :cool:
Brads ordered the mk4 washer bottle, oil pressure sensor t-piece, oil temp sensor and new PAS pump plug which will all be here on Wednesday so that lot will keep us busy Wednesday night, gotta get a silicone bend for the air filter re-location too.
The coolant flange off the side of the engine interfered with the gearbox tower weight so I'm on with re-shaping the weight at work so it fits nice an snug, that should be ready to go back on Wednesday too.

Lots and lots of work gone into this that we haven't illustrated yet, we modified the radiator housing and flipped the radiator so the coolant hoses are on the right like on the Audi, which meant we had to extend the thermostat wiring.
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0745.jpg)
Had to source an ignition live in the bay for the inline coolant pump for the turbo, spliced into the reverse switch for that and run a new plug to the pump,
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0747.jpg)
had to extend the MAF wiring so it sat in the bay nicer and ran to the MAF nicely. Extended the carbon canistor plug for the re-location.
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0717.jpg)
Had to cut an additional hole on the bulk head so the new loom ran inside rather than across the engine
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0714.jpg)

sh!t loads more pics to come  :grin:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0749.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 June 2011, 20:22
Ran the boost gauge pipe the old route of the clutch cable and utilised the rubber bungs to make a seal through the bulk head
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0758.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0757.jpg)
Chopped up the centre console for the fitment of the boost gauge, fitted the back plate in with double sided tape to prevent movement
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0737.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0733.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0734.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0736.jpg)


spliced into the heated seat loom for the illumination
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0739.jpg)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: benvictors on 13 June 2011, 20:26
A few more pics of my (rather amazing  :smug: :smug:) intercooler piping
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0728.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0727.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0726.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0725.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0724.jpg)

And what we had to chop away for fitment
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0719.jpg)
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 13 June 2011, 20:41
hi mate, struggling to find the pic now, best i could find of one very similar but not finished fitting, is this

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/mark3gti/Golf%20Mk3%20GTI%208v/spkrpod2.jpg)

the gauges should be level and tucked slightly at the front and then blended in, so the grill and panel are all nice and neat,  here it looks like its plonked for testing, im still looking for the pic i saw, but it could literaly be anywhere...

this also looked fairly neat too

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/mark3gti/Golf%20Mk3%20GTI%208v/spkrpod1.jpg)

but would need tweeks if you still have tweaters there :)
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 13 June 2011, 20:54
Now this is very cool.

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/mark3gti/Golf%20Mk3%20GTI%208v/spkrpod1.jpg)
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Post by: neil1780 on 13 June 2011, 21:36
Now this is very cool.

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/mark3gti/Golf%20Mk3%20GTI%208v/spkrpod1.jpg)

+1 looks well cool
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 13 June 2011, 21:53
I do like the other idea as well, less obvious and more subtle, but the pic I saw was much better than this one, but it only takes a bit of thought provoking and I'm sure ben v will design something quality... :)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: jamrock on 13 June 2011, 22:38
sh!t loads more pics to come  :grin:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk250/djbenvictors/IMG_0749.jpg)
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i reckon you re locate the batterto the boot.

then if you want you can exstend the filter down toward the fog light area and do a cold air intake.

if not just the battery in the boot will make this pop!!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 13 June 2011, 22:45
Not keen on battery in boot tbh, so what we are doing is replacing the washer bottle that's next to the battery at the moment with a mk4 item because on a mk4 they sit on the other side of the bay like in the S3. The induction kit is a K&N and is like a oval shape, if we turn it on it's side it fits perfect where the current washer bottle is down the side of the battery ;-)
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tshirt2k on 13 June 2011, 23:28
I'd advise making yourself a leak tester for those boost pipes. Jubilee type clamps don't usually clamp hard enough. I had major leaks when I first did mine and was using mikalor type clamps. You need to pressurise it up to around 20psi to make sure its leak free. As that's what a remapped one usually boost at.  :wink:
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 09:31
I'd advise making yourself a leak tester for those boost pipes. Jubilee type clamps don't usually clamp hard enough. I had major leaks when I first did mine and was using mikalor type clamps. You need to pressurise it up to around 20psi to make sure its leak free. As that's what a remapped one usually boost at.  :wink:

which type am i best switching to? ill get whatever is best?
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 June 2011, 10:20
Great work going on here, not looked in a while but I must say I'm impressed.  Not long now then eh?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 10:51
Thanks mate, basically just waiting for Colin the cat to arrive from the states.

A few brackets to fabricate up and that's it, then I'll run her for a few weeks see if anything needs swapping about etc. Once happy I'll go get the bespoke remap, also prob dump the oil after a few thousand miles and re fill, plus drop the sump and clean it all out including the pick up pipe. Would have done this before but wanted to make sure it ran before I start taking bits off haha ;-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 June 2011, 10:58
Thanks mate, basically just waiting for Colin the cat to arrive from the states.

A few brackets to fabricate up and that's it, then I'll run her for a few weeks see if anything needs swapping about etc. Once happy I'll go get the bespoke remap, also prob dump the oil after a few thousand miles and re fill, plus drop the sump and clean it all out including the pick up pipe. Would have done this before but wanted to make sure it ran before I start taking bits off haha ;-)

Sounds like a good plan... Try not to plant your foot until you're really happy everything is good, the temptation will be hard to resist though!  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 11:09
Really can't wait to drive it. Gonna be a
Big change from the old 8v lump
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 June 2011, 11:12
Really can't wait to drive it. Gonna be a
Big change from the old 8v lump

BIG indeed... take a long time for you to get bored of it I think... you wouldn't even have to tank it to appreciate it.
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Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 11:45
Really can't wait to drive it. Gonna be a
Big change from the old 8v lump

BIG indeed... take a long time for you to get bored of it I think... you wouldn't even have to tank it to appreciate it.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too, tbh I was never board of the car before and I'm usually used to more powerfully cars than the 8v, It was never as bad as folk make out on the forums 
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Post by: Horney on 14 June 2011, 14:10
The need for more power never goes away. A mate of mine had a 2.0 Type R powered classic mini. It was mental fast, like 911 beating fast. He got bored so supercharged it. That kept him happy for about 6 months then he had to break out the Nos to get the thrill. To be honest the thing was lethal, would spin the front wheels at 130mph in top gear in the dry and topped out at 146mph bouncing off the limiter. Proper frightening but proper cool.

Anyhoo, this is all going swimmingly, look forward to the reviews after it's completed.

nick
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Post by: robz on 14 June 2011, 14:33
looking good kells! exciting stuff!

nick, was that the red one?? forget his name now.. off minifinity :D immense!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 14 June 2011, 14:41
Got any idea when the Cat is due down matey? is there an ETA?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 14:59
Colin (the Cat) left chicago on the 10th of this month so shpuld be in UK now

HOWEVER....


just had a chat to my MOT guy at the local Performance centre (BHP Centre - Batley)  and he was just telling me the laws on the cats were revised recently, and now cars up to August 94 can pass on the old legislation which means my car falls into this band (No cat needed :rolleyes:) 

My custom downpipe is so long (so you can modify at your own spec to fit whatever exhaust you want) and it is about bang on to fitting my Jetex without no cat, if i add the fitment pipe you get with the jetex i think it will fit with minimal been needed to cut off the downpipe..

Car booked in for MOT friday, cat or no cat haha, gonna trial fit tonight with no cat, see if it will work..

my oil sensor arrives at the dealer tomo (genuine parts used) as does my MK4 golf windscreen washer bottle and new Dipstick from audi plus a few other little service bits i need

i just need to get a silicone bit to extend my induction kit so i can mount this were the mk3 windscreen bottle is at present, then we are all good

Car could be on the road FRIDAY!!!!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 14 June 2011, 15:48
brill mate!
fingers crossed it flys through!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 14 June 2011, 16:09
Good Luck for the MOT then!  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 14 June 2011, 17:27
Good stuff! You still going to run the cat when it turns up or are you just gonna forget about it?

Can't wait to see the videos of it in action....gonna be immense! :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 14 June 2011, 17:41
Good luck for the mot. :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 14 June 2011, 17:43
Is the really the new legislation :huh: Any other proof other what your mate said? Wold like to know this for my new ventre  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: snifferdog on 14 June 2011, 19:19
I got excited about the no cat thing and then realised that I have a mk4 now  :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 14 June 2011, 19:26
I got excited about the no cat thing and then realised that I have a mk4 now  :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:


me too, then remember mines 96, lol :(
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 14 June 2011, 19:54
just clicked.. mine is a '93, so i dont need to run a cat???
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 20:04
Cheers guys ;-)

Adam, he is the mot main man at BHP Centre, which is the place I always use for my MOT. he said it had just come in, I have no other proof than his word, he did say along as the pre cat lambda was present all is good so we will see.

Uv already got the guys who made my Downpipe sending me a small pile to join it directly to my jetex system, if it passes Mot I'm running this bad boy with NO cat and ben can use the custom cat for his V6 project at a later date

We will see what happens
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 14 June 2011, 20:10
I believe any car first used on and after 1 August 1992 has to have a cat  :smiley:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 20:21
I believe any car first used on and after 1 August 1992 has to have a cat  :smiley:




yea i thought so, he said its recetly been revised, august 94 is now the date... we will see if she passes without Colin the CAT :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 14 June 2011, 20:28
look forward to the results then!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 14 June 2011, 20:43
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Seat-Leon-Cupra-R-Audi-A3-Golf-Bora-Brembo-Brakes-/160603634983?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2564b8fd27

you might be interested in these mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 June 2011, 20:58
i was offered some of these from where my engine came from, but i dont think they fit behind 16" rims
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 14 June 2011, 21:11
i was offered some of these from where my engine came from, but i dont think they fit behind 16" rims

They won't 316mm is the biggest you can get behind 16" rims.

312mm set up is really good however, they have lots of feel.
Title: Re: KELLS, BLACK G3 GTI..
Post by: tshirt2k on 14 June 2011, 22:03
I'd advise making yourself a leak tester for those boost pipes. Jubilee type clamps don't usually clamp hard enough. I had major leaks when I first did mine and was using mikalor type clamps. You need to pressurise it up to around 20psi to make sure its leak free. As that's what a remapped one usually boost at.  :wink:

which type am i best switching to? ill get whatever is best?

Mikalor are the best type. Like these. Just get size you need.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PACK-4-Mikalor-W2-Supra-Clamps-59-63mm-Stainless-/390282095170?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5adea02a42#ht_3220wt_689 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PACK-4-Mikalor-W2-Supra-Clamps-59-63mm-Stainless-/390282095170?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5adea02a42#ht_3220wt_689)

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: cняis on 15 June 2011, 13:36
Re cats and MOT requirements, I've heard nothing at work regards moving the date from 92 to 94 so i'm interested to see the outcome  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 15 June 2011, 13:40
so am i as wanna mot mine next month :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2011, 13:57
will be interesting, really hope it passes as id prefere to run no cat.. more power  :evil:

we are gonna finish up fitting the new oil sensors tonight and build front end up fully and tomo ill have the small bit of pipe needed to fit the exhaust and then we will give it the first ever road test. The guys who made the downpipe have very kindly made it for me out of St/ST  - Company is Trackslag.com...  check these guys out

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 15 June 2011, 14:05
man im getting excited, you must be wetting yourself haha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2011, 14:26
it still feels like a dream mate..

spent a long time planning this to perfection an got a boat load of stick, sly digs and bollox on here for doing so, but i stuck to my guns im glad i did it the way i have because i would not change a thing about the conversion. im over the moon cant imagine what its gonna be like to drive

so much more to come with this car too...
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: pablo64 on 15 June 2011, 14:43
Dont matter what anybody else thinks, youve done what you said you would and you now have a great car, what you,ve acheived is awesome, well done, looking forward to seeing vids
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 15 June 2011, 14:46
haters gonna hate brad, you knows this :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2011, 14:59
:-)

Pablo64 - did you see the video of it running with no exhaust? if not then search u tube for F17BAD  :cool:

more vids to come
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 15 June 2011, 22:50
Hope it all goes ok for you mate :) I just got my cat welded yesterday so will be fitting it on the weekend but interested to see how yours goes without one good luck!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 June 2011, 22:57
Cheers mate

got front end back on, just got to re fill the coolant tomo, fit my exhaust using the bit of pipe ill be getting delivered tomo and tighten the driveshaft bolts up and the car is ready to roll

see what friday brings.. Tomo will be first day ill be driving this car on the road!!!! :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 16 June 2011, 08:54
enjoy today dude ;)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 09:01
Will be this evening when i get to finish up on F17BAD. Cant wait. car looking good on the drive now its all back in 1 piece   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 16 June 2011, 09:08
Meh this will never happen





















 :grin:


Good work kells, build a cool mk3 and shut dh up at the same time, two birds, one stone  :cool:


Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 16 June 2011, 09:15
:D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 09:26
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

many thanks matey :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: T_J_G on 16 June 2011, 12:33
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Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 13:55
My custom Decat Section has arrived

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1761/imagejkz.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: pablo64 on 16 June 2011, 14:20
Kells must have missed vid, anyway just looked, sounds real sweet even with no  exhaust, brilliant job you've, pipe looks  :cool: , you going to fit it then wi you saying you dont need one, good luck with MOT tomoz matey  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 14:28
Cheers mate, fitting it tonight, then ill be test driving the car and MOT tomo

the video is here for those who missed it

First time running - no exhaust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVRbuDQ5Kg
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 16 June 2011, 14:31
Stick with no zaust  :smiley: :smiley:  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 14:33
hehe wish i could  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mellow yellow on 16 June 2011, 15:04
good luck with the mot kells, hope it flies through!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Misky on 16 June 2011, 15:13
I have every faith this beauty will pass without a single problem! As Brads high standard of work and persuit of perfection will not let anything slip  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 15:34
Cheers for that :cool:, everything should be ok, just the no cat issue. the Cat thats coming from the states is currently "been processed" my UK Customs

so if we do need it, it should not be long till we have it.. i hope i dont need it tho, would rather run with no cat
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 16 June 2011, 15:42
Take the test, its will fail for no cat then you have x amount of days to have a mega cheap re-test which will simply be has it got a cat... yes... PASS! Also this would make you aware of any little niggles that the car may have.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 16:13
yes mate, exactly my thoughts. we will see how it goes

(Good luck with yours btw and the niggles you have with that at the mo)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 16 June 2011, 16:19
yes mate, exactly my thoughts. we will see how it goes

(Good luck with yours btw and the niggles you have with that at the mo)

Niggles!? The engine fell out and the door fell off haha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 16:21
yes mate, exactly my thoughts. we will see how it goes

(Good luck with yours btw and the niggles you have with that at the mo)

Niggles!? The engine fell out and the door fell off haha

Oh god, best if luck with that, I'm gonna take a read of your thread later
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: benvictors on 16 June 2011, 23:17
OH
MY
GOD
ITS
FAST  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 June 2011, 23:20
Its Brutal as fook :evil:

no mot tomo tho as no fan kicking in and also my clocks are either not working or theirs is another issue with them - only rev counter working, fuel gauge going mad and no speedo.. not sure whats going on their yet
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 16 June 2011, 23:42
Quick then  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 17 June 2011, 00:42
Nearly as quick as the almighty 8v then?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 17 June 2011, 06:16
haha, gutted about the mot though mate!
hope it all comes together well!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 09:37
Car is lethal, !!!  like a totally different car to before, exhaust sounds great too, pretty quiet not chavvy at all which i was worried about. You can hear the engine more and that sounds sweet.. its just what i wanted.. :cool:

not sure whats going on with clocks, been told maybe a dodgy earth to them, not sure where to look on that one just yet ?

Regarding over heating issue, checked fan by bridging it on the plug and both speeds work, but bottom hose is not getting warm and neither are the fans inside the car.. Airlock ??????


Battery light coming on, and today battery was almost flat so i think iv got alternator wired in wrong.. will check this later
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 17 June 2011, 09:46
Speedo not working could be the sensor on top of the gearbox if its similar to the MK4 setup  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 17 June 2011, 10:01
Speedo not working could be the sensor on top of the gearbox if its similar to the MK4 setup  :smiley:

Could be karma from bragging!

 :grin:

Good luck getting it sorted though, I know how much of a sh¡tter it is when the little things don't go to plan.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 17 June 2011, 10:09

Regarding over heating issue, checked fan by bridging it on the plug and both speeds work, but bottom hose is not getting warm and neither are the fans inside the car.. Airlock ??????


Yep sounds like a airlock.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 11:07
Firstly whos bragging :grin: iv had too much hate from a few people, i think i have the right to be happy about what has been acheived - this is not bragging   :smiley:

think its bad earth on the clocks, it is all plugged in on the g/box, Alternator wired wrong and a air lock.. so hopefully nothing major. gonna try fix these bugs this afternoon.. wanna get this on the road because that power is very adictive!!!! gonna have to watch my rubber tho, was easy to get it to spin
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 17 June 2011, 11:17
Speedo not working could be the sensor on top of the gearbox if its similar to the MK4 setup  :smiley:

Could be karma from bragging!

 :grin:

Good luck getting it sorted though, I know how much of a sh¡tter it is when the little things don't go to plan.


Don't get it, when's he bragged? I've read and kept up with brads thread and don't recall bragging, nothing wrong with being happy bout what your doing, and it is in his dub ride thread, not like he's in the mk3 section saying his mk3 is better than anyone else's, (although he could :) )
Sorry, just don't understand why people have to say silly things, bugs me, but that's my opinion, I'm sure you meant it in jest and not how it read...

Good luck with fixing the niggles, isnt the earth for the clocks where the bonnet pull is: behind the plastic panel? There is one there could be worth a clean? Also could try putting other clocks In; to confirm it's not your knew ones..

Good luck mate....
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 17 June 2011, 11:23
 :grin: :rolleyes:

I think you've missed the point.

I was joking anyway.

oem rare parts for the golf 3 are stuff like  16v anniversary clocks, and yeah iv got some  :cool: :drool:  :smug: 

Plus the amount of times I've read on here about a low milage S3 engine!

You've got every right to be proud, you and Ben are doing a good job.

I was kidding about the bragging thing.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 17 June 2011, 11:33
:grin: :rolleyes:

I think you've missed the point.

I was joking anyway.

oem rare parts for the golf 3 are stuff like  16v anniversary clocks, and yeah iv got some  :cool: :drool:  :smug: 

Plus the amount of times I've read on here about a low milage S3 engine!

You've got every right to be proud, you and Ben are doing a good job.

I was kidding about the bragging thing.

Brad never bites anymore, he's used to people taking the p!ss  :grin:

Anyway it's more of a smugness/proudness, he knows it's awesome and we all know it's awesome.  :cool: :smug: Time and effort has always gone into this Golf and has always paid off.  :smiley:

There is only a small amount of times people can say "That's amazing!"  :grin:

Magazine feature soon, i bet you! :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 11:37
Thanks for that wherry,
 :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: sharki786 on 17 June 2011, 15:12
loving the turbo wistle.
I remember when i was in dewsbury and was driving back from dewsbury delights and saw kells car at night. all i said was farking hell that looks sexy! and i think i flashed at you but cant remember. when im next down in dews il pop over to you see the sketch!  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Horney on 17 June 2011, 15:19
Good luck man. From having done a  few home brew engine swaps it's the gremlins and fault finding after the main part that's been done that alwys drives me potty. It will give you grief for a few weeks once it's on the road ans expect to call the AA at least once but when it's settled and all sorted it feels like such an awesome achievement.

Nick
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 15:59
Cheers guys ;-)

Update time

Overheating issue is all ok I think it's just a bad earth to the clocks which in turn is giving false readings. Had it running for 20 mins and the needle never past the half way mark, bottom hose got warm as did the heaters. I did get some air out of the system tho so maybe it was a air lock.

Alternator issue is sorted, was a bad connection

Only issue now is the bad earth to the clocks, the maf does not work either but does when the battery charger is connected to the battery and turned on

Getting very close now to hititing the road again
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 16:23
Charging battery while i type

(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/4926/imagefum.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Len on 17 June 2011, 16:25
with 240 volts! :shocked:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: mark-mk3gti on 17 June 2011, 16:45
with 240 volts! :shocked:

Lol, think if u look real close there is a charger on top of battery, least I hope that's what it is! :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 17 June 2011, 16:46
with 240 volts! :shocked:

Its an S3 BAM engine, they all take 240volts  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Len on 17 June 2011, 16:50
I cant see any charger! Just a black cable going into engine bay!



On another note - Brad you really must get a set of chrome bonnet lifters! They really are a must for showing off that engine! :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 17 June 2011, 17:09
stunning... quality :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 17:51
Len, their is a £80 charger, it's so small it's under the hood where u can't see it :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tigerj360 on 17 June 2011, 18:39
not a bad sight to be typing too!

even under the bonnet is shinney  :cool:

good work dude!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 17 June 2011, 18:51
At least the fan bit is sorted. Just go through the diagram. For the maf, that's to do with the ecu, which will be another diagram  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: gtiballs61 on 17 June 2011, 19:02
Top job there brad,car is looking/sounding sweet with the bam.
Im soooooo jealous  :cry:
Got a vid up yet of the new exhaust notes?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 June 2011, 22:08
I'll get a video up this weekend of the exhaust :-)

Just the earth issue on the clocks to sort, rev counter is now not working and the displays don't illuminate plus the digits go off when the key is turned on, tried bens clocks in mine and his do same.

More tests Tomo hopefully cure this last niggle ;-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 17 June 2011, 23:29
Something must be loose at the fusebox. You need to get a meter and do some testing.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2011, 14:31
Something must be loose at the fusebox. You need to get a meter and do some testing.

im not sure where to start  :laugh:

on a side note,  had to take the car to bens work to make a bracke, and on my travels the car has had its first test, against the car i was going to buy if i was to get a new car - A green Focus RS...  at the lights he bottled it, but tried to smoke me on a dual carriage way.. BIG mistake haha, because the golf was stuck to the RS.s tailpipe - his fumes were getting blown it to my car (and their was alot of them so he must have really been giving it some)

He opened his window at the next set of lights asking what i had under my hood, i told him and his reply was "in that old thing" haha, so i asked him to have a little blast off at the lights, guess what. He bottled it  :evil:


3rd and 4th Gears are unreal!!!! 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 18 June 2011, 14:44
I had the same thing with a M3.  :cool:

Study the Rubjonny's fusebox FAQ and compare with that diagram. You do need a meter though to make sure your power and earths are right. Shame your up north, i could have sorted it in no time. :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2011, 14:53
would have been good if you was local mate, this is my last niggle :undecided: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: neil1780 on 18 June 2011, 16:24
Sounds proper quick mate, we need vids :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2011, 16:34
will get some rolling vids if i can mate  :cool:

Here you can see the Coolant bottle is properly fixed in place by a custom bracket Ben made at work

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5227/imagegea.jpg)

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1669/imageaky.jpg)

next we will fit the mk4 windscreen wash bottle so i can relocate the induction kit where the old bottle is at present
 trial fit is good

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6955/imagebbj.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 18 June 2011, 16:39
looks immense mate!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tdi_blu on 18 June 2011, 17:19
Awsome job mate that engine looks like its always been in there makes it all worth while  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 18 June 2011, 21:02
Respect to you for taking the time to make sure it looks factory fresh and the engine has been in from day 1 :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 18 June 2011, 21:17
cheers. OEM+ is the theme i wanted with it  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 18 June 2011, 21:26
The bay looks like it's fresh out of the factory  :shocked: The relocated battery and mk4 washer bottle are properly tidy  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 18 June 2011, 22:19
That looks the bolloxs mate.  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: snifferdog on 19 June 2011, 09:35
I think I could do with a mate like Ben  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 12:05
cheers guys

regarding ben - absolute top guy, done some wicked stuff along the way with this conversion...

ben is the man for all your conversion needs, kitchn re fitting needs, wheeel refurbs, spacers.. the list goes on what this guy can do.. not to mention his gorila grip which came in handy for those stubborn bolts

only thing i can get him on is his ability to loose bolts hahaa :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:   

He even put up with me not allowing his mucky hands to touch anything id cleaned on the engine which is no easy feat when your are doing a converison :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 19 June 2011, 17:49
Need to spay up that slam pannel the same as the bay   :drool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 17:53
do you mean the fron plastic part ?  would be difficult because it its a housing for the whole rad..
 :cool:

got most the niggles sorted, only thing on the dials now thats not working is the speedo and fuel gauge altho i dont know if any fuel is in it so im gonna top that up and if it works, im guessing we may have wired up the conevtion wrong to the gearbox (this is what i hope anyhow)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 19 June 2011, 18:14
Looking stunning mate!  :cool:

Good luck with the niggles! :cool:

Funny how DH has STFU and not replied since it's been working.  :rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 19 June 2011, 18:44
:D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 19:05
hahaha i know mate. fooking idiot jsut gives peole sh!t for no reason, i get sick of reading it.

anyhow, fuel gauge works - just put 20 quid in it, slthough when i drive is very occasionally moves to empty and then half full.. im wondering if the sender is a bit dodgey ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 19 June 2011, 19:08
True, true.  :grin:

Happy days! I think the sender is on my GTi, it did that on the way home, didn't think I was gonna make it then shot up to half a tank which was right! I'm gonna try a sender in it.

I know it's been mentioned but what did you use to sort your bay first time round? Mines as minging as yours was, want it looking fresh.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 20:01
to sort the bay and engine first time round i used same method i used on this engine

i used a load of cans of Gunk spray, and WD40.. loads of rags and kitchen roll

if you want to polish bits up i used wire brush then wet and dry, then autosol (polishing takes some right looking after

if you wanna spray bits then use high temp paint and hammerite

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 19 June 2011, 21:31
What was up with the clocks then?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 21:36
What was up with the clocks then?

look in electrical section of Club GTI russ, iv just put a post up, you may be able to help me.

iv got no speedo, i need to check the wires to the gearbox, but iv included the colours in the thread over on CGTI, also i think the sender is iffy for the fuel, its working but now and again it raises or drops ?  what do you think?

everything else is working, just no MPG readings etc on the maf and no speedo, plus my miles are not going up
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 19 June 2011, 21:38
Have you earthed the sender on the tank out, if the gauge rises then it is your problem.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 21:40
Have you earthed the sender on the tank out, if the gauge rises then it is your problem.

no mate, how do i do this ?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 19 June 2011, 21:42
Have you earthed the sender on the tank out, if the gauge rises then it is your problem.

no mate, how do i do this ?

Pull the plug off the sender and earth it against metal, if the wiring is correct the gauge should rocket up.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 21:44
which bit do i earth (is it a 2 pin plug)  if so which pin or do i earth any ??
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 19 June 2011, 21:51
to sort the bay and engine first time round i used same method i used on this engine

i used a load of cans of Gunk spray, and WD40.. loads of rags and kitchen roll

if you want to polish bits up i used wire brush then wet and dry, then autosol (polishing takes some right looking after

if you wanna spray bits then use high temp paint and hammerite



Cheers mate. Might polish the alternator. Probably paint the rocker cover, not pink though, doesn't suit the shape of it.  :grin:

I'll grab some Gunk.

I could never ground out my gauge, I just saw three wires but I'm sure two were for the pump and one the sender, grounding any out didn't do anything. Although that could be on a seperate plug, I never bothered, I just stuck some fuel in and the gauge worked.  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 19 June 2011, 21:53
which bit do i earth (is it a 2 pin plug)  if so which pin or do i earth any ??

Cannot remember now as it has been a while  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 June 2011, 21:54
ill have to have a look
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Post by: tshirt2k on 19 June 2011, 23:03
Check the thread :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 15:53
Car passed its MOT today WITHOUT A CAT

Car is a 1993 so the new regulations must be in force  :evil:

Now have a 2.5" straight through full St/St cat forsale.. it cost me 200 quid plus custom charges etc from the states.. which were 40 quid

ill take 200 for it posted if anybody wants it get in touch.. its hight quality as you would expect from anything going on my car..


1 small niggle with my speedo not working due to a ignition feed and then we are all good

Next up is a remap and Paint.... age related stone chips etc..

Try get the car ready to hit Edition 38 etc  :cool:
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Post by: Horney on 22 June 2011, 15:58
A cat has never been needed for an MOT as long as the car passes the emissions test.

Good stuff on the pass.

Nick
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 16:02
yeah true, but it has for emmisions tho for cars 1992 onwards. But they have moved the 1992 to 1994 now so i fall into the old category, bonus :evil:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 June 2011, 16:04
Car passed its MOT today WITHOUT A CAT

Car is a 1993 so the new regulations must be in force  :evil:

Now have a 2.5" straight through full St/St cat forsale.. it cost me 200 quid plus custom charges etc from the states.. which were 40 quid

ill take 200 for it posted if anybody wants it get in touch.. its hight quality as you would expect from anything going on my car..


1 small niggle with my speedo not working due to a ignition feed and then we are all good

Next up is a remap and Paint.... age related stone chips etc..

Try get the car ready to hit Edition 38 etc  :cool:

Nice one..... ha, like you need a remap right now!  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 16:10
Yeah TBH it feels so fast as it is, i want the remap just to sort out how the power comes in, its brutal in 3rd, 4th and 5th.. mental car!!!!

will sort the stone chips out etc and get the paint looking even fresher than what it is now

had a blast with a VR6 the other day, he thought mine was a standard GTI 8v... HAHAHA, made the VR6 look like a 1.3...  complete destroyed it but when we hit the breaks noting happened which was a tad worrying..

turns out when testing the engine before we routed all the pipers etc, one of the break lines must have touched the Turbo manifold.. it was leaking  :shocked: :shocked:  fixed that and now it stops as it should :cool:

Really love this car its almost my perfect Golf now....  100% mint paint and im their :cool:
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Post by: dom on 22 June 2011, 16:17
Yeah TBH it feels so fast as it is, i want the remap just to sort out how the power comes in, its brutal in 3rd, 4th and 5th.. mental car!!!!

will sort the stone chips out etc and get the paint looking even fresher than what it is now

had a blast with a VR6 the other day, he thought mine was a standard GTI 8v... HAHAHA, made the VR6 look like a 1.3...  complete destroyed it but when we hit the breaks noting happened which was a tad worrying..

turns out when testing the engine before we routed all the pipers etc, one of the break lines must have touched the Turbo manifold.. it was leaking  :shocked: :shocked:  fixed that and now it stops as it should :cool:

Really love this car its almost my perfect Golf now....  100% mint paint and im their :cool:

Glad to hear it passed :afro:

I wouldn't be wasting my time on here though....get out and drive the thing some more :evil:

Also when we getting a video of this monster?
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 16:22
im gonna give it a propper clean over the weekend and get some footage matey.. hardly driven it, only had a few drives, and on those few drives iv had a Civic type R, a VR6 and a Focus RS all get a massive shock  (the lads in the Ccivic were amazed that it had a S3 lump - said the car is SICK haha)

Its hard to believe its so fast compaired to what it was, turbo sounds mental !!!!

dont want to drive it much till we sort the lost ingition live thats causing my speedo to not work, im on this again tonight
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 22 June 2011, 16:23
im gonna give it a propper clean over the weekend and get some footage matey.. hardly driven it, only had a few drives, and on those few drives iv had a Civic type R, a VR6 and a Focus RS all get a massive shock  (the lads in the Ccivic were amazed that it had a S3 lump - said the car is SICK haha)

Its hard to believe its so fast compaired to what it was, turbo sounds mental !!!!

dont want to drive it much till we sort the lost ingition live thats causing my speedo to not work, im on this again tonight

At least you won't be clocking up any miles............
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Post by: Wayne on 22 June 2011, 16:26
Good result with the mot, sounds awsome, hope you get the speedo sorted.
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Post by: robz on 22 June 2011, 16:28
cracking news on the mot!!
may have to lose mine this year then.. might just get it through this mot though as it has been sat there doing nothing it probably needs a good clear out!
i cant wait to see this mate! well done!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: VR6_Wherry on 22 June 2011, 16:34
GTFO!!






and come back with some videos!  :cool:
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Post by: neil1780 on 22 June 2011, 17:28
GTFO!!






and come back with some videos!  :cool:

+1 this sounds awesome mate.

Are you taking it to ed38 this year?
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 17:51
I am planning on edition 38 yes   :cool:
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 22 June 2011, 18:50
well done mate! good news all round, thou how did it pass with no speedo?  :undecided:  or didnt they notice! lucky breaks passed too!

need videos!  :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 June 2011, 22:27
they never checked speedo

had it working tonight if i remove the earth for the windows.. so im getting their   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Len on 23 June 2011, 10:46
Wish you had done all this before I came up!
Maybe next time you can let me have a drive! :wink: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 11:55
i know mate, maybe next time eh  :wink:

would have been good to be able to show you but i do think the time i took prepping for this payed off, we got it fitted and running in 3 days.. iv seen folk on here take almost a year, and on some occasions they still aint up and running.. some times its best to take time planning it all.. :smiley:

i hope to be at some of the meets and stuff with the car tho so we should hook up at one of these
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Post by: Len on 23 June 2011, 12:13
Well if you go to E38 I will probably pop in there Sunday midday after I leave Action.
If it aint piddling down! :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 12:52
yea me and ben and a few others are on about ed38
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Post by: Len on 23 June 2011, 12:59
I just get bored at E38, whereas Action has much more going on day and night!
But its worth going to E38 on the Sunday to see all the cars!
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Post by: stu646 on 23 June 2011, 13:00
Great job on the car mate. Lots of hard work gone in it, all paying off though.
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 17:59
Great job on the car mate. Lots of hard work gone in it, all paying off though.

cheers mate - the gearbox is doing a grand job :-)

the green 16v car lives on, my mate has it and its all working again (the headgasket fully died on me but its been repaired and now back on the road)
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Post by: tech1889 on 23 June 2011, 18:33
sorry if i missed it but is this all legal now ??
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 18:35
yep, MOT passed, car is on the road, got a earht issue, speedo dont work, iv done a temp fix and have them working at the cost of no electric to the windows, hope to box this off in next few days
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Post by: mark-mk3gti on 23 June 2011, 20:09
yep, MOT passed, car is on the road, got a earht issue, speedo dont work, iv done a temp fix and have them working at the cost of no electric to the windows, hope to box this off in next few days

 :undecided: how's that work? No electric windows but now clocks work? Better to know how fast ur going to keeping cool! Lol :)

Bit of a weird one isn't it then? But guess that's life rolling in a g3 :) :)

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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 21:39
ALL SORTED  :cool:

was a fuse!!!! looked perfect but hit all the fuses with the Continuity test on my meter and the engine electronics one was faulty.. swapped it out and everything works as it should

wooo fooking Hooo   :grin: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


the most biggest thansk ever to Tshirt2K - an absolute top geezer who has helped me out loads over the phone..

And Ben - words cant even describe how much of a leg end he is  :wink:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 23 June 2011, 21:58
Finally got there. Sometimes we always overlook the obvious things. At least you learnt a bit about auto electrics. :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 22:09
Finally got there. Sometimes we always overlook the obvious things. At least you learnt a bit about auto electrics. :afro:

you know what, learnt a bloody load mate, your a star!!!!, did check those fuses, but wasnt till i did the check with the voltmeter on each fuse i found it to be at fault.. it was what you taught me that helped me find it.. and i only started checking each fuse because i was getting desperate! haha


 :cool:
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Post by: CCGTI on 23 June 2011, 22:15
what about my help with the bolts and my horn
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 22:16
what about my help with the bolts and my horn


hahahahaha, that was classic.. are you coming to that meet next wednesday night ?
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Post by: dom on 23 June 2011, 22:34
So we're all done? Massive congrats, can't wait to see this in the flesh :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 22:37
So we're all done? Massive congrats, can't wait to see this in the flesh :cool:

cheers man, so happy now

just about all done engine wise yes (for now), gonna re route my induction kit and fit the mk4 window wash bottle, then some fresh paint.. may aswell go the whole way with it now..  :cool:

but next month im gonna get it remapped  :evil:
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Post by: dom on 23 June 2011, 22:38
So we're all done? Massive congrats, can't wait to see this in the flesh :cool:

cheers man, so happy now

just about all done engine wise yes (for now), gonna re route my induction kit and fit the mk4 window wash bottle, then some fresh paint.. may aswell go the whole way with it now..  :cool:

but next month im gonna get it remapped  :evil:

Where you getting it mapped?
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 22:47
im not sure yet, i spoke the R tech, he gave me a really good reply and seemd to know exactly how to set the engine up for the mk3 chassis...
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Post by: CCGTI on 23 June 2011, 22:55
yes mate will need a lift off someone as i aint rockin up in the swedish porn star, dont get golf back for another 2 weeks or so
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 23:09
yes mate will need a lift off someone as i aint rockin up in the swedish porn star, dont get golf back for another 2 weeks or so

ok mate we will sort it, ben will prob swing round and get you, ill take my car too...
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Post by: CCGTI on 23 June 2011, 23:10
good i want a spin in it, to make up for the broken horn lol
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 June 2011, 23:11
good i want a spin in it, to make up for the broken horn lol

will sort it mate  :cool:
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Post by: Wayne on 23 June 2011, 23:40
Great result with finding the problem :afro:
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Post by: Rhyso on 24 June 2011, 08:48
Superb work  :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:20
cheers guys

give it a propper clean now over the weekend (if this bloody yorkshire weather holds up) and then ill get more pics up  :-)

going to relocate the window washer bottle and induction kit after the weekend when i have the silicone pipe needed to extend the induction pipeing  :cool:

really enjoyng the car
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2011, 10:21
When you have that power, it make you think, Its just how they should have made the car in the 1st place. :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:26
When you have that power, it make you think, Its just how they should have made the car in the 1st place. :cool:


too right mate. just wha ti was thinking. its the sound the engine makes too, sounds awesome!!!  jetex system is spot on, not a chav sound - just perfect.

P.S tried to call MJ again today for you, no answer so im guessing he busy, also found out that temp sensor display thing on the MFA is down to a pressure sensor been fitted rather thasn a temp one  :rolleyes: hahaha so thats now sorted too  :cool:
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Post by: pablo64 on 24 June 2011, 10:29
Glad to see everythings come together just how you wanted it to Kells, all those little teething probs sorted, looks so OEM, bet your well chuffed with it, as tshirt2k said this is how it should have been done from factory, nice one with the MOT, happy driving fella
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:39
Cheers mate - its perfect and the conversion went really really well.. im happy as a pig in sh!te right now :cool:
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2011, 10:40
When you have that power, it make you think, Its just how they should have made the car in the 1st place. :cool:


too right mate. just wha ti was thinking. its the sound the engine makes too, sounds awesome!!!  jetex system is spot on, not a chav sound - just perfect.

Tshirt knows  :grin: Get a sound clip up . Need to know what it sounds like without the middle box. I'm on the verge of ordering the pipe.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:45
When you have that power, it make you think, Its just how they should have made the car in the 1st place. :cool:


too right mate. just wha ti was thinking. its the sound the engine makes too, sounds awesome!!!  jetex system is spot on, not a chav sound - just perfect.

Tshirt knows  :grin: Get a sound clip up . Need to know what it sounds like without the middle box. I'm on the verge of ordering the pipe.

It still has the middle box present (one near rear axle), i called them and they said thats how it is supposed to be, apparently the Res versions have a bit at the front that mine does not have??
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2011, 10:55
That the bit i mean. Middle as in middle of the car. I have one in the tunnel.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 10:58
yes a "chamber" as they called it, he said sound isnt much different, mine is not loud at all, you can hear ther turbo and engine when u drive.

on idle the note is deeper than standard but miles off from my old magnex that had no middle box at all

i love it, ill get a clip or ill call you and get ben to rev it etc
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Post by: tshirt2k on 24 June 2011, 14:52
Sounds like it's similar to mine then. Can mainly hear induction noise. No drone at motorway speeds. I may leave it in then. Saves me £70.
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Post by: F17BAD on 24 June 2011, 15:46
get your carbon elements for your seats with the 70 notes matey
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 19:43
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Post by: Rhyso on 25 June 2011, 19:45
Your intercooler is wonky  :tongue:

Looks awesome otherwise  :cool: :cool:  You relocating the battery or air filter?  Looks like its a bit tight there  :undecided:
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Post by: Wayne on 25 June 2011, 19:47
Stunning  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Post by: snifferdog on 25 June 2011, 19:49
That made me do a sex wee!!

Let me know when you got to R tech, Id love to see this in the flesh!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 19:50
Yeah got mk4 washer bottle and the induction kit is going where the mk3 washer bottle is at the mo :wink:

cheers wayne :cool:

will do snifferdog mate :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 25 June 2011, 19:51
Yeah got mk4 washer bottle and the induction kit is going where the mk3 washer bottle is at the mo :wink:

Tidy  :smiley:
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Post by: JC on 25 June 2011, 19:51
looks sweet mr kells, job well done :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 19:55
cheers mate :smiley:
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Post by: snifferdog on 25 June 2011, 19:55
Just one thing - wouldnt bonnet lifters look good on this?!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 25 June 2011, 19:56
not imho, car is pre lifters and there wouldnt look oem  :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 19:58
not imho, car is pre lifters and there wouldnt look oem  :huh:

 :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Steve_PD on 25 June 2011, 20:00
Cracking job :afro: one of the nicest mk3's going :cool:
Glad to see the hater has shutup :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Credit to you and Ben :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 25 June 2011, 20:04
thanks dude  :smiley: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 25 June 2011, 20:16
As I said before, the conversion looks awesome mate.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Junior74 on 25 June 2011, 21:05
Woo Wa Wee Waah!
Sooooooooooooooooooooo Nice!!
Loving this from start to finish....
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan34 on 25 June 2011, 22:08
Very nice! Very well done  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 25 June 2011, 23:26
Absolutely stunning :cool:

The only thing letting it down for me is the blue battery, could you not get a black jacket thing for it?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: kniterider on 25 June 2011, 23:47
top work bud  :wink:

glad to see ya your forecast came off as planned, even with the minor tweaks (which all conversions have , your just honest about them!) , as much as the hater has shut up i assume he'll rise his goaty bearded c u n t of a face and pick holes some where... but let him be. Job done kells, you talked the talk, then after a bit of stalling whilst making sure everything was right for you walked the walk.... RESPECT


:)


Gaz
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Post by: kniterider on 25 June 2011, 23:49
oh yeah ya download mix is pretty damn good!! any more of similar age etc pm me links

:)

Gaz
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 26 June 2011, 13:14
oh yeah ya download mix is pretty damn good!! any more of similar age etc pm me links

:)

Gaz


got loads of mixes matey, ill sort some for you no problem :-)
and cheers for the comments

Dom - Got a mint Jacket for the battery, will pop this on once the induction kit is relocated  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 26 June 2011, 13:43
Hummina hummina hummina  :drool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 22:40
Window wash bottle relocated - using MK4 bottle

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6503/imageiot.jpg)

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/610/imageuyu.jpg)

gonna need that shallow sump too

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6089/imagetsik.jpg)

Relocation of the airfilter will happen wednesday, once i have the pipes needed to do the job   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 27 June 2011, 22:41
 :shocked: you look to be nearly thru that sump.

I wouldnt be drving it mesen  :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tech1889 on 27 June 2011, 22:42
looks really nice mate proper OEM that install.. either a shallow sump or drive slower over speed bumps lol
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 22:43
it was a fooking pot hole in the road!! hit at 25 mph.. gonna have to get a shallow one sorted to be on safe side

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 27 June 2011, 22:58
Awesome gti do them mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 23:05
Pic actually looks worse than what it is, but im gonna get the shallow sump to stop this in future

another pic

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Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 27 June 2011, 23:07
Why don't you raise the engine a touch too for extra safety?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 23:16
cant mate no room for that or the engine will touch the underside of the bonnet.. i think the sump would be ok standard tbh, im just thinking for the extra peace of mind the shallow sump will give the car enough.. either that or get a metal plate welded on  :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 27 June 2011, 23:34
cant mate no room for that or the engine will touch the underside of the bonnet.. i think the sump would be ok standard tbh, im just thinking for the extra peace of mind the shallow sump will give the car enough.. either that or get a metal plate welded on  :undecided:

Get a sump guard, I am still not keen on the shallow sump as you end up running a lot less oil and on a engine like that to me it needs all the oil it can get.

 :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 27 June 2011, 23:37


Get a sump guard, I am still not keen on the shallow sump as you end up running a lot less oil and on a engine like that to me it needs all the oil it can get.

 :smiley:

Yeah i think same as you... i think a nice fat bit of metal would give me peace of mind... maybe source a new standard sump and have some modifications done  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 28 June 2011, 00:03
What about a dry sump? Or a shallow sump and just put a big oil cooler in for that extra oil.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 09:04
ill have to have a think about it, might just modify a genuine sump with some protection  :smiley:
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Post by: lemski on 28 June 2011, 10:08
I wouldn't dry sump it. Big oil cooler would work nicely though
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 10:32
decisions decisions

Going to replace Timing belt and the water pump first anyhow. Hit 40k miles and i have no record of the pump been changed and these are notorious for failing, im sure yesterday i started to hear the pump making noises (or am i been paranoid  :laugh:).
Either way im getting it replaced so may aswell do timing belt at same time (Audi state 120k to change it)

Genuine kit is 95 quid plus vat for the timing belt kit and 33 quid for the water pump (exchange) but im gonna source one else where because Audi only supply items with  the crap plastic impeller now and this is where the problems lie
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Post by: Misky on 28 June 2011, 10:34
If you mod a standard sump by adding a plate/gaurd, you are increasing the depth, therefore you are also increasing the likelyhood of it hitting more.

I would use a shallow sump & a mocal oil cooler in a discrete place. to keep that fresh OEM look.  :cool:
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Post by: Rhyso on 28 June 2011, 10:35
If its like the VW water pump then its been revised with a stronger plastic and design

When I had the water pump done on the golf I asked if it was metal or plastic and got told the above  :smiley:
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 10:37
The timing belt replace time was revised by Audi/vw a few years ago to every 3 years or 40k..

The waterpump supplied by vw is a new revised item so they are fine no need to get a metal one..

Go to the dealers for the cambelt kit and waterpump.. And don't forget to make sure you get the tensioner as that also needs to be replaced  :smiley:
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Post by: CCGTI on 28 June 2011, 10:59
i sure i have seen a guy on ed38 selling a sump guard from his vr6 think he wants about £150 for it
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Post by: Wayne on 28 June 2011, 11:18
Genuine water pump is plastic but a much better / stronger design, I have one fitted.
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Post by: golf-sib on 28 June 2011, 11:45
Personally I wouldn't bother with sump gaurd as said about protecting the standard sump it will only make it lower and increase likely hood off contact.

Shallow sump and oil cooler is the way I would head, could stick the oil cooler ontop of fmic if room allows it otherwise drivers side vent where the smic would of went. Seen some people mod the smic into oil coolers but I am not sure if this is recommended or effective otherwise contact toyosports.

 http://www.toyosports.co.uk/oil-cooler-kit-nproducts102curpage-2-102-c.asp

or

 toyosports.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-oil-filter-relocation-kit-13-row-cooler-1262-p.asp

Check products are compatible before buying.
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 11:53
cheers guys

Regarding the camblet kit, the guy at Audi dealer told me it comes in a kit which includes everythign apart from the Damper (what the fook is this? )

ill go for the full Genuine set up

i dont have the equipment to set the timing up so it will be a garage job, they have quited 120 plus vat for labour at my local performance centre who do all my MOT's etc
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Post by: Bellend on 28 June 2011, 12:17
Plastic water pump saved my nans valves and cambelt when it siezed, stripped the pump but saved the engine.  :smiley:
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 12:39
The damper he refers to is a hydraulic tensioner you need to save the old one failing.. This will add a bit to your initial price lol
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 12:42
So edo i need the damper thing then ?  wonder how much this is
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 13:19
I personally recommend getting one saves it failing in the long run.. Think it might be about £60-70 not sure though
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 14:42
80 plus VAT for S3 engine...

picking up full cambelt kit tomo  :smiley:

water pump im not so sure on yet, seen a uprated version on ebay which is more expensive than the Audi one but is a metal version
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Post by: Wayne on 28 June 2011, 15:29

water pump im not so sure on yet, seen a uprated version on ebay which is more expensive than the Audi one but is a metal version


I believe it is safer to run the plastic version. :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 15:38
now ordered a Genuine Water pump from Audi, along with the cambelt kit.

Booked in for Monday to be all fitted  :smiley:
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 17:47
now ordered a Genuine Water pump from Audi, along with the cambelt kit.

Booked in for Monday to be all fitted  :smiley:

did ya get the tensioner ??
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 19:10
Yes mate, got the full kit and Water pump too - all from the audi Dealership   :smiley:

Now relocated the induction kit, really happy with this

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2914/imageguzg.jpg)

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1290/imagejhr.jpg)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4273/imagetst.jpg)


The K&N is in direct Cold air - could not get any better!!



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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 19:42
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2808/imagecep.jpg)
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Post by: Wayne on 28 June 2011, 19:55
Looks much better :afro:
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Post by: Steve_PD on 28 June 2011, 20:01
should have done the cambelt when the engine was out would have been easy.

engine bay looks spot on. looks factory made :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 20:02
Cheers guys

Steve, i wanted to but we decided we would rather get it in the car working before i did anything to it, plus i want to get that done by the garage so i know its timed up correct etc..

Its going in monday AM.

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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 20:15
looks awesome all you need now is relocate battery and the bay will look sweet as fook mate  :cool:
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Post by: golf-sib on 28 June 2011, 20:19
I'd leave the battery there for two reasons, one it looks more OEM and its somewhat insulating hot air from reaching his new found intake for the filter.

Think it will look really empty with the battery gone and I can't think what you could possibly fit to fill in that gap except a ps3 george forman grill
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Post by: tech1889 on 28 June 2011, 20:25
I'd leave the battery there for two reasons, one it looks more OEM and its somewhat insulating hot air from reaching his new found intake for the filter.

Think it will look really empty with the battery gone and I can't think what you could possibly fit to fill in that gap except a ps3 george forman grill

relocation is the way forward lol.. cleaner looking bays look sweet and are relatively cheap to start off..
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Post by: F17BAD on 28 June 2011, 20:34
cheers guys

did think of moving the battery but i do like the OEM look of it p;us i really like to keep all the engine related stuff in the engine bay... we will see  :smiley:
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Post by: Wayne on 28 June 2011, 20:36
cheers guys

did think of moving the battery but i do like the OEM look of it p;us i really like to keep all the engine related stuff in the engine bay... we will see  :smiley:

I think the battery is ok as is tbh.
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Post by: tshirt2k on 28 June 2011, 20:45
cheers guys

did think of moving the battery but i do like the OEM look of it p;us i really like to keep all the engine related stuff in the engine bay... we will see  :smiley:

I think the battery is ok as is tbh.

Me too  :wink:
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Post by: dom on 28 June 2011, 20:56
cheers guys

did think of moving the battery but i do like the OEM look of it p;us i really like to keep all the engine related stuff in the engine bay... we will see  :smiley:

I think the battery is ok as is tbh.

Me too  :wink:

I also think it looks great there, there would be too much empty space without it :wink:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 29 June 2011, 00:55
The new intake and washer bottle look loads better. Top marks mate.
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Post by: Adam on 29 June 2011, 03:22
Like it lots!

You could make the MK4 battery cover fit or orientate it longitudinally and use the MK4 battery base with a plate to extend the battery tray.
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Post by: F17BAD on 29 June 2011, 08:56
Like it lots!

You could make the MK4 battery cover fit or orientate it longitudinally and use the MK4 battery base with a plate to extend the battery tray.

did think of this too, i like it as it is for now but if i make a change at some point then this cold be the one  :wink: :cool:
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Post by: CCGTI on 29 June 2011, 18:29
cant wait to see it tonight mate, should get a great reaction buddy, well done to you and ben for the hard work and research :nerd:
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Post by: F17BAD on 29 June 2011, 18:39
cant wait to see it tonight mate, should get a great reaction buddy, well done to you and ben for the hard work and research :nerd:

Car is not playing out tonight unfortunatly, the waterpump is leaking and making a noise like a bag of spanners  :grin:  think the impeller has broken, its already booked in for m onday for new Cambelt, tensioners, dampners and Water pump (all genuine Audi)

Not risking using it till then, but you can take a look at it on my drive when u pick me up wi ben
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Post by: CCGTI on 29 June 2011, 19:02
sound mate, shot gun front
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 08:40
Vented wing for cold air feed?
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 09:10
Vented wing for cold air feed?

Its not needed Len, the tip of the filter is out of the wing and looking at the ground - not close enough to get wet but in open cold air, its perfection for a induction kit, i dont even need to use any cold air feed ducting

If you remove your wash bottle you will notice the big open space where you can see the ground -  looking down thru the bay - this area is not in the enclosed area that the engine undercover guards (if this makes sense :laugh:)

in a nutshell, behind those lower bumper vents but its higher up to guard from rain etc
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 10:02
Just caught up... looks ace this... as said, almost looks like it's always been there.. top work fella's. :afro:
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Post by: cняis on 30 June 2011, 10:17
Like  :smiley:

Well done!
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 11:43
Vented wing for cold air feed?

Its not needed Len, the tip of the filter is out of the wing and looking at the ground - not close enough to get wet but in open cold air, its perfection for a induction kit, i dont even need to use any cold air feed ducting

If you remove your wash bottle you will notice the big open space where you can see the ground -  looking down thru the bay - this area is not in the enclosed area that the engine undercover guards (if this makes sense :laugh:)

in a nutshell, behind those lower bumper vents but its higher up to guard from rain etc

Yes but there is nothing (from what I can see in the photo) to stop it, also drawing hot air straight from the radiator?
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 11:50
doubt it will pulling in that much from the rad where it is but you could always  remove one of the lights from your hella's!  :wink:  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 11:58
its not possible to draw air from the Rad in the location its at

the rad is enclosed in on the mk3's anyhow, and the air filter is sat outside behind your indicators area.

My engine is also enclosed in too because iv fitted my full engine undercover which i had before (fits the S3 engine with only a very tiny bit of modifications)

Have a gander len in the corner behind your wash bottle behind your lights when u get a mo, u will see a open hole leading outside, the indiction kit is taking all the fresh air this has to offer  :wink: :cool:

removing a lamp was one of my facve options but its really not needed


cheers for compliments guys too  :cool: :smiley:
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Post by: jamrock on 30 June 2011, 12:28
looking sweet.

in re the sump, iirc Freno?? has one on this mk2 golf s3. he is on club gti as he was being f**ked with on here by.....  :angry:

might be worth loking into, and also once u add the sump guard u wont have to worry at all
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 12:56
I have been looking dont worry Brad!
I am going to have worse problems with the throttle bodies!
I do have to disagree about the fans though! They may well be enclosed but the the fans pull the air out into the engine compartment. Unless you seperate the filter completely you will be drawing hot air!
I am also looking at bonnet vents. As we all know from basic science hot air rises, so some vents one either side at the rear of the bonnet should help.

I too have the undertray and think that makes things worse as the hot air from rad can only join the heated air around the exhaust manifold.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 13:57
the only way i could improve it is by mounting it on my roof :laugh:

not a fan of vented wings these days really.. ill see.. does not really fit in with the look i desire tho :undecided:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 14:00
the only way i could improve it is by mounting it on my roof :laugh:

not a fan of vented wings these days really.. ill see.. does not really fit in with the look i desire tho :undecided:

No brad, this makes more sense.  :laugh:

(http://www.proppa.com/ekmps/shops/weaver/images/safari-snorkel-nissan-navara-d40-13781-p.jpg)
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 14:03
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

A snorkle or what ever they are called  :laugh:  love it  :evil:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 14:08
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

A snorkle or what ever they are called  :laugh:  love it  :evil:

Yep, a snorkel and mk3, how fitting.....  :lipsrsealed:  :grin: sorry, couldn't resist..


Seriously though, could be full of win on new and imaginative scene points.  :grin:
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 14:13
I would need two of those! :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 14:13
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 30 June 2011, 15:07
I would need two of those! :grin:

Then it'd look like an insect.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 15:11
tbh all this heatsoak sh!t is ball bags IMO, i drove the car around in baking hot sun, wasted 2 x VR6's, a Civic Type R and sat on the tailgate of a Focus RS with the induction kit sat on my battery near the K04 taking all the heat and i had zero cold air feed  :laugh:.

The point im trying to make is i never once felt any restriction due to heat soak..

So the place it is located now with be absolutly perfect for me :cool:
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Post by: archie837 on 30 June 2011, 15:16
That's just it really isn't it. If you're building a top spec race car and everything is going to help win then you will do everything you can, but for everyday road use it isn't going to make much difference.
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 15:20
tbh all this heatsoak sh!t is ball bags IMO, i drove the car around in baking hot sun, wasted 2 x VR6's, a Civic Type R and sat on the tailgate of a Focus RS with the induction kit sat on my battery near the K04 taking all the heat and i had zero cold air feed  :laugh:.

The point im trying to make is i never once felt any restriction due to heat soak..

So the place it is located now with be absolutly perfect for me :cool:

Well come on now, it wasn't that long ago it was an 8v, how would you notice.  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 15:23
That's just it really isn't it. If you're building a top spec race car and everything is going to help win then you will do everything you can, but for everyday road use it isn't going to make much difference.

yep totaly mate.. 100% agree with you

too many people get hung up on heat soak and induction kits and read into too much crap on forums... Next thing you know everybody is a expert  :laugh:


Lol at Shaun :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Len on 30 June 2011, 15:33
I used to think same as you Brad and to a certain extent you are correct, in that during normal driving it dont make much difference, similar to having a passenger and a bit of luggage say.
Changed my views when I took car to Santa Pod. First run was done in near freezing conditions and subsequent runs got slower with my reaction times improving! (Air temp rose conciderably)
Plus doing many RR days I see the difference a cold day gives.

On 150 bhp it can make 1 to 2 bhp difference so the higher you go the greater the difference will be.
I am going to try and get a cold air only feed on mine.
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Post by: sharki786 on 30 June 2011, 15:33
kells i gota give it to you. but where are the vids my man??? unless i missed the link :undecided:
anyhow when i pop down dews i will race you :evil:(yeah right!) anyway doing realy good on the build loving everything on it.
will it be remapped? :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 15:47
Thier was a video of its first ever time running , its on youtube, jsut search F17BAD and it will come up   :wink:

will get some videos of the complete car done when i get the chance,  :cool:


Len, my car isnt a track car and a rolling road should have a huge fan blowing on the car.. its not like real world driving.

If its a warm day, a cold air feed wont help you unless your on the motorway or doing fast speeds ..

All you are doing is worrying about things you cant change, the way i see it is, iv got the filter in direct air so thats good enough for me. Its a improvement of the standard location no end anyhow  :cool:

Regarding remap, end of next month i think :-)
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Post by: jamrock on 30 June 2011, 15:56
when its on the rollers kells thats when you know what little tweeks to make and such. the air filter issue is a minor one i reckon. remap will make it so you get ahead of the focus RS!!  :laugh:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 16:06
remap will make it so you get ahead of the focus RS!!  :laugh:

hehe that would be good seen as the Focus is the car i would have bought if i got a new car, well either that or a new S3
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Post by: Bellend on 30 June 2011, 19:18
Kells, you're failing. You're building the car how you want it, not how everyone else would have it. Cheek of it!  :rolleyes:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 30 June 2011, 19:49
Seriously would you believe it, i don't know how he sleeps at night what with all this heat soak concern on his mind...   :rolleyes:
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Post by: trog_nfs on 30 June 2011, 20:01
Just to add more fuel to the heat soak fire:

On a turbo car, heat soak is less important than restriction to flow.

The air is heated when it goes through the turbo anyway, and the intercooler reduces the inlet temperatures from there.

Having a massive filter means no restriction to air flow. If the filter was tiny but completely isolated from hot air, you'd lose tonnes of power compared to a big filter with some hot air.
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 June 2011, 20:51
Just to add more fuel to the heat soak fire:

On a turbo car, heat soak is less important than restriction to flow.

The air is heated when it goes through the turbo anyway, and the intercooler reduces the inlet temperatures from there.

Having a massive filter means no restriction to air flow. If the filter was tiny but completely isolated from hot air, you'd lose tonnes of power compared to a big filter with some hot air.

Very good point.... hence the need for an intercooler.
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Post by: golf-sib on 30 June 2011, 21:05
Just to add more fuel to the heat soak fire:

On a turbo car, heat soak is less important than restriction to flow.

The air is heated when it goes through the turbo anyway, and the intercooler reduces the inlet temperatures from there.

Having a massive filter means no restriction to air flow. If the filter was tiny but completely isolated from hot air, you'd lose tonnes of power compared to a big filter with some hot air.

Very good point.... hence the need for an intercooler.
s

And intercoolers are really called after coolers as they cool the air after the turbo. I could dig out the math equations about intake temp, under bonnet temp and the new ambient temperature after the IC but I CBA.

Also wheres the guy moaning about the 1-2bhp, remember cold days are a bit like a dyno lottery, to many factors from humidity, time of year, temp, altitude, how many mag pies present etc... You can always diet and become a deprived hungry human, that will gain you some power to weight ratio.

Also he could just put some foam between the battery to stop and conducting heat. But I hardly imagine its an issue with a FMIC present in front of the aircon/rad fans, which is always a benefit and the corner of the car being relatively high pressure means very little heat will conduct.
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 21:25
good points made

agree and im more than happy with my set up

Very Very good point RE heat and intercoolers and size of the airfilter

the induction kit is HUGE!!! i also have a samco Silicone TIP so restriction is minimal

to answer bellend, im not failing, im winning, when was the last time i did things to my car just to please anyone but myself

in other words - If i dont like it, i wont do it.

however i always like to listen to peoples ideas because i find it interesting, so i try encourage this :smiley:

@ thai-wronghorse - bloody stupid aint it hahaha, what more can you do apoart from pop the filter on the roof like i said before...   people worry too much about stuff that is not such a issue.. thats the interweb for you i guess  :grin:


right next up is whole new cambelt set up and waterpump

 (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4807/imagencvr.jpg)


and then its time for some fresh paint and remap   :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 30 June 2011, 23:11
ion kit is HUGE!!! i also have a samco Silicone TIP so restriction is minimal

to answer bellend, im not failing, im winning, when was the last time i did things to my car just to please anyone but myself

in other words - If i dont like it, i wont do it.

I think you missed the sarcasm mate.  :grin:

I'm sttill jealous. b!tch.  :cry: :tongue: :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 June 2011, 23:14
ion kit is HUGE!!! i also have a samco Silicone TIP so restriction is minimal

to answer bellend, im not failing, im winning, when was the last time i did things to my car just to please anyone but myself

in other words - If i dont like it, i wont do it.

I think you missed the sarcasm mate.  :grin:

I'm sttill jealous. b!tch.  :cry: :tongue: :grin:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

 :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 11:52
Its looking like the car will be off the road again in the next couple of weeks...

My mate with the bodyshop just called me and wants to re paint the whole car, and he wants to do it soon as possible so my car is ready for some shows.. who am i to argue  :cool:
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Post by: brett on 01 July 2011, 13:33
nice lookin good mate ,still looking to keep it original colour or you changed your mind
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 15:01
id never change the colour.. everyone knows the flat back is the best colour for a GTI  :cool: :wink:

Everything is staying as it is, the theme of the car is OEM+  and thats how its staying  :cool:
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 01 July 2011, 15:11
right next up is whole new cambelt set up and waterpump

 (http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4807/imagencvr.jpg)


and then its time for some fresh paint and remap   :cool:

I think it's been said already but surprised you didn't do this before you fitted the motor.
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 15:15
Shaun, wanted to but

A) wanted to make sure the engine worked right before i started ripping bits off like the timing kit  (incase i had to return the engine for whatever reason etc)

B) wanted the timing belt fitted by a pro so i know its timed up correctly and also so i have the relevant paperwork to back this up  :cool:

Stands me at alot of cash this now so i need to treat it like a new born  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 01 July 2011, 21:40
Sat waiting for new cambelt and water pump

im missing the Turbo already, roll on monday  :laugh: :evil:

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4429/imagekjb.jpg)
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Post by: Toby on 01 July 2011, 23:39
this looks the nuts! my mates got a 5 door mk3 s3 conversion ko4 fmic etc.. got it goes! but looks no where near as a good as this! Very OEM! my fave mk3! haterrrrrz!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: cняis on 02 July 2011, 00:26
Dont keep banging on about haters, there arent any anymore  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dmonday on 02 July 2011, 07:30
Don't think anyone can hate on this car, good work dude :evil:
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Post by: F17BAD on 02 July 2011, 09:50
Cheers guys  :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: archie837 on 02 July 2011, 12:42
I hate this car.


For not being in my ownership.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 02 July 2011, 13:05
Why are you doing the cambelt now? Why didnt you put it on before it went in?
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Post by: Seanl on 02 July 2011, 15:30
Why are you doing the cambelt now? Why didnt you put it on before it went in?

Read the rest of the thread!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 July 2011, 16:25
Shaun, wanted to but

A) wanted to make sure the engine worked right before i started ripping bits off like the timing kit  (incase i had to return the engine for whatever reason etc)

B) wanted the timing belt fitted by a pro so i know its timed up correctly and also so i have the relevant paperwork to back this up  :cool:

Stands me at alot of cash this now so i need to treat it like a new born  :grin:

Makes sense. 
Why are you doing the cambelt now? Why didnt you put it on before it went in?

as above.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Sam on 02 July 2011, 18:18
Why are you doing the cambelt now? Why didnt you put it on before it went in?

Read the rest of the thread!  :rolleyes:

Im not reading 150+ pages to find out why it needs a new cambelt
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 July 2011, 18:58
As quoted by Shaun matey  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: vdubman on 02 July 2011, 19:53
dude,just looked through some pages and i must admit this is how all mk3's should have been from the factory,fook the wolfsburg edition,this is super  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 18:26
New cambelt kit and water pump now fitted

old water pump was the engines original (40k miles) and its fooked as i expected

zero Impeller left and noisy as hell bearings. Garage also told me if the car had turned one more wheel with the engine running it would have probably cost me a fortune to put right because the cambelt was as loose as a mofo and could be revoved by hand  :shocked:

anyhow, here is the old waterpump

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6540/imageapy.jpg)

Here is pic of new one to compare

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4807/imagencvr.jpg)

Car now all back togeather and ready to rock and roll  :cool:

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3681/imagegqd.jpg)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Toby on 04 July 2011, 18:34
remap time  :evil: :rolleyes: :evil: :rolleyes: :evil: :cool: :wink: :lipsrsealed: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: cняis on 04 July 2011, 18:37
Are you going to source the plastic cover that S3's have over the washer & coolant bottles?  :smiley: You could possibly cut to fit
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 18:39
yeap Remap :evil:, think its off to paint shop this month, then its deffo off for remap (and a couple more mods to the engine to help it perform its best)

chris, i was only just talking about this the other day.. i dunno, id like to get them and see how it looks. thing is i really like how it looks at the mo.
No harm in trying the covers tho  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: cняis on 04 July 2011, 18:41
I drove an S3 today and theyre quick even in standard form.  :wink:

I still prefer a lazier (6 cyl +) engine though, for the noise and bottom end grunt.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 18:44
Yeah a few of my mates have S3's they are pretty good. total diff ball game in the mk3 tho. it leaves them for dust  :evil:

i miss the 8v for that lazy feeling, it wasnt too bad that old lump for the daily use. saying that this S3 lump pulls in every gear from what ever speed you are going in so you can be lazy with it too. Just have that brutal feeling when the boost comes in haha  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 04 July 2011, 19:16
I love the warning sticker on the intake pipe  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 19:25
I love the warning sticker on the intake pipe  :grin:

me too hahaha, its actually painted on is that..  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 04 July 2011, 20:32
 :shocked: Lucky escape with the water pump etc.
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Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 21:05
very very lucky mate
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: VW BUSH on 04 July 2011, 21:13
let down by a bit of dirt on the wing, there i found something wrong with it  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 22:53
let down by a bit of dirt on the wing, there i found something wrong with it  :cool:

cheers matey  :grin: :wink: :smiley: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 04 July 2011, 23:01
Looking good fella. How did the car not overheat?  :shocked:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 04 July 2011, 23:19
Looking good fella. How did the car not overheat?  :shocked:

 i caught it in time mate, heard the bearings in the pump and i already know they are notorious for failing so i parked her up, then the day after i noticed the coolant was all gone from the expansion bottle, and some was on the floor which confirmed it

had it towed to the garage as i was not gonna risk starting it and thast was that

If i had driven it some more i dont like to think what could have hapened

You just cant risk this sort of stuff, makes you wonder how many Vag cars from 1999 ish onwards are driving round with hardly any waterpump left :lipsrsealed: Guy at Audi told me all vag cars have this pump but they have been made stronger so this one should last longer  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 10 July 2011, 20:44
UPDATE

1 week tomorrow (Week commencing 18th July) F17BAD will be dismantled and given a fresh coast of its original colour L041 Black..

in Prep for visit to some shows and stuff and to basically finish of the car (for now)

Then it will be booked in for a custom remap and also be treatred to a Forge Actuator  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 10 July 2011, 21:27
UPDATE

1 week tomorrow (Week commencing 18th July) F17BAD will be dismantled and given a fresh coast of its original colour L041 Black..

in Prep for visit to some shows and stuff and to basically finish of the car (for now)

Then it will be booked in for a custom remap and also be treatred to a Forge Actuator  :smiley:

 :cool: looking forward to seeing updates etc.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 11 July 2011, 14:21
nice one mate!!
wish mine was as well as this :(
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 11 July 2011, 15:50
Im pretty lucky as one of my best mates owns a really top bobyshop with some of the best equipment.. House of Kolor dealer etc....
He did my arches for me so i could get the car as low as it is on the porker rims. He knows im a fussy bas tard so i know he will treat the car with the respect it deserves.

He quoted the job at around the 3k mark. But iv got a much better deal than this.. its an absolute steal and id be a shady pioneer to not take him up on it.

He knows my plans for the car and he wants his name attached to it because thats obviously good for business  :wink: :cool:

I originally only wanted the bonnet and bumper doing due to age related stone chips but he insists on a full job :laugh: 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 12 July 2011, 08:59
Haha! Shady pioneer :D
Yeah sounds good! Will be stunning when it's back then!
Can I ask a cheeky question and feel free to tell me to Piss off! Would you pm me a figure of how much your conversion cost? Only ask cos I know you went perfect on everything!! ;)
Wish I had got your engine mate, would have saved so much hassle haha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 12 July 2011, 11:42
Im pretty lucky as one of my best mates owns a really top bobyshop with some of the best equipment.. House of Kolor dealer etc....
He did my arches for me so i could get the car as low as it is on the porker rims. He knows im a fussy bas tard so i know he will treat the car with the respect it deserves.

He quoted the job at around the 3k mark. But iv got a much better deal than this.. its an absolute steal and id be a shady pioneer to not take him up on it.

He knows my plans for the car and he wants his name attached to it because thats obviously good for business  :wink: :cool:

I originally only wanted the bonnet and bumper doing due to age related stone chips but he insists on a full job :laugh: 

Nice....... got any spare paint for mine.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 July 2011, 13:03
Rob, the Conversion was not cheap at all.

We could do at about half the price of what mine cost if you was to go with a regulart 20vt engine and minus a few other bits. I just went to town on mine
Mine was expensive because it is the S3 lump which always fetches silly money plus it is super low miles at 40k , It is a superb example of this engine, i even saw it coming out of the donor car, i got the clocks looms, everything on the engine was complete even had the downpipes. plus paperwork with the engine numbers etc on so everything ties up plus the donor car had minimal damage to it so the engine compartment was untouched (always something that is important)

Cost wise mine was quite alot, you are looking at circa 5k (this is what i paid for the parts used and engine itself). I then spent many many man hours cleaning things up and tidy of bay, wiring engine side and behind the dash. manufacture of brackets and others parts at bens work, basically loads and loads of work went into this build that has not been documented on here.  

This was no straight swap, but we did it in record time. to a higher standard than IMO what Would have got if i had paid a specialist to do it.

We even matched up any wires that needed extending on the looms etc with Genuine Wire of the same colours etc

Me and ben could do you a conversion if u wanted.. depends what u want but i think you could have 20vt power for around 2.5k mark possibly 3k max


P.S the guy who bought my old lump was having issues with the loom (his was not a 2E to start with)  you could always ask him if he wants to sell it ?
 



Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 12 July 2011, 13:09
Haha!
Thanks for your honesty!
At the minute I'm just getting ideas etc.. First I need to sort the chassis out then make a final decision on the engine!
Would be cool to do a conversion with you guys, thoroughly enjoyed this build!
Appreciate the man hours!
I am still attracted to a charged vr however!
If I am ever close I may contact you as I would love to see this now! And meet you of course :D
We still need a driving vid ;)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 12 July 2011, 13:13
We are putting a VR in bens car, and possibly charging that, or the 24v V6 4mo lump he is wanting to fit next year

be good to meet you too,  :smiley:

also, much more to come from F17BAD..  as i said earlier, next up is paint and custom remaps.

Next year it will be bigger turbo and who knows whatever else  :lipsrsealed: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 13 July 2011, 23:07
We are putting a VR in bens car, and possibly charging that, or the 24v V6 4mo lump he is wanting to fit next year

be good to meet you too,  :smiley:

also, much more to come from F17BAD..  as i said earlier, next up is paint and custom remaps.

Next year it will be bigger turbo and who knows whatever else  :lipsrsealed: :cool:

I cannot wait to see this car in the flesh, i've got a flat sorted in Donny and get the keys in a month so sometime after I move you'll have to take me for a spin in it :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: travisreeve on 13 July 2011, 23:34
Love for you love for your car  :kiss:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 July 2011, 09:27
Love for you love for your car  :kiss:

haha cheers mate, got to be done - its a great car   :tongue: :evil: :kiss:

Dom - yeah mate for sure, sounds good to me   :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jonnypolish on 14 July 2011, 13:59
Looks like the conversion is completed now!!!
I'm in leeds from the 15th of august i believe, lets see if your new found turbo power can leave my rwd wagon of poop :D
It'll be good to see you again, might have to get your guys to roll the arches properly on my drifter since the owner before me has done a shabby job :(
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 14 July 2011, 15:55
Do you still have your mk3 jonnypolish? Apologies for thread hijack  :embarassed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jonnypolish on 14 July 2011, 16:05
unfortunately not! Sold it onto to a kid :( and he managed to blow it up on his way home... I wasn't happy even though it wasn't mine anymore :(
Going sideways is tooooo much fun, although i am on the hunt for a passat R36  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jimp on 14 July 2011, 16:08
Shame that the car is no more, it was mint  :cry: Pics of your drifter?  :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 14 July 2011, 18:31
be good to see you jonny and smoke your jap machine whilst im at it  :evil: :evil: :kiss:

let me know when you come up, will hook up :cool:
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Post by: robz on 14 July 2011, 18:46
:D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 14 July 2011, 19:04
unfortunately not! Sold it onto to a kid :( and he managed to blow it up on his way home... I wasn't happy even though it wasn't mine anymore :(
Going sideways is tooooo much fun, although i am on the hunt for a passat R36  :evil:

Your telling me! I loved it but it will draw too much attention from the cops and cost you a set of tyres in 3 weeks  :evil:

Give me a Soarer 1jz any day please!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 12:31
Had to bite the bullet and order a new MAF sensor today (pick it up in the morning)  brand new one from Audi Dealer because i didnt want to risk a Eurocarparts/GSF refurb item.  (heard all sorts of stuff over on the S3 and LCR forums)

Basically iv noticed Im not gettign full boost and its getting worse, done a leak test and found 3 split hoses, fixed those - slight improvement but still not getting correct boost, should bost to 14.7psi standard map and im only gettign to 10 now in 3rd and 4th gear. Can hit 15 psi in second tho

Did a test on vagcom and measured the air mass (was well below what it should be) worked out my BHP from this and it is WAYYYYYYY  below what it should be - 30BHP ish down :shocked:, only running at a measily 187bhp 

Cant wait to get new MAF on and have the power it should have - still feels like a rocket even with the loss of power !! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :smug: :nerd:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 12:54
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 12:56
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 12:57
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:

Can yours not be cleaned/fixed in some way?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 15 July 2011, 13:03
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:

Can yours not be cleaned/fixed in some way?

Delaying the inevitable; sometimes cleaning it can kill it instantly
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 13:05
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:

Can yours not be cleaned/fixed in some way?

Delaying the inevitable; sometimes cleaning it can kill it instantly

I'm aware that they are super sensitive just wasn't sure if there were any solutions that were worth trying?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Rhyso on 15 July 2011, 13:05
Shame but I suppose this is what you get for conversion, bit of trial and error.   Well of course it will feel like a rocket, big step up from what it was running before.  :cool:

Yeah apparently these MAFs are notorious for failing.. not a cheap fix either but needs must  :smiley:

Can yours not be cleaned/fixed in some way?

Delaying the inevitable; sometimes cleaning it can kill it instantly

I'm aware that they are super sensitive just wasn't sure if there were any solutions that were worth trying?

Bin it!  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 13:06
As what Rhy's said.. been told to get a new one even if mine was ok and i dont know if or when it was last changed

will have the part tomo so its all good

Side note to anybody with Turbo power... make yourself a boost leak tester and fit a boost gauge :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 13:17
As what Rhy's said.. been told to get a new one even if mine was ok and i dont know if or when it was last changed

will have the part tomo so its all good

Side note to anybody with Turbo power... make yourself a boost leak tester and fit a boost gauge :wink:

But then that could turn some people into turbo hypochondriacs.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 13:20
i think im one of them now hahaha.. does give vital info tho the gauge and leaks are always gonna happen at some point  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 13:27
i think im one of them now hahaha.. does give vital info tho the gauge and leaks are always gonna happen at some point  :smiley:

cant wait to fill my VDO holes up when I get on with my interior.  the only gauge it has at the moment is my ear!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 13:58
My Boost gauge is VDO  :smiley:

here is leak test (video only of pressure gauge of compressor)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdSOl1ofKzY
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 15 July 2011, 14:04
My Boost gauge is VDO  :smiley:

here is leak test (video only of pressure gauge of compressor)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdSOl1ofKzY

Cant watch at work.  :angry:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 14:08
not much to see haha, its the guages on the compressor not in the car - shows it holding pressure this is at 25 - 30 psi too, a mapped S3 will boost at about 20 psi so for it to hold any higher is good - means no leaks and no loss of power
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jonnypolish on 15 July 2011, 17:38
Boost leaks are the bain of us Tubby boys existence! Tin of mushrooms, a bottle of chilli sauce and a foot pump is my boost leak pressure test kit :D And it works!!

Seriously though, my maf on the S-body was shocking... wouldnt let me rev past 4k... cleaned it with some carb cleaner (Carefully!) and im free revving now!

Just an option if it happens again dude!

Running 187bhp and fwd you will get eaten alive! but seriously you will tear me apart in 1st gear :(

cant wait to come up man! :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 15 July 2011, 17:47
jonny the golf will make you look a fool.. you will see - we will have a mess about, its stronger further into the gears it goes and thats wiht a broken MAF (which will be fixed tomo  :evil: :evil: :evil:

you should be good in 1st gear with 4WD so somehting is not right their mate
 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: golf-sib on 15 July 2011, 19:30
I've always cleaned my maf and temp sender that sits in the manifold and its been fine and still going at 78k  :undecided:

However when I cleaned the TB it died, the carb build up kept it going as the potentiometer was ruined and could not adjust even with a manual adjustment on it by sliding it across to the stock position. So goes both ways I suppose.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 16 July 2011, 08:40
When you clean the TB, It can cause problems but you are supposed to do a TB alignment with vagcom after cleaning.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 July 2011, 15:34
The New MAF from audi is fitted and wow what a transformation it has made :shocked: :shocked: back up to full power (although very very hard to test in the wet - spin city :laugh:)

whist testing, couple of lads in a 1997 EK9 Civic Type R thought mine was  just a 8v GTI and tried to leave me at the lights..He chose the wrong Golf to mess with because it was BYe Bye civic hahahaha..  to say he got a shock was a under statement  :laugh: :laugh:

Golf feels absolutly Rapid!!! :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 16 July 2011, 18:40
Man I love your respect stick your giving to the north right now haha :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 16 July 2011, 19:31
Man I love your respect stick your giving to the north right now haha :D

 :grin: :cool: :cool:

Doing it for the MK3 boys  :laugh: 

Love this car.. seems to be getting to feel faster !!!!  not sure if the ECU has now reset itself or somehting to accomodate the correct readings from the MAF.. either way, feels rapid  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: robz on 16 July 2011, 20:23
Haha, love it!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 July 2011, 21:53
Car goes off to bodyshop tomo for Full repaint.. should see it back in a week or so..

will get pics of work carried out. but its basically just a full repaint keeping it all OEM.

will be ready for VW Festival, Harewood house - Leeds
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 17 July 2011, 23:05
Full repaint in a week, drop off to pick up?

Unless he is working for 24hours on those 7 days i would like someone to take a bit more time over it!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 July 2011, 23:11
mate iv had a lot of cars painted - i know the deal  :wink: he is one of my best mates, and he knows full well how fussy i am  :laugh: :laugh:

and i did say A WEEK OR SO car is part stripped. rest will be done tomo. every panel is coming off apart from rear 1/4 and Roof obviously because these are part of the shell

It has no rust issues or any dints, so nothing major.

He also has a great bodyshop - Ovens etc so paint will be correctly cured :smiley:.. not no back street place anyhow so dont you worry. you should know by now i dont do crap  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 17 July 2011, 23:47
I totally know you will only want the best.

I just think perfection cant be rushed, lol.

You know my cars always in and out of places to seek perfection! I am a self diagnosed paintwork OCD.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 17 July 2011, 23:52
Hehe nothing wrong with that matey

I'm more than sure he will deliver the results I am looking for, if it takes him a bit longer I can live with it :-)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Mikester on 17 July 2011, 23:54
Hehe nothing wrong with that matey

I'm more than sure he will deliver the results I am looking for, if it takes him a bit longer I can live with it :-)

Being a felow Black car owner with a fresh painted front end.

When you get the first stone chip, which you will, its inevitable, with it being black and standing out, will you cry like i did?
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 July 2011, 00:12
I will be pissed off. I use the car everyday, I built it to enjoy. I am thinking of that film u can have fitted? On the bumper maybe ? If not I can just get my mate to paint it again haha
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 July 2011, 09:36
I will be pissed off. I use the car everyday, I built it to enjoy. I am thinking of that film u can have fitted? On the bumper maybe ? If not I can just get my mate to paint it again haha

I hate black cars at times, they look great with fresh paint and when they've just been cleaned but imperfections show up fast!  Both my cars are black, I've had my daily since it was brand spankers, it's two years old now and looks pretty cr@p up close, I painted the front of the golf not that long ago and the front valance already has chips and i've only done about 1500 miles in it!

get the film!
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Post by: Jimp on 18 July 2011, 09:49
I was asking about protective film recently. People said to go for film that lets in UV so that the car fades at the same rate all around. The anti-UV film ends up with the front of the car one colour and the back a different colour  :grin: It's difficult to fit too so make sure whoever fits the film is skilled :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 July 2011, 11:07
Yea I'll look into it, already sent a few companies a email. Nobody seems to list prices on line
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 July 2011, 19:13
Car now in my mates bodyshop, I wouldnt leave untill i had made sure my clean engine was well covered from dust, stripped the front end of complete, no wings no nothing, spent 2 hours coving every gap where dust could get into the bay (did my mates head in :laugh:) then wrapped the front of the car to double make sure haha, will be difficult rolling it into the ovens but hey ho

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2055/ddddyr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/ddddyr.jpg/)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8784/imageadi.jpg)

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Post by: Wayne on 18 July 2011, 20:36
Looking forward to more updates.
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Post by: dom on 18 July 2011, 22:03
Looking forward to more updates.

Agreed! Your paint was always pretty damn good anyway but once it's done it'll literally be perfect! All you need now is a magazine feature :cool:

Interior - Check
Engine - Check
Exterior - Check

 :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 18 July 2011, 22:25
yeah im interested in a magazine feature after all the hard work thats gone into it. between 3 of use, Myself, ben and my other close Mate jonny (paint) we have basically rebuilt this car fully!!

built not bought  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 18 July 2011, 23:42
Car now in my mates bodyshop, I wouldnt leave untill i had made sure my clean engine was well covered from dust, stripped the front end of complete, no wings no nothing, spent 2 hours coving every gap where dust could get into the bay (did my mates head in :laugh:) then wrapped the front of the car to double make sure haha, will be difficult rolling it into the ovens but hey ho

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2055/ddddyr.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/ddddyr.jpg/)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8784/imageadi.jpg)



Aww, why'd you go and put a paper bag over it's head!................... trying to resist... bad mk3 jokes trying to come out!....  :lipsrsealed:


Seriously though, be great to see the finished results although to us, it probably wont look any different in pictures!  Always looked mint anyway.   :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 July 2011, 09:03
On the hunt for total perfection tho :laugh:. I had age related stone chips to the front (its 19 years old this year). but my mate insisted he did the whole car. And at a price i couldnt refuse  :smiley:
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Post by: Bellend on 19 July 2011, 10:09
On the hunt for total perfection tho :laugh:. I had age related stone chips to the front (its 19 years old this year). but my mate insisted he did the whole car. And at a price i couldnt refuse  :smiley:

£4.99?
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Post by: F17BAD on 19 July 2011, 12:41
yeah 4.99 a month  :grin:

As said earleir the job is quoted at cica 3k mark.. but he is one of my better friends so obviously he has more than looked after me.. looking forward to getting it back

Drove one of his cars home last night (that he has got in to sell on) A Mazda RX8 230BHP.. and it felt SLOW!!! compaired to the golf. I rememebr driving one of these a few years ago and thought it was fast lol
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Post by: jonnypolish on 19 July 2011, 18:01
Mannnn i need a paint job!
RX8's do feel like poo powerwise to be fair!

I swearrrr your paint was near perfect anyway :D
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 19 July 2011, 21:47
was talking about you today matey hehe, jonnyu was asking about you

He wanted to put his stamp on the car i think - we just want it minty mint. OEM + styleee

Yeah the Rx8 felt weak mate..
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Post by: F17BAD on 20 July 2011, 22:26
A few more snaps

Shell prep will finish tomo and will be painted Friday latest, their is no damage or rust so its all straight forward work  :cool:

rest of panels will be painted next week, onlky bit of welding the car will be seeing is the ariel hole on the passenger wing  :smiley:

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2023/imagepya.jpg)

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6240/imageehqb.jpg)

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6661/imagefgn.jpg)
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Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 July 2011, 10:39
wow, after all that polishing it's had and they've gone and scratched off all the gloss!  :grin:
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Post by: F17BAD on 21 July 2011, 17:58
wow, after all that polishing it's had and they've gone and scratched off all the gloss!  :grin:

hehe yeah its not nice seeing it in bits again

The shell is painted, ill have pics at somepoint, busy on bens car at the mo. just broke off for tea  :smiley:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2011, 22:10
A few more pics from today, shell has had a few coats of L041


(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3125/imagelqu.jpg)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9349/imageixr.jpg)

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2731/imageaq.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3488/imageuzuh.jpg)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/210/imagezkvo.jpg)

 :cool:
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Post by: Toby on 22 July 2011, 22:13
looks smashin mate! looking forward to seeing this at some show's!  :evil: :evil:
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Post by: Rhyso on 22 July 2011, 22:16
Yum  :cool:
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Post by: richw911 on 22 July 2011, 22:34
Lush  :drool: :drool: :drool:  :cool: :cool: :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2011, 22:36
cheers guys  :smiley:
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Post by: thai-wronghorse on 22 July 2011, 22:39
Obviously it's hard to tell exactly by the photos but that really does look like a pukka job mate.
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Post by: The Doc on 22 July 2011, 22:41
Your not messing around are you?

Very impressed and it takes a lot  :wink:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2011, 22:42
Cheers  :cool:

just want the vision in my head to be a reality :smiley:
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Post by: Wayne on 22 July 2011, 23:03
Awesome  :cool:
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Post by: Khare on 22 July 2011, 23:09
Wowza! Nice one Brad :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 22 July 2011, 23:15
cheers  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 22 July 2011, 23:27
Nothing better than a good quality paint job :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: benvictors on 23 July 2011, 00:31
Nothing better than a good quality paint job :cool: :cool:
What about a good quality blowjob :shocked: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 23 July 2011, 00:32
Not much better than a good quality paint job :cool: :cool:
What about a good quality blowjob :shocked: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Good point, i'll amend! :wink: :grin:
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Post by: dan_apps on 23 July 2011, 15:53
:afro:
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Post by: Bellend on 23 July 2011, 15:58
 :cool:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2011, 18:27
Bit more work has been done today in the bodyshop
started taking Bonnet back to bare metal as im having special primer on the whole front end which is Black. its more expensive but is great for hiding any small chips and is also stronger than regular primer

(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9638/imagesmg.jpg)

and the bumper has been stripped and prep work started

(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7135/imageokf.jpg)

Car will be back with me for Friday next week (29th july)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Andy-H on 23 July 2011, 18:41
Just a question Mate but did you consider deleting the windscreen washer holes and fitting the Mk4 set up?

I'm planning this with mine when it gets repainted just for a cleaner look  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2011, 18:48
Just a question Mate but did you consider deleting the windscreen washer holes and fitting the Mk4 set up?

I'm planning this with mine when it gets repainted just for a cleaner look  :cool:

Yeah was considered but decided against it. You can quite easily distort the bonnet when welding on it and i want ZERO filler near my bonnet or anyplace else.. been their before and got the t shirt.. filler sinks.. maybe a month or a year but it sinks and moves, and more so on a bonnet

Trying to keep the car absolutly standard GTI spec bodywork, only thing to be welded up is the hole on the wing where the ariel used to be

Other non standard things planned is full stone chipping of the under sills etc which are behind the plastics sill trims and also bumpers
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 23 July 2011, 20:18
Just a question Mate but did you consider deleting the windscreen washer holes and fitting the Mk4 set up?

I'm planning this with mine when it gets repainted just for a cleaner look  :cool:

Yeah was considered but decided against it. You can quite easily distort the bonnet when welding on it and i want ZERO filler near my bonnet or anyplace else.. been their before and got the t shirt.. filler sinks.. maybe a month or a year but it sinks and moves, and more so on a bonnet

Trying to keep the car absolutly standard GTI spec bodywork, only thing to be welded up is the hole on the wing where the ariel used to be

Other non standard things planned is full stone chipping of the under sills etc which are behind the plastics sill trims and also bumpers

plus he didnt want to copy me lol, joking kells
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2011, 20:22
Wanna see some emotion from you on wednesday Roger  :grin:

Looking forward to seeing yours :cool:

 
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Post by: Wayne on 23 July 2011, 20:26
Looking forward to seeing this finished Brad :afro:
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Post by: F17BAD on 23 July 2011, 20:39
cheers wayne.. good speaking to you earlier Btw  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 23 July 2011, 20:40
Wanna see some emotion from you on wednesday Roger  :grin:

Looking forward to seeing yours :cool:

 

if i was in TOP GUN they would call me "ice"

No emotion, and heartless and at the same time a decent guy
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 23 July 2011, 20:42
cheers wayne.. good speaking to you earlier Btw  :smiley:

Yes, thanks was good to have a chat. :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 28 July 2011, 22:47
Its coming a long well, wont get the car back till next week, but here is what the paint is like and this is BEFORE its been flat and polished  :smiley:

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3239/paintx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/paintx.jpg/)

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Post by: SoundillusioN on 28 July 2011, 22:55
Its coming a long well, wont get the car back till next week, but here is what the paint is like and this is BEFORE its been flat and polished  :smiley:

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3239/paintx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/paintx.jpg/)




Looks sh*t!  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 28 July 2011, 23:20
Its coming a long well, wont get the car back till next week, but here is what the paint is like and this is BEFORE its been flat and polished  :smiley:

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3239/paintx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/paintx.jpg/)



Who's the bellend taking the picture?

 :laugh: :laugh: :kiss:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 28 July 2011, 23:22
The Bellend is my mate who is painting the car :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 28 July 2011, 23:24
The Bellend is my mate who is painting the car :wink:

Damn it!... we were hoping it was you!


Looks ace! Be good to see the whole car soon. :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 28 July 2011, 23:27
pictures of me are all over my Facebook if you are desperate to see me  :grin:

The give away that it is not me is the phone he is using, im Apple iPhone - he is using a Crapburry  :wink:

looking forward to seeing it too. will go down on the weekend :smiley:
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Post by: Wayne on 28 July 2011, 23:35
Looking foward to seeing it  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 12:45
Small modification to my clocks.

Liked the S3 logos on the dials of the S3, so i had some stickers made up exact replica but in black so they show on my dial faces which are silver

Iv put the sticker in the exact same location as it is on the S3 clocks. i really like the subtle mod, here is a couple of pics

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5861/imagezox.jpg)

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5774/imagekjz.jpg)
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Post by: Bellend on 30 July 2011, 13:21
Fair play.  :cool:

Hows that respray coming along?

I think you need to get on to James at E38 to get a mag feature of PVW.  :cool:

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Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 13:49
cheers dude, paint should be finished by wednesday

really cant wait  :cool:

Would be good for a Magazine article mate  :smiley:

P.S got those trims man, massive thanks for that, i need to sort you out for those bad boys
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Post by: Bellend on 30 July 2011, 13:51
cheers dude, paint should be finished by wednesday

really cant wait  :cool:

Would be good for a Magazine article mate  :smiley:

P.S got those trims man, massive thanks for that, i need to sort you out for those bad boys

Nice one, bet you can't. Can't wait 'til I'm in the position moneywise in a few years to do something like this to a car.  :cool:

No worries bud, just sort the postage mate.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 14:00
cheers dude, paint should be finished by wednesday

really cant wait  :cool:

Would be good for a Magazine article mate  :smiley:

P.S got those trims man, massive thanks for that, i need to sort you out for those bad boys

Nice one, bet you can't. Can't wait 'til I'm in the position moneywise in a few years to do something like this to a car.  :cool:

No worries bud, just sort the postage mate.  :cool:

Its not cheap to do it to this standard i wont lie, but its well worth it, just do what i did and take the time to plan it out. Makes the conversion run smooth. lets not forget we had never done anything like this before and after we had stripped the bits we needed of the green 16v car and also stripped mine we got the S3 engine in my car and running in 3 days  :smiley:

Let me know the postage costs mate and ill sort it, appreciate what ya did. those trims are now in the bodysho awaiting modifications to suit my pulled arches  :cool:
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Post by: Bellend on 30 July 2011, 14:14
Yeah but that's what makes it stand apart from most cars. It looks VW quality, not many modified cars (including mine by a massive shot) do.

Will do when I get a computer mate, no worries, you can just take me for a spin if I meet ya at a show.  :grin: :tongue:
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Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 15:05
Cheers dude  :cool: :cool:

are you going to edition 38 ??
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 July 2011, 15:10
Nice touch with the clocks.  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 30 July 2011, 21:26
Clocks look great, very subtle  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Diamond Hell on 30 July 2011, 21:29
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Fabla on 30 July 2011, 22:10
Clocks are really nice. I do like them!!  :wink:

Diamond Hell, go take some valium.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 30 July 2011, 22:16
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.


In a nutshell - I did all this because I just wanted to.

And more is to come  :wink:

Fabla - cheers  :smiley:


Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 July 2011, 22:41
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.

Doesn't really matter does it?  He's happy.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: apie2004 on 30 July 2011, 22:56
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.

Doesn't really matter does it?  He's happy.

DH Happy?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 30 July 2011, 22:57
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.

Doesn't really matter does it?  He's happy.

DH Happy?

No, Brad.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 31 July 2011, 01:04
If you wanted an S3 then why not buy an S3?

If you wanted a Golf3 with an S3 engine in the front of it, why start putting S3 decals on it?  It's not an S3, it's a Golf3

An S3 is Haldex 4WD and can deploy its power and will handle with it.

Your 2WD non-LSD (last I checked) is surely going to torque-steer like a fool.  :huh:

Built to be driven?  Not built to be driven hard though.




In a nutshell - I did all this because I just wanted to.

And more is to come  :wink:

Fabla - cheers  :smiley:




In a nut shell brad you did it cos you can :smiley:

DH, never read your build thread but it must be boring
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 July 2011, 09:29
Is Damon Hill trying it again??  :huh: I've looked at his thread. All it is, is he talks about how fast he can go round corners in his "beat up" synchro and get his ego massaged by a few followers.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 31 July 2011, 10:08
Funny how he STFU til he can find some tiny flaw in his mind.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 31 July 2011, 12:39
To be fair, putting S3 badges on a G3 just because it's got a 1.8T engine does look pretty pretentious IMHO.

It's not the engine that makes the car otherwise octavia's and anni's and leons would all have S3 badges on them.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 13:06
To be fair, putting S3 badges on a G3 just because it's got a 1.8T engine does look pretty pretentious IMHO.

It's not the engine that makes the car otherwise octavia's and anni's and leons would all have S3 badges on them.

opinions - we are all entitled to them  :kiss:

however, the engine in the S3 is much different to that found in Octavia's, annies and normal Cupras. Do ya research bext time  :wink:

Its got a audi S3 engine in it, as much as you or others dont like that its a fact.. would you be saying the same if i had fitted the Audi clocks which have the S3 logo on ??

Is it Pretenteous i have Porsche logos on the Porsche rims ?

Is it pretenteous i have Recaro stictched into my Recaro seats ??

Or is it all just pretenteous becasue of the Green eyed monster ???

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 31 July 2011, 13:13
To be fair, putting S3 badges on a G3 just because it's got a 1.8T engine does look pretty pretentious IMHO.

It's not the engine that makes the car otherwise octavia's and anni's and leons would all have S3 badges on them.

opinions - we are all entitled to them  :kiss:

however, the engine in the S3 is much different to that found in Octavia's, annies and normal Cupras. Do ya research bext time  :wink:

Its got a audi S3 engine in it, as much as you or others dont like that its a fact.. would you be saying the same if i had fitted the Audi clocks which have the S3 logo on ??

Is it Pretenteous i have Porsche logos on the Porsche rims ?

Is it pretenteous i have Recaro stictched into my Recaro seats ??

Or is it all just pretenteous becasue of the Green eyed monster ???



Haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 31 July 2011, 13:18
off we go again  :grin:

Followers, hahahaha says the followers on this thread  :rolleyes:

and before the DH mate thing comes up  :smug:

 i have already said, this is the ONLY mk3 i would consider owning, but i would remove the wheels for summat true vag not porka  :undecided:

doesnt that make me a follower too  :rolleyes:

and as said before, fair play to kells for  :shocked:

1, doing this conversion :afro:

2, paying what he did for the lump to do it.  :cool:

Everyones views are different, and EVERYONE can post their views, its a free to use open forum, dont like it, dont post , simples  :tongue:

time for some

(http://chan.catiewayne.com/m/src/131163312178.gif)

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dmonday on 31 July 2011, 13:24
Bored of other peoples opinions and what they would do with the car if they owned it and just DH in general. I want to see more of this car pretty please?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 13:31
Cheers danny mate.

Lots more pics once i get down to the bodyshop - had a very heavy weekend head is a shed  :laugh: so ill be going to see the car tomo

Chuff, fair comment  :smiley: 

built the Car to please myself. i never expected everyone to appreciate all the work done or mods that are on it. I guess im not doing too bad if some tiny decals on the clocks are all thats to moan about  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 31 July 2011, 13:32
Chuff, fair comment  :smiley: 

 :wink:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jack3559 on 31 July 2011, 13:48
I never said it was anything other than my opinion.

It's a tidy car with a lovely engine and I'd be proud to own it.

But obviously, because we are different there are little things that I would have done differently.

Aren't offering opinions on things the point of a public forum?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 13:58
yea i never said it wasnt. :smiley:

you were wrong tho in regard to thinking the engine is the same as whats found in annies, octavias and normal Cupras

lots of differances, even the early S3 engines (APY CODE) have diferences from the later and better AMK / BAM :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Bellend on 31 July 2011, 14:00
Go crash it into a fence then it can be like mine, to my taste.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 31 July 2011, 18:59
yea i never said it wasnt. :smiley:

you were wrong tho in regard to thinking the engine is the same as whats found in annies, octavias and normal Cupras

lots of differances, even the early S3 engines (APY CODE) have diferences from the later and better AMK / BAM :wink:

Im not to familiar with the details of these engines, what are the variances in power output etc?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 31 July 2011, 19:02
yea i never said it wasnt. :smiley:

you were wrong tho in regard to thinking the engine is the same as whats found in annies, octavias and normal Cupras

lots of differances, even the early S3 engines (APY CODE) have diferences from the later and better AMK / BAM :wink:

Im not to familiar with the details of these engines, what are the variances in power output etc?

It is a minefield tbh, Leon Cupra, Octavia RS and Golf Anni (plus a few non Anni) had 180bhp, Cupra R and early S3 had 210bhp, they then switched to the 225bhp lump, I think the Cupra R ended with the same in the end as well.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 31 July 2011, 19:05
Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 31 July 2011, 19:09
Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.

Well in a roundabout way the 1.8t was 150/180/210 or 225bhp but so many codes etc and some are rated more than others.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Jamin on 31 July 2011, 19:14
This car is bonkers....I love it and think the S3 badge is a nice touch.

Don't hate the player......have the game  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tshirt2k on 31 July 2011, 19:25
Oh blimey that much difference, now i understand why people would choose to be so particular on the donor vehicle then.

Main differences are turbos and vvt. K03 and k03s in normal 1.8t's. These are normally 150/180hp and will remap to 190hp(k03) and 210/225(k03s). The TT/S3/LCR (210/225hp) 1.8t comes with a k04, along with different injectors,vvt and lower compression ratio, will remap to 260/270hp.
That's why these engines are in higher demand.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 19:38
 :smiley: cheers mate


Regarding engines, theirs so much differences between the engines found in the notmal 20vt cars and then the S3/Cupra R/ Certain TT's

You can easy spot the difference by which side the throttle body is on. On waynes 180bhp, and on all the normal 20vt engines it sites on the left hand side of the inlet manifold

On the high output engines (APY, AMK, BAM) it sits on the right, you also get the bigger K04 turbo on these plus loads of other bits although the APY is not as good as the AMK/BAM.

AMK / BAM have stuff like VVT,

The only difference between the AMK and the Bam engines is the Map on the ECU. Audi wanted the then new out TT to be up on power over the S3 so it was mapped down. later facelift S3 and Cupra R got the Bam too

AMK does have bigger gudgeon pins and is regarded to be the stronger and more sought after (i have this engine in mine :nerd:)

take a read here

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-forum-8l-chassis/90968-amk-bam-engine.html

and also take a look at this

 (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/734/spreadsheetpic.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/spreadsheetpic.jpg/)


Here is a pic of a Audi TT with the 180bhp engine as found in the annie and Octavia VRS - notich the engine cover shape and also the throttle body on the left

(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/254/tt180engine.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/tt180engine.jpg/)

And hereis my AMK S3 lump, look at engine cover and also throttle body to the right. also notice the charge pipes down the left side of the engine, different shape manifold etc

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3681/imagegqd.jpg)


Very sought after engines hence the price they go for (for a good one)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Wayne on 31 July 2011, 19:42
Very handy guide :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 31 July 2011, 19:47
it is yea, needs a few bits filling in still, but basically AMK / BAM are same , forge crank, vvt large injectors etc
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 09:43
Small video with some of the conversion pics all thrown in...

http://youtu.be/xWr-YsCTmVo

 :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 02 August 2011, 20:45
Awesome work and an amazing classic track.  :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 21:07
cheers  :cool:

(The track was selected from my vast record collection - such a epic record it is too)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 02 August 2011, 21:11
Nice little video and a flipping awesome tune :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 21:20
Really is a epic track.. Should feel the energy when it gets dropped in a club of like minded folk... even better at a illegal event outdoors when the sun is just coming up... :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

BIG track indeed
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dom on 02 August 2011, 21:31
Really is a epic track.. Should feel the energy when it gets dropped in a club of like minded folk... even better at a illegal event outdoors when the sun is just coming up... :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

BIG track indeed

I'll have to check out one of your nights when I make the move over to Donny :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 21:53
Nice little vid and i'm guessing all the pics are pre respray....  :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 21:57
the pics are all PRE respray yes..

been told i should have the car back saturday.. been down today to check up on it and all is well, most importantly the engine is dust free and my covering up and packing of it has worked (OCD)  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 21:58
the pics are all PRE respray yes..

been told i should have the car back saturday.. been down today to check up on it and all is well, most importantly the engine is dust free and my covering up and packing of it has worked (OCD)  :grin:
Good, well you need to re-edit your video when done so you can show what appears to be mint paint being stripped off and repainted!  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 22:05
 :grin:   :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 22:09
:grin:   :laugh:

Well it would look a bit mad on youtube to those that don't know the car.. You could put in the comments that you got a stone chip and this is how you deal with it... OCD for sure.  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 02 August 2011, 22:20
Its all got out of hand... this car was intended to be only a runner for my club nite (taking international DJs to and from airports and hotels, and to the Events etc)

and 5 years on and we have what we see today....   :evil:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: SoundillusioN on 02 August 2011, 22:27
Its all got out of hand... this car was intended to be only a runner for my club nite (taking international DJs to and from airports and hotels, and to the Events etc)

and 5 years on and we have what we see today....   :evil:

 :grin:

Mine was just going to have a new set of wheels when I bought it and the car would have been complete!  :laugh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: tdi_blu on 03 August 2011, 09:07
As already said awsome work and I like the little video  :wink:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 12:33
Why have you got an Audi S3 cover on the engine from a Leon Cupra R? :huh:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: jamrock on 03 August 2011, 13:01
once again kells.... :cool:

Trackstar as well!!!
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 13:29
Why have you got an Audi S3 cover on the engine from a Leon Cupra R? :huh:

Dont like Cupra one cheepo carbon crap insert

dont like S3 cover coz its RED 5V part

this is actually off a TT that uses the BAM engine  :wink:

Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 13:30
once again kells.... :cool:

Trackstar as well!!!

thanks mate :cool:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 20:10
Why have you got an Audi S3 cover on the engine from a Leon Cupra R? :huh:

Dont like Cupra one cheepo carbon crap insert

dont like S3 cover coz its RED 5V part

this is actually off a TT that uses the BAM engine  :wink:



Nice motor and lots of respect but but what warrants the clocks having S3 or the title if the engine is not from an S3?

What is from an S3?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 03 August 2011, 20:14
Nice car Brad, looks like you proved Damon Hill wrong after all  :grin:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 21:21
Cheers mate. He under estimated me I think haha

Adam, does the AMK and BAM engine not come from S3's ? LOL!!

Just because this particular one came from a LCR does not mean sh!t lol. I mean u wouldn't remove your S3 badge off your S3 if u got a replacement engine from a LCR due to failure of your original unit would you ?

It's the exact same engine, easier to say it's from a S3 because many people don't realise the LCR has the same lump..

If this sh!t is all u can moan about then I'm doing really well hahaha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 21:26
Don't get pissy with me! I was just confused hahaha
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 21:53
Don't get pissy with me! I was just confused hahaha

Eh are you having a giraffe ? I would have thought you were coming across a bit iffy tbh lol

You are asking absolutely stupid things and you know it (or at least I hope u do) haha

If it helps, the engine has no Seat logos on it, just Audi and VW. even the ECU has a VW logo on it (what a surprise)

All the service parts bought  were from a Audi dealer and were S3 parts

The engine is a Audi engine which the LCR borrows
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 21:55
Don't get pissy with me! I was just confused hahaha

Eh are you having a giraffe ? I would have thought you were coming across a bit iffy tbh lol

You are asking absolutely stupid things and you know it (or at least I hope u do) haha

If it helps, the engine has no Seat logos on it, just Audi and VW. even the ECU has a VW logo on it (what a surprise)

All the service parts bought  were from a Audi dealer and were S3 parts

The engine is a Audi engine which the LCR borrows

I thought it was a good question as to why.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 22:10
All you need to know is this is the audi S3 sngine, and to those that are not familiar with a LCR thats all they need to know too  :wink:

And what a great engine it is too :smiley:

If you missed what has already been said in the past, it took me a very very long time to find a AMK or BAM with the miles on i wanted. now i did not give a monkeys if this came from a TT, a LCR or a S3 as long as it met my demands

these were miles on the clock and also it had to be still in the donor car

considered buyin a full S3 to break - most have massive miles

Got lucky with this engine, 40k. came with everything i needed even the clocks and was also offered the S3 clocks too if i wanted which i didnt

i sold the LCR clocks for £80 and i sold some other bits i did not need

i have the engine in my golf i wanted. Its easier to say S3 to people rather than LCR.. (i do know a alot of peopel who are not into cars y'know  :rolleyes:, but who are actually interested in the work done)

hope this helps your confusion
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 22:16
Me thinks I hit a nerve :undecided:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan34 on 03 August 2011, 22:17
You trying to convince Adam or yourself Kells?
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 03 August 2011, 22:25
I can appreciate the effort gone into this, and I envy the fact you've got a car which is essentially what I'd like from my MK3. However I don't have the money to do such a thing nor will I for quite a long time.

I don't like the fact you've put an S3 sticker on the dials, in my honest opinion it looks tacky, and regardless of engine coming from S3 or not, the car is still a MK3 on the face of it, you should be proud of that fact and not face it with something it actually isn't.

That being said, looking forward to the respray pics. :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: dan_apps on 03 August 2011, 22:29
nice work kells, looks good :afro:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 August 2011, 22:36
its bad in't it brad

No one has had the pleasure of looking at your car in the flesh like i have and the only thing they can do is pick at a little S3 badge you like

Car is amazing, great interior, great engine, soon to have a great body

and at least you can sleep well at night knowing boldy locks likes it (private joke)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Adam on 03 August 2011, 22:38
I think this could be the nicest MK3 I have seen. Just pointing something out that confused me thats all :)
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: Dan34 on 03 August 2011, 22:39
I think this could be the nicest MK3 I have seen. Just pointing something out that confused me thats all :)

+1 its a great car, no doubting that! Just you did seem to bite abit at Adams comment.
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: JC on 03 August 2011, 22:44
better ground bait than DH Adam  :laugh:



kells - i wouldnt have a clue what engines are where past 1991, never have, and to be fair doubt it ever will.

 and thought yours WAS out of an S3.   :shocked:

So it confused the fcuk outta me with LCR as i didnt know that either.   :smiley:
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: F17BAD on 03 August 2011, 22:47
cheers Kirk fella, very nice of you to say and respect due for the comment, same to you dan_apps :wink:

seems the green eyed monster keeps popping its ugly head in this thread from time to time via certain forum members which is a real shame. Built this car for ME and how i want it to be.. if iv took what any of you have said wrong ill take it back but its just how it sometimes seems to me and im sure you can all understand this with some of the hassle iv had in the past.

For example, if somebody like Adam questions something so small its easy for me to take you worng, im not here to hate, id rather participate - i know im not the most popular on this forum but im not asking anyone to like me or the car but please just try and respect the huge effort iv put in on this, myself and Ben have worked very hard.. could have paid some garage to do it but id rather build than buy..

i could have bought a S3 with what this cost, or a LCR or many other cars but i wanted to see this one through and make what is my dream GTI Golf.

just hope some people enjoy reading the build thread like i do many others.



On a side notr - Dan 34 LOL, whats to convince ??? are you saying the engine under my hood is not the same one as what you will find under the hood of a S3?  because really, it actually is the very same...
this really is pathetic sh!t and i cant actually believe we have to have this sort of discussion.

Paint should be completed this weekend, possibly just after.. cant wait to get it back its looking really good

Roger LOL  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

P.s cheers adam for that comment :wink:

Chuff - your a great example - too confusing saying LCR as many poeple think they are the 180 engine, the R ones in the mk1 were the AMK / BAM borrowed from the S3 but WITHOUT HALDEX meaning they are 2WD 
Title: Re: F17BAD G3 GTI. S3 TURBO
Post by: CCGTI on 03 August 2011, 22:48