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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Leroy123 on 11 August 2022, 22:58
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So I've had my mk7 GTI for 4 days and I am slightly disappointed with the way it sounds. I had a Mk5 GTI before and the exhaust sound was much deeper and the engine was less refined. Imo the Mk5 sounds better than the Mk7. This is when the car is idling and accelerating.
Everything else about the car feels and looks fantastic and (imo) is better than the mk5. It's just the sound.
So, can anyone recommend anything. Back box? Resonator delete?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Do you know you've posted your questions in the Mk8 gallery pages mate?
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Moved :)
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Cheapest would be Res Delete.
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Fit the Clubsport S rear muffler. Job done.
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Res delete is superb
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Is the resonator delete a cut and weld job or a replacement piece of pipe?
I am always wary of making 4 cylinder cars louder as they can sound a bit chav, but could do with a bit more aural enjoyment from mine as well.
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Cut the Resonator out, bolt a straight pipe in. it WILL drone for the first few hundred miles but as it beds in the drone will go away.
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I gather that the most restrictive part of the Mk7 GTI setup is the downpipe
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Cut the Resonator out, bolt a straight pipe in. it WILL drone for the first few hundred miles but as it beds in the drone will go away.
Are you implying a piece of pipe "beds in"?
That's not how it works :undecided:
The catalytic converter kills off and muffles a lot of the exhaust sound. Go with a decatted exhaust if you want a little throaty exhaust tone.
Replace the center resonator in the car with a straight section of pipe and keep the rear silencer. Will gain a nice bit of sound and have zero drone in the cabin
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One problem I can see is that a resonator delete is going to be spotted by your insurance company, and I found that by getting a quote with it declared adds a fair bit to the premium.
However the Clubsport back box looks exactly the same externally as the standard GTI item, so is very unlikely to be spotted.
it costs a bit more initially but could work out cheaper in a year or two.
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One problem I can see is that a resonator delete is going to be spotted by your insurance company, and I found that by getting a quote with it declared adds a fair bit to the premium.
However the Clubsport back box looks exactly the same externally as the standard GTI item, so is very unlikely to be spotted.
it costs a bit more initially but could work out cheaper in a year or two.
I don’t want to sound as if I’m taking the moral high ground and apologies if it comes over that way, but for anyone considering modifying their car, please always the declare mods to the insurance company, as not doing so could invalidate the insurance if found out.
If someone’s unfortunate enough to have an accident, they make a claim and their car is inspected by their insurance company and an undeclared res delete (or any other undeclared modification for that matter) is spotted, it could end up being much more costly than not declaring it;
- The insurance company refuses to pay the claim.
- The person committing a non disclosure offence may have their details added to the insurance fraud register (accessible to other insurance companies) for failing to disclose all the information an insurance company needs to calculate the correct premium.
- Committing a non disclosure offence and / or being on the fraud register could affect a person’s ability to get insurance at an affordable premium in future, and they’d also need to disclose it when applying for insurance in future.
- Insurance fraud is a criminal offence, if convicted of it the person committing the offence ends up with a criminal record.
So IMHO, it’s not worth taking the risk.
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Are you implying a piece of pipe "beds in"?
That's not how it works :undecided:
Yes it is ask anyone who has had a new exhaust fitted, as they get carbon build up they get quieter. The res delete will be boomy for a few hundred miles and then will settle down. Happens with all new exhausts.
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One problem I can see is that a resonator delete is going to be spotted by your insurance company, and I found that by getting a quote with it declared adds a fair bit to the premium.
However the Clubsport back box looks exactly the same externally as the standard GTI item, so is very unlikely to be spotted.
it costs a bit more initially but could work out cheaper in a year or two.
I don’t want to sound as if I’m taking the moral high ground and apologies if it comes over that way, but for anyone considering modifying their car, please always the declare mods to the insurance company, as not doing so could invalidate the insurance if found out.
If someone’s unfortunate enough to have an accident, they make a claim and their car is inspected by their insurance company and an undeclared res delete (or any other undeclared modification for that matter) is spotted, it could end up being much more costly than not declaring it;
- The insurance company refuses to pay the claim.
- The person committing a non disclosure offence may have their details added to the insurance fraud register (accessible to other insurance companies) for failing to disclose all the information an insurance company needs to calculate the correct premium.
- Committing a non disclosure offence and / or being on the fraud register could affect a person’s ability to get insurance at an affordable premium in future, and they’d also need to disclose it when applying for insurance in future.
- Insurance fraud is a criminal offence, if convicted of it the person committing the offence ends up with a criminal record.
So IMHO, it’s not worth taking the risk.
I agree, but where do you draw the line with regards to what classes as a modification? You could replace the brake pads, tyres, shock absorbers with a different brand and technically the car isn't standard.
A TCR exhaust is a standard VW part, is a direct fit and looks just like the original. Why would that be much different from fitting a pattern replacement part from a local tyre and exhaust centre?
If you fitted a stainless, cat back system or a piece that removed silencers that was obviously different to the original then I would agree it was a modification though.
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I agree, but where do you draw the line with regards to what classes as a modification? You could replace the brake pads, tyres, shock absorbers with a different brand and technically the car isn't standard.
A TCR exhaust is a standard VW part, is a direct fit and looks just like the original. Why would that be much different from fitting a pattern replacement part from a local tyre and exhaust centre?
If you fitted a stainless, cat back system or a piece that removed silencers that was obviously different to the original then I would agree it was a modification though.
Some insurance companies include an explanation in their policy of what they consider to a modification they would need to know about. In general terms it seems that anything that changes the spec of the car as it left the factory is a modification.
However…………I believe some insurance companies also want to know about factory fitted options (I think Direct Line is - or used to be - one such company) and that’s where it gets interesting; how would a second, third or later owner know which items of equipment were extra cost options and which were part of standard spec?
I don’t think we’ll ever understand the way insurance companies operate, but I’d say if in doubt over whether any changes a person makes to their car is a modification their insurer needs to know about, then it’s better to tell them than not tell them about it. Better safe than sorry.
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how would a second, third or later owner know which items of equipment were extra cost options and which were part of standard spec?
VIN decoder
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My insurance only asked for modifications fitted after the car was new.
I think that seems to be the way with most now.
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Just have to say I completely agree with the OP. Crap exhaust note is the only thing I can fault on my GTi PP. coming from a S3, the sound is bit of a let down.
I’ve seen both Clubsport and TCR back boxes mentioned. Assume TCR part for a 7.5 but does it really make that much difference? Listened to a fair few YouTube vids and I’m still not convinced.
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I've had a TCR backbox on my 7.5 for almost a year now. It definitely makes a noticeable difference but at the same time it looks and sounds OEM. Given the insulation on these cars it's still not loud in the cabin (roughly the same as the sport soundaktor but it only makes noise at expected moments not just constantly whenever your foot is down), but if you take out your parcel shelf or have the windows down it's much louder than stock. I also gather there's a very big difference between the two from outside the car, but I'm yet to trust anybody to drive it so I can hear...
I have a manual and in the last couple of months I've started getting some minor pops on gear changes and can also get a pretty loud DSG style "fart" if traction control kicks in in first gear and cuts the power.
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I also gather there's a very big difference between the two from outside the car, but I'm yet to trust anybody to drive it so I can hear...
I find the sound of my TCR to be just right, not too noisy but nice and deep. It's useful too, when I have to pick my OH up from a night out with her mates, she can hear me arriving, saves her having to wait outside the pub!
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I also gather there's a very big difference between the two from outside the car, but I'm yet to trust anybody to drive it so I can hear...
I find the sound of my TCR to be just right, not too noisy but nice and deep. It's useful too, when I have to pick my OH up from a night out with her mates, she can hear me arriving, saves her having to wait outside the pub!
:grin: :grin:
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I went to look at a Golf R at the weekend and it had a straight piped valvetronic Armytrix exhaust... The inner child in me came out. Holy sh!ttt! Great thing is that it does quieten down a lot when the valves are closed, still loudish though. Safe to say, I was not disappointed with the sound it made :grin:
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Can get a better sound in the cabin by turning the soundaktor off and folding the back seats down lol
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Gone are the days of wanting a noisy exhaust, at 52 I much prefer a quieter ride to be able to take orders off the Mrs and listening to the radio. :smiley: :smiley:
Had noisy exhausts before and they quickly become tiresome after the novelty wears off.
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Gone are the days of wanting a noisy exhaust, at 52 I much prefer a quieter ride to be able to take orders off the Mrs and listening to the radio. :smiley: :smiley:
Had noisy exhausts before and they quickly become tiresome after the novelty wears off.
I only love the loud noise if you can switch it off haha. I couldn't turn up to a meeting in straight piped Golf R. In 2017 I made that mistake with a previous car and had to creep out of clients car parks with zero throttle... very embarrassing :grin:
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Gone are the days of wanting a noisy exhaust, at 52 I much prefer a quieter ride to be able to take orders off the Mrs and listening to the radio. :smiley: :smiley:
Had noisy exhausts before and they quickly become tiresome after the novelty wears off.
Noisy exhausts on 4 cylinder cars don't really do it for me either.
A nice tuneful 5 or more cylinders is a bit different, but with a 4 you can quite easy make the car sound like a Barryboys Vauxhall Corsa.