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Title: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 09 December 2018, 20:18
Hello MK7 GTI Owners

From reading around, I have seen 3 popular / cost effective upgrades to the stock MK7 GTI system (rather than going for a full new system).

1) Remus Rear Box Delete with new tips
2) VagSport resonator delete
3) Clubsport S muffler /silencer

I am personally looking for

A) Louder DSG Farts
B) More burble
C) Improved tone/enhanced sound
D ) Overall more agressive/sporty
E) Little to no drone

Like most I think... not looking for boy racer'esc noise, but something which ticks the above and puts a big smile on your face!

Ive tried searching (for hours) and seen different reviews here and there, but thought it be nice to hear from UK based owners amd compile a good comparison for all to review.

Anyone with real life experience of any of the above please comment on how it stacks up against the above and youre general thoughrs opinions etc all very much welcomed!

Look forward to hearing from you all.

Many thanks
MT3
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 10 December 2018, 09:31
I've had a look into replacing the exhaust myself but I'm still happy with the standard system. It makes a lot more noise than what most owners think.

However, for the price, I'd go for the Clubsport S rear muffler mod which seems very popular. Failing that I'd go all out and go for the full Akrapovic system but at £3,500, it's not cheap. £4,500 if you want the rear diffuser.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 10 December 2018, 11:36
I've been tempted for the res delete from Progressive Parts. But the exhaust noise on mine is definitely more than my previous 230 GTI despite the lack of upshift farts. Does a little pop flurry when fired up from cold  :cool:
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 10 December 2018, 16:14
Presume you’re after this sound?!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bqg7EhCjW-F/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1dfx0qb7kghcn

Would be nice if it was switchable!
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 10 December 2018, 19:58
Yeah that sounds pretty much what Im after! Like that
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 10 December 2018, 20:00
I've had a look into replacing the exhaust myself but I'm still happy with the standard system. It makes a lot more noise than what most owners think.

However, for the price, I'd go for the Clubsport S rear muffler mod which seems very popular. Failing that I'd go all out and go for the full Akrapovic system but at £3,500, it's not cheap. £4,500 if you want the rear diffuser.

Thanks for your reply @Ryan90GTI

What would make you go for the Clubsport S muffler over the others, just general popularity? Cheers
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 10 December 2018, 20:03
I've been tempted for the res delete from Progressive Parts. But the exhaust noise on mine is definitely more than my previous 230 GTI despite the lack of upshift farts. Does a little pop flurry when fired up from cold  :cool:

Thanks for reply Jim.. interesting

Whats different about yours from your previous (sorry may have missed something obvious!)

And yes that instagram vid is pretty much spot on!
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 11 December 2018, 09:46
I've been tempted for the res delete from Progressive Parts. But the exhaust noise on mine is definitely more than my previous 230 GTI despite the lack of upshift farts. Does a little pop flurry when fired up from cold  :cool:

Thanks for reply Jim.. interesting

Whats different about yours from your previous (sorry may have missed something obvious!)

And yes that instagram vid is pretty much spot on!

I had a std Mk7.5 GTI last year (with DSG upshift farts) and would say the Performance model I have now makes a louder noise but with no upshift noise but the odd burble.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 11 December 2018, 21:50
I've been tempted for the res delete from Progressive Parts. But the exhaust noise on mine is definitely more than my previous 230 GTI despite the lack of upshift farts. Does a little pop flurry when fired up from cold  :cool:

Thanks for reply Jim.. interesting

Whats different about yours from your previous (sorry may have missed something obvious!)

And yes that instagram vid is pretty much spot on!

I had a std Mk7.5 GTI last year (with DSG upshift farts) and would say the Performance model I have now makes a louder noise but with no upshift noise but the odd burble.

Makes sense!
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: andy28 on 11 December 2018, 22:16
Hi MT3, welcome!

I thought I'd add my view to your conundrum...

I had a GTI MK7.5 (non-performance) and I was looking for a bit more from the exhaust. I did quite a bit of research and ordered the Clubsport S backbox as it sounded great on videos (never had the chance to hear one in the flesh). Clearly I didn't do quite enough research as there were some very slight changes to the rear diffuser on the 7.5 facelift meaning that it wouldn't fit!

Not to be defeated, I then looked for alternatives and found the remus backbox delete. Again, I thought it sounded great on videos... Motech have quite a few on YouTube. This option had various clamps which could be adjusted to fit the mk7 or the 7.5 so I went ahead and ordered one at Awesome GTI near Manchester.

In the meantime, I saw a good deal on a Clubsport so I traded in my GTI MK7.5. I fitted the Remus backbox to my Clubsport about 6 months ago - see pic.

(https://i.postimg.cc/rFZg1XTY/DSC-1531-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3dpghqdg)

For me, it all depends on the type of driving you do. My commute is mostly country roads so I enjoy the burbles and pops from my exhaust. Particularly the fireworks in DSG Sport or manual. Driving with constant revs over 3,000 on the motorway though is quite tiring as there is noticeable drone. I did a long journey a few weekends ago and was tempted to go back to my original exhaust!

If I had a MK7, I think I would go for the Clubsport S backbox as it gives slightly larger tailpipes than the MK7 (same size as Clubsport and 7.5 and slightly smaller than the remus), with a better note and (I assume) limited drone given it is OEM. It was about £300 from a main dealer excluding fitting as far as I remember.

Whilst I don't have any experience of it, there are a few guys on here with the VagSport/ Progressive Parts res delete and are very happy. They have also commented that there is no drone so it might be an option if you do lots of motorway driving. It's also much cheaper I think (<£200).

Finally, if you do actually have a MK7.5, I saw this advertised today which seems like a good price (Awesome GTI ebay shop). Clearly I can't comment on how that might sound though - I'm guessing loud!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Milltek-Cat-Back-Non-Res-System-VW-Golf-Mk7-5-GTi-incl-GTi-Performance-Pack-/264043426589?fbclid=IwAR3LePn85zhjGsPrWzvauovnlrLJLPylhRSqWRod8N5jWkRcS2XBC36jfDA

Have fun with the youtube searching and let us know which route you go down.

Andy
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 11 December 2018, 23:53
If I had a MK7, I think I would go for the Clubsport S backbox as it gives slightly larger tailpipes than the MK7 (same size as Clubsport and 7.5 and slightly smaller than the remus), with a better note and (I assume) limited drone given it is OEM. It was about £300 from a main dealer excluding fitting as far as I remember.

THIS!
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MrJollygood on 12 December 2018, 12:32
Keeping a close eye on this thread...

Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: jaceyboy on 12 December 2018, 15:16
Res delete!!
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: mike roberts on 12 December 2018, 15:38
What's the benefit of the CSS one??
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Exonian on 12 December 2018, 16:27
A Clubsport S silencer has the benefits of being OEM and under the radar of insurance (not that I’d advocate not telling the insurance company but.. ) plus a main dealer would never notice the different part.


I went to an open day at a well known local VW specialist back in the summer and a guy turned up in an R with a res delete. I’m not sure what other mods he had, a good few I’d imagine, but God Almighty did it sound rough!
The proprietor of said establishment made a few comments about the noise and general consensus was less than positive going by the amount of Gareth Hunt coffee type gestures being subtly made. (Anyone under 40 will have absolutely no idea what I mean there!)

Hopefully all res deletes aren’t the same but if they are then your neighbours won't like you much. 
Definitely something you’d want to hear on someone else’s car before getting the angle grinder out.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: mike roberts on 12 December 2018, 16:58
Radar understood. Is it lighter/louder?

I’m too old for shouty crap.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: jaceyboy on 12 December 2018, 17:08
A Clubsport S silencer has the benefits of being OEM and under the radar of insurance (not that I’d advocate not telling the insurance company but.. ) plus a main dealer would never notice the different part.


I went to an open day at a well known local VW specialist back in the summer and a guy turned up in an R with a res delete. I’m not sure what other mods he had, a good few I’d imagine, but God Almighty did it sound rough!
The proprietor of said establishment made a few comments about the noise and general consensus was less than positive going by the amount of Gareth Hunt coffee type gestures being subtly made. (Anyone under 40 will have absolutely no idea what I mean there!)

Hopefully all res deletes aren’t the same but if they are then your neighbours won't like you much. 
Definitely something you’d want to hear on someone else’s car before getting the angle grinder out.

Our resonator delete sounds superb, it’s my wife’s car so I can assure you it isn’t loud, it’s gives more burbles and believe me there is no drone at all, well worth while and best thing is it’s reversable
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: monsta on 12 December 2018, 17:19
The danger with the res delete is the drone.  The CSS back box is definitely the best option in my opinion.  Unless you want to look aftermarket and have some remus tips sticking out.

I have read though that some who have fitted the CSS back box found it too loud!

Either way if anyone is feeling trigger happy...

https://cars245.co.uk/item/audi-volkswagen-5G6253609DD-rear-silencer/
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Exonian on 12 December 2018, 17:20
A Clubsport S silencer has the benefits of being OEM and under the radar of insurance (not that I’d advocate not telling the insurance company but.. ) plus a main dealer would never notice the different part.


I went to an open day at a well known local VW specialist back in the summer and a guy turned up in an R with a res delete. I’m not sure what other mods he had, a good few I’d imagine, but God Almighty did it sound rough!
The proprietor of said establishment made a few comments about the noise and general consensus was less than positive going by the amount of Gareth Hunt coffee type gestures being subtly made. (Anyone under 40 will have absolutely no idea what I mean there!)

Hopefully all res deletes aren’t the same but if they are then your neighbours won't like you much. 
Definitely something you’d want to hear on someone else’s car before getting the angle grinder out.

Our resonator delete sounds superb, it’s my wife’s car so I can assure you it isn’t loud, it’s gives more burbles and believe me there is no drone at all, well worth while and best thing is it’s reversable

Maybe the guy had a decat as well.
I didn’t speak to him to ask.

It’s definitely a mod I’d have considered myself in the past so was disappointed in the noise that particular car made. I’ll ask some guys who might know him to find out what other mods he has.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: jaceyboy on 12 December 2018, 17:24
A Clubsport S silencer has the benefits of being OEM and under the radar of insurance (not that I’d advocate not telling the insurance company but.. ) plus a main dealer would never notice the different part.


I went to an open day at a well known local VW specialist back in the summer and a guy turned up in an R with a res delete. I’m not sure what other mods he had, a good few I’d imagine, but God Almighty did it sound rough!
The proprietor of said establishment made a few comments about the noise and general consensus was less than positive going by the amount of Gareth Hunt coffee type gestures being subtly made. (Anyone under 40 will have absolutely no idea what I mean there!)

Hopefully all res deletes aren’t the same but if they are then your neighbours won't like you much. 
Definitely something you’d want to hear on someone else’s car before getting the angle grinder out.

Our resonator delete sounds superb, it’s my wife’s car so I can assure you it isn’t loud, it’s gives more burbles and believe me there is no drone at all, well worth while and best thing is it’s reversable

Maybe the guy had a decat as well.
I didn’t speak to him to ask.

It’s definitely a mod I’d have considered myself in the past so was disappointed in the noise that particular car made. I’ll ask some guys who might know him to find out what other mods he has.

He must of as ours isn’t loud, just more poppy
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 12 December 2018, 19:26
Hi MT3, welcome!

I thought I'd add my view to your conundrum...

I had a GTI MK7.5 (non-performance) and I was looking for a bit more from the exhaust. I did quite a bit of research and ordered the Clubsport S backbox as it sounded great on videos (never had the chance to hear one in the flesh). Clearly I didn't do quite enough research as there were some very slight changes to the rear diffuser on the 7.5 facelift meaning that it wouldn't fit!

Not to be defeated, I then looked for alternatives and found the remus backbox delete. Again, I thought it sounded great on videos... Motech have quite a few on YouTube. This option had various clamps which could be adjusted to fit the mk7 or the 7.5 so I went ahead and ordered one at Awesome GTI near Manchester.

In the meantime, I saw a good deal on a Clubsport so I traded in my GTI MK7.5. I fitted the Remus backbox to my Clubsport about 6 months ago - see pic.

(https://i.postimg.cc/rFZg1XTY/DSC-1531-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3dpghqdg)

For me, it all depends on the type of driving you do. My commute is mostly country roads so I enjoy the burbles and pops from my exhaust. Particularly the fireworks in DSG Sport or manual. Driving with constant revs over 3,000 on the motorway though is quite tiring as there is noticeable drone. I did a long journey a few weekends ago and was tempted to go back to my original exhaust!

If I had a MK7, I think I would go for the Clubsport S backbox as it gives slightly larger tailpipes than the MK7 (same size as Clubsport and 7.5 and slightly smaller than the remus), with a better note and (I assume) limited drone given it is OEM. It was about £300 from a main dealer excluding fitting as far as I remember.

Whilst I don't have any experience of it, there are a few guys on here with the VagSport/ Progressive Parts res delete and are very happy. They have also commented that there is no drone so it might be an option if you do lots of motorway driving. It's also much cheaper I think (<£200).

Finally, if you do actually have a MK7.5, I saw this advertised today which seems like a good price (Awesome GTI ebay shop). Clearly I can't comment on how that might sound though - I'm guessing loud!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Milltek-Cat-Back-Non-Res-System-VW-Golf-Mk7-5-GTi-incl-GTi-Performance-Pack-/264043426589?fbclid=IwAR3LePn85zhjGsPrWzvauovnlrLJLPylhRSqWRod8N5jWkRcS2XBC36jfDA

Have fun with the youtube searching and let us know which route you go down.

Andy

Hi Andy

Thanks for the welcome and your exhaust stories!

Certainly food for thought

I was leaning toward the remus set up (youtube influence motech). However, when I mod cars, its usually quite subtle and try to use OEM parts... so the clubSport S back box is an obvious choice for me. The progressive parts vagsport res delete is the outsider wild card.

More youtubing required I think.
Id love to try and hear all three

PS - In admirarion of your ClubSport, very nice indeed
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: jaceyboy on 13 December 2018, 15:01
A little clip of our GTi with resonator delete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-OH3u7rhBE
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 13 December 2018, 23:22
A little clip of our GTi with resonator delete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-OH3u7rhBE

Car looks well with the Pretoria wheels and black mirror caps. Slightly too loud for me though.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: hog_hedge on 14 December 2018, 08:17
Here's mine with a res delete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwlviwcLb_A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwlviwcLb_A)

For £140 it was well worth the cash.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: jaceyboy on 14 December 2018, 08:46
Here's mine with a res delete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwlviwcLb_A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwlviwcLb_A)

For £140 it was well worth the cash.

Brill sounds like ours :cool:
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: andy28 on 14 December 2018, 09:07
Is it true that there's absolutely no drone - even cruising on the motorway at or above 3,000rpm? I've seen videos online showing no drone but they're always bang on 70mph...
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: jaceyboy on 14 December 2018, 09:25
Is it true that there's absolutely no drone - even cruising on the motorway at or above 3,000rpm? I've seen videos online showing no drone but they're always bang on 70mph...

Can’t vouch for others but we have 0 drone, it would be take off if there was :laugh:
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 14 December 2018, 16:42
Thank you very much everyone who has contributed to this thread - much appreciated!

Looking like a close call between

Clubsport S and Res Delete.

Pressumably both are fine to pass MOT as its after the CAT - correct? (More referring to res delete)

Thanks again
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: jaceyboy on 14 December 2018, 17:09
Thank you very much everyone who has contributed to this thread - much appreciated!

Looking like a close call between

Clubsport S and Res Delete.

Pressumably both are fine to pass MOT as its after the CAT - correct? (More referring to res delete)

Thanks again

Yes cats arent touched
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: hog_hedge on 14 December 2018, 18:39
Is it true that there's absolutely no drone - even cruising on the motorway at or above 3,000rpm? I've seen videos online showing no drone but they're always bang on 70mph...

There is mild drone between 3500 and 4000 when you're hitting full boost but it would be very rare that I would stay in that rev range for a prolonged period of time. If I'm cruising then at most it would be at 3000rpm but in top gear I would be doing over 80 at that rpm.

For the sound increase at other times, especially the DSG farts, it's worth it. But I would say that if you have the money for a proper cat back like the Remus resonated system then go for that because it would sound much nicer but probably louder again.

I just went for the res delete because its the most bang for your buck. I was originally going to get a full system with remap but I've decided to save the money now and then go to town on my next car which will hopefully be a Mk8 R :cool:
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: hobbes22 on 26 December 2018, 20:37
I've been tempted for the res delete from Progressive Parts. But the exhaust noise on mine is definitely more than my previous 230 GTI despite the lack of upshift farts. Does a little pop flurry when fired up from cold  :cool:

Thanks for reply Jim.. interesting

Whats different about yours from your previous (sorry may have missed something obvious!)

And yes that instagram vid is pretty much spot on!

I had a std Mk7.5 GTI last year (with DSG upshift farts) and would say the Performance model I have now makes a louder noise but with no upshift noise but the odd burble.

I have to agree, after jumping straight from a Mk7 PP to a Mk7.5 GTI Performance, the exhaust is a lot louder. I love it, whereas my wife is still unsure. I'm not sure what's different, is it just the larger tailpipes that make it louder?
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Robo999 on 26 December 2018, 21:25
Is it true that there's absolutely no drone - even cruising on the motorway at or above 3,000rpm? I've seen videos online showing no drone but they're always bang on 70mph...

Theres no drone at 70moh. But hit anything above 3,000rpm your ears will actually bleed with drone. Im buying a bcs cat back as soon as poss. Mine is a clubsport tho  :wink:
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: andy28 on 28 December 2018, 14:31
Haha Robo999!
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 28 December 2018, 17:23
Haha Robo999!

Hi Andy

Question for you; when you bought your clubsport, you changed the exhaust so pressumably wasnt happy with the sound to some extent.

I understand there will be a difference between 'standard' clubsport and clubsport S.. but you suggested, as 1 possible option, clubsport S would be good but any reason you didnt go for it yourself? Fitment? Noise not what looking for?

Id be okay with going for a expensive system (if justifed in better results than cheaper options like the res delete) as long as it still passes MOT and I dont have to faf around taking bits on and off to pass.

Thanks again
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 28 December 2018, 17:26
Is it true that there's absolutely no drone - even cruising on the motorway at or above 3,000rpm? I've seen videos online showing no drone but they're always bang on 70mph...

Theres no drone at 70moh. But hit anything above 3,000rpm your ears will actually bleed with drone. Im buying a bcs cat back as soon as poss. Mine is a clubsport tho  :wink:

Hi Robo

Have you heard a bcs cat back in the flesh before? Do they do them for the standard mk7 gti (non facelift) do you know?

Thanks again
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: andy28 on 28 December 2018, 18:48

Hi Andy

Question for you; when you bought your clubsport, you changed the exhaust so pressumably wasnt happy with the sound to some extent.

I understand there will be a difference between 'standard' clubsport and clubsport S.. but you suggested, as 1 possible option, clubsport S would be good but any reason you didnt go for it yourself? Fitment? Noise not what looking for?

Id be okay with going for a expensive system (if justifed in better results than cheaper options like the res delete) as long as it still passes MOT and I dont have to faf around taking bits on and off to pass.

Thanks again

To be absolutely honest MT3, I didn't really give the stock Clubsport exhaust a chance. After finding that the Clubsport S exhaust wouldn't fit to my 7.5, I ordered the remus backbox delete and it was a special order at the time. Despite me changing my car, to avoid losing the money, I went ahead and fitted it almost immediately to the Clubsport.

I can't say what the difference is between the Clubsport and Clubsport S exhausts. They are different part numbers so there's clearly some difference but not sure whether anyone got to the bottom of it. The Clubsport S definitely sounds more aggressive (on YouTube at least) but how much is down to the tune and lack of sound deadening... As such, I'm not sure I would change a Clubsport one for a Clubsport S one.

As far as I know none of the items here would need to be changed back for MOT purposes, as Jaceyboy mentioned I think only decatting would cause you issues there.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 28 December 2018, 19:52
I’ve gone for the VagSport res delete, fitted today  :cool:

First impressions- deeper and more noise but not daft. Couldn’t hear any drone on way home with a mix of motorway and A roads. Few burbles when going into first at junctions and certainly sounds great under hard acceleration.

There’s a video on the comments section of their post on Facebook.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2203168926669896&id=1694076574245803&anchor_composer=false
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Robo999 on 28 December 2018, 22:11
Hi mt3, i have heard them on other cars. Mate had 1 on a edition 30 and it sounded brilliant.
And yes they do them for the standard gti as the standard mk7 gti and clubsport are all the same parts. I cant imagine they sound bad. Il be giving them a call in the new year to discuss what im after anyway as they do so many options  :smiley:

https://www.powervalve.co.uk/products/vw/golf/mk7/golf-mk7-2-0-tfsi-gti-2013.html
Thats the website
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 30 December 2018, 09:37
Hi mt3, i have heard them on other cars. Mate had 1 on a edition 30 and it sounded brilliant.
And yes they do them for the standard gti as the standard mk7 gti and clubsport are all the same parts. I cant imagine they sound bad. Il be giving them a call in the new year to discuss what im after anyway as they do so many options  :smiley:

https://www.powervalve.co.uk/products/vw/golf/mk7/golf-mk7-2-0-tfsi-gti-2013.html
Thats the website

Great! Thanks for this will check it out
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 30 December 2018, 09:39

Hi Andy

Question for you; when you bought your clubsport, you changed the exhaust so pressumably wasnt happy with the sound to some extent.

I understand there will be a difference between 'standard' clubsport and clubsport S.. but you suggested, as 1 possible option, clubsport S would be good but any reason you didnt go for it yourself? Fitment? Noise not what looking for?

Id be okay with going for a expensive system (if justifed in better results than cheaper options like the res delete) as long as it still passes MOT and I dont have to faf around taking bits on and off to pass.

Thanks again

To be absolutely honest MT3, I didn't really give the stock Clubsport exhaust a chance. After finding that the Clubsport S exhaust wouldn't fit to my 7.5, I ordered the remus backbox delete and it was a special order at the time. Despite me changing my car, to avoid losing the money, I went ahead and fitted it almost immediately to the Clubsport.

I can't say what the difference is between the Clubsport and Clubsport S exhausts. They are different part numbers so there's clearly some difference but not sure whether anyone got to the bottom of it. The Clubsport S definitely sounds more aggressive (on YouTube at least) but how much is down to the tune and lack of sound deadening... As such, I'm not sure I would change a Clubsport one for a Clubsport S one.

As far as I know none of the items here would need to be changed back for MOT purposes, as Jaceyboy mentioned I think only decatting would cause you issues there.

Ah ok makes sense! Thanks Andy
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: MT3 on 30 December 2018, 09:42
I’ve gone for the VagSport res delete, fitted today  :cool:

First impressions- deeper and more noise but not daft. Couldn’t hear any drone on way home with a mix of motorway and A roads. Few burbles when going into first at junctions and certainly sounds great under hard acceleration.

There’s a video on the comments section of their post on Facebook.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2203168926669896&id=1694076574245803&anchor_composer=false

Excellent Jim- car looks very nice too

I cant find the vid, maybe I need facebook to see comments

Glad you like it and no drone which is a big tick
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: king monkey on 31 December 2018, 11:30
I presume this is a mod which you should tell your insurance company about?
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: fredgroves on 31 December 2018, 11:54
I presume this is a mod which you should tell your insurance company about?

If you ask your insurer they will tell you that you should disclose any and everything and let them decide if its a premium changing mod....
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 January 2019, 16:20
Here’s a little video of my VAGSport res delete. Will try and get some launch and moving videos at some point as well.

https://youtu.be/-uTgDRktjqk
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 04 January 2019, 21:37
I presume this is a mod which you should tell your insurance company about?

The less they know the better, any excuse to charge you more and they will. Someone on here put winter tyres on his car and let his insurance company know - they charged him £30.
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Post by: Guzzle on 04 January 2019, 21:42
If in doubt let them know. Better to fork out an extra £30 than belatedly finding out through some unfortunate circumstance that you have no insurance.

If you're not happy with what you're being charged then shop around for a better deal next time.
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Post by: SRGTD on 04 January 2019, 22:08
If in doubt let them know. Better to fork out an extra £30 than belatedly finding out through some unfortunate circumstance that you have no insurance.

If you're not happy with what you're being charged then shop around for a better deal next time.

Agree with this. You’ll almost certainly find in the terms and conditions of all car insurance policies that insurers require to be informed of modifications. IMO it’s not worth taking the risk of not informing them and then finding your insurance has been voided in a situation where you’re relying on it paying out.
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Post by: andy28 on 19 January 2019, 14:06
As a quick update, I've gone back to the OEM exhaust!

As I mentioned on here, I loved the sound apart from the drone on motorways which became draining.

Bizarrely the car now feels faster as it is much quieter at accelerating - an unexpected benefit I guess. I've even had to up the Soundaktor to 30% to compensate haha.

I'm glad I've changed back but I'm sure at some point I will be back on the hunt for more noise so I've kept the remus just in case. I will see how I get on with stock for a while (although that res delete does sound great Jim!)
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Post by: Ryan90GTI on 19 January 2019, 14:57
Push the boat out. Get Akrapovic 😎
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Post by: deltarikk on 19 January 2019, 15:07
I've had the res delete pipe on my CS since July last year and have had the res box refitted today  :whistle:

For me in the end I found it more annoying, at times sounding like exhaust had blown.....don't get me wrong, if its farts and crackles you're after you will definitely get them when giving it the beans but majority of driving and my DSG box in the end I found it too 'boomy' when I didn't want it to be....if that makes sense. Might be different on manual box and don't know if the CS tune has an impact/different effect than standard Gti's?

I loved it when I had it done and its not much outlay to try if you're unsure, also PP's at Manchester were spot on, really friendly helpful guys......so for the time being its back to OEM for me  :undecided: 
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 19 January 2019, 18:56
I’m finding mine spot on. Only noisy under harder acceleration. Only thing I noticed was sat at around 80-85 there is some drone. But as motorway trips are few and far between then it’s no problem. The rest of the time , it’s either quiet if pottering or sounds like a proper hot hatch should!
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Post by: mariodiniz21 on 14 November 2019, 15:43
Hi, did anyone try a Scorpion catback on the Clubsport? I saw a video yesterday and it was the best sounding Clubsport that I've heard.
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Post by: candy turbo on 17 November 2019, 14:08
i had a res delete fitted on my clubsport S , it sounded sh!t , just like exhaust had blown , i had a smaller res fitted and it sounded pretty good but im going for the mountuneM52 system do my custom center section will be for sale soon
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Post by: Upperoilcan on 21 November 2019, 21:30
I have had the Res delete on my GTI and love how it sounds,The car should have come from the factory like it.
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Post by: hobbes22 on 24 November 2019, 17:21
I’m finding mine spot on. Only noisy under harder acceleration. Only thing I noticed was sat at around 80-85 there is some drone. But as motorway trips are few and far between then it’s no problem. The rest of the time , it’s either quiet if pottering or sounds like a proper hot hatch should!

Hiya Jim, How are you finding the Res Delete day to day? I have just been to my local Powerflow dealer who will make and fit a res delete for £150 which i thought was a good price. How did your insurance company react? Thanks.
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Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 25 November 2019, 08:56
I’m finding mine spot on. Only noisy under harder acceleration. Only thing I noticed was sat at around 80-85 there is some drone. But as motorway trips are few and far between then it’s no problem. The rest of the time , it’s either quiet if pottering or sounds like a proper hot hatch should!

Hiya Jim, How are you finding the Res Delete day to day? I have just been to my local Powerflow dealer who will make and fit a res delete for £150 which i thought was a good price. How did your insurance company react? Thanks.

Absolutely love it for day to day. Currently, I use the car for a short commute to work and some work trips depending on my diary and then local at weekends. You can drive around with no noise or you can make plenty of noise, depending on your throttle input.  The difference is when you want noise, you can actually hear the exhaust from inside the car instead of the fake noise. I went with VAGSport as they seemed to have a good reputation. Progressive Parts had to make it fit mine as hadn't done one with the GPF before and it needed a different connection compared to the normal GTI one.
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Post by: hobbes22 on 25 November 2019, 12:30
I’m finding mine spot on. Only noisy under harder acceleration. Only thing I noticed was sat at around 80-85 there is some drone. But as motorway trips are few and far between then it’s no problem. The rest of the time , it’s either quiet if pottering or sounds like a proper hot hatch should!

Hiya Jim, How are you finding the Res Delete day to day? I have just been to my local Powerflow dealer who will make and fit a res delete for £150 which i thought was a good price. How did your insurance company react? Thanks.

Absolutely love it for day to day. Currently, I use the car for a short commute to work and some work trips depending on my diary and then local at weekends. You can drive around with no noise or you can make plenty of noise, depending on your throttle input.  The difference is when you want noise, you can actually hear the exhaust from inside the car instead of the fake noise. I went with VAGSport as they seemed to have a good reputation. Progressive Parts had to make it fit mine as hadn't done one with the GPF before and it needed a different connection compared to the normal GTI one.

Thanks Jim.
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Post by: TippEx on 11 April 2020, 18:12
i had a res delete fitted on my clubsport S , it sounded sh!t , just like exhaust had blown , i had a smaller res fitted and it sounded pretty good but im going for the mountuneM52 system do my custom center section will be for sale soon

Wondering you opinions on difference between the Mountune52 cat back and the Clubsport S system?  I have the Mountune52 catback on my PP, unfortunately I only had a week or two of driving it until lockdown rules came into place so I have had limited time with it.  I'm going for an OEM+ approach with my car so would be interested to know how the two compare from someone who has run both.
Title: Re: 3 Popular Exhaust Upgrades - Which is best
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 13 April 2020, 20:56
I've got the CSS exhaust on mine and it sounds awesome. not too loud at all. Perfect OEM+ mod.

https://youtu.be/TcJYE1HRsio
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Post by: TippEx on 15 April 2020, 13:36
Oooh, I do like that CSS back box.  At the moment the sensible part of me is thinking going back to stock and pocketing some money on it when the garages open up again.  The Mountune52 cat back came as a bundle deal with a remap so only cost me a few hundred more than I would be paying for the remap anyway so it was more of a bonus than something I was planning on doing.  The less sensible side of me is thinking that I could probably swap out for the CSS backbox for what I could sell the Mountune52 cat back for maybe with some change in my pocket  :whistle:

I do really quite like Mountune52 catback, it's resonated so normal driving around town it doesn't come across as too antisocial and it has a nice sound to it when I open it up which thankfully has gotten a bit quieter after it has has a chance for some carbon build up.  My main consideration here is that I have a long motorway commute and while not excessively loud, I prefer the sound of my stock exhaust for this at certain speeds.  If the CSS is good for long motorway journeys then again I could be tempted.  Especially if anyone here has one lying around that they are not using anymore going cheap.
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Post by: WattMk7.5 on 25 May 2020, 23:46
I currently have the Vagsport res delete and scorpion decat DP with stock muffler on my Mk7.5  Motorway driving fine little to no drone, but when you get on it it’s insane. Bit boy racer but it’s a good amount of noise for the country roads or if you wanna be noticed.
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Post by: TippEx on 27 May 2020, 18:38
Oooh, I do like that CSS back box.  At the moment the sensible part of me is thinking going back to stock and pocketing some money on it when the garages open up again.  The Mountune52 cat back came as a bundle deal with a remap so only cost me a few hundred more than I would be paying for the remap anyway so it was more of a bonus than something I was planning on doing.  The less sensible side of me is thinking that I could probably swap out for the CSS backbox for what I could sell the Mountune52 cat back for maybe with some change in my pocket  :whistle:

I do really quite like Mountune52 catback, it's resonated so normal driving around town it doesn't come across as too antisocial and it has a nice sound to it when I open it up which thankfully has gotten a bit quieter after it has has a chance for some carbon build up.  My main consideration here is that I have a long motorway commute and while not excessively loud, I prefer the sound of my stock exhaust for this at certain speeds.  If the CSS is good for long motorway journeys then again I could be tempted.  Especially if anyone here has one lying around that they are not using anymore going cheap.

So car is now booked into the garage for next week for new discs and pads all round as well as some new plugs to compliment the recent remap and I've decided to have the Mountune52 catback removed and go back to stock.  Part of the appeal of the GTI for me is that it is understated and under the radar so for me despite the fact that it makes me smile at times, it's probably a bit much for me for a car that I cover a fair few miles in (45000 in just over 3 years).  Also, as previously mentioned not a fan of the DSG 'fart' sound and it is really accentuated with this one.  Going to leave things stock for now, but will maybe look at getting the stock unit retipped at a local custom exhaust place at some point in the future as the one thing that I like over this compared to stock is the quality compared to the stock unit tips which got pitted and were horrible to clean.  I'll leave it a while before I make any decisions on that though.

Thought that I would give the folks on here dibs as you all seem to be a nice friendly bunch (really you are, I'm not just flattering here   :grin:).  https://www.mountune52.com/collections/mk7-golf-gti/products/m52-cat-back-exhaust-system (https://www.mountune52.com/collections/mk7-golf-gti/products/m52-cat-back-exhaust-system).  Retails at £999 new.  I will be looking at £650 for the catback exhaust and the billet brace that it came with.  The exhaust has done around 500 miles since installation at Mountune.  I only have the mk7 fittings, but if anyone with a 7.5 is interested I can contact Mountune to see if they can supply the fittings.  Mods -- feel free to move to for sale if not appropriate here.

If no one here is interested, it will probably end up on ebay the next time that they do one of their £1 listing promotions.  If anyone is interested I can post up a few photos of the exhaust on the car.