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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Exonian on 29 October 2017, 11:45
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It took a while to happen but finally they’re on
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HUGE thanks to Booth11 for her old boots which kind of got the ball rolling ages ago, before I even had the car I think(?) when I was mooting different wheels during my five minutes with the GTD.
I’d made a comment in a thread somewhere and Ms B said I could have her old tyres when the Michelin upgrade happened. I’d been thinking of putting some upgraded lightweight 18’s on such as Borbet FF1’s but as soon as the offer of the 19” Contis was made my mind was therefore made up.
It took me a while to source a decent set of Pretorias during which time REVO 19’s were considered but as the Ed40 CS is a limited run car for anoraks like me I’d ideally wanted to keep it pretty standard.
A couple of the Prets I eventually bought had a few marks so I got those two repainted the other week and Ms B rolled her old Contis in my direction once the hallowed Michelins were fitted to the Black Beauty R (as Asker so fondly and aptly called it) a month or two ago.
Work commitments etc caused a few delays for me but I eventually managed to get down to my regular tyre fitter on Saturday morning after an 11 hour night shift (as you do) and finally the jigsaw slotted together.
The Belvederes are now finally in the skip :laugh: and the GTI now looks like it’s ready for Benny to hot lap the ‘Ring in it.
The only ring I’ll be lapping is the ring road on the way to work but at least I’ll look the part... :grin:
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They really look great although I would say the Belvederes looked great too! So are you going to lease out the Belvederes :wink:
How about a before and after picture post, be interesting to see the difference in looks on the same car....
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They are a great looking wheel.
Now I'm off to Down and to the left quite a bit to do some skip scavenging.
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They really look great although I would say the Belvederes looked great too! So are you going to lease out the Belvederes :wink:
How about a before and after picture post, be interesting to see the difference in looks on the same car....
Before
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They are a great looking wheel.
Now I'm off to Down and to the left quite a bit to do some skip scavenging.
:grin:
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They both really suit the car and in isolation look spot-on but the Pretorias just look so right especially when they are in the right colour :smiley:
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Massive improvement, I don't like the Belvedere's at all. :cool:
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Massive improvement, I don't like the Belvedere's at all. :cool:
My thoughts too and thanks Trev.
The pics on here of non-CS GTI's fitted with Belvederes look really good, I think it's just the height of the rear spoiler that makes them look too small on the ED40 CS.
In isolation the wheels look really good.
I'd like to say the Belvederes are indeed lovely and light but my back tells me otherwise having wrestled with them yesterday :grin:
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I'll love a set of Belvedere's, they really suit the GTI and tyres are cheaper than Prets too.
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I'll love a set of Belvedere's, they really suit the GTI and tyres are cheaper than Prets too.
One of the reasons I was originally looking at other lightweight 18's was the tyre cost factored in at about 60% of the cost of 19" rubber ware.
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They’re a lovely wheel and amazingly light for a 19
Beware of stone chips on the rear wheels though they seem prone to it unfortunately.
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They’re a lovely wheel and amazingly light for a 19
Beware of stone chips on the rear wheels though they seem prone to it unfortunately.
Thanks Ken.
One of the wheels that I had painted was a bit stone chipped hence the refurb.
I was tempted briefly to get them all done in black to keep the black and white theme running but decided they'd be a pain to look after.
The blue chrome standard colour looks great in the flesh.
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Yeah I much prefer the silver. This is my first car in ages without black wheels and it makes a nice change!
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One word Mr Ex...
Perfect.
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Tempted to follow suit!
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Looks fantastic!!
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One word Mr Ex...
Perfect.
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Thank you :smiley:
Tempted to follow suit!
This could turn into a “Belvederes for sale” thread then :grin:
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That’s the dilemma - I really like the belvederes.
However, as the weather cools down, such the lack of grip offered by the bridgestones starts to really reveal itself, and if new tyres are in the agenda.......
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Here we go again with lack of grip complaints and Bridgestones 😴😴
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They look marvellous on the Clubsport. Good move Sir :grin:
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Here we go again with lack of grip complaints and Bridgestones 😴😴
I actually found them pretty good, quite noisy but gripped well enough on my R, GTD and Ed40.
I’m not saying Michelins etc aren’t massively better but the Bridgestones seem perfectly ok to me.
They look marvellous on the Clubsport. Good move Sir :grin:
Thank you Ian, praise indeed from a dyed in the wool wheel critique :grin:
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Not sure if this link will work but it’s an eye opener to me!
fb://group/?id=1541477379484574&view=permalink&object_id=1790050647960578
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Not sure if this link will work but it’s an eye opener to me!
fb://group/?id=1541477379484574&view=permalink&object_id=1790050647960578
Didn't work for me but intrigued, give me a clue :wink:
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I'm useless with computers!!
It's from the R owners group on Facebook and it's a video of a Pretoria on a wheel balancing machine after it hit a smallish pothole.
The wheel is totally out of whack and beyond saving.
But the thing that surprised me is that according to this particular owners group, it is a common occurrence with Prets and the wheel isn't rated as being any good!
News to me :shocked
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I'm useless with computers!!
It's from the R owners group on Facebook and it's a video of a Pretoria on a wheel balancing machine after it hit a smallish pothole.
The wheel is totally out of whack and beyond saving.
But the thing that surprised me is that according to this particular owners group, it is a common occurrence with Prets and the wheel isn't rated as being any good!
News to me :shocked:
Old news to us R owners and does it make us love our Prets any less. Nope. :grin:
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I'm useless with computers!!
It's from the R owners group on Facebook and it's a video of a Pretoria on a wheel balancing machine after it hit a smallish pothole.
The wheel is totally out of whack and beyond saving.
But the thing that surprised me is that according to this particular owners group, it is a common occurrence with Prets and the wheel isn't rated as being any good!
News to me :shocked:
Old news to us R owners and does it make us love our Prets any less. Nope. :grin:
So they are prone to buckling?
I thought that was just Santiagos :wink:
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I'm useless with computers!!
It's from the R owners group on Facebook and it's a video of a Pretoria on a wheel balancing machine after it hit a smallish pothole.
The wheel is totally out of whack and beyond saving.
But the thing that surprised me is that according to this particular owners group, it is a common occurrence with Prets and the wheel isn't rated as being any good!
News to me :shocked:
Old news to us R owners and does it make us love our Prets any less. Nope. :grin:
So they are prone to buckling?
I thought that was just Santiagos :wink:
Well I've already hit some craters round here and no problems.
Is this from the same source as creaky pan roofs, not in my super stiff R.
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I'm useless with computers!!
It's from the R owners group on Facebook and it's a video of a Pretoria on a wheel balancing machine after it hit a smallish pothole.
The wheel is totally out of whack and beyond saving.
But the thing that surprised me is that according to this particular owners group, it is a common occurrence with Prets and the wheel isn't rated as being any good!
News to me :shocked:
Old news to us R owners and does it make us love our Prets any less. Nope. :grin:
So they are prone to buckling?
I thought that was just Santiagos :wink:
Rumour has it. But similar to what CHB says above, I drive on woeful roads, day in, day out, and though I always avoid known potholes, there’s been a fair few I’ve not escaped. My wheels had new tyres fitted at Lepsons recently (and 2 were refurbed)and no buckling or flat spots. Might be luck of the draw, who knows.
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I'm useless with computers!!
It's from the R owners group on Facebook and it's a video of a Pretoria on a wheel balancing machine after it hit a smallish pothole.
The wheel is totally out of whack and beyond saving.
But the thing that surprised me is that according to this particular owners group, it is a common occurrence with Prets and the wheel isn't rated as being any good!
News to me :shocked
Three of the set of four Pretorias I bought had low spots. Not serious ones but enough to be visible on the balancing machine. The refurbishers that repainted a pair of them said it was all too common in large diameter wheels from all manufacturers. They said buckles and bends can be reduced by keeping tyres inflated to higher pressures but with the amount and severity of potholes plus traffic calming it was just a side effect of modern driving.
They said there weren’t many wheels that passed through their doors without some form of out of roundness even on pretty new wheels.
When you look at Pretorias with their narrow spokes and large areas of rim with no spoke to support it then it’s hardly surprising I guess. Forged or otherwise.
Tendency to buckle or prone to whiteworm wheels? Take your pick! Or both?! :grin:
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I was just surprised to hear anything bad about the Pretoria’s. I’m a fan and it’s the first time I’d heard anything negative said about them.
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I do like Pretorias a lot, but I also hit a pothole and buckled a wheel beyond Lepson's repair when I had my R. First wheel I've ever buckled in decades of driving, they are not very robust, unfortunately.
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Large alloys being prone to buckling is nothing new...
I remember the M-Sport wheels in the BMW 3 series from about 10 years ago (the E92?) were really prone to actually splitting in two!
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So they are prone to buckling?
I thought that was just Santiagos :wink:
:cry: Two of mine are a bit wonky but they have taken quite a battering with all the potholes round here. The fact that they haven't needed re-balancing and that I couldn't see the damage when the tyre fitter pointed it out must mean it's minimal though. I'd say the wheelbearings are the weaker link having had one let go already :rolleyes:
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Be careful folks if you you've hit a pothole hard. When mine buckled I hadn't realised there was any damage - on inspection, non was visible on the front of the wheel and there was only a very slight vibration at higher speeds. After about 3 months I was passing a tyre place so I thought I'd just drop in and get it re-balanced. They put the wheel on the machine, then the tech shot through to get me. The wheel had a back buckle on the inside of the rim and he couldn't believe that I had hardly been able to feel it. I send it straight down to Jepsons and it couldn't be repaired as the centre of the wheel had been knocked out of centre. Again, they couldn't believe I'd been able to drive around with hardly any apparent problem.
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Be careful folks if you you've hit a pothole hard. When mine buckled I hadn't realised there was any damage - on inspection, non was visible on the front of the wheel and there was only a very slight vibration at higher speeds. After about 3 months I was passing a tyre place so I thought I'd just drop in and get it re-balanced. They put the wheel on the machine, then the tech shot through to get me. The wheel had a back buckle on the inside of the rim and he couldn't believe that I had hardly been able to feel it. I send it straight down to Jepsons and it couldn't be repaired as the centre of the wheel had been knocked out of centre. Again, they couldn't believe I'd been able to drive around with hardly any apparent problem.
I had the same with one of my 19” Glendale’s on my mk6 GTI. Took it in for alignment check as felt a slight pulling, and one of the wheels was badly buckled on the inner rim, beyond repair, so it was a new wheel and a new tyre, as the inside of the tyre was totally shredded and they said it was something of a miracle the tyre hadn’t blown. But apart from the slight pull, no other discernable sign anything was amiss!
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Looks fab on the Prets Andy, great upgrade.
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looks great :cool:
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They really look great although I would say the Belvederes looked great too! So are you going to lease out the Belvederes :wink:
How about a before and after picture post, be interesting to see the difference in looks on the same car....
Before
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They are a great looking wheel.
Now I'm off to Down and to the left quite a bit to do some skip scavenging.
:grin:
I am loving the black lines and fog surrounds !
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They really suit it Andy.
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They really look great although I would say the Belvederes looked great too! So are you going to lease out the Belvederes :wink:
How about a before and after picture post, be interesting to see the difference in looks on the same car....
Before
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They are a great looking wheel.
Now I'm off to Down and to the left quite a bit to do some skip scavenging.
:grin:
I am loving the black lines and fog surrounds !
There's no fogs on a clubsport Jeni.
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The prets are a massive improvement, looks great.
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They really look great although I would say the Belvederes looked great too! So are you going to lease out the Belvederes :wink:
How about a before and after picture post, be interesting to see the difference in looks on the same car....
Before
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They are a great looking wheel.
Now I'm off to Down and to the left quite a bit to do some skip scavenging.
:grin:
I am loving the black lines and fog surrounds !
There's no fogs on a clubsport Jeni.
I know i mean where the fogs are on mine the grill is nice black :grin:
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I still prefer the Belvederes.
I think it's because the black area of the wheels matches the rest of the car better.
I'm probably in the minority though :grin:
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The Belvederes are now finally in the skip :laugh:
I don't suppose you're selling the old wheels? I have a friend on the hunt for some Belvederes... I tried to PM you but your inbox is full, maybe it's other forum members digging for the same info? :smiley:
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Thanks Rob, Joe and Stevie :smiley: glad to hear you all approve :grin:
And thanks kalimon too for the lone voice of dissent! :laugh:
The Belvederes are now finally in the skip :laugh:
I don't suppose you're selling the old wheels? I have a friend on the hunt for some Belvederes... I tried to PM you but your inbox is full, maybe it's other forum members digging for the same info? :smiley:
Funny you should say that!
I'm not sure what I want to do with them yet.
Part of me thinks they'd be useful for back-up wheels and to put back on when the time comes to move the car on again.
And part of me is fed up with having them give me about 3 inches either side of the car to reverse into the garage.
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Thanks Rob, Joe and Stevie :smiley: glad to hear you all approve :grin:
And thanks kalimon too for the lone voice of dissent! :laugh:
You know I want them wheels :drool:
The Belvederes are now finally in the skip :laugh:
I don't suppose you're selling the old wheels? I have a friend on the hunt for some Belvederes... I tried to PM you but your inbox is full, maybe it's other forum members digging for the same info? :smiley:
Funny you should say that!
I'm not sure what I want to do with them yet.
Part of me thinks they'd be useful for back-up wheels and to put back on when the time comes to move the car on again.
And part of me is fed up with having them give me about 3 inches either side of the car to reverse into the garage.
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Funny you should say that!
I'm not sure what I want to do with them yet.
Part of me thinks they'd be useful for back-up wheels and to put back on when the time comes to move the car on again.
And part of me is fed up with having them give me about 3 inches either side of the car to reverse into the garage.
Well if you do decide to sell, I've got a buyer waiting... PM me :smiley:
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I like the Pretoria's and fitted a set to my wife's R that she had a few years ago. My CS has the standard 18" Belverderes and I'll probably keep them on. I like the fact they are quite rare, I do like the Brescia's though.
OP, have you noticed a big difference in ride comfort with the 19's on?
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I like the Pretoria's and fitted a set to my wife's R that she had a few years ago. My CS has the standard 18" Belverderes and I'll probably keep them on. I like the fact they are quite rare, I do like the Brescia's though.
OP, have you noticed a big difference in ride comfort with the 19's on?
Yes, the car has become quite harsh.
It wasn’t great before on the 18’s which I put down to the Bridgestones but now it’s really quite harsh over sharp irregularities. So I’m now putting it down to the springs.
Keep the Belvederes on.
My R was just as smooth on 19’s as it was on 18’s. The rear suspension in R’s is very forgiving.
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I'm finding the ride in my Clubsport quite harsh on the Pretoria's too, even in Comfort - certainly more harsh than I was expecting. I'd put it (partly) down to stiff sidewalls in the Cup 2 tyres, but as you say it seems like it may be the set-up of the springs or similar.
I couldn't wait to get rid of my previous, boring S4, but now I miss its ride comfort!
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I like the Pretoria's and fitted a set to my wife's R that she had a few years ago. My CS has the standard 18" Belverderes and I'll probably keep them on. I like the fact they are quite rare, I do like the Brescia's though.
OP, have you noticed a big difference in ride comfort with the 19's on?
Yes, the car has become quite harsh.
It wasn’t great before on the 18’s which I put down to the Bridgestones but now it’s really quite harsh over sharp irregularities. So I’m now putting it down to the springs.
Keep the Belvederes on.
My R was just as smooth on 19’s as it was on 18’s. The rear suspension in R’s is very forgiving.
Thanks for that. I'm happy with the ride of the CS and don't want to make it worse. I changed the wheels on the Golf R mainly for looks as I wasn't keen on the Cadiz alloys, but as I like the Belverderes I'll probably keep them, might spend the cash on an exhaust :)
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The Belvederes would look good with spacers and slight lowering.
If chosen wisely the lowering springs might even improve the ride.
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The Belvederes would look good with spacers and slight lowering.
If chosen wisely the lowering springs might even improve the ride.
Well I’ve already got the spacers :wink:
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The Belvederes would look good with spacers and slight lowering.
If chosen wisely the lowering springs might even improve the ride.
Well I’ve already got the spacers :wink:
Me too! :grin:
I might get round to fitting them one year.
My current insurer doesn't like spacers. :angry:
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If anyone is looking for a mint set of Belvederes, I've just posted a For Sale thread for mine.
Cheers!
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=282572.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=282572.0)
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They look perfect! Can't imagine them hanging around for long...
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If anyone is looking for a mint set of Belvederes, I've just posted a For Sale thread for mine.
Cheers!
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=282572.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=282572.0)
Why the sudden exodus of parts Tony? :shocked:
They look perfect! Can't imagine them hanging around for long...
They do look rather nice!
:cool:
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Our family wagon needed replacing, so forced sale to fund this.
I have also changed jobs, meaning a commute most days by public transport, so could not really justify keeping the GTI in the garage - despite man maths!
Will have a small budget left to find a cheap runaround to leave at the station etc.
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Our family wagon needed replacing, so forced sale to fund this.
I have also changed jobs, meaning a commute most days by public transport, so could not really justify keeping the GTI in the garage - despite man maths!
Will have a small budget left to find a cheap runaround to leave at the station etc.
I did something along the same lines last year with my R.
It wasn't very long before the man maths took over again!
Such a shame, yours was one of the very best looking mk7's I've ever seen.
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I’m juggling things around in my head trying to figure out a way of buying these without just being stupid and impulsive: )
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I’m juggling things around in my head trying to figure out a way of buying these without just being stupid and impulsive: )
Go the whole way and have the Clubsport diffuser and the exhaust as well for a discount! Man maths at its best?
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Still have my gorgeous Belvedere wheels for sale....... :wink: