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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Dr Mike Oxgreen on 04 December 2017, 16:21
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Let's be honest, the Volkswagen Golf has evolved into a fine example of modern hatchbackery over the last 40 years. The Mark 7, by implication, should stand proudly at the top of the evolutionary scale as an example of the art and science of the modern "all things to all men" (and women, obviously) ideal of the everyday car.
Yet, and we're into First World Problem territory here, no creation of man is ever perfect. Compromises must be made in materials, design and execution/manufacture which result in irritations for the end user. The Golf is a fine car, devoid of some of the compromises which bespoil lesser offerings from other manufacturers, yet my experience of Mark 6 and Mark 7 examples means that I can point to some examples of shortcomings which, while they don't exactly spoil the ownership experience still irritate me.
The first is the car's propensity to become filthy at the back after being driven in anything less than perfectly dry conditions. This is the result of the shape of the rear of the car creating a huge low-pressure area which sucks spray and road dirt passing under the car on to the rear hatch and window, something which is common to all of the Golfs that I have ever owned. VW will eventually work out that such a massive area of low aerodynamic pressure causes a huge amount of drag, which also results in fuel wastage.
The second is the door mirror housings which appear to have been designed to hold water, then release it slowly so that it dribbles down the doors. Just make some drain holes in the bottom of the mirror housings for heaven's sake!
That is all. For now.
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Not just the golf, but touchscreen interfaces in general in cars. The number of times I've not pressed the right bit is getting daft now. I end up with loads of finger marks on the screen surround as I steady my hand against it to ensure I press the right bit.
That said, being lowered probably doesn't help!
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The rear end sucking up dirt is an annoyance, particularly when it gets rapidly deposited to a visible layer of sand/mud on the boot lip.
This actually has improved Mk7-->7.5. The rear valence is cut away/angled and that definitely shows an improvement.
That being said, after a weekend on the motorway in foul weather, mine has a very dirty rear!
I did ponder what you said about aero efficiency verses the design and whilst it looks like a monster vacuum sucking fuel burner, actually:
https://drivemag.com/news/the-most-aerodynamic-cars-you-can-buy-right-now
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The dirty rear end isn’t just a Golf problem. I’ve had many hatchback cars over the years from a variety of manufacturers that have had an almost vertical rear hatch and all have suffered from this issue. I suppose that ‘two box’ shape of the majority of modern hatchback vehicles maximises carrying capacity when the rear seats are folded within a relatively small overall vehicle footprint. The best hatchbacks I had for keeping the rear end clean-ish were a mk3 Ford Escort and a mk2 Vauxhall’s Cavalier; neither had the almost vertical rear hatch. Both had rear wipers but I never needed to use them to clean the rear screen of dirt.
Other VW’s also suffer from the dripping mirror housings. I’ve also wondered why VW couldn’t design a simple drain hole into the bottom of the mirror housing. I have a Metro Vac Sidekick Blaster warm air dryer for drying most of the water off my car. With the long nozzle attachment fitted, I can blow the water out of the housing, so no more annoying drips! :smiley: It’s also great for all those other annoying water traps like the honeycomb grille, recessed bolt hole covers in the wheels, window rubbers, number plate surrounds, parking sensors in the bumpers
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Not just the golf, but touchscreen interfaces in general in cars. The number of times I've not pressed the right bit is getting daft now. I end up with loads of finger marks on the screen surround as I steady my hand against it to ensure I press the right bit.
Yes, this too. Which is daft when VAG offer twiddly controller i-drive style input on their Audi brand...
Also not previously helped by MIB1/2 touchscreens being first gen not very touchable touch screen... they fixed it with the new Mk7.5 NavPro unit.... then took away all of the twiddly knobs which were the closest thing they previously had to I-Drive and essential for rapidly scrolling through options...
Better still are the new Android Auto apps, which don't even let you flipping scroll through a big list of stuff because too much scrolling is too distracting and only let you do it when the vehicle is stationary!
*scream*
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I'd also like to offer my own annoyance... laser cut wheels!
It must be someone's idea of a money spinner either through refusing warranty claims or having shares in a wheel refurbishing chain.
I'm not even talking about self abuse (curbing) but just getting white worm because.
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I've got a couple more...
1) not being able to have mirror heating and dipping in reverse at the same time (WHY!)
2) Being able to choose if I want headlight washing when i use the windscreen washers and cause great big dirty marks all over the front end (and getting the the headlight washer jets prolapsed when its below zero...)
3) Boot light only on one side - the side that always has something piled up in front of it, blocking the boot light!
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I must say that I find my GTI extremely capable, comfortable and enjoyable to drive. It's irritations are mostly limited to technology, automatic lights that come on in broad daylight then don't come on when it's dark. Similarly the automatic wipers and autonomous braking which don't operate as intended. Non technological issues relate to the occasional rattle. Ditch the poorly resolved technology please VW, I don't need it nor want it. I have eyes and hands so can work the controls just fine as I have for over three decades. :smiley:
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The headlight switch annoys me. Why couldn't AUTO be in the vertical position like it was on the Mk6?
Also the volume button on the radio. If just the outer bezel turned, leaving the power symbol in the middle static, therefore the right way up, it would be much better. As it is, once 'parked' in the correct position, it becomes completely redundant.
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The biggest thing that annoys me is the fact the water doesn’t run away off the roof correctly... if it’s been raining and you open the door rain drops in, and when you pull away with your window down and you turn left all the water runs in and soaks the drivers door area. Happened on all 3 of our mk7’s. Why could they not make the water drain away better!!!
Touch screen in early mk7 was terrible, the later improved slightly. Not seen the mk7.5 one isn’t he flesh but I hope it’s another improvement.
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Rain sensitive wipers...about as sensitive as Roy Chubby Brown!
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Can't say anything annoys me enough about my car to be bothered mentioning it :smiley:
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Those door stays with only one stop position at wide open. They're not that effective, even wide open. Quite the most useless I can remember on any car I've ever owned. Surprised they've survived through the life of the 7/7.5 this far. Rubbish design!
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The radio volume knob
The rusty brakes / hubs
The nav - just fiddly to use and takes terrible routing decisions imo. I don’t rely on it.
Keyless cars - would be nice if the fob was different to non keyless.
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Most annoying?
I'm unable to scroll through phone contacts or my ipod on the MFD and have to do it on the ruddy touchscreen.
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This might be common to all manufacturers, but I think CarPlay is still a bit half baked.
Other than for music/podcasts, the Bluetooth setup is superior and far better integrated with the car’s systems imo.
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Dirt magnet boot doesn’t bother me. Every Golf has been the same, it’s like an old friend. :laugh:
Things that have always annoyed me and still do:
Mode button on left of gearstick (positioned for LHD)
The massive turning circle of the R which makes it look like you can’t park and requires 3 manoeuvres to get into my normal position on the drive, where 1 used to suffice.
Rusty brake hubs. Need I say more!
No mute button on steering wheel.
Things that used to annoy me but no longer do:
Crap initial throttle response - remedied with dtuk pedal box
Stop Start - disabled with OBDeleven.
Headlight washers - disabled with OBDeleven
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There's probably a solution to the massive low pressure area that the Golf tows around behind it, and I suspect that it's the kind of diffuser that Aston Martin puts on their WEC GT cars:
http://www.fanswec.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Aston-Martin-Racing-2017-Pre-Season-Test-01.jpg
A thing of beauty it is not.
The only hatchbacks which don't suffer too badly from rear crud syndrome are the Ford Focus and recent incarnations of the Honda Civic, both of which have a pronounced slope to the rear screen.
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No mute button on steering wheel.
I wish there was a fix for this! I changed the voice control button to be a mute button on my wife's Altea but can't seem to do the same on my golf :-(
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I wish there was a fix for this! I changed the voice control button to be a mute button on my wife's Altea but can't seem to do the same on my golf :-(
Me too. Even after over 2 years, I still miss it, having had it on the mk6.
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How odd!
On my Octy Mk3 mute works by pressing the volume scroll. The system must be capable, just that the physical button isn't there. You'd think they'd have it the same for all marque's.
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I'm sure that it was the Mute button that I used to use to cut traffic announcements on my Mark 6.
On the Mark 7 I have to press the "Cancel" button which appears on the infotainment screen to get rid of Radio Basingstoke's traffic updates when I'm nowhere near Basingstoke nor have any intention of going there. Nobody should.
Actually, this has reminded me of another gripe - the Traffic information screen gives priority to motorways and then A roads in numerical order, so inevitably tells me all about traffic holdups in and around London first. Is there a means to prioritise local traffic updates?
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Nope nothing you can do about the traffic data sorting. Unless you have car net the rds data is next to useless anyway. Not Vw's fault though.
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The electronic parking brake failing to release when you go to move off.Rarely happens but it can be damn annoying. :sad:
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I only ever use the parking brake when I park. And I release it myself.
Actually, one feature of my GTI that I really like is "Auto Hold". A genuine improvement over a manual handbrake, works automatically, unobtrusive and a real driver aid.
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Not just the golf, but touchscreen interfaces in general in cars. The number of times I've not pressed the right bit is getting daft now. I end up with loads of finger marks on the screen surround as I steady my hand against it to ensure I press the right bit.
That said, being lowered probably doesn't help!
Agreed, touch-screens are annoying and sometimes quite dangerous to use on the move.
The boot lights - only one and still using crappy yellow bulb! The RS3 I had for the weekend recently had 2 nice LEDs lighting up the boot, made a big difference.
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Not just the golf, but touchscreen interfaces in general in cars. The number of times I've not pressed the right bit is getting daft now. I end up with loads of finger marks on the screen surround as I steady my hand against it to ensure I press the right bit.
That said, being lowered probably doesn't help!
Agreed, touch-screens are annoying and sometimes quite dangerous to use on the move.
The boot lights - only one and still using crappy yellow bulb! The RS3 I had for the weekend recently had 2 nice LEDs lighting up the boot, made a big difference.
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Agreed, however I fitted a 10smd led light and it made a massive difference. Took it out my Previous car to put it in my new one 👍
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Had my GTI for nearly a year now. I've got a dashboard rattle when going over rough tarmac and the rubber door seals creak when I come off my drive. Also I can't turn the radio off without turning the MFD off I have to turn the volume down to zero.
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I only ever use the parking brake when I park. And I release it myself.
Actually, one feature of my GTI that I really like is "Auto Hold". A genuine improvement over a manual handbrake, works automatically, unobtrusive and a real driver aid.
My Octy vRS has the autohold feature but also has a manual handbrake. Autohold is a great feature, but i've just never really trusted electronic handbrakes. Not sure why, but it may have something to do with the Passat courtesy car I once had. It was impossible to disengage the handbrake without putting your seat belt on. Very annoying if you only wanted to move the car a few feet!
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Had my GTI for nearly a year now. I've got a dashboard rattle when going over rough tarmac and the rubber door seals creak when I come off my drive. Also I can't turn the radio off without turning the MFD off I have to turn the volume down to zero.
The soundaktor and it's cables seem to be a common source of dash rattles. Might be worth looking at. Door seals just need lubricating with the right oil, VW and others supply it, can't remember what it's called but I got some off ebay. Bit pricey but goes a long way.
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It was impossible to disengage the handbrake without putting your seat belt on. Very annoying if you only wanted to move the car a few feet!
Used to be like that on the Mk7 too... I think later they disabled that safety feature... its certainly not on my 7.5.
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Door seals just need lubricating with the right oil, VW and others supply it, can't remember what it's called but I got some off ebay. Bit pricey but goes a long way.
It’s Krytox, or a cheaper substitute is Gumme Pflege. Some don’t rate Gummi Pflege as highly as Krytox, but it is much cheaper.
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It was impossible to disengage the handbrake without putting your seat belt on. Very annoying if you only wanted to move the car a few feet!
Used to be like that on the Mk7 too... I think later they disabled that safety feature... its certainly not on my 7.5.
Yeah early MK7's were like that for sure. Not sure when they changed it but my '15 car disengages it without the seatbelt.
I know this thread is focusing on "Things you hate" but I must say the electronic handbrake / auto-hold / DSG / adaptive cruise systems are an absolute joy in the MK7 Golf. Sit into a new 3/4 series BMW and you'll see a manual handbrake... it seems archaic.
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I only ever use the parking brake when I park. And I release it myself.
Actually, one feature of my GTI that I really like is "Auto Hold". A genuine improvement over a manual handbrake, works automatically, unobtrusive and a real driver aid.
My Octy vRS has the autohold feature but also has a manual handbrake. Autohold is a great feature, but i've just never really trusted electronic handbrakes. Not sure why, but it may have something to do with the Passat courtesy car I once had. It was impossible to disengage the handbrake without putting your seat belt on. Very annoying if you only wanted to move the car a few feet!
You can release the parking brake manually by pressing the flapper button down in such situations. Having said that, if it was a B6 as opposed to a B7, that may not be the case.
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Door seals just need lubricating with the right oil, VW and others supply it, can't remember what it's called but I got some off ebay. Bit pricey but goes a long way.
It’s Krytox, or a cheaper substitute is Gumme Pflege. Some don’t rate Gummi Pflege as highly as Krytox, but it is much cheaper.
VW Squeaky seals easily resolved with Krytox oil (Special Lubricant) TPS or ebay. Approx £38 for 30ml
(https://s33.postimg.org/g8mbfxyrj/5_CE2_C70_A-_C457-4_D97-8202-4_B0_C3_AECB287.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/oe4de3n0b/)
Better longevity than Gummi Pflege ime.
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I hate that on the mk7 (as standard) they ditched the four way controller for adjustable lumbar support and stuck us with the rudimentary handle on the side of the seat. Cheapskates!
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One other thing I found was that the boot of the Mk7 is a little bit narrower than that of the mk6. I have a case that I used to slot in exactly taking up the entire width of the boot. I can't do that anymore and have to stand the case up at an angle.
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I hate that on the mk7 (as standard) they ditched the four way controller for adjustable lumbar support and stuck us with the rudimentary handle on the side of the seat. Cheapskates!
I'd add when fully adjusted to the max it exposes a hole in the cloth. Dealer said its normal when I questioned it so I checked other GTI's and he's right.
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I hate that on the mk7 (as standard) they ditched the four way controller for adjustable lumbar support and stuck us with the rudimentary handle on the side of the seat. Cheapskates!
I'd add when fully adjusted to the max it exposes a hole in the cloth. Dealer said its normal when I questioned it so I checked other GTI's and he's right.
Yes, that annoys me too. My old Audi was built so much better in so many ways and I loved it, but I wouldn't get rid of my GTI and go back now, it's just so much fun :smiley:
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I hate that on the mk7 (as standard) they ditched the four way controller for adjustable lumbar support and stuck us with the rudimentary handle on the side of the seat. Cheapskates!
I'd add when fully adjusted to the max it exposes a hole in the cloth. Dealer said its normal when I questioned it so I checked other GTI's and he's right.
That’s not the case with leather. Even with the handle at max there’s no hole, no visible break in the leather, so surprising that’s that’s the case with cloth.
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I hate that on the mk7 (as standard) they ditched the four way controller for adjustable lumbar support and stuck us with the rudimentary handle on the side of the seat. Cheapskates!
Having had the electric lumbar on my mk5GTI fail, I'm rapt the Mk7/7.5 has a manual lever! The electric system is hideously expensive to repair and prone to failure.
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Rusty brake hubs are cured with a bit of this... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rust-Oleum-400ml-Painters-Touch-Spray/dp/B001W03P9A You can mask up the disk and caliper and it goes on really easily.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rust-Oleum-400ml-Painters-Touch-Spray/dp/B001W03P9A
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I hate the fact the stereo systems stays on when I've parked and pressed the engine off button (keyless), only turning itself off when I open the door.
I agree with negative comments about the touchscreen - the dial/controller on my previous Audi S4 was much safer and simpler to use as you don't have to concentrate on what you're pressing...
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Rain sensitive wipers...about as sensitive as Roy Chubby Brown!
Really? Mine are best I have had yet, the last BWM ones went into SPAZ mode with a light drizzle. BUT they seem much better since having a replacement screen. So to fix them stick a brick through the windscreen. :grin:
Thing I hate about the Golf is if you have your window down and there is any water on the roof you get soaked the first time you hit the brakes.
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Thing I hate about the Golf is if you have your window down and there is any water on the roof you get soaked the first time you hit the brakes.
Yeah, put some wind deflectors on and the problem goes away.
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Christ you lot are picky. After 2 years in my GTI and almost 40k miles I still love it just as much as I did when I drove it out of the garage for the 1st time.
My plan is to keep it until I've done at least 100k, something that will be easy to do.
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Christ you lot are picky. After 2 years in my GTI and almost 40k miles I still love it just as much as I did when I drove it out of the garage for the 1st time.
My plan is to keep it until I've done at least 100k, something that will be easy to do.
Of course we are picky!.That's why we drive Golfs.We accept only perfection.I bet VW engineers are reading all of these comments and thinking 've hav vays of making Das Auto better!'. :grin:
'Evolution,not revolution'. :cool:
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Christ you lot are picky. After 2 years in my GTI and almost 40k miles I still love it just as much as I did when I drove it out of the garage for the 1st time.
My plan is to keep it until I've done at least 100k, something that will be easy to do.
Inclined to agree, have been wracking my brains and have decided the reflection of the bulkhead screen vent on the screen is it. Get your act together VW or I’m off to ?
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Thing I hate about the Golf is if you have your window down and there is any water on the roof you get soaked the first time you hit the brakes.
Yeah, put some wind deflectors on and the problem goes away.
Look naff IMO, plus shouldn't have to. Many things were thought out pretty well, but this is reasonably fundamental & not great, again IMO.
Apart from that, seats are a bit could have been, media unit Vs a phone that costs at most same or 50% (but that's not just VW), missing heated windscreen just now & gearbox/clutch that's a long way from the best.
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Thing I hate about the Golf is if you have your window down and there is any water on the roof you get soaked the first time you hit the brakes.
Yeah, put some wind deflectors on and the problem goes away.
Then you get 2 extra problems, first is the extra wind noise (been there done that) second is they make the car look terrible. :sad:
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Christ you lot are picky. After 2 years in my GTI and almost 40k miles I still love it just as much as I did when I drove it out of the garage for the 1st time.
My plan is to keep it until I've done at least 100k, something that will be easy to do.
Of course we are picky!.That's why we drive Golfs.We accept only perfection.I bet VW engineers are reading all of these comments and thinking 've hav vays of making Das Auto better!'. :grin:
'Evolution,not revolution'. :cool:
More likely the bean counters are thinking it's built too well and are thinking up ways of cutting costs....
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I hate that on the mk7 (as standard) they ditched the four way controller for adjustable lumbar support and stuck us with the rudimentary handle on the side of the seat. Cheapskates!
I'd add when fully adjusted to the max it exposes a hole in the cloth. Dealer said its normal when I questioned it so I checked other GTI's and he's right.
I've got no hole on mine... Cloth 7.5 gtd...
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Christ you lot are picky. After 2 years in my GTI and almost 40k miles I still love it just as much as I did when I drove it out of the garage for the 1st time.
My plan is to keep it until I've done at least 100k, something that will be easy to do.
Of course we are picky!.That's why we drive Golfs.We accept only perfection.I bet VW engineers are reading all of these comments and thinking 've hav vays of making Das Auto better!'. :grin:
'Evolution,not revolution'. :cool:
More likely the bean counters are thinking it's built too well and are thinking up ways of cutting costs....
When the accountants take control it only ever ends in tears. :cry:
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I find the controls for heating the wing mirrors are poorly thought out. You have to turn the dial to switch heating on then turn it back to L when finished otherwise the mirror doesn’t dip on reverse (I always forget to do this). A simple push button (or press of the little joystick) would have been better. Switch the heating on for five mins and then auto switch it off.
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I hate that on the mk7 (as standard) they ditched the four way controller for adjustable lumbar support and stuck us with the rudimentary handle on the side of the seat. Cheapskates!
I'd add when fully adjusted to the max it exposes a hole in the cloth. Dealer said its normal when I questioned it so I checked other GTI's and he's right.
There must have been enough complaints to fix it for the 7.5.
I've got no hole on mine... Cloth 7.5 gtd...
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I find the controls for heating the wing mirrors are poorly thought out. You have to turn the dial to switch heating on then turn it back to L when finished otherwise the mirror doesn’t dip on reverse (I always forget to do this). A simple push button (or press of the little joystick) would have been better. Switch the heating on for five mins and then auto switch it off.
I was playing with VCDS in my Amarok and found that I could set the heated mirrors to come on with the rear window heater. My cable is not compatible with MQB cars, so I couldn't try it on the Golf. It has however made the mirror heating switch redundant as it no longer works with this coding change done.
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I was playing with VCDS in my Amarok and found that I could set the heated mirrors to come on with the rear window heater. My cable is not compatible with MQB cars, so I couldn't try it on the Golf. It has however made the mirror heating switch redundant as it no longer works with this coding change done.
Never had any problems with my previous old VCDS cable on my MK7.....
I suspect yours is not a genuine Ross-tech cable & you are not running the latest release of VCDS...
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It is a genuine lead. HEX+CAN bought for my Mk6 Golf and B7 Passat about 5 years ago. I tried it on the Mk7 and the only thing I could access was dial staging. I've now got the latest software, but not tried it on that car in ages.
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I find the controls for heating the wing mirrors are poorly thought out. You have to turn the dial to switch heating on then turn it back to L when finished otherwise the mirror doesn’t dip on reverse (I always forget to do this). A simple push button (or press of the little joystick) would have been better. Switch the heating on for five mins and then auto switch it off.
I was playing with VCDS in my Amarok and found that I could set the heated mirrors to come on with the rear window heater. My cable is not compatible with MQB cars, so I couldn't try it on the Golf. It has however made the mirror heating switch redundant as it no longer works with this coding change done.
Interesting find, where did you find it in VCDS? I'll have a look tomorrow with my OBDeleven see if I can replicate it in the Golf.
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I think it was in Central Electrics. I'll confirm tomorrow as I have some more coding to do.
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I find the controls for heating the wing mirrors are poorly thought out. You have to turn the dial to switch heating on then turn it back to L when finished otherwise the mirror doesn’t dip on reverse (I always forget to do this). A simple push button (or press of the little joystick) would have been better. Switch the heating on for five mins and then auto switch it off.
I was playing with VCDS in my Amarok and found that I could set the heated mirrors to come on with the rear window heater. My cable is not compatible with MQB cars, so I couldn't try it on the Golf. It has however made the mirror heating switch redundant as it no longer works with this coding change done.
Interesting find, where did you find it in VCDS? I'll have a look tomorrow with my OBDeleven see if I can replicate it in the Golf.
In for info - obdeleven pro ordered!!
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I think it was in Central Electrics. I'll confirm tomorrow as I have some more coding to do.
Nice one, cheers.
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I find the controls for heating the wing mirrors are poorly thought out. You have to turn the dial to switch heating on then turn it back to L when finished otherwise the mirror doesn’t dip on reverse (I always forget to do this). A simple push button (or press of the little joystick) would have been better. Switch the heating on for five mins and then auto switch it off.
I was playing with VCDS in my Amarok and found that I could set the heated mirrors to come on with the rear window heater. My cable is not compatible with MQB cars, so I couldn't try it on the Golf. It has however made the mirror heating switch redundant as it no longer works with this coding change done.
Interesting find, where did you find it in VCDS? I'll have a look tomorrow with my OBDeleven see if I can replicate it in the Golf.
In for info - obdeleven pro ordered!!
Good man Graham
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I find the controls for heating the wing mirrors are poorly thought out. You have to turn the dial to switch heating on then turn it back to L when finished otherwise the mirror doesn’t dip on reverse (I always forget to do this). A simple push button (or press of the little joystick) would have been better. Switch the heating on for five mins and then auto switch it off.
I was playing with VCDS in my Amarok and found that I could set the heated mirrors to come on with the rear window heater. My cable is not compatible with MQB cars, so I couldn't try it on the Golf. It has however made the mirror heating switch redundant as it no longer works with this coding change done.
as central electronics long coding is all 0’s in the MQB that coding is not there
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It is a genuine lead. HEX+CAN bought for my Mk6 Golf and B7 Passat about 5 years ago. I tried it on the Mk7 and the only thing I could access was dial staging. I've now got the latest software, but not tried it on that car in ages.
My cable was older & worked fine.....but I always updated the software to the latest release before going near the car....& you defo need the newer software..the older stuff doesn't work well on the newer electrics & not just the MK7....
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the start /stopping of the engine when you stop at a junction or traffic light does my nut in.
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the start /stopping of the engine when you stop at a junction or traffic light does my nut in.
There should be a switch to over-ride the Stop/Start system. You just need to remember to press it every time you start the car.
Look for the switch with an "A" and a circular arrow.
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the start /stopping of the engine when you stop at a junction or traffic light does my nut in.
I take it you have DSG? It seems DSG owners complain for some reason. On a manual car, its not a problem.
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the start /stopping of the engine when you stop at a junction or traffic light does my nut in.
There should be a switch to over-ride the Stop/Start system. You just need to remember to press it every time you start the car.
Look for the switch with an "A" and a circular arrow.
Or get one of these https://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/diagnostic-tools/kufatec-diagnostic-coding-dongle/volkswagen-audi/coding-interface-disable-start-stop
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Shame there isn’t a option in vcds/obdeleven to make the stop start have a memory, or swap it to the other way round like in some Audi’s, Ive not turned it off personally due to the fact I sometimes use it
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Not being able to turn TCS off fully on the GTI :sad:
Trying to pull out of junction gentley this morning & even with it off kept cutting the power :(
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Not being able to turn TCS off fully on the GTI :sad:
Trying to pull out of junction gentley this morning & even with it off kept cutting the power :(
Why was it doing that? Why did you disable it? As far as I know, the Traction Control off should disable the front wheel slip detection system.
The only thing that is left is the stability control, which you normally only find an issue when driving hard on a track.
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Not being able to turn TCS off fully on the GTI :sad:
Trying to pull out of junction gentley this morning & even with it off kept cutting the power :(
If you haven't already, press and hold the button to completely disable it?
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the start /stopping of the engine when you stop at a junction or traffic light does my nut in.
There should be a switch to over-ride the Stop/Start system. You just need to remember to press it every time you start the car.
Look for the switch with an "A" and a circular arrow.
Or get one of these https://www.kufatec.co.uk/shop/en/diagnostic-tools/kufatec-diagnostic-coding-dongle/volkswagen-audi/coding-interface-disable-start-stop
What a ripoff that is. Couple of extra beer tokens and you could have an OBDeleven pro.
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Not being able to turn TCS off fully on the GTI :sad:
Trying to pull out of junction gentley this morning & even with it off kept cutting the power :(
If you haven't already, press and hold the button to completely disable it?
Yep done & held for about 5 seconds that goes in the sport mode :(
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Why do you want to turn it off in the first place and was it that gently you were pulling away from the junction? Plenty of black ice on our roads at the moment which no car can overcome.
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Why do you want to turn it off in the first place and was it that gently you were pulling away from the junction? Plenty of black ice on our roads at the moment which no car can overcome.
Because I like to control the throttle not the car & Yes it was gently applying going up a hill, had I been in control of the throttle could limit the wheel spin my self.
I come from a MK3 Focus St that you could fully switch it off.
Had I come accross black ice I could have easily corrected it with my right foot.
P.S Why would you not want full control over your car?
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Not being able to turn TCS off fully on the GTI :sad:
Should have bought an R :-P
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Not being able to turn TCS off fully on the GTI :sad:
Should have bought an R :-P
:grin: :grin:I know I do wish I had not been such a tight a**e now LOL
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Not being able to turn TCS off fully on the GTI :sad:
Trying to pull out of junction gentley this morning & even with it off kept cutting the power :(
If you haven't already, press and hold the button to completely disable it?
Yep done & held for about 5 seconds that goes in the sport mode :(
I guessed you might have already known that, Just on the slimmest of slim chances you didn't ;-)
Is there not a VCDS/OBDeleven change that could be made? I'm sure there is something out there.
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Not being able to turn TCS off fully on the GTI :sad:
Trying to pull out of junction gentley this morning & even with it off kept cutting the power :(
If you haven't already, press and hold the button to completely disable it?
Yep done & held for about 5 seconds that goes in the sport mode :(
I guessed you might have already known that, Just on the slimmest of slim chances you didn't ;-)
Is there not a VCDS/OBDeleven change that could be made? I'm sure there is something out there.
:grin: :wink: No probs
I have had a search but no one seems to have anything :undecided:
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But pressing the TC button turns off ARS, which is wheel spin control, which is what you need on mud/snow/ice...
By doing the long press it reduces the ESP/ESC (aka "sport mode") which is not about forward motion and reducing throttle control, but about braking individual wheels to maintain stability and keep the car in a controlled trajectory...
You only need it fully disabled for maximum track performance, not road driving...
And yes, you can disable it completely using VCDS (probably obd11 pro too...)...
Googling "golf gti disable traction control" produces a million hits that show you how to do it.
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But pressing the TC button turns off ARS, which is wheel spin control, which is what you need on mud/snow/ice...
By doing the long press it reduces the ESP/ESC (aka "sport mode") which is not about forward motion and reducing throttle control, but about braking individual wheels to maintain stability and keep the car in a controlled trajectory...
You only need it fully disabled for maximum track performance, not road driving...
And yes, you can disable it completely using VCDS (probably obd11 pro too...)...
Googling "golf gti disable traction control" produces a million hits that show you how to do it.
Sorry but I have to disagree, I feel more in control of the car in these conditions when the TCS/Stability is in sport mode.
Thanks for the working to find the correct links :wink:
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But pressing the TC button turns off ARS, which is wheel spin control, which is what you need on mud/snow/ice...
By doing the long press it reduces the ESP/ESC (aka "sport mode") which is not about forward motion and reducing throttle control, but about braking individual wheels to maintain stability and keep the car in a controlled trajectory...
You only need it fully disabled for maximum track performance, not road driving...
And yes, you can disable it completely using VCDS (probably obd11 pro too...)...
Googling "golf gti disable traction control" produces a million hits that show you how to do it.
Sorry but I have to disagree, I feel more in control of the car in these conditions when the TCS/Stability is in sport mode.
Thanks for the working to find the correct links :wink:
You're obviously a driving god who can retain full control over a car on black ice, but I wonder what would happen if your other-worldly skills deserted you and you had to make an insurance claim. Or, worse still, stand in the dock accused of causing death by dangerous driving, and it was discovered that you had disabled some of the car's primary safety systems?
Insurance assessors can interrogate EMS systems, as can the Police.
Just asking...
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But pressing the TC button turns off ARS, which is wheel spin control, which is what you need on mud/snow/ice...
By doing the long press it reduces the ESP/ESC (aka "sport mode") which is not about forward motion and reducing throttle control, but about braking individual wheels to maintain stability and keep the car in a controlled trajectory...
You only need it fully disabled for maximum track performance, not road driving...
And yes, you can disable it completely using VCDS (probably obd11 pro too...)...
Googling "golf gti disable traction control" produces a million hits that show you how to do it.
Sorry but I have to disagree, I feel more in control of the car in these conditions when the TCS/Stability is in sport mode.
Thanks for the working to find the correct links :wink:
You're obviously a driving god who can retain full control over a car on black ice, but I wonder what would happen if your other-worldly skills deserted you and you had to make an insurance claim. Or, worse still, stand in the dock accused of causing death by dangerous driving, and it was discovered that you had disabled some of the car's primary safety systems?
Insurance assessors can interrogate EMS systems, as can the Police.
Just asking...
I think the Dr will love it when selfdriving cars become a thing.
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Not a driving god, but have done many skid pan, advance driving coures etc...
Im not looking to set world records but my original gripe was pulling away and rhe tcs kicking in when i could feather the throttle my self to regulate wheel spin.
I dont intend on driving flat out out snow/wet etc.
Cars are to safe nowadays, i think knowing the car has all the gadet and gizmos to get you out of trouble makes people drive worse as they know the car will help them.
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The problem lies in the fact that too many "drivers" feel that either the car and its safety-related
marketing systems will render them immune to harm, or they have the throttle control and reflexes of a leading Formula 1 driver.
Right up until the moment of impact.
Signed a former Caterham 7 owner and Formula Vee tester/driver/engineer. Who believes that self-driving cars, along with public transport, are a great idea for the proletariat.
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Kelvyn, unless it was cutting the throttle because of genuine road surface traction problems (in which case, disabling ARS is the way to do it)....more likely you've just run into the infamous Golf wheel hopping (which will illuminate the TC light, but has nothing to do with TC).
No electronic solution to that one, just don't try and put 250bhp through the front wheels in one go - easy done.
As for driverless cars, bring it on for me.
Most people have a car as transport and a high degree don't have the skills to use it safely. Driverless will be a massive improvement for everyone- driverless owners and everyone else!
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Someone thought it was a good idea:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/102061/esc-wins-major-international-royal-award
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the start /stopping of the engine when you stop at a junction or traffic light does my nut in.
There should be a switch to over-ride the Stop/Start system. You just need to remember to press it every time you start the car.
Look for the switch with an "A" and a circular arrow.
Cheers dr M. Only had the car a short time. Been laid up so couldn’t answer sooner.thanks again.
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Electronic nanny systems, only ever once in 23yrs of driving actually thanked my lucky stars for having it....
But if I had reacted the way most people do when they activate I would have crashed....thankfully I saw the danger, & took appropriate action & forced the systems to work (ASR, ABS & EDL) to their best advantage as I know how they work pretty well....
the incident was on a back road in winter, car had winter tyres & the danger was huge sheet of hard black ice on a corner basically the whole road ....if you go off the corner,..slight slope then 10m drop down to stream & rocks.....& and as a "b class" road no barriers either..& no mobile signal in that area either..
As far as the Golf I have set various "nannys" to minimum...this is in the actual units codes, No hacking, the unit is made with those options & these are active in certain countries.
Insurance assessor will only look for fault codes & will not drill through the 1000's of coding lines in every module to see if this car deviates from the factory spec...& NO spec is stored of this even your VW dealer wont know some of the minor changes even if they hook the car up to FAZIT, as VCDS is not a hacking tool, you are just activating exiting coding VW put in the module.
The best mod is to turn the "starting vibration reduction" (forgotten module) to the lowest setting available. Why?? This setting cuts the engine power via the ignition & causes wheel hop & the thump/thump...usually set to "strong" at factory.
I have mine on lowest "normal" & it makes much smoother getaways which I can control on the throttle....only the ASR works a bit more if you trigger it...
ASR button, retro fitted mine as just touch screen only in GT spec. Coded button to ASR off/ sport as the screen only had ASR off...so now have the extra "sport" function which is standard on GTI/R as they use the same module as my car.
Way too many people are forgetting even basic road craft, & IMHO driving standards have plummeted.....engine on, car in gear...brain out of gear....
Oh & driverless cars can't cope with the current winter conditions....if they can't see the white lines forget it..as they still need to do this even with fancy GPS...
AS for "driving god"...nah still learning every day as you should, but given advanced instruction by a mate who was a test driver for several rally teams....& I drive "defensively", basically be aware of everything that is going on around you & 3, 5 cars back etc...& try to create a safety bubble around your car...
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90 replies in 10 days on the negatives of a Golf, it's a miracle anyone buys one at all!
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90 replies in 10 days on the negatives of a Golf, it's a miracle anyone buys one at all!
They are that perfect we have to find faults with them.... :grin:
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90 replies in 10 days on the negatives of a Golf, it's a miracle anyone buys one at all!
And we're the one's that chose them lol.
That said, I've posted in here but my current thinking is my next car will be another golf (probably Mk8)
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90 replies in 10 days on the negatives of a Golf, it's a miracle anyone buys one at all!
but what else comes close?
Audi, uninspiring interior
BMW, uninspiring
Hyundai, 😂😂😂
Suzuki, 😮😮😮
Ford, 🤢
Vauxhall, unreliability
Merc, disappointing
Toyota, uninteresting
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Golfs haveno faults, we just make them up to popoluate threads called What do you find annoying about your Mk7. I’m preparing a thread of the same name ready for the Mk8. :laugh:
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Golfs have no faults, they are perfect, we just make up faults to popoluate threads called What do you find annoying about your Mk7. I’m preparing a thread of the same name ready for the Mk8. :laugh:
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A lot of people on here will know of all the problems i had with my car when it was new but the only two things I find annoying are the seat bolsters seem to be made of soft cheese and when the car is wet and you open the boot and the VW badge spits water at you.
I love the car albeit I bought too many doors.