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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Golf mk7 GTD/TDI => Topic started by: bobwas4 on 20 April 2014, 19:10
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Has anybody had any dealings with these, as I like the idea of a remap that you can remove, and the figures are pretty awesome
golf gtd = 240bhp @ 500nm that's 3.0tdi power :D
If any of you kind people (Vag lovers) would share your experiences that would be great.
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Look at the ea288 development thread in the this section. Plenty on dtuk and the box
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Yup, or talk to monkeyhanger, he is very much enjoying his from what I've read ;-)
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You only need to read through the EA288 development thread to know how much I value my DTUK box. I was a true sceptic after trying out a TDI-tuning box and not liking the results, but now I have a 240Hp GTD which really improves over standard, reduces my DPF regens and has no discernible mpg penalty in use.
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And if you use the discount code GTD80 you'll save £80 off the full rrp too
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Thanks for all your input guys, I have to say im sold :D me being rather blind and not seing the ea288 thread, I have now ;)
is the engine still responsive in sport mode, or does it suffer from major turbo lag?
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Thanks for all your input guys, I have to say im sold :D me being rather blind and not seing the ea288 thread, I have now ;)
is the engine still responsive in sport mode, or does it suffer from major turbo lag?
I'd say the stock is slightly more laggy than with the DTUK box on, from a driveability point of view there are no downsides. The accelerator responds so well, imagine the response of stock in the first 2/3 of throttle pedal travel, and then having loads beyond it, all linearly delivered.
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yo man this device is epic. what pin do you have yours on I have it on map 4 +1 im abit scared to move it anywhere else.
thumbs up to Andrew and the team at dtuk :D
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yo man this device is epic. what pin do you have yours on I have it on map 4 +1 im abit scared to move it anywhere else.
thumbs up to Andrew and the team at dtuk :D
Leave it on 4+1. I gave 3+1 a try when Andrew's dyno sessions showed a marginal peak power increase, but the car felt a little lumpy getting there, rather than the silky smooth linear increase in power that 4+1 provides. Mine will be coming off tomorrow for Benfield's remedial work on some chipped paint they caused. The car is going to feel flat as a fart without it. I should be without my GTD for a few days, will probably be given a 1.0 UP! :angry:
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hello monkeyhanger what map do you normally run yours on? im currently on map 2+1 as I quiet like the low rev power?
have to say im very pleased thanks for all your help everyone.
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hello monkeyhanger what map do you normally run yours on? im currently on map 2+1 as I quiet like the low rev power?
have to say im very pleased thanks for all your help everyone.
4+1 for me. Really like the linear power delivery of 4+1, didn't like 3+1 so much. Low rev power? Don't be afraid to rev it a bit, the car really comes alive at 2300rpm.
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is number 4 when the pin jumpers cover all the pins? as atm that what I have it on as it is quiet fun ;)
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is number 4 when the pin jumpers cover all the pins? as atm that what I have it on as it is quiet fun ;)
Yes, and +1 is 3rd pin from left on right hand set of pins.
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Really tempted to book it in for a dyno, at 50 quid its not much for the hour. I just want to see if it really is the 240bhp they've quoted
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Really tempted to book it in for a dyno, at 50 quid its not much for the hour. I just want to see if it really is the 240bhp they've quoted
don't forget to change from sport and then back to sport onan ignition sequence, just in case my mode issue is present on yours (car not behaving like sport in sport mode unless you switch away from sport and back to it) and maybe it hinders the top end output.
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Really tempted to book it in for a dyno, at 50 quid its not much for the hour. I just want to see if it really is the 240bhp they've quoted
don't forget to change from sport and then back to sport onan ignition sequence, just in case my mode issue is present on yours (car not behaving like sport in sport mode unless you switch away from sport and back to it) and maybe it hinders the top end output.
Do you think that is a car fault or somehow related to the DTUK box? Have you mentioned it to anyone at DTUK, or tried the car without the box to see if you still get that issue???
I've just ordered my GTD - I think I'll be ordering one of these boxes a week BEFORE the car gets here so I'm good and ready!!!
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Nothing to with the box, the car has always had this quirk.
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and are we sure that, once removed, there's no way for VW to tell it was fitted?
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and are we sure that, once removed, there's no way for VW to tell it was fitted?
as long as the box is removed before heading back to VW, they cannot tell its ever been installed.
We supply a couple of Vw/Audi dealers who have confirmed this for us..
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How's everyone getting on with their boxes? All still going well, enjoying?
My car is nicely broken in so thinking of going for one soon. I'm finding the GTD is actually quick enough for me, but the idea of being a bit more effortless in putting some power down is appealing.
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How's everyone getting on with their boxes? All still going well, enjoying?
My car is nicely broken in so thinking of going for one soon. I'm finding the GTD is actually quick enough for me, but the idea of being a bit more effortless in putting some power down is appealing.
Still loving mine, it has transformed the car's performance beyond 2nd gear.
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Good to hear, thanks dude. I'll have to re-read your earlier reviews now that I have car to compare against :)
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So just to be clear are people buying the DTUK box POWER+ (230BHP) at £389 RRP or the CRD-T ULTIMATE CONTROL (240BHP) @ £395 RRP
Who has what one and what are the differences for installation/removal??
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So just to be clear are people buying the DTUK box POWER+ (230BHP) at £389 RRP or the CRD-T ULTIMATE CONTROL (240BHP) @ £395 RRP
Who has what one and what are the differences for installation/removal??
no, members are buying the CRD-T (240PS) for £365.95 as we offer additional discounts to members
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Thanks Andrew - will get my CRD-T ordered today then :)
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I briefly had my box on 4+0 but it seemed to be a little thirstier than 4+1 and a little duller in the initial response when you put your foot down. Drove down to Hartlepool today (34 miles). Due to the traffic, I could just about maintain 70mph for most of the journey, 21C ambient temp and the car did 51mpg (indicated). I was slightly underwhelmed by the mpg, considering the saintly drive down, and put the box back to 4+1. Drove back 4 hours later and it was 80-85mph all the way, including some hard acceleration along the slip-road to the A19, car managed 52mpg home. In reality the mpg for both ways was probably the same as I expect the box was over-reading indicated mpg marginally more on 4+1 than 4+0.
My commute to work all this week has been a solid 54mpg (indicated), and I haven't been sparing the horses. I managed to get the back end to kick out a little when I pulled away and turned on a staggered crossroads in Gosforth. I really didn't think the car cuold ever do that in the dry, even with Bridgestones on.
4+1 is what i'm sticking with.
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Just ordered my box 2 mins ago... Canna friggin wait!!!! 240ps here we come :laugh:
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Just ordered my box 2 mins ago... Canna friggin wait!!!! 240ps here we come :laugh:
Mind you'd your YouTube upload ha
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Don't worry I'll get a vid up ha!
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Sooo... The box arrived today. Have to say I'm very impressed with the service. Went on the live chat on the website around 2:30pm yesterday, ordered by 3pm and it arrived on my doorstep at 9:10am today!
Very happy with the quality box it comes in and the clear instructions also. Took me about 15-20 mins to install, I could've probably done it quicker but I wasn't in a rush and went through everything a few times before attempting.
I put it in 4+1 (as recommended by monkeyhanger). First time I started the engine I admit I had my fingers crossed. However, everything worked seamlessly. As for the extra power, only two words.... H*ly Sh*t!!!! It just wants to go all the time! 2nd and 3rd (for me) are a right hoot!!! 6th now has some oomph behind it where as before it was very lacklustre. It definitely feels a lot more nippy on it's toes. Economy wise I can't comment yet as I've only done a few miles with it on.
So First impressions are very good. I'm gonna be doing some testing with the box vs standard set up - am I right in thinking that the blanking plug reverts the car back to standard form if I take the box off but leave the cable in?
Lastly I was a bit concerned I was gonna connect the wrong plug to the wrong sensor, I'm guessing these can only go in one way? The rail and boost plug both look very similar?
Anyways, happy as a pig in sh*t :D
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Lastly I was a bit concerned I was gonna connect the wrong plug to the wrong sensor, I'm guessing these can only go in one way? The rail and boost plug both look very similar?
Cdnt agree more with that statement. Presume car wont start or move if youve not connected it properly. Im thinking if i have or not as i cdnt even beat an insignia cdti 2.0 smashing it from 3rd and in to 4th at some ehhh high speeds. Even if hes chipped his from 160bhp i should smash him with 249...so why havent i?
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Those plugs are ever so slightly different, you can't mix the 2 up and get a proper connection. If you unplug the box, just make sure the car has powereddown for 5 mins (if you listen carefully you can still hear a slight electric buzz from under the bonnet for a few mins after you've locked up - you can definitely hear it click off). I usually pop the bonnet, lock the car and leave it 5 mins before disconnecting or reconnecting the box. The extra power is definitely epic, the car will feel so dull without it when you drive it in for service/warranty work. As long as you don't significantly change your driving style (just get up to speed faster), you shouldn't see your mpg appreciably down on stock.
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So the blanking plug will just revert it to standard without the need to disconnect the supplied cable monkey?
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So the blanking plug will just revert it to standard without the need to disconnect the supplied cable monkey?
Yes. Only time I've wanted to disconnect is going to the dealership, so I've always disconnected the whole thing.
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Sooo... The box arrived today. Have to say I'm very impressed with the service. Went on the live chat on the website around 2:30pm yesterday, ordered by 3pm and it arrived on my doorstep at 9:10am today!
What does it come in it, are they still doing the forum discount?
I think in its original set up 2nd is quite flat and you have to really work at it to get it going. So good news if the box helps with that.
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Did a couple of 0-60 runs today. The vid didn't turn out so good as the angle on the clocks was too low and I had a reflection from the sun. Anyway, Best I managed was 6.6 seconds. Well happy with that! Road was totally flat with TC on and in sport mode. Will have to do it again though cos like I mentioned the vid came out p1ss poor :(
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Sooo... The box arrived today. Have to say I'm very impressed with the service. Went on the live chat on the website around 2:30pm yesterday, ordered by 3pm and it arrived on my doorstep at 9:10am today!
What does it come in it, are they still doing the forum discount?
I think in its original set up 2nd is quite flat and you have to really work at it to get it going. So good news if the box helps with that.
Comes in a DTUK branded box with the tuning box, split cable specific to your car, detailed instructions, couple of zip ties and a torx screw bit.
The box definitely helps with 2nd. In standard form I thought 2nd and 3rd were ok. With the box however all the gears give so much more, especially 4th/5th/6th. On a side note I really rate the continental tyre that came with the car. Really do have a lot of grip!
I would say the forum discount is still on as I got the discount couple of days ago, but would get Andrew to confirm it before mind...
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We've just renewed our forum sponsorship for another year the so the deal is still on
£80 off the full RRP by using the discount code GTD80 online, or by calling us on 01207299538
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Thanks carmaddad.
Cheers Andrew I'll be in touch. Probably at the end of the month.
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Good to hear that a decent set of tyres really helps the 0-62 times and second gear performance, will probably have to replace the Bridgestones sooner to take advantage. Can hardly believe VW would put those sh!tty tyres on and ruin bottom end performance on a £26K car.
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Hi guys,
so I take it no one is disputing 240bhp...what about the torque figures??? looking to buy one this month, any body selling theirs?
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I don't doubt the torque figures for a second. I'm sure Andrew has a graph showing both hp and torque increase on the development thread.
As for buying one.... Don't be a tight arse, buy a new one! We already get a healthy discount and the support is second to none!
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well said ...cant stop laughing...suppose i did deserve the comment :-)
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This probably belongs in the mpg thread, but as it's achieved with the DTUK box on, I thought I would comment here.
Took a trip down to Leeds today (105 miles each way), by far the furthest my GTD has been since new.
On the way down, 22C ambient temp in the morning, stopping at Stockton 1/3 of the way down and doing 80mph all the way down the A19 and A1, the car averaged 55mpg (indicated). The car was in Sport mode and the aircon was on all the way.
On the way back, it was 27C ambient until we were around Durham and it clouded over, dropping to 22C. The car was looking to be managing 57mpg doing 80mph all the way back until we hit about 6 miles of 50mph roadworks with average speed cameras and the mpg climbed steadily, end result for the return journey was 61.4mpg, doing 80-85mph (apart from the average speed camera zone and a few spurts to 90mph).
Bear in mind that the car is reading 9% optimistic with the box on vs 3% without, we're probably talking about equivalent indicated stock 52mpg/50mpg actual there and 58mpg stock indicated/55mpg actual back - with the aircon on! A smidge better than the best ever with my Scirocco (59mpg indicated/54mpg actual) on a 350 mile journey.
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Ordered yesterday with the help of Andrew!
Can't wait to try it out today :)
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You'll need to give us a review.
I'm patiently waiting till the end of the month. :undecided:
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Doh. It's at the post office! Will have to wait until tomorrow :(
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False alarm, father saved the day and picked it up!
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False alarm, father saved the day and picked it up!
Lol youl be fitting this tonight and out ASAP I can imagine, its a blast in 3rd past 3000rpm
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Finally got some time sitting in an airport to write a little review.
Okay, so first impressions are wow!
Delivery: Ordered Thursday afternoon, received Friday (via the post office)
Fitting: Fitted it on the Friday after work and took about 20 minutes to install. Quick tip is to let the engine cool down before trying to fit, but I didn't want to wait.
Instructions: They aren't the clearest so I took some photos and will do a post about fitting afterwards.
Testing: I installed it on 4 + 1 due to the recommendations on this forum, and think I'll leave it on it. The pull in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th is silly! 0-60 times seem to have improved and overtaking is a doddle. 1st and 2nd is hard to get the power down but other than that the overall increase in power and torque seems to be spot on.
Verdict: Buy one you'll love it!
ps. Wheelspin at 60mph in the wet is scary
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And also mpg seems to have improved, not sure if the computers reading true just now tho.
A trip to Edinburgh airport today gained 57mpg the best prior to the box going on was 50ish.
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Stuart: box will be around 9% optimistic if you have it on 4+1, about 3% optimistic unboxed. 57=53ish in reality. Still good going for a car with 243ps under the bonnet.
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What will the revised 0-60 times be with the CRD-T fitted?
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What will the revised 0-60 times be with the CRD-T fitted?
A few posts down there are videos with and without the box fitted
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=268925.0
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What will the revised 0-60 times be with the CRD-T fitted?
O-62 times won't be massively improved because you will not get all your power down in 1st and 2nd without wheelspin and tramping. You only need to look at A3 times with and without Quattro to see what difference a bit of extra grip gets , there's about 0.7s in it. The real gains are to be found in 3rd to 6th - 3rd and 4th to be really rapid, or the extra torque will see you maybe accelerate 70-80 or 80-90 without feeling the need to drop a gear or 2.
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Does Andrew at DTUK have a contact email address as have some questions I'd like to ask him ?
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Does Andrew at DTUK have a contact email address as have some questions I'd like to ask him ?
andrew(at)dieselchip.co.uk or give me a call on 01207 299538
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What will the revised 0-60 times be with the CRD-T fitted?
You won't notice much in your 0-62 times with the box on, unless you got very good front tyres with your GTD (it's all about the traction of the GTD when pulling away) - you will notice a big difference with acceleration above 30mph though.
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Hi, just bought the new version of the box recently (the one in Andrews pic few posts above) and was wondering which is the best map to use?
I know alot of people say 4+1 on the old box was recommended but this one has only 3 maps.
Ive tried 3+1 and 3+2 so far (havent had a great deal of time to play with the different settings due to work) but im not feeling a major difference power wise compared to stock. Mpg on the other hand, i drove 50 miles cruising in sport at 70mph and MFD stated 67.9 mpg :)
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The way the box works it will fool the car into reporting more MPG. Fill the car with fuel and measure your MPG that way.
I've found 3+1 is the best setting for me. If you're not noticing any major difference power wise compared to stock then either you aren't driving the car right or your box is faulty.
There is a slight increase in power in 1st and slightly more in 2nd gear but it comes alive in 3rd. It flies in that gear.
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@rash149:
3+2 (new settings, same as mine on 3+1) is definitely the sweet spot on the new box. Maybe you're a little insensitive to a bigger torque surge e.g. you just feel a big shove when you put your foot down and can't differentiate between the stock shove and the boxed shove. Try putting your foot down to pass a known reference point (such as a sign on a clear road).
I have done this to assess the performance increases on each of my last 5 cars. I come off a sliproad onto a major road at 30mph and then hoof it to see what speed I can reach before passing a certain sign:-
Old 140PD MK5 Golf = 70mph
Old 170PD MK5 Golf = 80mph
Scirocco 140CR = 78mph
Scirocco 170CR = 82mph
GTD (stock) = 82mph (disappointing!)
GTD (DTUK 3+1)= 90mph
You won't have much more usable power in 1st and 2nd (traction issues if you give it everrything), but 3rd and 4th are very noticeably different. You'll notice the difference in 6th too. If you are at 70 and want to get up to 80 quickly, it is hardly worth knocking down a gear or two to do it with the new box.
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The way the box works it will fool the car into reporting more MPG. Fill the car with fuel and measure your MPG that way.
I've found 3+1 is the best setting for me. If you're not noticing any major difference power wise compared to stock then either you aren't driving the car right or your box is faulty.
There is a slight increase in power in 1st and slightly more in 2nd gear but it comes alive in 3rd. It flies in that gear.
Ive driven the car 1500 miles before putting the box on, most of which included a heavy foot so I do believe I am driving the car correctly. I'm not sure if the box is faulty, too early to tell i guess since I haven't played around with it much due to work and constant rain every day since fitting the box, but from my initial impressions it doesn't seem significant compared to stock. Maybe my expectations were too high? or I'm doing it wrong? (does the car need be started when activating/switching maps or car off with key in pre-ignition?) 1st + 2nd seem similar as everyone mentions but 3rd and 4th does not seem to 'fly'
@rash149:
3+2 (new settings, same as mine on 3+1) is definitely the sweet spot on the new box. Maybe you're a little insensitive to a bigger torque surge e.g. you just feel a big shove when you put your foot down and can't differentiate between the stock shove and the boxed shove. Try putting your foot down to pass a known reference point (such as a sign on a clear road).
I have done this to assess the performance increases on each of my last 5 cars. I come off a sliproad onto a major road at 30mph and then hoof it to see what speed I can reach before passing a certain sign:-
Old 140PD MK5 Golf = 70mph
Old 170PD MK5 Golf = 80mph
Scirocco 140CR = 78mph
Scirocco 170CR = 82mph
GTD (stock) = 82mph (disappointing!)
GTD (DTUK 3+1)= 90mph
You won't have much more usable power in 1st and 2nd (traction issues if you give it everrything), but 3rd and 4th are very noticeably different. You'll notice the difference in 6th too. If you are at 70 and want to get up to 80 quickly, it is hardly worth knocking down a gear or two to do it with the new box.
Thanks, that's a good idea ill try that. My friend has ordered a GTD and is coming in few weeks, i was going to compare the 2 cars but this method should work also.
Also off topic but what does the button when you fully depress the accelerator do? I have had auto's in the past and they downshift to the lowest possible gear but never encountered it in a manual before?
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the ignition needs to be switched on when changing maps, also once you have selected a map the lights should be bright and sold.. don't touch anything else simply place the box in-between the air box and battery. If you then go for a drive and pull over, open the bonnet (leaving the engine running) the lights will be flashing very faintly.
we have had a couple of customers who has pressed the P button after selecting a map which actually switches the box off.
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@rash: re
Ive driven the car 1500 miles before putting the box on, most of which included a heavy foot so I do believe I am driving the car correctly. I'm not sure if the box is faulty, too early to tell i guess since I haven't played around with it much due to work and constant rain every day since fitting the box, but from my initial impressions it doesn't seem significant compared to stock. Maybe my expectations were too high? or I'm doing it wrong? (does the car need be started when activating/switching maps or car off with key in pre-ignition?) 1st + 2nd seem similar as everyone mentions but 3rd and 4th does not seem to 'fly'
I had unrealistic expectations to begin with and wasn't overly bowled over when I fitted it until I lived with it and took the box off...trust me, it makes a hell of an improvement!!! 1st no improvement, don't care what people say but there is a hell of an improvement in 2nd and so on! 3rd past 3000rpm does feel significantly different, pulls so much harder. Go for a wee race or as monkey hanger does, pick a sign or something in the road to compare your speed with your mates GTD, trust me, there will be a difference! Or just live with the box for a while on dry roads and take it off and it wont be long before its back on. Tempted myself to add the pedal box, good combo im sure.
And with manual, the click at the ar*e end of the accelerator only comes in handy when in eco mode, it seems to revert back to sport, ideal for overtaking when you need some more gas
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And with manual, the click at the ar*e end of the accelerator only comes in handy when in eco mode, it seems to revert back to sport, ideal for overtaking when you need some more gas
That's exactly what the "clicky" zone at the end of the pedal is for. If you need some clout but are stuck in eco mode then the car will give you everything it has when you stamp it.
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If you don't notice the difference with it on (as you get used to it), try taking it off and see the difference - it'll feel like you're driving through treacle!
Do the signpost test or something similar.
Also, might sound daft or condescending, but are you driving it right? Is this your first performance turbo diesel, coming from a petrol maybe? The change in driving style takes some getting used to.
What I mean is, when you want to accelerate hard you should be always above 1800rpm in anything but first and second gear, but the car has the best response from 2300 - 3800rpm, keep it in that sweet spot and you should know the difference. If you sit in 6th doing 50mph (1380rpm) and then stab the accelerator, that car is not going to respond too keenly until you pass 1800rpm. The engine is likely only putting out between 80 and 90hp before the turbo comes into play....no turbo = no power. You can easily use some light acceleration to creep up from 30-40mph in 4th or 5th gear, but if you want to change pace quickly then you need to be doing at least 1800rpm.
I've also found that driving mode of the car changes your perception of what the box is doing. Without the box on, sport mode definitely feels livelier at the lower end of the turbo range (1700-2200rpm) than normal, but above that the two modes are pretty much the same - i'm guessing VW put in a modest boost increase in sports mode at the lower end of the turbo zone revs. My car is about 10% thirstier in sports mode than in normal mode (with and without the box) and also the initial urgency in sports mode gives you a false sense of power at the lower end, making the upper end feel less urgent. If you are in Sports mode now, try putting it in normal and see if you can appreciate the difference the box makes more clearly. It won't be any less powerful above 2500 revs, but it definitely makes the power delivery seem far more linear when you are in normal mode. 3+1 or 3+2 is where you'll probably want to be.
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Rash: Or get the attention of a Civic R type - those drivers always seem to want to duel, they're like angry wasps in a beer garden! :laugh: Every time I get near one on the road in everyday driving they want to challenge me (maybe as they're getting a bit older they're now in the price range of the late teen boy racers?).
It'll probably be about odds on at stock for a GTD and a the R type accelerating 30-80mph, but with the box on you'll easily leave them behind.
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Also, might sound daft or condescending, but are you driving it right? Is this your first performance turbo diesel, coming from a petrol maybe? The change in driving style takes some getting used to.
I've also found that driving mode of the car changes your perception of what the box is doing. Without the box on, sport mode definitely feels livelier at the lower end of the turbo range (1700-2200rpm) than normal, but above that the two modes are pretty much the same - i'm guessing VW put in a modest boost increase in sports mode at the lower end of the turbo zone revs. My car is about 10% thirstier in sports mode than in normal mode (with and without the box) and also the initial urgency in sports mode gives you a false sense of power at the lower end, making the upper end feel less urgent. If you are in Sports mode now, try putting it in normal and see if you can appreciate the difference the box makes more clearly. It won't be any less powerful above 2500 revs, but it definitely makes the power delivery seem far more linear when you are in normal mode. 3+1 or 3+2 is where you'll probably want to be.
I am more used to (and probably suited) to performance petrols but I wouldn't say I'm a total noob with a fast diesal as I used to have 330d's, e320 cdi and the mk5 gt tdi. Plus I spent a good 1500 miles driving this one to get used to it.
I think what I am trying to say is, before I put the box on i was used to this cars stock performance, so i knew what it felt like at certain speeds and ranges (torque and responsiveness wise) and then after putting the box on, I just didnt feel 'Wowed' that i had expected after reading comments from forums. No doubt there is a performance increase from before but it just didn't feel significant to me.
I will definitely try the speed range thing you mentioned and what 'virginvwman' suggested by putting it back to stock and feeling the difference. Most likely I have been premature with my thinking and probably just got used to it too quickly or had unrealistic expectations.
I'll have this saturday to have some quality time playing around with the settings and getting others involved to get second opinion too.
Rash: Or get the attention of a Civic R type - those drivers always seem to want to duel, they're like angry wasps in a beer garden! :laugh: Every time I get near one on the road in everyday driving they want to challenge me (maybe as they're getting a bit older they're now in the price range of the late teen boy racers?).
It'll probably be about odds on at stock for a GTD and a the R type accelerating 30-80mph, but with the box on you'll easily leave them behind.
I wish i could find a type r to duel, there is barely any around here :grin:
There are a fair few cooper S though
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Where in Wales are you??
Lots of Corsa VXR's around South Wales; they're fun to wind up :whistle: :evil:
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You definitely notice the box more when you take it off. You quickly get used to the extra power when you stick it on. Let us all know your results with the "signpost" test or similar.
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Hello all
had my gtd 2 weeks so nice fitted my box yesterday but cant push the car as i lost a left front tyre on the way to work AGHHH
but is every one running 3+1 or 3+2 i have the new box.
Thanks
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Has anybody done any actual performance comparison figures yet, either 0-60 or mid range?
I know it's not the be all and end all, but I'm just intrigued to know what sort of acceleration you end up with compared to other cars?
Guess I'm getting excited as my GTD is due for delivery in a couple of weeks now - feels like it's been one helluva wait!
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Has anybody done any actual performance comparison figures yet, either 0-60 or mid range?
I know it's not the be all and end all, but I'm just intrigued to know what sort of acceleration you end up with compared to other cars?
Guess I'm getting excited as my GTD is due for delivery in a couple of weeks now - feels like it's been one helluva wait!
Nope, but I know it'll outdo a Civic R type easily, and will just about outdo an old Focus ST (225PS?), a 2.0TFSI TT MK2 and a 245ps 3.0TDI A6 in the 50-90 range. Off the line you'll struggle to put all that torque down without 4wd, but once you're in 3rd you're fine.
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Has anybody done any actual performance comparison figures yet, either 0-60 or mid range?
I reckon there'll be negligible difference in 0-60 time with the tuning box on as you're already traction limited without the box in first and second gear...
If you want something fast 0-60 don't buy a a front wheel drive diesel. You'll not win many races at Santa Pod...
In general road driving I reckon the performance difference will be very apparent... mid range, 50-70, 70-90 etc. on though...
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Ita 6.5 0-60. I was on an ever so slight downhill when trying today and achieved 6.1. Carmaddad has a video with and witjout box. He manages 6.7 I beleieve. The difference is great from 3rd onward but there is a difference in second!!!!! You just cant nail it in first as the wheela just light up
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Has anybody done any actual performance comparison figures yet, either 0-60 or mid range?
I know it's not the be all and end all, but I'm just intrigued to know what sort of acceleration you end up with compared to other cars?
Guess I'm getting excited as my GTD is due for delivery in a couple of weeks now - feels like it's been one helluva wait!
Just a few posts down!! http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=268925.0
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Where in Wales are you??
Lots of Corsa VXR's around South Wales; they're fun to wind up :whistle: :evil:
Down south in Newport. I see a fair few vxr's here and there. I'll wind up the next one I come across and see what happens :grin:
You definitely notice the box more when you take it off. You quickly get used to the extra power when you stick it on. Let us all know your results with the "signpost" test or similar.
Ok I feel like a bit of a k**b now... Put the car back to normal on saturday and I definitely noticed the decrease in power. Low down its similar (though still noticeable compared to box) but high end there is a big difference. Anyone know of a dyno near this area? (south wales) Im curious to know what this car is pushing in stock compared to dtuk box fitted.
Im also trying to fiddle around to see which map gives best mpg, i tried a 200 mile journey going at 70mph with map 3 minus 3 and i got 49mpg (mfd stated 64mpg) which is basically the same as i what got on a 120 mile journey using 3 + 2. Any one else played around with the maps to get good mpg?
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Give me a shout if you want to try a proper remap :wink:
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Give me a shout if you want to try a proper remap :wink:
That no doubt causes issues with TD1 too :)
And before you say anything , that's come from a highly respected Belgium remapper we supply that shared the info about the latest CMD updates :)
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Give me a shout if you want to try a proper remap :wink:
That no doubt causes issues with TD1 too :)
And before you say anything , that's come from a highly respected Belgium remapper we supply that shared the info about the latest CMD updates :)
Remapping / fitting a tuning box has risks no matter which way you look at it. What happens if an engine goes bang?? Upon inspection they will find what caused it and realise that the engine was running above factory levels even if you remove the map and or box
I know plenty of people who have mapped their cars from day one and have NEVER had a single issue with claiming on warranty :smiley:
You'll run into problems if you hide the fact they you have modified your vehicle from day one.
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Give me a shout if you want to try a proper remap :wink:
That no doubt causes issues with TD1 too :)
And before you say anything , that's come from a highly respected Belgium remapper we supply that shared the info about the latest CMD updates :)
Remapping / fitting a tuning box has risks no matter which way you look at it. What happens if an engine goes bang?? Upon inspection they will find what caused it and realise that the engine was running above factory levels even if you remove the map and or box
I know plenty of people who have mapped their cars from day one and have NEVER had a single issue with claiming on warranty :smiley:
You'll run into problems if you hide the fact they you have modified your vehicle from day one.
yeah, but are you referring to the latest VAG's that fall under the TD1 umbrella? were supplying more and more main dealers with kits that have previously mapped cars, due to the fact that they know that TD1 will cause them serious issues with the brand
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Give me a shout if you want to try a proper remap :wink:
That no doubt causes issues with TD1 too :)
And before you say anything , that's come from a highly respected Belgium remapper we supply that shared the info about the latest CMD updates :)
Remapping / fitting a tuning box has risks no matter which way you look at it. What happens if an engine goes bang?? Upon inspection they will find what caused it and realise that the engine was running above factory levels even if you remove the map and or box
I know plenty of people who have mapped their cars from day one and have NEVER had a single issue with claiming on warranty :smiley:
You'll run into problems if you hide the fact they you have modified your vehicle from day one.
yeah, but are you referring to the latest VAG's that fall under the TD1 umbrella? were supplying more and more main dealers with kits that have previously mapped cars, due to the fact that they know that TD1 will cause them serious issues with the brand
Yes
Question for you then. Those who hit limp mode etc will have a fault code stored in the ECU. What happens when the car goes to the dealer and they see those fault codes??
Not everyone has the equipment to clear DTC's...... :sad:
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is what someone has already past car dyno?
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is what someone has already past car dyno?
Welcome to the forum but haven't a clue what your question is!!
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sorry I'm french and I'm not at the top to speak English
which has already passed the car on the power bench with DTUK
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Maybe write your question in French and someone will be able to translate better. :smiley:
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Looks like he is asking if anyone has put their car on a dyno with the tuning box yet.
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Dtuk have but don't think anyone else has who has bought one.
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Hi monkey hanger
I have just picked up the DTUK stage 2 CRDT+ for my GTD mk 7. When you mention new box and settings 3.2 are referring to the CRDT+ which only has three program's? Apparently the one before had 4 programs.
I'm still on standard setting which is not much difference but not changed it yet
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The way the box works it will fool the car into reporting more MPG. Fill the car with fuel and measure your MPG that way.
I've found 3+1 is the best setting for me. If you're not noticing any major difference power wise compared to stock then either you aren't driving the car right or your box is faulty.
There is a slight increase in power in 1st and slightly more in 2nd gear but it comes alive in 3rd. It flies in that gear.
Hi did you notice a difference between 3.1 3.2?
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Hi monkey hanger
I have just picked up the DTUK stage 2 CRDT+ for my GTD mk 7. When you mention new box and settings 3.2 are referring to the CRDT+ which only has three program's? Apparently the one before had 4 programs.
I'm still on standard setting which is not much difference but not changed it yet
When referring to 3+2, I do mean on the new box (CRDT+). I had an old box (which had 4 programs, which changed by a jumper system rather than buttons on the box) and got a swap to the new one. I was using 4+1 on the old system, there isn't much difference between old 4+1 and new 3+2.
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Thanks mate appciate it, wow! What a difference. Feels good, thought about 3.3 but will go with your experience
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Can I post a link to my classified ad on the website for my DTUK box on here? Not sure if it's allowed or not??
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TheCarMadDad - how did you get on with your advert for selling your DTUK box, i also have a CRD-T (jumper style box for sale) ;)
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Just out of interest why did you both sell your boxes?
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Hi mcmaddy. i am selling as got an 18 month lease deal at end of 2013 when they first rolled out the VW GOLF GTD leasing deals, so was only £249 a month inc VAT for 10k mpa, with full maintenance. And the DTUK won't fit in my M135i..
Still not sold the unit so open to offers around £250 for anyone who wants to grab a bargain - PM me
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Anyone running this one dsg car? If so how does it perform? I need to sort this poor throttle response on pull away :angry:
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Just installed this, this morning on my manual GTD, which runs on 19's. First time l have installed a kit like this and took me less than 10 minutes, all the connections were straight forward as was the cable routing and setting the programme. Currently l am running programme 3 with a +1.
As previous reports have been made it is true, the upper gears accelerate alot quicker. Tried a rolling start on my pzeros on the 19's had good traction and you could here the tyres ripping the tarmac, good fun.
Is anyone or has anyone run the +2 setting on programme three? How did it run, any negatives?
Just waiting for my Milltek GTi twin exit system to turn up now😎.
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Spoke to the ever helpful guys at DTUK and they advised to stay away from the +2 option as it is likely that the engine management light might come on. Must say l am very pleased with the +1 set up.. :smiley:
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Hope this isn't frowned upon by posting here but also have my CRDT box for sale in the classifieds section -
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275443.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=275443.0)
Only selling due to the imminent arrival of a new R Estate. Cheers.
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Hi,
I see Andy's has sold.
I will also have a DTUK box for sale shortly. Perfect condition and have original packaging and paperwork.
PM if interested.
Ta.
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I fitted my DTUK CRD-T to my GTD on Saturday morning.
I'm still trying out the different modes, P3+1 was the first I tried, lots of low ratio power - in the wet I had a lot of wheelspin :) Really notice the extra power..
I think I'll try a different mode on my way home today..
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Hi,
I see Andy's has sold.
I will also have a DTUK box for sale shortly. Perfect condition and have original packaging and paperwork.
PM if interested.
Ta.
Hi, I'm looking to purchase one for the GTD. What model is it?
I'm from West Yorkshire, how much you looking for?
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For those with the new DTUK CRD-T box, is the general consensus that 3+2 is the mode to be in?
3+1 gives me burst of power too early - 3+3 gives me unexpected burst of power in the mid range - 3+2 seems to give me a more even distribution of power just when I want it..
Just curious :)
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I've been using 1+1 the last few months, is pretty smooth and seems to give an extra surge close to 4000 rpm which is fun! Was on 3+1 prior to that, I'll have to change back at some point to compare.
I don't use anything higher than +1 as I think this is the safest level for the car to avoid engine lights and what not - although you may be fine of course, it's just what DTUK tend to advise.
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I've been using 1+1 the last few months, is pretty smooth and seems to give an extra surge close to 4000 rpm which is fun! Was on 3+1 prior to that, I'll have to change back at some point to compare.
I don't use anything higher than +1 as I think this is the safest level for the car to avoid engine lights and what not - although you may be fine of course, it's just what DTUK tend to advise.
I used mine exactly the same currenty on 3+1 but originally used 1+1. I find 3+1 has a better torque curve rather than all or nothing on 1+1. Never go above +1 as I believe this can cause issues and fault logging which is not good if you don't have VCDS to clear them before any dealer visits :whistle:
I understand that the maps are actually written @ +0 so +1 could be quite an increase
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We've recently introduced a new 3 channel system for the 2.0TDI 150/184PS, if any current trevor owners would like to upgrade their box, then drop us an email on support(@)dtuk-performance.co.uk
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We've recently introduced a new 3 channel system for the 2.0TDI 150/184PS, if any current trevor owners would like to upgrade their box, then drop us an email on support(@)dtuk-performance.co.uk
Any chance of giving us some info Andrew in what the benefits would be?
I have the Trevor and am happy with it but could be interested if the new box has other benefits!
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We've recently introduced a new 3 channel system for the 2.0TDI 150/184PS, if any current trevor owners would like to upgrade their box, then drop us an email on support(@)dtuk-performance.co.uk
Hi Andrew,
Depending on what the insurance implications would be for the missus on her 2015 A1 1.6TDI (116ps) I might be interested in a box for it - any plans for 3 channel system with that engine?
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I spoke to Andrew via email there is a cost to upgrade but it will be cheaper if you purchased direct yourself and not bought 2nd hand. The change is as below:
its a brand new loom that now also connects to the cam sensor, plus a software reflash..
He never mention £ :rolleyes: for either
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So will it be more powerful?
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Why doesn't someone just ask Andrew? simply really :rolleyes:
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Didn't you?
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More power and torque isn't really what's needed as you're probably approaching the limits for clutch etc. The official German systems don't go anywhere near the figures from dtuk.
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The GTD's drivetrain seems to be more overengineered than that of the GTI and R. Plenty of R owners pushing out 360PS and GTI owners getting into stock R territory with a box or remap that have slipped their clutch, haven't heard of a GTD owner doing the same with mods to get them to around 240PS/500Nm.
It would be interesting to know if the 2.0TDI BiTurbo lump in the Passat has the same clutch and flywheel as the single turbo variants.
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The new box is on there website it just states that it measures rpm so also plugs into the cam sensor. Can't see it giving more BHP but it may well improve response & give a smoother delivery. Really depends on cost as to trying it or not.
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No more power from the box, just a smoother delivery of the power.
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Ok so worth chucking £50 at it but no more
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No more power from the box, just a smoother delivery of the power.
I'd think at 240 bhp the box would be running as much power as the engine could take before it started over fuelling and smoking like buggery whilst getting all juddery. In fact I'm surprised it puts out that much considering all the emissions crap attached to it.
How does the GTI compare to the boxed GTD Stevie?
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No more power from the box, just a smoother delivery of the power.
I'd think at 240 bhp the box would be running as much power as the engine could take before it started over fuelling and smoking like buggery whilst getting all juddery. In fact I'm surprised it puts out that much considering all the emissions crap attached to it.
How does the GTI compare to the boxed GTD Stevie?
Does all the emissions crap measure NOx, or does it assume that that the signals sent from the engine to the common rail/boost (and possibly the cam sensor if you go 3 channels) give compliant emissions when taking into account engine temp? I suspect not. My DPF regens halved with the DTUK box on my GTD, so i'm assuming that combustion temp went up a bit, taking care of more soot, at the detriment of higher NOx output.
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How does the GTI compare to the boxed GTD Stevie?
So far I've not taken the GTI up over 4000rpm however off the line the standard GTI feels more energetic whereas the boxed GTD feels better while rolling.
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How does the GTI compare to the boxed GTD Stevie?
So far I've not taken the GTI up over 4000rpm however off the line the standard GTI feels more energetic whereas the boxed GTD feels better while rolling.
That sounds about right. The GTI is much faster revving and feels pretty eager but the DTUK GTD's torque and higher gearing should make it a beast once rolling.
The GTI definitely frees up a bit once you've done over 1000km in it.
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Thanks for all your input guys, I have to say im sold :D me being rather blind and not seing the ea288 thread, I have now ;)
is the engine still responsive in sport mode, or does it suffer from major turbo lag?
I'd say the stock is slightly more laggy than with the DTUK box on, from a driveability point of view there are no downsides. The accelerator responds so well, imagine the response of stock in the first 2/3 of throttle pedal travel, and then having loads beyond it, all linearly delivered.
Can you point me in the direction of this thread Monkeyhanger - looking to get one of these and want to make sure its the right decision
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Just need to be careful with judder under acceleration on the gtds. Some owners suffered with it (I did) and returned the box as couldn't get fixed. Dtuk dodged all liability and blamed the car and then didn't fully refund even though it was within 7 days. You may be fine as many owners are but just be aware.
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Just need to be careful with judder under acceleration on the gtds. Some owners suffered with it (I did) and returned the box as couldn't get fixed. Dtuk dodged all liability and blamed the car and then didn't fully refund even though it was within 7 days. You may be fine as many owners are but just be aware.
This is what i have been reading about and there have been a few posts about it - hence my reluctance maybe just wait til its out of warranty and get an ECU Remap done instead thanks
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Just need to be careful with judder under acceleration on the gtds. Some owners suffered with it (I did) and returned the box as couldn't get fixed. Dtuk dodged all liability and blamed the car and then didn't fully refund even though it was within 7 days. You may be fine as many owners are but just be aware.
This is what i have been reading about and there have been a few posts about it - hence my reluctance maybe just wait til its out of warranty and get an ECU Remap done instead thanks
Jeni,
if the car is driven like a fanny or if the box is set too high ( when customers ignore our advice or the instruction manual) then you can get the car to judder in stock form, we've sold over 1500 kits onto the 2.0 184ps in the last 3 years alone, in that time the manufacturers have changed the software on the ECU's several times and we have done so to suit this..
with an extra 100nm in the lower Rpm, driving the car in 6th gear (assuming its a manual) at 30mph isn't the best way of driving the car..
FROM MONKEYHANGER -GOLFGTIFORUM.CO.UK
22nd Mar 14 OK, here it is, done about 40 miles in it since fitment, this is the dual channel CRDT box (rated 235PS) Firstly, my car has been running a bit sh!tty in the 50 miles pre-box. Smack in the middle of a spell of DPF regenning, last night I had to give my cousin a jump-start when he flattened his battery in Newcastle City Centre last night and called me up, in prime pub-kicking out time. Spent 20 mins crawling around the 1/2 mile of road surrounding the Central train station, which made things worse and then 10 mins of 2000 rpm idling while he tried to get his sh!tty Citroen people carrier to splutter into life. After a short spell at the Metrocentre this morning, I headed out to DTUK when Andrew confirmed he could meet me (and save me waiting for the postie on Tuesday). After getting there, Andrew fitted the box off his Skoda onto mine to see how it runs (set at 4+1, Andrews recommended top setting). The industrial estate consists of a 3/4 mile long road, and it was empty, so I did a quick spurt to 80mph and back down to sensible levels. Huge difference. Did same on the way back. Andrew then put the software onto the new box and fitted it to my car. Repeated the blast along the industrial estate, my box seemed a tiny bit better, or maybe I was just more confident in it’s use. Came back, then had a chat with Andrew about TDIs we’ve had in the past etc (for about an hour!!!) Firstly, I would say that I prefer this box to the TDI-tuning box I trialledthey are 2 very different animals. The TDI-tuning box is raw and savage, some people might prefer that, but for me a sudden surge of power that causes wheelspin at 60mph in 3rd when you put your foot down is a bit of a widow-maker. At times with that box on setting 7, I felt I could quite easily James Dean the car. The CRDT has a much smoother and linear development of poweras smooth as the GTD’s stock power range, but just more of it. Unlike my experiences with the TDI-tuning box, the idling was as smooth as stockI experienced lumpy idling with the TDI-tuning box, but Buddy hadn’t noticed on his. When we took my dad’s TDI-tuning box off his MK5 GT 170 to trade in for his DSG GTD, his idling became smoother. The car ran at the hot end of the spectrum for the 40 miles (24 miles home and 16 miles going to pick the missus up from work) I drove around on after fitting the box (minimum 95C, but staying at 102C for a good 10 mins, and then being happy to be sat around 97-98C for most of the time). I wasn’t sure whether the running hot was down to me booting it a bit, or whether it was a continuation of the DPF regen that had been going on. I do think my stock GTD was running on the cold side, as if this was the main cause of my slightly poor mpg and frequent DPF regen. A few days will tell if the boxed GTD has a preference for running at 95-97C, as my Scirocco did, if so, I might see my mpg and regen interval improve on that score alone. The car feels complete now, like it was meant to be. At stock i’m feeling it is no faster than my Scirocco 170TDI. Got onto the A19 at Killingworth, up a long and steep sliproad from the road below. Me and a Civic Type R got on the 2 lane sliproad at the same time and I annihilated the R. It was trying very hard, but not even close. Those things have no torque so maybe a standard GTD would outdo them up a hill (just). Got home and 90 mins later I went to pick up the missus from work (overtime). On my rolling start run onto the coast road, for which I have measured previous cars performance against by the speed at which I pass a sign, I managed 88mph (it was quiet and I took it straight back down to 75 ), compared to 81mph average on my GTD and 83mph average on my Scirocco. The other thing that seems to have improved my drive is pull away from a standstill. The worst thing about the auto handbrake is that I always pull away ultra cautiously until after the autohold has fully let goit feels like if you give it some for a quick getaway then you’ll stall (it probably won’t but it feels that way). My car doesn’t feel like that any more, the car feels like it’ll easily overcome the bite of the autohold for a better getaway. You’ve got to have a bit of restraint in 2ndseems the easiest point of an acceleration move to wheelspin if you’re not careful. Over the moon with the box, and on the assumption that I won’t get any more regens than I get already (time will tell), i’ll have no regrets at all. I reset my MFD “since start” mpg reading when I left DTUK. It had been an abysmal 41mpg due to all the regenning which followed the previous night’s events. By the time I got home (24 miles later), it was up to 55mpg. I suspect that like the TDI-tuning.co.uk box, the indicated mpg will be somewhere in the region of 15% optimistic at the higher settings, making an actual 47mpg far more likely (about what I would have expected from stock with as much hooning around as I did from a hot start). I will keep you updated with actual mpg/regen info. In fact I might top the car back up tomorrow just so we can see a “whole tank” mpg that isn’t biased by the sh!tty run I had between filling up and fitting the box. Update from Matt… Aye I must admit that the box has brought out the boy racer in me at times, and greater enjoyment every time I use the car. I haven’t enjoyed a car so much since I had use of my boss’s Ford Granada Scorpio Cosworth for 2 weeks as a 19 year old when he went on holiday! When the car has this much go, you forget about chasing the mpg so much (not that I am any worse off with the box on) and just learn to enjoy the extra performance with very little fuel penalty. GTD mpg and GTI exceeding performancethe best of both worlds. The right box has made such a difference. Not only loads more power and torque, but usable torque and power, with a natural feeling of progressive delivery. I’ve got to get my car booked in to the dealership for a door realignment (the rubbers between the front and back passenger doors slightly rub when the front door is opened)going back to stock for a day or 2 is going to be hard!
https://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/testimonials/monkeyhanger-golfgtiforum-co-uk/
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one of the most recent customer supplied dyno sheets using the 3 Channel CRD3+ :whistle:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/ABYSS69/9678B22C-9A23-4FA0-988F-6630012A02B0_zpsk4ygepvu.jpeg)
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Neither of the things you mentioned were happening on my car, it wasn't driven like a fanny and the settings weren't even moved from your stock settings! It also wasn't driven at 30mph in 6th either. It's a generic box that doesn't always suit every car but blaming customers is a cracking level of customer support so well done.
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Neither of the things you mentioned were happening on my car, it wasn't driven like a fanny and the settings weren't even moved from your stock settings! It also wasn't driven at 30mph in 6th either. It's a generic box that doesn't always suit every car but blaming customers is a cracking level of customer support so well done.
To be honest customers can be/ and are to blame for a lot of issues, as some simply don't listen to our advice and then end up slagging us off online, but there again we do live in the age of the "keyboard warrior"
18 months ago we started adding stickers on the front of a module and a warning on the front of the instructions asking customers to contact us before they start and play with the settings, id say at least 70% of customers actually do email us and its saved a lot of issues. But the 30% seam to miss both of these things and then wonder why they're having problems.
5 years on from the 2.0 GTD 184PS being launched and were still tuning as many as we were back in 2013, so we must be doing something right :)
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I've actually made a point of not saying anything untoward just advising caution to others. I'm sure the majority of owners are perfectly happy but unfortunately I wasn't and my car for some reason or another just didn't like the addition of a box no matter what setting it was on or how it was driven. So with your 14 day returns policy I thought everything would be simple for a full refund but instead you kept a restocking fee and said if you ever come back for another box I'll give you the fee off the price! That's where my problem is as it's not really a 14 day return policy is it?
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one of the most recent customer supplied dyno sheets using the 3 Channel CRD3+ :whistle:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/ABYSS69/9678B22C-9A23-4FA0-988F-6630012A02B0_zpsk4ygepvu.jpeg)
Get a youtuber to do 10 half mile runs with a DTUK car and a REVO tuned car or similar - put your money where your mouth is :wink: :wink: We need to put this remapping/tuning box rivalry to bed.
I know I am a bit late to the party. I just wanted to relay and ask for a bit of information regarding the boxes? I have been told by a very reputable well known tuning company that there is no way to get the GTD past 225-230bhp and that is on high octane fuel, unless you upgrade the turbo. Please understand, I am simply curious and am not trying to cause beef and I haven't mentioned anything to them about DTUK, I only mentioned about the tuning boxes in general.
I have a stage 1 map on mine and it has made a difference through every gear, especially from 4th. I have never trusted dyno's as my mate actually owns one for his shop, and he has told me that he doesn't even trust his own dyno 100% (he even lets his customers know that it could be out by a few BHP, even when calibrated). and that the majority add more power on the graphs, fluctuating up to 5-10% above and below the actual BHP figure. However, mainly above.
I am sceptical about the 240bhp claim simply because all the other tuners (mappers) state a maximum of 230bhp, I think REVO claim 232 when converted from PS to BHP. FYI, it was not REVO that I spoke to about 230 being the absolute max.
I think this needs to be settled properly with 10 half mile drag races against a REVO stage 1 or similar. If this has already been done then great, but it would need to be a proper REVO fan or similar, with a clear background in using REVO or similar, on a few cars, so that people do not think the results are manipulated.
If the car does kick 240BHP then we will see clearly over 10 half miles runs that the DTUK tuned car will very slightly pull ahead, even if it is only half a car length - To me, half a car length would get me buying one.
I think there are probably several hundred thousand people that would want to see this. I have been waiting over 2 years to see this. Also, it would be amazing publicity for DTUK - I am sure one of the youtubers like 'Officially Gassed' would happily set something up.
If the results are in favour of the DTUK I will buy one, and drive around with a fat DTUK sticker on my bumper for calling you out.