F1 Thread

[Devilz]

I watched topgear episode 5 last night on iplayer in clarkson watches video's of Ayrton Senna and gives his verdict about him. He use to do the same, either other driver crashes or back out. IMO thats what racing is, you don't give your position away without trying to defend and schumacher did the same. but he got 10 grid plenty for next race 

[A7 UFO]

there's defending and then there's tempting someone into a position and cutting them off against a concrete wall at 190mph

[Devilz]

there's defending and then there's tempting someone into a position and cutting them off against a concrete wall at 190mph

thats what senna use to do, other drivers use to crash into him or back out 

[AlanD]

Crashed into him or backed out . . . . I don't ever recall Senna sending someone into a wall on purpose at nearly 200mph.

[adamrob69]

theres only one occasion i can remember senna actualy doing that and that was against Prost when he took him off on the first corner. But he only did that because he qualified pole but they stuck him on the dirty side of the grid so he said im either coming out the first corner in first place or neither of us are going to get through!


There is a time and a place. MS clearly broke the rules and got punished - rightly so. If you are entering or exiting a corner that is different (which is what i think the senna comment was regarding) you have the right to commit to one move and then you have to stick to your line. If the one move is a risky move then so be it, but you dont do it on a straight at 200mph and you dont make more then one move (which in my opinion MS did)

[gooseuk]

I remember one move from senna. All senna had to do was finish ahead of prost or i think and then he was world champion. Off the line prost was ahead so senna smashed into the back of prost causing them both to crash and making senna world champion.

What schumacher did yesturday has happend for years. Very bad but this is motor racing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9oUii8XHYY&feature=related

7.55 into this shows you senna taking out prost on purpose.

[VeeDubGTI16v]

You say he put him into the wall, but how did rubens pass then? A cars gap was left. It was an agressive move but not dangerous for drivers as good as f1 drivers

[Devilz]

You say he put him into the wall, but how did rubens pass then? A cars gap was left. It was an agressive move but not dangerous for drivers as good as f1 drivers

agree

+1

[Horney]

If the wall hadn't been there I reckon it was OK but Schumi was basically trying the "Eat wall or back off" approach which is a bit more Nascar than F1. Closing the door before anyone steps in it is OK, but closing the door when they're halfway in is a bit out of order.

Made for exciting television though!

Nick

[Devilz]

Schumacher: I crossed the line with Barrichello move