034 dog bone lower insert opinion

[Rob_benton]

Hi

I’ve had the upper and lower inserts on my dsg for about a year now and decided I want to remover them or just the upper  due to nvh. I’m thinking of just using the lower insert.
The 034 website says you shouldn’t fit the lower insert without the upper insert as there’s a risk of damage to the dog bone over time but before the upper was invented, everyone just used the lower.

Has anyone got any opinions of just using the lower insert ?
My car is a standard PP so no excess power.

 And I’ve got the latest version.

Thanks 

[fredgroves]

Presumably if you have done this to a stock GTI PP, its to overcome wheel tramp?

Have you thought about:

1) better tyres (PS4)
2) lighter wheels

Both of those address wheel tramp without shaking out your fillings.

[Rob_benton]

Presumably if you have done this to a stock GTI PP, its to overcome wheel tramp?

Have you thought about:

1) better tyres (PS4)
2) lighter wheels

Both of those address wheel tramp without shaking out your fillings.

Yes and I’ve got PS4’s. No tramping but at the cost of nvh.

[DCmk3]

The lower insert alone should be fine, it will add some additional vibration to the car/cabin when taking off if you don't mind that.
After some miles it does "dampen" a little and become less harsh. I have the Leyo dogbone lower insert in my car.

[Finglonga]

Had the lower insert in my PP for 5 years with absolutely no issues as there was only the lower part then. Sounds like just marketing BS that it may cause damage.

[Rob_benton]

The lower insert alone should be fine, it will add some additional vibration to the car/cabin when taking off if you don't mind that.
After some miles it does "dampen" a little and become less harsh. I have the Leyo dogbone lower insert in my car.

I’m hoping nvh will be reduced without the upper insert and just the lower inserted fitted.
I’ve covered 5,000 miles with both fitted at it didn’t quite down  a bit but not enough.
Thanks

[Rob_benton]

Had the lower insert in my PP for 5 years with absolutely no issues as there was only the lower part then. Sounds like just marketing BS that it may cause damage.

That’s what I’m thinking. Thanks

[DCmk3]

The lower insert alone should be fine, it will add some additional vibration to the car/cabin when taking off if you don't mind that.
After some miles it does "dampen" a little and become less harsh. I have the Leyo dogbone lower insert in my car.

I’m hoping nvh will be reduced without the upper insert and just the lower inserted fitted.
I’ve covered 5,000 miles with both fitted at it didn’t quite down  a bit but not enough.
Thanks

I can imagine it's a lot firmer with both, but I would say remove the top one and see how it feels. I am sure it should reduce the vibrations a fair bit.

I am making a fair amount of power over factory with just the lower insert and I have had no issues so far with plenty spirited driving around the mountains. 

[baka]

You could try a poly lower insert, but I've heard these have more nvh than the metal ones.

Hopefully unless your doing lots of hard starts, you should be good with just the lower 0034 mount.

[Rob_benton]

Thanks for the info.
I’ve removed the upper insert and left the lower insert.
Massive difference to nvh.
It’s so much better.