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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GTI_Ant on 17 February 2018, 21:13
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Collected my new 7.5 R this week. The removal of the battery cover and the mirror mounting bolt cover is a well known penny pinch but now the under-seat drawers have gone! Bit annoyed as I found them useful :angry:. It would be interesting to hear from other 7 to 7.5 owners as to whether they have noticed any other items changed or disappeared! It's a bit rubbish that they decided to remove this on the R.
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There was a long thread on this before. I think the isofix covers are gone too?
Tight arses indeed.
Does the removal of the underseat drawers allow the seat to lower a bit more by any chance?
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Hmm, interesting. My 7.5 GTD does have underseat drawers.
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There was a long thread on this before. I think the isofix covers are gone too?
Tight arses indeed.
Does the removal of the underseat drawers allow the seat to lower a bit more by any chance?
Sorry I didn't know this had been covered before. My friend has a 7.5R delivered just 3 months before mine and he has the under-seat drawers. It must be deliberate and not a mistake as it has been removed from the manual.
I don-t think the seat goes any lower (I always have on the lowest setting) which is a shame.
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My GTI PP (built w44/17) did have isofix covers.
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I think they are gradually trimming stuff off in production. I guess that there is a drive to save costs wherever they can after Dieselgate.
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Penny pinching isn’t just restricted to the mk7.5 Golf. On the T-Roc and new Polo;
- hard plastic door cards (T-Roc and Polo)
- hard plastic dash (T-Roc)
- no headliner mounted grab handles above the doors (Polo)
- the tailgate catch on the boot sill no longer has the little spring loaded cover (T-Roc and Polo)
Some changes such as use of less tactile, premium feeling plastics are out and out cost cutting, rather than penny pinching IMO. I dare say penny pinching and cost cutting will be a feature across all VW models as model year changes, face lifts and new models are introduced. A few pounds saved per vehicle means increased profits for VW, plus Dieselgate has to be paid for one way or another............... :whistle:
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Some of these things matter, some don't. I'd probably still have ordered my Golf without the underseat drawers, but the cheap plastic dashboard did put me off waiting for the T-Roc launch. Penny pinching here and there won't be noticed by most, except for us on here, however just about every review i've seen of the T-Roc mentions the hard plastic interior.
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Is that all that unusual though? The T Roc is based off the Polo right? Granted I’ve not been in a new Polo but any Polo I’ve been in before was decidedly low rent compared to the big brother Golf.
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Is that all that unusual though? The T Roc is based off the Polo right? Granted I’ve not been in a new Polo but any Polo I’ve been in before was decidedly low rent compared to the big brother Golf.
The T-Roc might be based off the new Polo but the top spec T-Roc SEL FWD model with a 2 litre 190 ps engine and 7 speed DSG has a current list price of £31,485 before you add any options, so price-wise, it’s not in the Polo price bracket; it’s in Golf GTI territory (current list price of the 5 door Golf GTI PP with 7 speed DSG is £31,645). Granted, with the top of the range T-Roc you’re getting FWD, but at that price, there’s probably (and not unreasonably?) a customer expectation of an interior that’s on a par with a Golf in terms of tactile, soft touch materials and not hard, scratchy plastic.
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Is that all that unusual though? The T Roc is based off the Polo right? Granted I’ve not been in a new Polo but any Polo I’ve been in before was decidedly low rent compared to the big brother Golf.
Top of the range Polo is £9k (yes NINE thousand pounds) cheaper than the top of the range T-Roc, yet the Polo gets a nice soft touch dash and the T-Roc gets a hard scratchy one. Something not right there.
This is what Mat Watson thinks about it
https://youtu.be/v90tTV74QZE
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The T-Roc might be based off the new Polo but the top spec T-Roc SEL FWD model with a 2 litre 190 ps engine and 7 speed DSG has a current list price of £31,485 before you add any options, so price-wise, it’s not in the Polo price bracket; it’s in Golf GTI territory (current list price of the 5 door Golf GTI PP with 7 speed DSG is £31,645). Granted, with the top of the range T-Roc you’re getting FWD, but at that price, there’s probably (and not unreasonably?) a customer expectation of an interior that’s on a par with a Golf in terms of tactile, soft touch materials and not hard, scratchy plastic.
FWD? Don't you mean 4WD or AWD?
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Actually the T-Roc is based on the Golf underpinnings (MQB-0). It’s the future T-Cross that will be based upon the Polo (MQB -A0), indeed top spec AWD models also get the multi link rear axle (whereas FWD models get torsion beam).
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The T-Roc might be based off the new Polo but the top spec T-Roc SEL FWD model with a 2 litre 190 ps engine and 7 speed DSG has a current list price of £31,485 before you add any options, so price-wise, it’s not in the Polo price bracket; it’s in Golf GTI territory (current list price of the 5 door Golf GTI PP with 7 speed DSG is £31,645). Granted, with the top of the range T-Roc you’re getting FWD, but at that price, there’s probably (and not unreasonably?) a customer expectation of an interior that’s on a par with a Golf in terms of tactile, soft touch materials and not hard, scratchy plastic.
FWD? Don't you mean 4WD or AWD?
Oops! Yes, apologies, I was thinking Four Wheel Drive, and brain was on auto pilot as it was late, so typed the first letter of each; FWD. :embarrassed:
I’m sure you get the point I was making though, whether it’s FWD, 4WD or AWD; scratchy plastics in a car with a list price that’s pretty much the same a Golf GTI from the same manufacturer?
Hopefully, not a sign of things to come with the mk8 Golf.
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I drove a brand new Polo 1 litre (95HP) manual and it went really well and was nice inside, leather steering wheel etc.
It reminded me of my old MK6 1.4 SE Golf the way it handled.
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The 2015 Jetta I've been running in the US is low rent.... dashboard is rock hard plastic! Be glad you don't get the US spec cars, they are poor compared to the Euro versions.
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Hi guys, need your help please (all the MK7.5 brigade).
A mate of mine is very close to purchasing a new MK7.5 GTI and asked me some questions over the weekend which I wasn't able to answer, but according to what I've seen in this thread, it looks like some of the question may have been answered, (but I'll ask again just in case). BTW, he's coming from an early 2013 GTI MK7 to a brand new MK7.5 GTI (not PP) and a factory order. Unfortunately his dealer hasn't been able to answer the questions and neither do they have a GTI in their showroom for him to look at.
1. It appears from this thread that the underseat storage drawers have been dropped completely from the MK7.5 program. Looking though the latest price list there's no mention of them in any of the model specs. I really like these on mine and use them for all sorts of small items (spare sunglasses for the misses, tyre tread gauge, tyre pressure gauge etc.) If that is the case, anyone know if these are retro fittable (don't think I would want to loose them either)?
2. He's been told that the very dark grey carbon-fiber(ish) dash and center console panels have now been replaced in the GTI with a high gloss black finish. Is that actually the case, and how does it look - is it the same for the door inert panel as well ? Is all the Red ambient lighting still there or have them removed that too ?
3. He's read (albeit on a US forum), that the nice flock (or velvet) finish inside the glovebox and also inside the door bins has been removed, leaving just a plain plastic finish - is that actually the case ?
4. Apart from the other cost saving measures already mentioned in other threads (battery cover gone, Isofix covers gone, glovebox lock gone, is there anything else that has been dropped since the original MK7 that he might notice ?
He's also asked me about the new Discover navigation pro (the 9.2" unit). Like me, he currently has the old Navigation Pro (8") in his car (albeit the original MIB I unit), and whilst the new Nav Pro is extremely expensive at £1300 he's asked if its worth it, and more importantly against the standard Nav (which I understand is now upgraded to an 8" Screen ?) Does anyone have experience of both of these MIB III units and can comment / give thoughts etc please ?
Finally, he's looking to spec the "Lane Assist with Dynamic Light Assist including Traffic Sign Recognition" He wants to know definitely if this give you dynamic road sign recognition (i.e does the screen mounted camera pick up road signs and display them dynamically on the Active info display, or is it just the built in Nav speed sign database shown on those units only. He's suspicious as when he ordered his car back in 2013, the VW brochure said the nav pro came with a screen mounted camera for road sign recognition, (which as we now now it didn't), and he doesn't' want to get stung a second time. Any comments please ?
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The underseat storage removal is a bit odd really...
It is on my July 2017 GTD and we haven't yet reached the next MY yet, so I wouldn't have thought that they would have done that.
NavPro, I had MIB1 Navpro on my 2014 GTD and now have MIB3 (well actually VW call it "Discover Pro (Generation 2 GP)"). The screen is nice and big - positively massive. The touch screen is actually modern and responsive. The gesture control is sh** and I've disabled it. The system is overall much faster and fluid. Its not without the usual Golf MIB niggles of course, the odd crash, the odd strange thing that won't go away without switching the car off for 10 minutes etc. I've not managed to update the maps since I've had it because they refuse to download intact. I use Android Auto for pretty much all nav functions and a lot of music etc. Having the bigger screen I think helps with this a lot, Waze is probably quite hard to see on a small screen.
Worth £1300? Hard to say... its the only option I've got (apart from paint) and I'm definitely of the opinion that another option wouldn't have been as much benefit to me (eg DCC or Lane Assist) but I am a mega mile muncher... If I just took it to town on a Saturday, I wouldn't bother with a nav unit!
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The underseat storage removal is a bit odd really...
It is on my July 2017 GTD and we haven't yet reached the next MY yet, so I wouldn't have thought that they would have done that.
Historically, VW have made spec changes twice a year; build week 22 when the next year’s model build commences and build week 45 when further ‘tweaks’ to the spec may be made.
Therefore, removal of the under seat storage may have been from build week 45/17 (along with the felt lining no longer being fitted to the glove box and door pockets, if owners of a cars built from bw 45/17 can confirm they don’t have this in their cars).
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BTW the lock on the glovebox was deleted on my July 2017 car...
The felt, I haven't looked - will look later.
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Thanks Fred
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I've had mine for about 3 weeks, It was from stock at port so I don't know exactly the build date but sometime in Jan I believe.
It doesn't have under seat storage, which annoyed me a bit but to be honest don't miss them, the sunglass holder in roof holds 2 sets of glasses.
The door bins are felt lined and so is the glove box, little cubby to right of steering wheel is not.
Piano black in centre consul, looks nice but have to carefully clean often. Carbon fibre bits still on dash above glove box and doors.
Ambient lighting on door sills, door cards and front footwell but not under seats for rear footwell.
No lock on glove box but do have isofix covers.
I didn't go for pro nav as I don't use it much and felt the money was better spent on the performance pack( diff, bigger brakes and 7spd DSG)
I would of liked the dynamic lights etc but was on a budget so had to limit options.
Lane assist- I think if you want that you shouldn't be driving!
At the end of the day you get what you want and can afford its your car.
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Just picked my GTi pp up
I can confirm no under seat draw
Glove box is still felt lined
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Picked my 7.5gti up last November and that has both under seat drawers. Very odd that they would remove them. I keep bird sh1t wipes in mine.
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Thanks to this thread I've discovered I have under-seat storage and a glasses holder in the roof, that I didn't know about - thanks!
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Just picked my GTi pp up
I can confirm no under seat draw
Glove box is still felt lined
Dont quote me but didnt they used to remove under seat storage when you spec dynaudio :undecided:,imo the overall build quality of the Golf GTI MK7 is pretty poor i`ve had far more problems with my MK7 than i did with the MK6.
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My year old facelift has dynaudio and under seat storage
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My year old facelift has dynoaudio and under seat storage
Maybe it was just the mk6 as they have put some of the equipment in the boot now.
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Yep, the amp is in the spare wheel well
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Just read on another VW Golf forum which has mainly USA/Canadian members, that the under bonnet insulation pad is not fitted to North American mk7.5 Golf GTI’s. The forum member whose car didn’t have this fitted thought it may have been left off in error by the factory, but 3 new showroom mk7.5 Golfs also didn’t have the bonnet insulation pad either.
Do UK mk7.5’s still get the bonnet insulation, or is this something else to add to the penny pinching list?
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Just read on another VW Golf forum which has mainly USA/Canadian members, that the under bonnet insulation pad is not fitted to North American mk7.5 Golf GTI’s. The forum member whose car didn’t have this fitted thought it may have been left off in error by the factory, but 3 new showroom mk7.5 Golfs also didn’t have the bonnet insulation pad either.
Do UK mk7.5’s still get the bonnet insulation, or is this something else to add to the penny pinching list?
My 7.5 has one but it's a 17 plate built last April so it could have changed since then. That's not much help :grin:
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Just read on another VW Golf forum which has mainly USA/Canadian members, that the under bonnet insulation pad is not fitted to North American mk7.5 Golf GTI’s. The forum member whose car didn’t have this fitted thought it may have been left off in error by the factory, but 3 new showroom mk7.5 Golfs also didn’t have the bonnet insulation pad either.
Do UK mk7.5’s still get the bonnet insulation, or is this something else to add to the penny pinching list?
I can confirm my 2 week old 7.5 GTI definitely has the insulation pad under the bonnet I have just been and checked :smiley:
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Yep, the amp is in the spare wheel well
Nope, the amp is under the passenger seat. All that's in the spare wheel well is the sub box within the spare wheel itself. I've still definitely got my amp under the seat though.