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Offline corgi

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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #10 on: 18 November 2013, 20:57 »
The dampers are different, as I understand it so not just a software configuration change...
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #11 on: 18 November 2013, 21:00 »
Quote from: KyleB on 18 November 2013, 20:30
Does anyone think the option of comfort would be able to be enabled via vcds? Surely the full suspension system won't be different on cads equipped with DCC?

Are you looking for everything to be in sport except the ACC/DCC dampers set to comfort? This is probably possible in "individual mode".
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #12 on: 19 November 2013, 08:39 »
Quote from: monkeyhanger on 18 November 2013, 21:00
Quote from: KyleB on 18 November 2013, 20:30
Does anyone think the option of comfort would be able to be enabled via vcds? Surely the full suspension system won't be different on cads equipped with DCC?

Are you looking for everything to be in sport except the ACC/DCC dampers set to comfort? This is probably possible in "individual mode".

I thought he was asking whether DCC could be enabled via VCDS...

You're answer assumes the car is fitted with DCC...
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #13 on: 19 November 2013, 08:59 »
Corgi: That is my assumption, because you can't have comfort without DCC. VCDS cannot enable hardware that isn't there (the DCC system, on a car that doesn't have it specced).
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #14 on: 19 November 2013, 09:14 »
Quote from: monkeyhanger on 19 November 2013, 08:59
VCDS cannot enable hardware that isn't there

Absolutely...
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #15 on: 19 November 2013, 09:52 »
Quote from: corgi on 19 November 2013, 09:14
Quote from: monkeyhanger on 19 November 2013, 08:59
VCDS cannot enable hardware that isn't there

Absolutely...

But sometimes it is amazing what is actually there that VW want to charge you extra for. On My Scirocco, XDS was a £280 option, but all the hardware was there, just needed activating in VCDS – I wonder what goodies are waiting undiscovered for the MK7 GTI/GTD.
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #16 on: 19 November 2013, 10:02 »
Understood, MH but as I understand it XDS is an electronic locking diff and therefore requires no hardware?

In that situation, VW really were charging a lot for very little...
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #17 on: 19 November 2013, 19:07 »
What is different about a car equipped with DCC and one without, apart from being able to select comfort. I can't accept they'll have a completely different suspension set up.
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #18 on: 19 November 2013, 19:14 »
The standard car has normal springs and dampers.

A DCC equipped car has dampers which have damper oil which when you apply a magnetic field to it (via electromagnets built into the struts/rear dampers) becomes thicker and increases the damping level of the suspension. Obviously with newer systems like the Mk7 Golf, this is variable and has multiple levels of damping.

The struts and rear dampers are completely different between standard/DCC equipped and it would be prohibitively expensive to retrofit the system.
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Re: Sport button as standard on GTD?
« Reply #19 on: 19 November 2013, 19:17 »
Quote from: Gnasher on 19 November 2013, 19:14
The standard car has normal springs and dampers.

A DCC equipped car has dampers which have damper oil which when you apply a magnetic field to it (via electromagnets built into the struts/rear dampers) becomes thicker and increases the damping level of the suspension. Obviously with newer systems like the Mk7 Golf, this is variable and has multiple levels of damping.

The struts and rear dampers are completely different between standard/DCC equipped and it would be prohibitively expensive to retrofit the system.

Has this been confirmed? Just can't understand how I can change my suspension from normal, eco and sport but not comfort.

Obviously would expect not to be able to if there's a different suspension set up. But could imagine if cars have different set ups it'll be hard for a dealership to service?
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