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General => General discussion => Topic started by: scarr89 on 08 May 2012, 11:28
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/17987600
Who thinks this will turn into a brawl rather than a boxing match...
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I doubt it will even go ahead to be honest, BBBOC will get it stopped. Hopefully not though! :grin:
If it does go ahead i'm banging £10 on Haye :cool:
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Haye will knock him out, even without the glass :lipsrsealed:
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Chisora is such a tool, I also doubt it will go ahead, but my money would be on Haye
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£50 pounds tickets still available guys :smiley:
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im going against the grain here and putting all my boxing knowledge on the line... .chisora
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Haye all the way....
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It wont happen, just a stupid publicity stunt for Chisora to earn a few quid more from doing interviews as his career is now over. :rolleyes:
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Chisora to win for me, i really do not like haye smug c**t
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Chisora is a nobody, has no real achievements within boxing at all.. He lost to Fury, who lets face it is hardly going to be the next Frank Bruno..
At least Haye has actually won something..Haye is the former WBA heavyweight champion. He is also the former unified world cruiserweight champion, holding the WBA, WBC, WBO, and The Ring cruiserweight titles, and the former European cruiserweight champion.
Chisora - 15 - 3
Haye 25 - 2
If Haye ever wants to fight the Klitschkos again he better not take this fight. He is the only real hope for britain in that weight division still. Give David Price some more experience and we will see about him.
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(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01456/Haye_Bottle_682x40_1456042a.jpg)
Nuff said.
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^ Great pic, makes me laugh every time I see it! :laugh:
Haye would win.
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Two both very very average boxers and imo the fight should not be allowed to go ahead.
Chisora is banned and Haye would also be if he went for his licence again , Warren should be ashamed of himself. As for The Sun calling it "The biggest British Boxing match ever" is just laughable.
Maybe they missed the Benn/Eubank fights. Now that was a real rivalry.
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Two both very very average boxers and imo the fight should not be allowed to go ahead.
David Haye an average boxer? :grin:
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Two both very very average boxers and imo the fight should not be allowed to go ahead.
David Haye an average boxer? :grin:
He is yes, the only boxer he beat during his crusierweight days of any worth was Mormeck. Enzo was and is still a sh!t boxer, so no great deal in beating him. Fair play in stepping up to heavyweight but he was found out big time when he faced Klitschko
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Two both very very average boxers and imo the fight should not be allowed to go ahead.
David Haye an average boxer? :grin:
He is yes, the only boxer he beat during his crusierweight days of any worth was Mormeck. Enzo was and is still a sh!t boxer, so no great deal in beating him. Fair play in stepping up to heavyweight but he was found out big time when he faced Klitschko
Haye won all the cruiserweight titles then won a heavyweight title.
Fair enough he came short in his last fight, but he is world class.
As for Enzo Maccanelli, Haye finished him.
Your version of average is an odd one.
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Two both very very average boxers and imo the fight should not be allowed to go ahead.
David Haye an average boxer? :grin:
He is yes, the only boxer he beat during his crusierweight days of any worth was Mormeck. Enzo was and is still a sh!t boxer, so no great deal in beating him. Fair play in stepping up to heavyweight but he was found out big time when he faced Klitschko
Haye won all the cruiserweight titles then won a heavyweight title.
Fair enough he came short in his last fight, but he is world class.
As for Enzo Maccanelli, Haye finished him.
Your version of average is an odd one.
As is your version of a world class boxer. Came short? The bloke did nothing all fight, then had such a sh!t excuse afterwards.
No point in us arguing about it, as both think different of him, but I honestly see nothing that great about him. I would have a lot more respect for him if he did not waste nearly a year of his boxing career having to fight Chisora and Harrison.
As it takes about what 4/5 months in between fights? So why waste two fights on such sh!t fighters? Pointless and come 10 years time all Haye will be remember for is losing a fight because of a little toe and a brawl in Munich..World Class.
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Two both very very average boxers and imo the fight should not be allowed to go ahead.
David Haye an average boxer? :grin:
He is yes, the only boxer he beat during his crusierweight days of any worth was Mormeck. Enzo was and is still a sh!t boxer, so no great deal in beating him. Fair play in stepping up to heavyweight but he was found out big time when he faced Klitschko
Haye won all the cruiserweight titles then won a heavyweight title.
Fair enough he came short in his last fight, but he is world class.
As for Enzo Maccanelli, Haye finished him.
Your version of average is an odd one.
As is your version of a world class boxer. Came short? The bloke did nothing all fight, then had such a sh!t excuse afterwards.
No point in us arguing about it, as both think different of him, but I honestly see nothing that great about him. I would have a lot more respect for him if he did not waste nearly a year of his boxing career having to fight Chisora and Harrison.
As it takes about what 4/5 months in between fights? So why waste two fights on such sh!t fighters? Pointless and come 10 years time all Haye will be remember for is losing a fight because of a little toe and a brawl in Munich..World Class.
Four major world titles at two different weights.
Whether you like him or not, he is world class :grin:
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See , I do like him though mate and wanted him to win so badly against Klitschko , as they must be within a couple of fights from retiring now and Haye has all the tools to be a great heavyweight, but his mouth seems to be a lot better than his boxing at that level.
Look, OK, maybe I am being harsh on calling average, just think he could and should be a lot better than he is..surely you agree him fighting Harrison and now Chisora is just a complete waste of time? Yes it is money in the bank, but there is better fights out there
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See , I do like him though mate and wanted him to win so badly against Klitschko , as they must be within a couple of fights from retiring now and Haye has all the tools to be a great heavyweight, but his mouth seems to be a lot better than his boxing at that level.
Look, OK, maybe I am being harsh on calling average, just think he could and should be a lot better than he is..surely you agree him fighting Harrison and now Chisora is just a complete waste of time? Yes it is money in the bank, but there is better fights out there
I agree he did make a fool of himself against wladimir klitschko, he should of kept quiet. Although to be fair, both Klitschko brothers are massively underrated, they are both monsters. He did go 12 rounds with him, which alot of fighters haven't managed. The problem was all the 'promises' Haye made before the fight.
The Harrison fight was a joke, i don't know why that even happened. But look at this way, at least Haye got rid of him hopefully permanently.
I think the Chisora fight is actually exciting, it's a real grudge match.
I think maybe Haye should of retired at cruiserweight, he was the best out there at that weight, he's not quite a heavyweight.
Haye's fights are usually spectacular, excluding the last two fights. He is a very, very good fighter, maybe just not a heavyweight...
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See , I do like him though mate and wanted him to win so badly against Klitschko , as they must be within a couple of fights from retiring now and Haye has all the tools to be a great heavyweight, but his mouth seems to be a lot better than his boxing at that level.
Look, OK, maybe I am being harsh on calling average, just think he could and should be a lot better than he is..surely you agree him fighting Harrison and now Chisora is just a complete waste of time? Yes it is money in the bank, but there is better fights out there
I agree he did make a fool of himself against wladimir klitschko, he should of kept quiet. Although to be fair, both Klitschko brothers are massively underrated, they are both monsters. He did go 12 rounds with him, which alot of fighters haven't managed. The problem was all the 'promises' Haye made before the fight.
The Harrison fight was a joke, i don't know why that even happened. But look at this way, at least Haye got rid of him hopefully permanently.
I think the Chisora fight is actually exciting, it's a real grudge match.
I think maybe Haye should of retired at cruiserweight, he was the best out there at that weight, he's not quite a heavyweight.
Haye's fights are usually spectacular, excluding the last two fights. He is a very, very good fighter, maybe just not a heavyweight...
I go with you completely on the Klitschko's, they can only beat what is put in front of them and they have dominated for years now. Fair play to both of them as outside the ring, they are both really good people too, who do a lot of charity work as well.
Will be a grudge match this, but can only ever see Haye winning it and winning it when he wants, could do it in one round if he went for it, is why I wish he would go back to cruiserweight, dominate again or just retire. Or , train hard and go again with the other Klitschko, different game plan this time, go toe to toe with him, like Chisora did, both Klitschko's hate boxing on the back foot.
As for up and coming heavyweights, their is a Cuban boxer called Mike Perez, only 26 but looks immense.
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I think the chisora v haye fight could go 12 rounds, chisora surprised a lot of people going 12 rounds with Vitali Klitschko comfortably.
I don't think Haye will get another go against either Klitschko, that's more down to politics and money than anything else. Also Haye even after his last performance, is still dangerous.
Heavyweights to watch out for? David Price, he is already smashing people in like Lennox Lewis used to :smiley:
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Price is someone to keep an eye on - he's big, mobile and carries a good dig on him. It's no surprise a joke like Tyson Fury gave up his titles to fight a 40-yr old taxi driver rather than face him. His is a career I will be watching with interest.
Haye does have some pedigree. You don't unify titles at a weight without some degree of talent. He went to France to dethrone Mormeck, and didn't have to fight Maccarinelli. At the time it was seen as a dangerous fight as both fighters could bang a bit, and Haye was known to be having difficulty making the weight. He fought the right fight against the man mountain that is Valuev to win a portion of the Heavyweight title, and putting John Ruiz on his backside in the first 25 seconds of a fight is something only the brutal power of David Tua has managed to do. I believe he bit off more than he could chew against Wladimir, who despite some KO losses earlier in his career has been moulded into a masterful boxer by Emanuel Steward, who also trained Lennox Lewis. So many people have said they'll do this, that or the other to Wlad and have come nowhere near to it, usually being worn down and KO'd. I don't see this changing much for now.
Also don't forget that Chisora, for all his stupid behaviour and threats, was very unlucky to be on the receiving end of a ridiculous decision against Robert Helenius, a fighter of similar size to Wlad. This got him his WBC shot, which was then where it all went wrong.
I think they're both doughnuts but that said, I think Haye will make Chisora look stupid if the fight goes ahead and may even succeed were Vitali failed in putting him on the canvas.
I can't see anyone remotely troubling Wlad in the next couple of years, but Vitali has slowed noticeably, and I can't see him fighting more than twice more.
Fighters to watch in the heavyweight division are the up & coming Deontay Wilder from America, Cuban exile Mike Perez, Price, Dennis Boytsov and as outside chances, Alexander Dimitrenko & Alexander Povetkin (neither of whom are setting the world alight much). Then of course there's Tyson Fury and the third (or is it fourth now?) coming of Audley Harrison - it's his destiny! :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Audley Harrison? please :grin:
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Havn't these last two pages been about what i have said in the 1st one? :grin:
Will need to check out these up an coming Heavyweights as i prefer lightwelter weight and welterweight.
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Heavyweights just burn themselves out in the first couple of rounds. Unless there is a nice combo leading to a knockout the fight just goes nowhere until a lucky punch gets landed :rolleyes: