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Title: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: jv on 08 February 2006, 13:31
here you go :)
Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:23
Well at long last I'm hoping to bring you a bit of the story of my efforts at restoring my 1990 Mk2 Gti 16V.

I bought the car in March 2005 and having found it to be structurally sound, felt it would be an excellent car to restore to it's former glory :) 

Finished in reasonably rare Royal Blue metallic (LOA5U02), virtually standard and with the seldom ever seen headlight washer jets fitted as standard (with 8 litre wash bottle!) was another deciding factor that this was a worthy project.

The paintwork had seen better days with some DIY looking repairs and the usual rust around the plinth on the tailgate.  There was also a large patch under the n/s door mirror but thankfully the arches were totally sound as was the sunroof channel.

Let the work begin!

Some pics not long after I bought the car:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/a2484995.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/e89786ed.jpg)

 

 

 





Rust under mirror:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/1d34d675.jpg)

Rust on tailgate plinth:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/37160c2f.jpg)

Rust starting around wiper blank:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/124658bc.jpg)
Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:28
Some other problems I noted with the car were that the sunroof seal was completely perished making it almost impossible to slide back.  This was fortunate as it meant the sunroof had not been used in a long time and therefore no water had managed to get into the channel or mechanism.  Any rust forming here can make the project pretty unfeasible due to the work required to try and cure the problem. 

On removing the seal and roof the deflector and arms were totally shot and a new set were obtained (I toyed with chrome but stuck with black for now) :)  I got a new seal from GPC and all this was to be refitted after the new paint.

Pic showing the new parts fitted up:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01806.jpg)

Next up was the removing the BBS RA's for refurbishing.  Considering they were 15 years old they weren't looking too bad but had the usual kerbing and peeling lacquer.  My plan for these was to have them stripped, powder coated the pianted and re-lacquered.  In the meantime I fitted some 14" Montreal alloys (now for sale with brand new tyres!) for the car to roll on:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01458.jpg)

The car went to the bodyshop who set about stripping the shell of all the trim, bumpers, doors, bonnet and tailgate.

 

Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:30
When the tailgate and doors were removed it also appeared the wiring had been fairly hacked-up over the years with various alarms and stereo equipment being fitted by less than professionals!

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01457.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01456.jpg)


Any non-standard wiring was removed and the whole thing re-insulated where necessary.  The loom was tidied up and new speaker wire run throughout for decent speakers to be fitted in the factory positions later.

I also got hold of an almost mint tailgate to replace the original:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01412.jpg)

As you can see, there is a small crease/dent in the top edge but this was easily sorted and there was no rust at all which was key.  The paint was dark grey but obviously this would be stripped and sprayed anyway.  I was pleased to see it came with a working rear wiper motor and a linkage which was properly set....saved me at least 1 extra job!



Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:33
A common rust trap on Mk2 Gti's is on the arches under the plastic trim.  The rear arches were very nice indeed with only 15 years worth of dust and dirt on them:


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01387.jpg)
 
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01386.jpg)


Sadly the fronts had not fared so well and had rust starting on the lip under the plastic trim.  The arches were stripped off


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01383.jpg)
 

 

and new OE parts obtained from VW and fitted:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01455.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01384.jpg)

I know there are some good pattern parts available but I bought one to try and it was a terrible fit.  On something as obvious as the front arches I wanted a perfect fit and finish and the genuine parts are a safe bet as you can see (don't ever pay full price if possible....and if you are buying 2 then a discount can be haggled!)


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:36
Whilst the bodywork was being attended to I set about having a go at polishing up the inlet manifold.  This is before:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01253.jpg)

This is as I'm about to start work with a brass flap wheel, brush and much time with some steel wool cloth (much better than normal steel wool as you can pull it easily between hard to reach crevices etc:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01812.jpg)

I will get some pics of the finished result posted up soon!

For anyone thinking of tackling this I would only say it is one of the most laborious jobs you can imagine!  It's easy to get a decent looking finish after 15-20 minutes with the brush on the drill but all you are seeing is the grease and muck removed.  To start getting some kind of polished finish takes hour after hour of work and the shape and curvature of the inlet and manifold make it SO hard to get a consistent finish....gives me cold sweats just thinking about it again!


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:40
Bodywork progressed slowly on the car.  It was masked and taped up and primer applied. 

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01463.jpg)

 

Gradually it was flattened and minor fills made where necessary and the process repeated until a perfect surface was achieved:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01465.jpg)

Obviously all the glass was removed and this was cleaned seperately. Where possible waxoil was sprayed into cavities and on the back of panels but it is testament to the factory that the car was seriously dosed in rust-proofing which was still working very well.  As has been reported elsewhere, on a hot day you can often see the run marks on the rear panel of a MK2 where the hot rust-proofing runs down the panel seams!

Some more close-ups:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01467.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01464.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01466.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01469.jpg)


In the pic above you can see the wiper/scuttle panel.  I considered filling the wiper blank holes to stop any future rusting, but to keep things original I decided to keep the holes and fill them with the factory grommets.  Again, these areas were totally rustproofed before painting.

Another weak point that is sometimes overlooked when considering a Mk2 is the area around the fuel filler neck/flap.  Although not prone to the same rusting as Mk1's it is still worth checking.  Luckily my car was sound here and no work required:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01468.jpg)


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:43
One of many parts that caused me some problems were on the inner sills.  On the '90 spec cars the side skirts mount onto the sills and the upper edge runs under the lower lip of the door, resting on the kick plate area.  Now, from the factory a piece of textured vinyl was applied to the sill here to protect the paintwork from the plastic side skirt rubbing on it.  It is mabe easier to show on these pics:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01471.jpg)

The vinyl fits on the narrow edge on the outer part of the sill:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/gtisillfoils.jpg)

As with all things that seem simple, obtaining these was not!  The vinyl strips are obsolete from VW and nobody does a replacement.  When I made some enquiries I was told most people just leave these off as they aren't really important.

I could see that it wouldn't make a huge difference whether I had these fitted or not but being a bit stubborn and a perfectionist I wanted to try and come up with something.

In the end I managed to get some trim tape which was meant for early Gti's and Jettas and fitted on the swage line I think (you can see them rolled up in the pic below).  With a bit of fiddling and cutting to size these were going to do the job!

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01415.jpg)

I'll get some pics posted later showing these fitted to the car for anyone that's as sad as me and is interested!

I had similar problems with the rear black decal for the tailgate....I'll come on to how I solved this one later....


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:46
Gradually the shell progressed towards painting which was to be done with 2 final coats of primer and 3 top coats of paint with 2 coats of clear lacquer:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSCF0002.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSCF0001.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSCF0004.jpg)



The doors were next to be prepped and due to the passenger door having been left to corrode so badly I decided to replace it with a good donor door:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01802.jpg)

The drivers side door was in very good condition and just needed rubbed down and prepared to the standard of the 'new' door.

Inside the door frames were a lot of electronic gubbins wired into the central locking.  This had obviously been part of some alarm system that was now defunct so I took the lot out and binned it.  Made the door a few pounds lighter in the process!

Once painted I also renewed the plastic membrane that sticks to the door frame.  Again these are not available from VW but you can easily make some up with heavy duty plastic or even builders rubble bags, cleaned and cut to fit.  I opted for a transparent heavy plastic just so I could see any components without having to remove it should I need to at some point. 

My car is fitted with electric door mirrors and the mounting for the control switch was loose and required a bit of fabrication on the back of the door card.  I'm still not 100% happy that it is totally secure but I'll re-look at this and post some pics later on.  I also ran the new speaker wire through the plastic membrane before re-fitting the door cards.


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:48
While all this work was progressing I got the BBS back from the metal refinishers.  They stripped the wheel, bead balsted and then powder coated the alloy.  When returned the wheels looked like this:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01252.jpg)

The finish was very good but the powder coating does leave a slight 'orange peel' effect.  Also, as you can see the standard colour is very dark grey.

After some asking around I decided a good colour to paint the wheels would be in Diamond Silver Metallic from the VW palette (LO97A02).

I thought this would give the wheels a little sparkle without being too bling, and also close to the original finish.  After a lot of work and 2 coats of lacquer the finished article ready to go for tyre fitting:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01920.jpg)

I'm pretty chuffed with them and hopefully even if the outer paint deteriorates over time, the powder coating will keep the wheel intact so they can just be repainted.

To finish off the wheels I had to get hold of some original BBS centre caps.  I was lucky to get hold of a set and you can see them here next to the original set which were all flaking and peeling:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01409.jpg)


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:51
At long last the paintwork started to take shape:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01821.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01820.jpg)



Really happy with the finish on the paintwork and looking forward to getting the car fitted back up:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01631.jpg)

I got hold of a new set of Hella headlights, inner lights and front fogs as the original ones were in various states of corrosion or had small cracks in the lens.  Amazing what a difference new lights make to the look of the car :)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01816.jpg)

Looking better with the windscreen back in too!  Ready for the bonnet....

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01815.jpg)

With the car almost complete I was looking forward to the final reassembly and getting it back on the road!


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:54
In late December the car was basically finished and ready to leave the bodyshop for the first time in nearly 7 months:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01819.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01818.jpg)

As stated before I still had the original BBS RA's to refit.

Also, the twin DTM pipes were never to my taste and a standard system is ready to go on:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01919.jpg)

In time I might go for a full stainless system (I'm thinking Jetex....any opinions?) but for now I will be happy to have the standard exhaust.

The rear and middle sections were an eBay bargain at £20....only months old!

Underneath the car looking pretty good I think:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01921.jpg)

Another little gem I picked up online which will hopefully look the part in my garage with the car:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01926.jpg)

Next up, the rear tailgate decal!


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 17:57
As many will know, the black vinyl trim strip around the back window on Mk2 Gti's is impossible to find anymore.  If you are restoring the car or even repairing the tailgate and need it painted it is kind of annoying to not be able to replace this.

I'm sure opinions will be divided on whether the thing actually looks good on the car or if there's any need to have it.  Personally I like it because it is another of the little unique Gti features...although on dark paintwork like mine it hardly shows up!

Anyway, the whole time the car was off the road I tried a few options for replacing this trim.  I bought a set from an eBay seller which was in 3 pieces but to be honest I wasn't happy with the fit or finish and discarded it.

Next up I spoke to Ian at WagenWheels (www.wagenwheels.co.uk) who is an expert in restoring Golfs.  He shared my problem but said he might be able to supply a  replacement.  After weeks of trying however we drew a blank and I kind of abandoned the idea.

Being a keen VW enthusiast I am always on the lookout for interesting things and while on holiday in the US stopped in at a local dealership who had the new Jetta on display. As it wasn't launched here yet I called in for a browse.

While there I got talking to the parts fella and told him about my Mk2 project.  He was really interested and when I mentioned my problem about the rear trim for the tailgate I was amazed when he said he had one in stock somewhere!!!  Arrangement was made to get it and I was chuffed to bits!

In my excitement however I didnt even check and when I finally got it all unwrapped I was a little disappointed to find that it was supplied in 3 pieces rather than 1 big piece:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01396.jpg)

It was all stamped up with the correct VW part numbers so I knew it was genuine.

A call to VW revealed that the last supply of these items was manufactured in 3 pieces to aid fitment as so many bodyshops were messing them up trying to fit them.

Again, applying it in 3 pieces seemed easier but I was concerned how it would look and that the joins/overlap at the corners would eventually lift and peel.

Not to be defeated I fitted the trim up and marked where the overlap and joins were.  I then marked this out and went to a graphics specialist.  They were able to scan the pattern and even supply the exact same 3M black vinyl (3M ScotchCal) to laser cut a 1-piece item from! Delighted! :)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01838.jpg)

I have yet to apply this to the car as the rear window will need to come out again.  As soon as it's done I will get some pics up for you all.  There have already been a lot of people asking me if I can get more made; I'm looking into this and maybe get some kind of bulk order price for the mutual benefit of everyone.  If you'd be interested drop me a PM and I'll collate some numbers :)


Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 08 February 2006, 18:01
The first day I collected the car (still on Montreals):

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC00009.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC00008.jpg)


The only non standard feature was that I had the mirror housing colour coded to the paintwork.  The black plastic never looked good to my eye and I think it's a nice little touch :)

With the BBS's refitted this is how things look just now:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/2ea2ec59.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01936.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/c4b6be8f.jpg)


Jobs still to do:

- Fit standard exhaust

- Replace shocks and springs with OE (rear sagging a little)

- Fit rear tailgate decal

- Full interior valet and blacken-up the bumpers again!

Pics of the finished article along with the interior will be up soon I hope :)

The car is having a full engine rebuild and new discs/pads/calipers as we speak.  There were no mechanical issues as such but as a precaution I felt this would do no harm and would at least keep the car in rude health for many years to come!  No point in having a ming looking car that runs like a dog, right?

So, I hope you've enjoyed the pics and the story of the project so far.  I'll keep posting updated pics when I can and I appreciate any comments or ideas you all have.  Without a doubt the forum and members here have been a huge help with all kinds of matters and I look forward to getting the car out and about to a couple of shows/meets this summer!  :)

Thanks,

Duncan

Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 09 February 2006, 18:20
One of my fave pics of the car (sorry about the dirty rear end!):

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01938.jpg)

Perhaps a good pic for a signature...if someone could oblige?   :wink:
Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 09 February 2006, 18:27
Here are some before and after pics of my manifold and inlet:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/1732c92b.jpg)

Straight from the engine:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01253.jpg)

About to start work:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01812.jpg)

The finished result!!  :smiley:

Top side:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01941.jpg)

Underside:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01942.jpg)

Manifold top:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01943.jpg)

Manifold bottom:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01944.jpg)

Fitted-up:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01945.jpg)


Well pleased with the final result but this was a HUGE task in itself.....took hour upon hour of work and was very laborious.  I used to think the sets that were for sale all polished were a bit pricey but knowing the amount of work this takes then I can see where the money goes!

Hope you like it anyway  :smiley:

Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 10 February 2006, 17:38
Boge Turbo Gas Dampers and Eibach ProKit springs ready to go on anytime soon!:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01940.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01939.jpg)


Hopefully this will tighten the handling up nicely and give the car a nice stance.....it's all OE, of course  :smiley:
Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 21 March 2006, 22:27
With some better weather I have given the car the full Meguiars treatment (including the plastic trim at last!!) and got some more pics to show.  The new suspension is on as is the standard exhaust which I'm a lot happier with  :smiley:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01990.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01991.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01992.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01994.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01995.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01989.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC01997.jpg)

As you can see, I've still not got the rear decal on the tailgate but this has been down to not being able to get the car indoors for long enough to get the rear window out etc.  I'm hoping to have it sorted by the end of the month and also have news on getting the extra decals made for everyone that expressed an interest  :smiley:

Hope you like the pics!
Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 09 April 2006, 16:37
At long last some pics of the rear tailgate decal fitted:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02079.jpg)


(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02063.jpg)

Delighted with the result and the quality....looks totally OE and just what I wanted!   :smiley:
Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 24 April 2006, 18:23
Some long overdue interior pics:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02082.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02086.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02090.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02087.jpg)
Title: Re: dscam - mk2 16v Royal Blue Resto
Post by: dscam on 24 April 2006, 18:40
The engine bay after a bit of a tidy and clean....and new matt black inlet and polished rocker  :wink: :

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02091.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02092.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02093.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/dscam/DSC02095.jpg)

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