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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 how to guides + info => Topic started by: T_J_G on 11 August 2008, 11:49
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If you have found water in your passengers side footwell then chances are water is getting into your pollen filter. The water comes from behind the dash on the drivers side of the passenger footwell. Or if you have water in your rear passenger footwell scroll to near the bottom.
I would act quickly if this is the case because you don't want your central convenience module getting wet as it can lead to a whole host of problems that I've now got.
Symptons
Water in the passenger footwell, car steaming up easily.
So what's the problem?
Water is entering your car from the pollen filter which is situated near the windscreen on the passenger side.
How can it be fixed?
Firstly it's an easy fix and shouldn't cost more than £20. There is no need to remove the wipers.
Open the bonnet and to the right of the back scuttle pannel there are 4 screws ina row. Undo these a remove the tray covering the pollen filter. Check to see what kind of condition it is in. Then remove the pollen filter by pushing the two clips in on the plastic it sits in and slide forward. You can then see or feel if the pollen filter is wet. If it is replace tray and pollen filter with parts from VW.
Broken cover:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/T_J_G/Photo0078.jpg)
Where the water goes after going through the pollen filter:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/T_J_G/Photo0080.jpg)
and the wet pollen filter
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/T_J_G/Photo0077.jpg)
I'll update with part numbers but the tray is £5 and the pollen filter is £15.
When replaced refit by reversing the above instructions and let the car run for a while with heating on. So take it for a spin with the heating on.
Is your REAR passenger side carpet wet
If this is the case, open the FRONT doors and by the hinges there is a black nipple. This becomes blocked and therefore renders them useless and they end up storing water. By giving them a squeeze you should get all the cr** out and you should have cured the leak. Do to both sides and then dry out the footwells... :sick:
This is what happened to me;
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=88116.0
If you have any problems PM me and i should be able to help!
If this hasn't solved your problem and you have a 5 door car or a sunroof try bleeding the nipples near the door hinge. Haven't got any pictures as mine is 3 door.
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Good work Tim :afro:
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Good work Tim :afro:
No problems, wanted to give a little bit back after the help i've had off here!
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If this hasn't solved your problem and you have a 5 door car or a sunroof try bleeding the nipples near the door hinge.
I think my pollen filter must be damp or in the process of getting wet because the car steams up quite a lot after rain. I will have a look tonight. If it isn't the pollen filter, I will have a fiddle with the nipples :rolleyes:
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If this hasn't solved your problem and you have a 5 door car or a sunroof try bleeding the nipples near the door hinge.
I think my pollen filter must be damp or in the process of getting wet because the car steams up quite a lot after rain. I will have a look tonight. If it isn't the pollen filter, I will have a fiddle with the nipples :rolleyes:
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I would fiddle with the nipples anyway :tongue: I can't remember whether that faults is for cars with sunroof only (i think) or 5 doors. Mine being a 3 door non sunroof model doesn't have nipples.
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I think theres two other nipples at the back maybe behind the bumper for the sunroof drains, as well as the two at the front :huh:
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I think theres two other nipples at the back maybe behind the bumper for the sunroof drains, as well as the two at the front :huh:
I think there is, lots of info if you use google, didn't really want to go into that problem just focusing on the one I know.
The drainage without nipples comes out near the wheel arch and can be seen if you poor water down windscreen on passenger side. Make sure the cover is ok first though!
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Good thread bud! :afro:
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Daft question but what do the nipples do? I'm guessing they drain water somehow..?
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Daft question but what do the nipples do? I'm guessing they drain water somehow..?
You have to squeeze them to let the water out. i think they become stuck or blocked.
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If it's just a case of squeezing the nipples to get rid of any water / gunk, then I think that should be my starting point. If that doesn't work, I'll check the pollen filter.
I noticed today on the way into work that both the rear windows were steaming up, but not the front ones :huh:
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If it's just a case of squeezing the nipples to get rid of any water / gunk, then I think that should be my starting point. If that doesn't work, I'll check the pollen filter.
I noticed today on the way into work that both the rear windows were steaming up, but not the front ones :huh:
Have you got a sunroof?
To be honest I'd check both options don't take 5 minutes to get the pollen filter out.
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Have you got a sunroof?
No mate, I haven't got a sunroof. I will check both, but I'm inclined to think that if there's a sh*t load of water/crap that comes out of the nipples when sqeezed, this will probably cure the problem (I hope!).
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Have you got a sunroof?
No mate, I haven't got a sunroof. I will check both, but I'm inclined to think that if there's a sh*t load of water/crap that comes out of the nipples when sqeezed, this will probably cure the problem (I hope!).
But it's worth checking both seriously 4 screws to undo and 5 minutes of your time. you won't even need to remove the pollen filter to check if it's wet.
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you won't even need to remove the pollen filter to check if it's wet.
That's true! I'd never thought of that :laugh:
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you won't even need to remove the pollen filter to check if it's wet.
That's true! I'd never thought of that :laugh:
there is plenty of stuff on uk-mkiv about water leaks so if these two suggestions don't solve do a search over there.
Let me know how you get on.
Tim
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updated for what seems to be Bob's problem
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Can we get osme pictures of these nipples? I need to know where to look to solve the leak in my car.
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Can we get osme pictures of these nipples? I need to know where to look to solve the leak in my car.
Now you've solved your problem can you take a good photo of these nipple so I can put it in this thread please mate
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I've noticed a bit of water in the rear passenger footwell, but I can't find these nipsters. Could anyone post a pic or describe exactly where they are? I've followed the description on here, but can't make it out. Cheers.
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I've noticed a bit of water in the rear passenger footwell, but I can't find these nipsters. Could anyone post a pic or describe exactly where they are? I've followed the description on here, but can't make it out. Cheers.
Do you have a sunroof? I think it's for sunroof cars only...open the front doors and look above the door hinge and they'll either be some nipples or a round black circle blanking plate 2-3cm round.
If not check the pollen filter (though I doubt it's that) and check your rear pillars see if the rear washer feed is leaking.
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No sunroof, but I'll check the pillars and see what's occuring. It's a 5 door if that helps.
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No sunroof, but I'll check the pillars and see what's occuring. It's a 5 door if that helps.
I don't think you'll have the nipples so points to rear washer feed leaking or pollen filter (doubt it is this one). Or possibly the drainage behind the rear bumper is jammed shut.
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This rear bumper drainage, where exactly on the bumper should I be looking?
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This rear bumper drainage, where exactly on the bumper should I be looking?
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/51109/392618.aspx#392618 :wink:
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Thanks. Had a read, they all seem to have water in their spare tyre bay, rather than the floor though.
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im having the same problem but its damp not socking so i think its only just starting but i only get it in the back foot wells n i cant find this nipple ur ona bout on the door is there n e chance u could post a photo or send me a photo of where it is located cause i really dont want it to get bad thank youu
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You only have the nipples if it's got a sun roof I think. I'd check the drainage behing the rear bumper as per the link above.
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okies then ill look after work then
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another guide for replacing the polen filter, goes more in depth
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=968305
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Great thread Tim, especially seeing as my passenger footwell keeps flooding.
I have a 5 door with no sunroof, I have checked my pollen filter and its cover on several occasions especially after plenty of rain and it always seems bone dry, I even put my hand down the vent hole under the filter and the foam at the bottom of the vent is always bone dry.
This weekend I vacuumed the water out and left the door open with the sun doing a great job and dried it out (again!) On Saturday night we had a good 3-4 hours of heavy rain and I expected to find all my good work undone on Sunday morning but I was pleasantly surprised to discover it was still bone dry. I tempted fate later and gave it a good wash using plenty of hot soapy water and a pressure washer and it still remained dry.
So, I can only assume that my water only comes in when the car is on the move. I do quite a lot of motorway miles and often in rain so I am guessing it must be during this driving I am filling the car up.
Any ideas????
Thanks in advance
Ian
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Great thread Tim, especially seeing as my passenger footwell keeps flooding.
Thanks :smiley:
To be honest I'm unsure of what's causing your leak. Have you taken off the scuttle panel (bit below the wipers) and had a good prod around in there? Where exactly in the footwell is it wet? Near a certain side or front or back, or just all over?
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To be honest I'm unsure of what's causing your leak. Have you taken off the scuttle panel (bit below the wipers) and had a good prod around in there? Where exactly in the footwell is it wet? Near a certain side or front or back, or just all over?
Hi Tim
I have taken off the scuttle panel and had a nose in there, all seem fine. The area which is wet is the actual flat area in the passenger footwell, I have had a good feel all around the carpet on sill area, around the tunnel and followed the carpet all the way up under the dash and it always seems dry when the flat area is soaking. Is there any chassis bunks that you know of under the footwell? If so maybe one of mine might have gone awol.
It's really frustrating me now, just get it all dried out and its soaking again. Not looking forward to winter and all the wet weather :undecided:
Cheers
Ian
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This may be of some use to someone also :
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/51109/392618.aspx#392618 :smiley:
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I've just had another read of this thread as I've had a job lot of water in my car. I know years back I reported some, but it didn't really seem to occur again. I've had the carpets and underlay out which were soaking, so been driving it around with nothing in it and noticed some water build up around the bungs in the floor when I got back. What are they for? Do they need replacing? I'll check the pollen filter this weekend, but it's completely dry above the bungs and under the dash.
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Hi cracking thread, just a quick tease of the grey matter, my rear passenger well is wet but no where else, its a 3 door with sunroof and i had a new screen fitted a few weeks ago, anything in particular to try or just go through everything? I had a play with the nipples earlier nothing came out of the passenger side but i got a bit out of the drivers side
any pointers would be great
cheers dave
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I had a play with the nipples earlier nothing came out of the passenger side but i got a bit out of the drivers side
I'm so sorry, I just simply can not resist, but that sounds just like breast feeding, if nothing from one nipple, try the other :grin:
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:whistle: dont know what you mean sir, gotta sort something out tho i dont know where to start and this weathers doing my nut in and i dont want the kermit to start rusting away
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anyone????? ive checked from the sunroof on the front two holes, i was told there should be two at the back but cant find them, it is litterlly just wet in the rear passenger footwell no where else, someone mentioned missing bungs underneath??? its really bugging me now as i had a renault scenic before and that was fogging up all the time and now the golf is starting to a little
please help
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i think i may have sorted it now ill find out in the next few weeks