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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: Si_Telford on 14 April 2021, 12:50
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Just interesting to see what each persons favourite driving most is or most used from the choices of Eco, Comfort, Sport or individual.
I currently have mine set and enjoy the below set in individual.
Chassis - Sport
Steering - Comfort
Drive - Sport
Engine sound - Eco (Hear the real engine more)
ACC - Sport
Light Assist - Sport
Air con - Eco
Also like to change to ESC Sport 😎
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Usually individual.
DCC set to the middle, engine noise set to Eco (to kill fake noise) and the rest set to comfort.
Unless I fancy some corner chopping action and just drop it into sport mode and hang off the VAQ like Rossi going round a corner :cool:
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I picked something up in the latest Volkswizard video (R v CS) that the 'mode resets' every time you start up (he was in the R at the time). I may have misheard but is that right? Surely not......
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The engine mode won't be in sport when you start up.... same on the mk7.
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So if you set up an individual mode, does it remember that and start up in that mode every time?
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So if you set up an individual mode, does it remember that and start up in that mode every time?
Yes
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Usually individual.
DCC set to the middle, engine noise set to Eco (to kill fake noise) and the rest set to comfort.
Unless I fancy some corner chopping action and just drop it into sport mode and hang off the VAQ like Rossi going round a corner :cool:
Ha Ha Fred made me laughs that hang of the VAQ 😂. Fred when your are in those individual
settings and flick the gear paddle into sport does it just give you essentially all the same settings if you were to select sport as driver mode. Just a quicker way to access ?
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I also watched a video the other night which I don't know how true it is but on the standard GTI without DCC and just the chassis showing to change to comfort or sport that there is no difference whatever what you select and according to VW it was just there in the software.
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So if you set up an individual mode, does it remember that and start up in that mode every time?
Yes
ta :smiley:
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So if you set up an individual mode, does it remember that and start up in that mode every time?
Yes
Yes but if you have the engine set to "sport" it doesn't actually take effect.
Same with "sport" it remembers its in Sport mode, but to get the engine in sport mode you have to select another mode, then select sport again.
All of the other settings from Individual or Sport mode remain engaged tho - DCC, lights, AC etc etc.
Its probably something about emissions testing.... the test is "turn the car on, measure", so they don't want it screaming.
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Usually individual.
DCC set to the middle, engine noise set to Eco (to kill fake noise) and the rest set to comfort.
Unless I fancy some corner chopping action and just drop it into sport mode and hang off the VAQ like Rossi going round a corner :cool:
Ha Ha Fred made me laughs that hang of the VAQ 😂. Fred when your are in those individual
settings and flick the gear paddle into sport does it just give you essentially all the same settings if you were to select sport as driver mode. Just a quicker way to access ?
I've been pondering that very question. Its weird because the settings on the Mk7 were slightly different - you had gearbox, engine and VAQ settings. "Engine" was basically a throttle mapping.
On the Mk8 you don't have this quite the same.
When you select "engine sport" the gearbox also goes into S mode.
Also (and this is a follow on about the question earlier about what happens if you restart the car in sport mode) it says in the manual:
Behaviour of the Drive vehicle system when the ignition is switched off and on
The settings of the Drive vehicle system are reset to the settings of the Comfort driving profile as soon as you switch the ignition off and on again.
You can switch the Drive vehicle system to the settings of the desired driving profile again:
Select the desired driving profile again.
OR: to activate the settings in the Sport driving profile again, move the selector lever of the automatic gearbox back to the S position.
I think when you flick the chicken nugget to S it sets the engine (aka throttle) and gearbox to S.
What I don't really understand is that on a non-DCC car you have "chasis" settings - normal or sport. These are NOT suspension settings, they are VAQ ones. On a DCC car, you don't have that - you have the 17 settings of DCC. I wonder just how the VAQ is set across these....
The mechanic training manuals would be really interesting to read.... on the Mk7 I learnt loads about it from those - things explained which the user guide doesn't properly explain and I don't even mean how to fix it, I just mean how it works from an operational viewpoint!
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Usually individual.
DCC set to the middle, engine noise set to Eco (to kill fake noise) and the rest set to comfort.
Unless I fancy some corner chopping action and just drop it into sport mode and hang off the VAQ like Rossi going round a corner :cool:
Ha Ha Fred made me laughs that hang of the VAQ 😂. Fred when your are in those individual
settings and flick the gear paddle into sport does it just give you essentially all the same settings if you were to select sport as driver mode. Just a quicker way to access ?
I've been pondering that very question. Its weird because the settings on the Mk7 were slightly different - you had gearbox, engine and VAQ settings. "Engine" was basically a throttle mapping.
On the Mk8 you don't have this quite the same.
When you select "engine sport" the gearbox also goes into S mode.
Also (and this is a follow on about the question earlier about what happens if you restart the car in sport mode) it says in the manual:
Behaviour of the Drive vehicle system when the ignition is switched off and on
The settings of the Drive vehicle system are reset to the settings of the Comfort driving profile as soon as you switch the ignition off and on again.
You can switch the Drive vehicle system to the settings of the desired driving profile again:
Select the desired driving profile again.
OR: to activate the settings in the Sport driving profile again, move the selector lever of the automatic gearbox back to the S position.
I think when you flick the chicken nugget to S it sets the engine (aka throttle) and gearbox to S.
What I don't really understand is that on a non-DCC car you have "chasis" settings - normal or sport. These are NOT suspension settings, they are VAQ ones. On a DCC car, you don't have that - you have the 17 settings of DCC. I wonder just how the VAQ is set across these....
The mechanic training manuals would be really interesting to read.... on the Mk7 I learnt loads about it from those - things explained which the user guide doesn't properly explain and I don't even mean how to fix it, I just mean how it works from an operational viewpoint!
That's why I said in a earlier post Fred, some video is saying the chassis settings on the GTI without the DCC is just part of the software on screen, apparently whichever setting it is in it makes no difference what so ever but how true this is I don't know and this was coming from someone at VW
This nugget thing has got me confused that doesn't take much 😂. So even if you set the driving mode to Sport which shows S then click the nug it changes to sport normal, but what exactly is sport normal, just keeps the steering and reduces torque or throttle. I'm confused. Ha
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If you are in comfort and D... Flicking the chicken nugget to S is the equivalent of the engine mode from Sport.
It will have the same getup and go and gear changes.
That's not quite the same as selecting sport profile but in the most obvious ways it is.
As for non dcc chassis mode selection not doing anything, i remember we talked about it on here but can't remember the details. Didn't think it was pointless?
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I would have thought the chassis would change but not according to this VW guy, but I wouldn't believe everything they say 😂, And I got you about the flick of the switch, I just wondered what the change was if you changed to sport profile that changes the nugget to sport anyway but then flick it again and it's normal just D sport. Wondered if the D calmed things down even though still in sport mode.
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I think i tried that before, don't think it does anything.
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I think i tried that before, don't think it does anything.
I might just go individual to comfort like you Fred then just hit the switch when need too, I'm find it too addictive on these sunny days putting my foot flat to the floor 😂. I need to stop
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I tend to just switch between Comfort and Sport, using the Mode button. If I am using Sport at around 30-40, I will use flappy-paddles to take it beyond 3rd gear. Above that speed, I let the box do it's thing. If I am in comfort and need a quick injection of GTI juice, I will flick the bean.
It has to be said that, due to doing a lot of my driving during the early morning or late at night, I love the ambient light setting that changes the colour depending on which mode I am in, so that has probably influenced the way I use it. I think that, if it wasn't for that, I would use Individual with red lights set.
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I’ve also been enjoying a bit of bean flicking. It’s by far the easiest way to make the car purr.
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I tend to just switch between Comfort and Sport, using the Mode button. If I am using Sport at around 30-40, I will use flappy-paddles to take it beyond 3rd gear. Above that speed, I let the box do it's thing. If I am in comfort and need a quick injection of GTI juice, I will flick the bean.
It has to be said that, due to doing a lot of my driving during the early morning or late at night, I love the ambient light setting that changes the colour depending on which mode I am in, so that has probably influenced the way I use it. I think that, if it wasn't for that, I would use Individual with red lights set.
I think the car looks amazing at night with the lighting I must admit, I actually had the green colour the other night and it looked great. I've just left my individual as everything in sport apart from the engine noise that I have set to Eco to take away the fake engine sound and hear the real engine a bit more clearly. Engine was warm early tonight with it being a warm day and seemed to be getting more pops from the exhaust. Also noticed again on a warm day my inform system never feels laggy.
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I’ve also been enjoying a bit of bean flicking. It’s by far the easiest way to make the car purr.
My friend does a lot of motorway and has his in Eco and enjoys flicking the bean from that into sport 😂
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So something else I have discovered today. Any pops from revving the exhaust only works when engine sound is in sport. I thought this was for just pure soundkator noise through the speakers and it was defo not my ears. I set up to sport drive in individual but Eco engine and no pops revving up to 4000rpm but then changed the engine sound back to sport and popping from exhaust. Tried this also with Eco drive and left on Eco engine and nothing then changed to sport engine noise left with Eco and Rev and popping out the exhaust. I was out the car with my foot revving too to hear it clearly. And also as I said the other day that on a warm day by inform system starts up with no freeze or lag
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So something else I have discovered today. Any pops from revving the exhaust only works when engine sound is in sport. I thought this was for just pure soundkator noise through the speakers and it was defo not my ears. I set up to sport drive in individual but Eco engine and no pops revving up to 4000rpm but then changed the engine sound back to sport and popping from exhaust. Tried this also with Eco drive and left on Eco engine and nothing then changed to sport engine noise left with Eco and Rev and popping out the exhaust. I was out the car with my foot revving too to hear it clearly. And also as I said the other day that on a warm day by inform system starts up with no freeze or lag
Some other people on YouTube noticed this as well, when in sport the 'soft limiter' appears to also let you rev slightly higher, which might be responsible?
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That's interesting....so the "turn down the fake noise to hear for the real noise" actually is incorrect advice lol.
That's a nice bit of detective work.
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So something else I have discovered today. Any pops from revving the exhaust only works when engine sound is in sport. I thought this was for just pure soundkator noise through the speakers and it was defo not my ears. I set up to sport drive in individual but Eco engine and no pops revving up to 4000rpm but then changed the engine sound back to sport and popping from exhaust. Tried this also with Eco drive and left on Eco engine and nothing then changed to sport engine noise left with Eco and Rev and popping out the exhaust. I was out the car with my foot revving too to hear it clearly. And also as I said the other day that on a warm day by inform system starts up with no freeze or lag
Some other people on YouTube noticed this as well, when in sport the 'soft limiter' appears to also let you rev slightly higher, which might be responsible?
I'm glad I wasn't just hearing things 😂. You learn something new everyday
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That's interesting....so the "turn down the fake noise to hear for the real noise" actually is incorrect advice lol.
That's a nice bit of detective work.
That's why I did it Fred, turn down the fake noise in the cabin to hear the pops better and even know it still sounds good without that much of fakery I can only get the pops to work when in sports engine sound, I was thinking is this just my car or everyone's. I've tested again and same result. I'm mind blown 😂
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I wonder what causes it then? It has to be something deliberate.
On the original mk7 gtd they used to have an option called "sport and sound". This was a little misunderstood option for a long time but it actually had a sound generator unit in the exhaust. It wasn't subtle by all accounts. On max setting it could out chav a whole mcdonald's carpark or wake up every neighbour for miles. On a diesel...
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Oh and also, yes cold temperature definitely does make the infotainment system laggy. The mk7 was like that too, certainly with the first generation of its mib units.
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I wonder what causes it then? It has to be something deliberate.
On the original mk7 gtd they used to have an option called "sport and sound". This was a little misunderstood option for a long time but it actually had a sound generator unit in the exhaust. It wasn't subtle by all accounts. On max setting it could out chav a whole mcdonald's carpark or wake up every neighbour for miles. On a diesel...
😂😂😂 Creased at that. Honestly totally has me baffled but I've done it with Eco Drive and Sport Sound and it even pops at 3.5 - 4.0 rpm in Eco so what I thought was just a sound generator through a speaker seems to me it controls your popping on your exhaust. Honestly blew my mind it has. I'm just wondering if everyone's is the same or mine is controlling something faulty 😂
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I'm blaming you for the moaning from Mrs G just now.... Have been out and tested it on the drive.
She's not happy, but you are spot on. It definitely does exactly what you said.
I wonder why?
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I'm blaming you for the moaning from Mrs G just now.... Have been out and tested it on the drive.
She's not happy, but you are spot on. It definitely does exactly what you said.
I wonder why?
Phew glad I wasn't going mad Fred, I'm finding it strange as it seems on other forums even though not much about the MK 8's and more 7 and 7.5 mentions that all that does is defo speaker sport noise and it pops in just sport mode even the sound on Normal, maybe it's something that has changed on the MK, hope you didn't wake the neighbours 🤣 because mine would have been sick of me with testing, thing is I like that pop which means I need to leave it on to sport, I mean just switching to Eco sound you can hear the normal engine noise better but no pops :(, It's defo a strange one but glad I've noticed it.
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Having spent the last seven years in mk7's i can tell you for sure that there are a surprisingly large amount of differences in the finer points of the mk8.
And so far only a handful of people have them so there's not much crowd knowledge yet.
Definitely your finding here is as significant as Brocky and his lane assist magic button :laugh:
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Well that's 3 things new altogether then. This exhaust popping. Left hand blinker button for lane assist and shortcut on drop down on inform system for quicker add for ESC. Wonder what I can spot today 😂. I've been dreaming about GTI's all night it's killing me how that controls the exhaust noise
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I think the only way to discover what they've done with that noise setting is to look at the mechanic training guide. It will be in there i am certain.
I've no idea where those are to be found though, I presume when I've found them before someone had been naughty and uploaded them to the Internet.
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Interesting discovery with the ‘real’ exhaust sound.
I wonder if there is a way of disconnecting the fake amplifier that still allows the real exhaust to do the same thing in Sport Exhaust setting.
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Interesting discovery with the ‘real’ exhaust sound.
I wonder if there is a way of disconnecting the fake amplifier that still allows the real exhaust to do the same thing in Sport Exhaust setting.
I'm sure there is a way mate. I've just been on a bit of drive all warmed up on quiet country road and tried again and 100% needs to be on Sport engine for to pop, so I think if the soundkator is disabled I'm sure it would sound much better with the real engine noise 😎. I would thought if anything was going to control that it would be sport drive but nope it's engine noise and should be renamed engine and exhaust pop 😂
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I wondered if it had a soundaktor but it definitely does because i can see the controller in obdeleven.
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I wondered if it had a soundaktor but it definitely does because i can see the controller in obdeleven.
Can it be disabled using that Fred ?
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Hmmm maybe. I've not seen anyone talking about doing it for a mk8 yet but possibly.
I'm not sure whether all of the settings are protected by sfd or just some. If it is behind sfd then definitely not.
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It's definitely the same controller id as the mk7, it's a j869.
(https://i.postimg.cc/02fCf0qg/Smart-Select-20210417-183326-OBDeleven.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYsPRPTD)
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It's definitely the same controller id as the mk7, it's a j869.
(https://i.postimg.cc/02fCf0qg/Smart-Select-20210417-183326-OBDeleven.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYsPRPTD)
Hmm interesting, I think I would love to turn mine off
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It's definitely the same controller id as the mk7, it's a j869.
(https://i.postimg.cc/02fCf0qg/Smart-Select-20210417-183326-OBDeleven.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYsPRPTD)
Fred spoke to someone at VW today. Told me that sport mode changes the ECU mapping that allows the exhaust to pop.
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Engine mode sport I'd agree but as we know, this is just "sound" sport...