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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: 08micsta on 27 May 2007, 12:50
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Hey everyone.
A short while ago I posted about the electric windows on our GTI going down while the car was locked and not being used. We have not paid much attention to the problem since it seemed minor until today.
This is how low the windows were when my mother got to the car today:
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We dont want the car anywhere near a stealer and have tested the rollback feature and everything seems ok. But we are worried because it is nearing our winter season and also beacuse of possible theft.
Please help. I have reset the cars setting through he highline computer and it went away for a short while. I dont have VAG-Com cables either.
Help would be appreciated today even. :undecided:
thanks in advance
Mike
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Just another thing I thought i would mention. We clean our cars with a High pressure Jet cleaner. It seems the car does this a day or few after it has been washed. Could this be a reason?
Will post pics of the shiny car tomorrow :evil:
Mike
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Is the car not still under warranty - id have it in like a shot!
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You're gonna have to bite the bullet abd get it in ASAP
And shame on you for using a jet wash :angry:
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Why shame on me? I still clean it by hand with Hot Wax. Just use for spraying under the arches and to get rid of the soap. The jet cleaner works wonders.
I will be calling VW about this today. Really worried (we live in SA where car theft is common) :sick:
I just figured because the engine bay gets a bit wet too it may be causing problems with the electronics.
So it will have to go in to the stealers? Cos you do realise they will fix this and break something else?
Oh well.
Thanks all
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Nowt wrong with a hand jet wash????????? it shouldnt cause the probs your having, just dont put it threw a car wash!! :cry:
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Hell NO!!! None of our cars have nor will ever go near a carwash.
Still confused. Why not use a jetwash? Its a Bosch High pressure cleaner.
Obviously i know you never consentrate the blast cos it will take the paint off. But we use it standing far away from the car. Besides that it makes cleaning the honeycomb grill much easier.
Please explain...
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I would never jet or car wash my golf - even standing a fair distance you can still knacker the paint work - take my dads Passat - it's about 4 years old and the alloys are badly yellowed due to using a power wash (and that is a fair distance away). If it does that to your alloys then what's it doing to the paint :sick:
Thanks but I'll stick with a hose and a bucket o' hot wax :smug:
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Sorry guys. But maybe he was using borehole water to clean his car? That makes alloys go yellow :nerd:
Sorry but Im gonna stick to cleaning it with the jet washer.
Mike
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Using a jet washer at any distance isn't good for the Monza's. Even if you only have the slightest of blemishes on the alloys the pressure washer forces its way under the blemish and can lift the laquer from underneath :shocked:
As for the paintwork - well if you are using a jet washer and cleaning dirt off your car then you are asking for it. The dirt on cars is abrasive in itself and using a power washer that relies upon the pressure to wash the car simply forces the abrasive dirt against the paint before pushing it along the surface and eventually washing away.
The only comparison I can draw is sandblasting where air is used in conjunction with abrasive particles to take off the top layers of floors/walls/paint - you name it. The only difference is that you are using pressurised water and the particles are already on the car.
HAND WASH ONLY if you value your cars gleaming paintwork and alloys :wink:
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HAND WASH ONLY if you value your cars gleaming paintwork and alloys :wink:
Are you not supposed to hose the car first to knock off any sand / grit before sponging? Otherwise you drag the sand / grit around with your sponge!
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HAND WASH ONLY if you value your cars gleaming paintwork and alloys :wink:
Are you not supposed to hose the car first to knock off any sand / grit before sponging? Otherwise you drag the sand / grit around with your sponge!
I forgot that bit :embarassed:
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Are you not supposed to hose the car first to knock off any sand / grit before sponging? Otherwise you drag the sand / grit around with your sponge!
Goes without saying
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Surely a good polish eery now and then will keep the car lookin good even if you use a jet washer?
We have these wipes which you use after the car is dry. smells like vanilla and shines both the plastics and bodywork. :huh:
In the last seven years of using a pressure cleaner on the pajero and BMW we have never had to have either cars polished nor does the paint look dull or anything.
Oh well.......
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Back to the original problem . . . :rolleyes:
I'm sure I mentioned before that this is a very common VAG problem - with the "convenience module" ECU. You are gonna have to take it back to the stealers, and demand they fit a new ECU - though, because you refuse to take it to them previously, they may need to see the car on a couple of occasions before VW SA allow them to order a new ECU.
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:undecided:
Is it not just a code error? Cant they fix it without taking the car apart? The Technician said the door panels etc would have to come off. :sick:
Thanks for the help everyone. greatly appreciated.
Mike
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Is it not just a code error?
It might well throw an error code - but that code may well state sommat like "fcuked Convenience Module ECU - please replace"!
Cant they fix it without taking the car apart? The Technician said the door panels etc would have to come off. :sick:
You may be lucky, and all they need to do is plug in their VAS5051, interrogate the module, tweak a few settings - and Bob's your Aunts Brother. However, if it is an ECU, then it is usually hidden under one of the seats. I doubt very much that it is the actual window "hardware", ie, the motors, 'cause they go up and down properly under normal use!
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Ok...
After about an hour of constant begging and persuasion my mom has booked it in. i told one or two white lies :rolleyes: But at least she has agreed to take it in. Will let you guys know what happens.
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Is it not just a code error? Cant they fix it without taking the car apart? The Technician said the door panels etc would have to come off. :sick:
They shouldn't need to touch the door cards. If one of the window regulators was acting up then perhaps as each motor has an electronic module which controls the soft stop and anti-trap. This is a 'global opening' issue as it affects all windows at the same time. There is a central module, and this fault can be casued by water ingress. (on some cars the windows open automatically in the event of the car turuning over in an accident)
TT's right about demanding a new module, as they're guaranteed to report no fault found when they investigate.
As a quick thought, you know pressing the open door button on the key fob for a few seconds will cause all the windows to open while the button's pressed? (and they'll close with the lock button) Is it possible that someone's done this accidently?
Also, were the doors unlocked and did the alarm go off?
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At first i figured it was the key fob causing the problem and showed my mom how it works. But she is extra careful and it still does it. The car only does it when it is locked. And it tends to do it within a few days of being washed.
Although the windows were all open the alarm didnt go off (not that I know of)
Its all kinda confusing....
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Any updates on this?
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Replied in the other thread.
Read there TT :smiley: